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[posthumous knighthood?:]
BRi, "SiR"!   BRiANiSTA~HATS iN AiR:  BRi /"SiR B*"«

NOW, w/ BRiANiSMS "iN AiR/+":    BW  WON !«

By Douglas Fink/PapaLaPap (in the "Sad, Sad Summer" 2025):
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    "SL00P"s  SECRET  "€~METER"  =  CESSP00LS !«
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"BRIAN DOUGLAS WILSON" + anagram epitaph:
"SAIL~BOARDing SUN: LOW"
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(BW~epitaph freely after JULIA's SMiLE Jigsaw Puzzle:)
   JULIA...   HAIL U, "J" !«

BRiAN WILSON = "DUMB ANGEL"/"Pied Piper"/"SANDALPHON"FunFun !?

   "WILSON/SCHMILSON"?     NO !  "WILSON/SMiLEson"!  

BRiAN WILSON WAS  "T*H*E  P*O*E*T  L*A*U*R*E*A*T*E  O*F  S*U*M*M*E*R"  !
Can anyone think of a finer Brian epitaph?
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The Beach Boys/"Beach Men"(?) = 9 MEN:  Brian (rip), Dennis (rip), Carl (rip), Mike, Al, David, Bruce, Ricky & Blondie !   By  Dmitri A. Borgmann/PapaLaPap (2025:)
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   DO  NiNE  MEN  iNTERPRET  "NiNE  MEN" !?             i  NOD ! «    

Douglas Fink/PapaLaPap version (2025:)
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"NiNE MEN" iNSiDE ME MEMED: "iS NiNE~MEN  iN?"«
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SHAKESPEARimental BriANADROMiC hymn dediicated to the late Brian WILSON & his distant(!) cousin: WILL S*. By Anthony Etherin/PapaLaPap (in "Sad Sad Summer" of 2025)
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DRAB SMS iN: "AiRBURST~€£/M* = A HYMNIST !?"

CALL A ROMEO~PLAY !

OR A ROYAL POEM  

OR ALL ACTS iN MY HAMLET's  "R  U  BRiANiSMS~BARD?"««««

Seems odd to place the 1970 rehearsals here-feel like that was already released and possessed by those of us who got previous sets-like That’s the Way It is. Clearly RCA wants a big box from a period when Elvis wasn’t really feeling like making records and avoided the studio.

Cool. Anyway...

I actually revise my rating of WIBN for the record. After coming to the SMiLE chapter it became really obvious that Brian wasnt writing/dictating or consulting in any meaningful way. There were embellishments in the story I couldn't find elsewhere in some cases (the bookstore incident, giving VDP mice, Diane snusnu in 66, raping the third Rovell sister) and others that come from Gaines but almost certainly aren't accurate (first Fire mid-Nov 66 with VDP before the actual 11/28 that was logged, etc). The author clearly wasnt familiar with the SMiLE sessionography or music. The supposed third trip is never talked about in depth just "finally saw God" (well...tell us about God then, what was that like??).

Id give it a generous 2 not a 3.

The funny thing is nobody's prodding Lonely Summer for also being, lets say, skeptical of Melinda. Why am I always singled out for having a heterodox opinion and pressured to write an essay defending it on-command? (And then when I do, I get criticized for being "long winded" lol.)

It's a message board. You can ignore or respond to anything you want. If you make a claim, expect interaction from others regarding that claim. I and others have had plenty of back-and-forth over the years with Lonely Summer.

Maybe i just wasnt interested in having a discussion about it, lol. Like at least to me, not every disagreement needs a winner or a consensus. Sometimes the whole "big epic debate" thing isnt worth the hassle, especially when the other person is very emotionally invested and determined to "win" at all costs, which is the vibe I perceive from you. You can feign outrage about me "assuming your motives" but Id say anyone that writes like ten ornery paragraphs in responce to "lets just agree to disagree" is kinda not worth engaging with. Just seems like I could say anything right now and youd take it in the worst possible way.

Like i dont actually enjoy the big self important pearl clutching debate thing so i tried to kindly say "hey id rather we just agree to disagree." Is that allowed? Does that make me a bad person too? Would you still be speaking to me the same way you are now if we were in person or PMs? If so, yikes, if not my assessment was totally warranted.

I think Melinda was heavy handed and misguided. You dont. I gave my reasons, you dont agree. The end.

