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 91 
 on: April 28, 2017, 07:57:43 AM 
Started by Juice Brohnston - Last post by Juice Brohnston
I understand Kokomo isn't everyone's 'cup of tea' (I like it, not their best, but fond memories of the time in which it was released)

I must say though that I have always found it's live performance underwhelming. Maybe it's the pace of the song, or maybe it would fit better earlier in the set list. Not sure. Also, is it just me, or does it seem like a bit of an awkward ending, when they finish on 'Jamaica'?

 92 
 on: April 28, 2017, 07:33:35 AM 
Started by ThyRavenAscend - Last post by The LEGENDARY OSD
By the time of the XMas/MIU sessions in 1977, Brian's voice was "in shape" somewhat more just from more regular use in concert and in the studio. A little bit of vocal EQ and whatnot, added to picking songs in an appropriate mid-range key, and I think that goes some way to explaining Brian's voice on those sessions. And maybe not doing as many hard drugs while in Iowa?

Really, the "smooth" Brian voice is really mainly in evidence only on two songs: "Wontcha Come Out Tonight" and "Matchpoint of Our Love." I think they just coaxed some solid vocals out of Brian on those tracks. He croaks out a decent but not exactly ear-catching falsetto on "She's Got Rhythm"

Actually, Brian's falsetto on SGR is somewhat ear splitting. But I do hear him doing some nice work on "Winds Of Change", "Pitter Patter", and "Bells of Paris". It was very reminiscent of the original mix.



 93 
 on: April 28, 2017, 07:25:29 AM 
Started by Ziggy Stardust - Last post by The LEGENDARY OSD
There was actually a kind of funny and awkward episode on this board several years back when someone posted a video of Cowsill singing "Heroes and Villains", and somebody else noted it was pretty painful, and then Cowsill came on and posted and was actually pretty self-deprecating and honest about being open to the criticism.
Ha! Few posters said they couldn't stand his vocals. Cowsill agreed saying he sang like Kermit the Frog! Then me or smb. else added he's right, terrible voice. He was completely OK with it! Now *that's* "professional musician". He gained respect after that. 3D

Now if we could only get him to admit that while John Stamos is undoubtedly a cool guy to hang out with, he's an amateur musician and a blight on the band's legacy and the quality of live shows, then I'd have even more respect!

But I agree with what someone mentioned back when Foskett jumped ship to Mike's band; Brian should have simultaneously been trying to lure Totten and Cowsill into *his* band!

Well there you go! StamoHs is an amateur musician and a blight on the band's legacy. No wonder myKe luHv wants him on stage to help him tarnish the legacy. Two peas in a pod  Roll Eyes

 94 
 on: April 28, 2017, 07:25:06 AM 
Started by ThyRavenAscend - Last post by HeyJude
By the time of the XMas/MIU sessions in 1977, Brian's voice was "in shape" somewhat more just from more regular use in concert and in the studio. A little bit of vocal EQ and whatnot, added to picking songs in an appropriate mid-range key, and I think that goes some way to explaining Brian's voice on those sessions. And maybe not doing as many hard drugs while in Iowa?

Really, the "smooth" Brian voice is really mainly in evidence only on two songs: "Wontcha Come Out Tonight" and "Matchpoint of Our Love." I think they just coaxed some solid vocals out of Brian on those tracks. He croaks out a decent but not exactly ear-catching falsetto on "She's Got Rhythm"

 95 
 on: April 28, 2017, 07:19:26 AM 
Started by runnersdialzero - Last post by HeyJude
What caught my eye in that photo, is Bruce is playing a 'Squire' knockoff of a 'Fender' bass.  They are a cheap instrument, not to say that they are all bad, but
it just feels like they found a bass hanging around and said 'throw this on'.

That's probably what happened, since they were just miming for that show.

While the "Al didn't know this show was happening until he saw it on TV" story may have been overblown over the years, I will probably never be able to shake the possible image of Al sitting down in the front of the TV with some chips and dip and buffalo wings for his annual Jardine Family Super Bowl Party only to do a spit take seeing this on TV.

The more likely scenario is he just heard about it later; and I'm pretty sure by early 1998, even before Carl's death, Al sensed his days were numbered playing with Mike.

Either way, if I were Al I wouldn't be bummed about missing that cheesy Super Bowl gig. Worse than the "Dick Clark 35th Anniversary" mimed gig from '81, and that was the one where Brian was zonked and Dennis looked to be nearly passed out.

