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 91 
 on: November 14, 2018, 02:38:23 PM 
Started by HeyJude - Last post by HeyJude
Keeping in mind that one should never assume much when it comes to this stuff, and also that I haven't been super-closely watching the verbiage used on Brian's Facebook and other forums when it comes to promoting upcoming shows, this just recently posted about Brian's upcoming Toronto show has some tone of finality to it:

Toronto: See Brian at The Sony Centre next week on Nov 21 for his final Toronto performance. Brian, Al, Blondie & the Band will be playing Pet Sounds and greatest hits live for you, one last time.

 92 
 on: November 14, 2018, 02:34:06 PM 
Started by HeyJude - Last post by BigSound
One assumes that the demand and interest in Pet Sounds that was generated by the Love & Mercy biopic, as discussed in this 2016 Billboard article, continues into 2019.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/7263743/brian-wilson-pet-sounds-tour

 93 
 on: November 14, 2018, 02:28:56 PM 
Started by HeyJude - Last post by B.E.
If band members concede that Brian's tired of Pet Sounds, then why the new June 2019 show? It's not like he can't get gigs without it.


Well, two of the three 2019 gigs announced so far (the Nashville gigs as I recall) are make-up dates for postponed shows from May of 2018.

Aside from that, I do think promoters and venues sometimes might pay more money and/or have more interest in a "Pet Sounds" show.

I don't know how they went about booking 2018 shows, but it appears as though they had three flavors being offered to promoters/bookers ("Greatest Hits" aka a "Regular" show, the PS shows, and then Xmas Album shows).

Yes, the two make-up dates are totally understandable, but getting paid more money for a show and/or booking more shows that Brian's disinterested in doesn't seem worth it to me. Based on recent reviews and band member conversations, perhaps they should change course?

 94 
 on: November 14, 2018, 02:26:57 PM 
Started by HeyJude - Last post by BigSound
Thank you for the reports. I too feel that Brian truly does want to be on the road, and his diminished mobility has to be affecting him and not just physically. I like the idea of Al having a mini-set too. Unlike some, I think Brian continuing to tour is a good thing as it will keep him active. I don't think making him more sedentary is the answer, as I don't think that will be good for his spirits. Just my feeling, and I could be wrong

I don't think it's wrong for Brian to keep doing shows. As long as he wants to do it and people are willing to pay, no worries. I just feel bad that he's struggling with the back stuff, and it's clearly bumming him out and changing the whole scene around him. My mother dealt with chronic pain, and it's horrendous. Part of me wonders if Brian shouldn't find some theater close to home and just do regular shows there, like Chuck Berry used to do in St. Louis. Or possibly just set up residencies at various places so he wouldn't have to travel as much.

Realistically, though, I would be surprised if there's much more sustained touring after this fall. And it's not just me saying that.

I remember Howie Edelson laying out several years back how a Las Vegas residency for the BB reunion lineup would have been ideal for keeping the thing together and running smoothly. That'll obviously never happen anytime soon. Such a set up would potentially be good for Brian. But I don't know if there would be the same demand (from venues/promotes or ticket buyers) for a year-round or multi-month residency from Brian in Vegas.

But it's something they might be well-served to look into. Vegas would keep the show to 80-90 minutes, and a regular residency would allow them to slowly rotate around the setlist more and more. They could even rotate in special guests more. Al and Blondie would be obvious. But maybe work David Marks back in for select shows. Bring in both Jardine kids and/or the Wilson sisters. Kind of a revolving ongoing version of that Venetian show for PBS a few years back.

A way to get around the promotor question would be for Brian to have his own permanent venue a la Phil Lesh's Terrapin Station, which itself was based on Levon Helms's Midnight Rambles.  This is all pie in the sky to be sure, but a permanent venue that could become a tourist attraction, not far from Brian's home, and host similar acts when Brian, Al, et al. are not in residence.

 95 
 on: November 14, 2018, 02:18:43 PM 
Started by HeyJude - Last post by HeyJude
If band members concede that Brian's tired of Pet Sounds, then why the new June 2019 show? It's not like he can't get gigs without it.


Well, two of the three 2019 gigs announced so far (the Nashville gigs as I recall) are make-up dates for postponed shows from May of 2018.

Aside from that, I do think promoters and venues sometimes might pay more money and/or have more interest in a "Pet Sounds" show.

I don't know how they went about booking 2018 shows, but it appears as though they had three flavors being offered to promoters/bookers ("Greatest Hits" aka a "Regular" show, the PS shows, and then Xmas Album shows).

