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662270 Posts in 26545 Topics by 3797 Members - Latest Member: Ruby Go Home September 29, 2020, 01:47:12 PM
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 on: September 27, 2020, 02:12:39 PM 
Started by Tricycle Rider - Last post by thetojo

I, for one, would never underestimate the lengths that those who are petty and jealous would do in order to preserve their egos.

Turns out Mike's used car salesman history revisionism (or if you are to believe it, perhaps simply the innocent ignorant historical revisionism by his record label) wasn't just wrong by four years, it was wrong by a *decade*. Never forget:

Good thing those stickers didn't last long, because there were more important stickers that soon took precedence:

Well it was the first solo album by a Beach Boy, the most envious, petty and litigious one.

It just wasn't the first solo album by any Beach Boy.

 on: September 27, 2020, 02:06:47 PM 
Started by Tricycle Rider - Last post by thetojo
I'm reading all of this as the Dennis Solo material is fairly safe, but not so much the Dennis Wilson Beach Boys material if that makes sense.

 on: September 27, 2020, 01:01:20 PM 
Started by All Summer Long - Last post by Hang10Ben
It could be Joe or Ernie or even someone we don't even know about that was a one-shot fill-in.

 on: September 27, 2020, 12:57:14 PM 
Started by Tricycle Rider - Last post by Don Malcolm
Howie and Jon, it's always great to see you guys here--thanks for speaking up and bringing some new wrinkles to all of our Buddha brows...

And Joel G., I think I can speak for most of us in hoping that you will take careful note of the factual and interpretive updates provided here and will find a way to incoporate that into your next article.

I still think a complete track list of FEEL FLOWS as it was signed off on should be put into the hands of the rock press, but it appears that we will have to take a "two-step side-step" approach to that. Given that it appears we must proceed that way in terms laying this out for the media, one or two more tidbits about unreleased work from other band members might supply the needed grease to get a "full-court press" up to speed next month to keep the pathway open for a December FEEL FLOWS release. We still need to escalate the attention being paid to this, so the word to those of you active on social media is definitely "don't back down." Let's use every tidbit to any possible advantage...

 on: September 27, 2020, 12:52:35 PM 
Started by Join The Human Race - Last post by Pablo.
One caveat...there are a few inaccuracies for the sake of sensationalism in the Kent story

No doubt about it. But one of the things I like is how he paints Carl's public persona.

Thanx to CenturyDeprived for the scans

 on: September 27, 2020, 12:51:24 PM 
Started by Join The Human Race - Last post by Join The Human Race
Thanks for those finds, CD! Those readings with everything else I have read really portrays Carolyn as a very sympathetic woman. I wonder if Brian ever broke it off over the phone sometime within a year of Landy; just seems like a Landy thing to do, coach him breaking up with a woman on the phone. I doubt the tapes would be the Cocaine Sessions, those were recorded at Garby Leon Studio. I assume the tapes stayed there but maybe Brian took them home? I don't know how those got out; I'm sure some one out there would know about these purported tapes. Interesting that Carl put Brian in for 72 hours the day John Belushi died; that was March 5, 1982. That's when Carolyn challenged and got Brian out under a patients' legal rights claim. A few weeks later, she is arrested. I wonder if Carl go in touch with Landy in March; that would almost fit with the timeline of Landy being around 6 months prior to Brian being fired. Interesting, Carl's 1st show back is March 31st. Lot going on in Carl's life during that month. He takes a hiatus after early April; looks like there's a Young Blood session that month. Carl rejoins for good May 2nd. I do wonder how much Carl was involved with getting Landy back; beyond just, "Hey, we need your help again." This 1982-83 period is just a very interesting crossroads.

 on: September 27, 2020, 12:45:42 PM 
Started by Tricycle Rider - Last post by All Summer Long
Thanks for that list, All Summer Long. Some combination of any of these would be incredible! I'll be gutted if this doesn't come out.

For the record, I wouldn’t have been able to compile without jackjachman’s thread:,25249.0.html

I should have posted that a while ago.

 on: September 27, 2020, 12:43:55 PM 
Started by Tricycle Rider - Last post by All Summer Long
Thank you Howie (and Jon) for the updates and additional info. Hope we get to hear it all.

 on: September 27, 2020, 12:26:24 PM 
Started by Joel Goldenberg - Last post by SaltyMarshmallow
A lot of the 90s material came from 50/50 collaboration, but some of the most lauded tunes - Gettin' in Over My Head, It's Not Easy Bein' Me, Soul Searchin' - were almost all Andy. Brian only added the bridges to the first two (Andy deliberately left gaps) and then contributed lyrics to Soul Searchin' after the music had already been written and recorded. With both that and Brian's personal condition, I can understand Carl being wary. Maybe not to the extent that I understand Stars & Stripes being a preferable option, but, y'know.

 on: September 27, 2020, 12:00:55 PM 
Started by Joel Goldenberg - Last post by Join The Human Race
Seeing that interview does provide the context for why Carl wanted to quit the Paley/Was stuff. I believe Paley has said his collaborations with Brian were usually 50/50, though I have read elsewhere that a lot of that stuff was mostly Paley.

Back to the 1976 Brian interview, I wonder how much of his energy is coke and how much is from drinking a ton of coffee and just being nervous. I would not be surprised if Brian was using again by the end of 1976, but Brian did consume a lot of coffee during this time; he was needing any fix he could get.

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