I feel like if someone makes a negative accusation about someone, it's fair game to discuss those accusations. If you don't want to discuss, fine. If you actually wanted to end the conversation, why follow up and ask Craig and I a passive-aggressive followup question regarding that very conversation? You say I'm not worth engaging with and claim a big epic debate isn't worth the hassle, yet here you've written how many paragraphs in four posts in the past day that have nothing to do with the original topic?

I predicted itd happen now and yall took the bait to prove my point.

So your posts were "bait" and not a genuine attempt to have a discussion?

Ugh. If thats the only thing you took from everything Ive said in this and my other 134 posts, yeah sure. Whatever makes me seem worse. Attack the nonbeliever.

If youll recall, I wasnt even the one who brought up Melinda and just because I was expecting backlash doesn't mean it was necessarily my intent to cause it. But again I dont think either of you are really operating on good faith right now or interested in a meeting of the minds so much as playing to the crowds so Im sure any idiom or unflattering phrase I use here is going to be presented in the worst light possible.

Spot on. That didn’t take long.

👍👍😂😂

Maybe i just wasnt interested in having a discussion about it, lol. Like at least to me, not every disagreement needs a winner or a consensus. Sometimes the whole "big epic debate" thing isnt worth the hassle, especially when the other person is very emotionally invested and determined to "win" at all costs, which is the vibe I perceive from you. You can feign outrage about me "assuming your motives" but Id say anyone that writes like ten ornery paragraphs in responce to "lets just agree to disagree" is kinda not worth engaging with. Just seems like I could say anything right now and youd take it in the worst possible way.

Like i dont actually enjoy the self important pearl clutching outrage thing so i tried to kindly say "hey id rather we just let it go." Is that allowed? Does that make me a bad person too? Would you still be speaking to me the same way you are now if we were in person or PMs? If so, yikes, if not my assessment was totally warranted.

I think Melinda was heavy handed and misguided. You dont. I gave my reasons, you dont agree. The end. The funny thing is nobody's prodding Lonely Summer for also being, lets say, skeptical of Melinda. Why am I always singled out for having a heterodox opinion and pressured to write an essay defending it on-command? (And then when I do, I get criticized for being "long winded" lol.)

But again I dont think either of you are really operating on good faith right now or interested in a meeting of the minds so much as playing to the crowds so Im sure any idiom or unflattering phrase I use here is going to be presented in the worst light possible.

I would greatly appreciate it if you would stop assuming my motives here. You claim that I am not here to have a meeting of the minds, yet you are the one who tried to stop this conversation after just my second post in this thread! Who is trying to avoid a conversation here? You claim I am not operating on good faith? I am literally just disagreeing with a negative critique you initially made about Melinda. You are the one who is making up this story in your head that I'm operating on bad faith and then using it as an excuse to avoid a real discussion. I feel like I have been very clear in my reasoning for why I think Melinda wasn't clumsy or misguided in her management, maybe try just rebutting my arguments in a civil manner rather than making up stories and motivations of the people you are conversing with?

Speaking of making stuff up, to give you an idea of the level of idiotic rumors that are leveled at Melinda, one of the rumors floating around behind-the-scenes about her was that she was the poster SMiLE Brian here on the SS forum...A poster who I have met personally and who is still posting here after January 30, 2024. So this is what Craig and I mean, that when an 'insider', or someone close to Brian's camp, has made a claim, don't take it for gospel because chances are it's bunk from people with an ax to grind.

You know who would’ve done a kick ass cover of it? Tom Waits. I can hear it in my head and everything…

This was probably hashed out a zillion years ago, but is there any evidence/indication that:

A) The songs were offered to Sinatra
B) The offer actually made it to him
C) He then turned them down

Yes it was discussed here. Click on the YouTube link I posted before to hear Brian personally talk about the song and Sinatra in 1977. Unfortunately it was before the meeting itself so no follow ups and info on what transpired. But a meeting was definitely planned as Brian specifically mentions it.  And the rest of the thread is pretty interesting too.

Eureeka! I found it! Click on the link, it goes to where Brian talks about writing Still I Dream Of It for Sinatra "about 2 or 3 weeks ago for Frank, personally..."

https://youtu.be/YZAwYF2tLbU?t=468

Thanks to the uploader on YouTube for sharing. Someone grab it before it disappears too, please  

1977 interview, not '76.

I always wondered why there was no collaboration with Dean Martin in any way. The connections were so close even before Carl became his son-in-law. "Still I dream of it" may not have been a perfect fit for him but I could totally see him doing some of the other songs.