 96 
 on: November 14, 2018, 02:15:10 PM 
Started by HeyJude - Last post by B.E.
If band members concede that Brian's tired of Pet Sounds, then why the new June 2019 show? It's not like he can't get gigs without it.

 97 
 on: November 14, 2018, 02:04:35 PM 
Started by Smile4ever - Last post by Jay
I'm actually really surprised that the complete and unedited master take wasn't included. A section of music lasting about twenty or so seconds was edited out of the final mix.

Which song? What are you referring to?
It would help if I actually named the song I was talking about, huh?  LOL I was referring to "Sexy Sadie".

 98 
 on: November 14, 2018, 01:54:26 PM 
Started by HeyJude - Last post by HeyJude
Thank you for the reports. I too feel that Brian truly does want to be on the road, and his diminished mobility has to be affecting him and not just physically. I like the idea of Al having a mini-set too. Unlike some, I think Brian continuing to tour is a good thing as it will keep him active. I don't think making him more sedentary is the answer, as I don't think that will be good for his spirits. Just my feeling, and I could be wrong

I don't think it's wrong for Brian to keep doing shows. As long as he wants to do it and people are willing to pay, no worries. I just feel bad that he's struggling with the back stuff, and it's clearly bumming him out and changing the whole scene around him. My mother dealt with chronic pain, and it's horrendous. Part of me wonders if Brian shouldn't find some theater close to home and just do regular shows there, like Chuck Berry used to do in St. Louis. Or possibly just set up residencies at various places so he wouldn't have to travel as much.

Realistically, though, I would be surprised if there's much more sustained touring after this fall. And it's not just me saying that.

I remember Howie Edelson laying out several years back how a Las Vegas residency for the BB reunion lineup would have been ideal for keeping the thing together and running smoothly. That'll obviously never happen anytime soon. Such a set up would potentially be good for Brian. But I don't know if there would be the same demand (from venues/promotes or ticket buyers) for a year-round or multi-month residency from Brian in Vegas.

But it's something they might be well-served to look into. Vegas would keep the show to 80-90 minutes, and a regular residency would allow them to slowly rotate around the setlist more and more. They could even rotate in special guests more. Al and Blondie would be obvious. But maybe work David Marks back in for select shows. Bring in both Jardine kids and/or the Wilson sisters. Kind of a revolving ongoing version of that Venetian show for PBS a few years back.

 99 
 on: November 14, 2018, 01:50:47 PM 
Started by HeyJude - Last post by HeyJude
The band has definitely put in time learning the material.

Have Brian and Al? Hmm.

We know Brian can handle "Little Saint Nick" just fine. Al has done both LSN and "Christmas Day" at a few solo gigs and also with Brian.

Luckily, the songs probably aren't going to sound as disorganized as stuff like "That's Why God Made the Radio" or "Sail Away" where there are three or more lead vocalists and all sorts of overlapping psuedo-lead (non-harmony) vocal parts.

It's relatively safe to assume Brian will sing LSN, and Al will take "Christmas Day." I think Brian or Al can handle the other Mike leads: "The Man With all the Toys", "Santa's Beard", and "Merry Christmas Baby." (On "Toys", it'll be interesting to see if they do the original BB album arrangement or the BW 2004 extended arrangement with harmonies replacing the solo falsetto part).

Dunno if they'd have to hand "Blue Christmas", "I'll Be Home for Christmas", and "White Christmas" to Rob or one of the other guys. Most of the other songs have doubled or unison or harmony-lead parts that the band can pull off.

Like something like "Our Prayer", I think it'll be Darian knocking into shape stuff like "We Three Kings..."

 100 
 on: November 14, 2018, 01:49:26 PM 
Started by HeyJude - Last post by Wirestone
Thank you for the reports. I too feel that Brian truly does want to be on the road, and his diminished mobility has to be affecting him and not just physically. I like the idea of Al having a mini-set too. Unlike some, I think Brian continuing to tour is a good thing as it will keep him active. I don't think making him more sedentary is the answer, as I don't think that will be good for his spirits. Just my feeling, and I could be wrong

I don't think it's wrong for Brian to keep doing shows. As long as he wants to do it and people are willing to pay, no worries. I just feel bad that he's struggling with the back stuff, and it's clearly bumming him out and changing the whole scene around him. My mother dealt with chronic pain, and it's horrendous. Part of me wonders if Brian shouldn't find some theater close to home and just do regular shows there, like Chuck Berry used to do in St. Louis. Or possibly just set up residencies at various places so he wouldn't have to travel as much.

Realistically, though, I would be surprised if there's much more sustained touring after this fall. And it's not just me saying that.

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