 96 
 on: April 28, 2017, 07:14:20 AM 
Started by ThyRavenAscend - Last post by The LEGENDARY OSD
I agree with you it was put on voice to deal with the Myke touring machine of the time. Wink

The Spring LP was released in 72. Was Brian's voice starting to change as far back as that?. The ITBOMM demo was recorded in 75. Was there a three year period of voice change?
Yes it was.  Brian' vocals on So Tough bear it out (although buried a bit in the mix). Somewhere in my collection I have  Brian's vocals isolated on the songs he's there vocally but I need to hunt it down (burned to cd before my old computer died; it's packed up in a box somewhere).

From memory...he's the high part on Mess of help (sounding more like his MIU era falsetto). He's doing the "Marcella Hey" tag on Marcella, in addition to the higher part on the "hey yeah Marcella" part.  And on He Come Down, the "eee-ee" part on the left channel is indeed Brian, sounding EXACTLY like he did in 1976 (right channel is Mike).
https://youtu.be/4ExZZH1v0TM?t=3m37s

I asked someone who would definitely know and without hesitation got confirmation.



Thanks for the clarification, Billy. Is there additional info concerning Brian's voice change during these few years? For example, why was his voice improved for MIU?

 97 
 on: April 28, 2017, 07:14:09 AM 
Started by Ziggy Stardust - Last post by HeyJude
There was actually a kind of funny and awkward episode on this board several years back when someone posted a video of Cowsill singing "Heroes and Villains", and somebody else noted it was pretty painful, and then Cowsill came on and posted and was actually pretty self-deprecating and honest about being open to the criticism.
Ha! Few posters said they couldn't stand his vocals. Cowsill agreed saying he sang like Kermit the Frog! Then me or smb. else added he's right, terrible voice. He was completely OK with it! Now *that's* "professional musician". He gained respect after that. 3D

Now if we could only get him to admit that while John Stamos is undoubtedly a cool guy to hang out with, he's an amateur musician and a blight on the band's legacy and the quality of live shows, then I'd have even more respect!

But I agree with what someone mentioned back when Foskett jumped ship to Mike's band; Brian should have simultaneously been trying to lure Totten and Cowsill into *his* band!

 98 
 on: April 28, 2017, 07:10:49 AM 
Started by sweetdudejim - Last post by HeyJude
There are a few possibilities. One is that while most of the songs with Landy's name on the writing credits were revised, not all of them were, at least initially.

For instance, don't the credits on the KTSA/BB '85 two-fer CD reissue state that only "Crack at Your Love" has had Landy's name removed?

However, a BMI song search shows Landy's name gone from "I'm So Lonely" and "Male Ego" as well.

BMI also shows "Country Feelin'" with only Brian's name.

The "Every Child Deserves a Lifetime" CD appears to be a compilation of that organization's previous CDs, inclidng the "For Our Children" CD that originally included the Brian track. So I'm guessing rather than checking for updated BMI information, they just copied the liner notes info from the old CD release onto the newer CD release. It's not super often that songwriter names are stricken from songs by legal agreement (I'd guess slightly more common would be names being added due to lawsuits/agreements), but I don't know if researching any changes in publishing/songwriting information is something CD projects like that do, or should do.

 99 
 on: April 28, 2017, 06:56:42 AM 
Started by ThyRavenAscend - Last post by HeyJude
Regarding "Guess I'm Dumb", I'd find it more of a bummer that we don't have a Brian lead on it if Glen Campbell's lead was sub-par or something. I'm not a huge Campbell fan or anything from his later work, and one wouldn't think based on his 70s hits that he'd be able to do a Brian-esque mid-60s vocal. But, while he's not like a full-on doppelganger for Brian on "Guess I'm Dumb", he turns in an excellent lead in the same general vein as a Brian vocals from that era.

A good song is a good song, so I'm fine with Campbell's vocal on that song. It's as much of a Beach Boys song as, say, the "McGear" album is a defacto Paul McCartney & Wings album.

As for Brian's voice change, I find it fascinating that his vocals on the 1974/75 impromptu "demos" for "California Feelin'" and "In the Back of My Mind" sound *exactly* like what one would guess: It's literally 50/50 right in between his circa 1970 "still fully intact" voice and his 1976 "15 Big Ones" voice.

 100 
 on: April 28, 2017, 06:47:42 AM 
Started by pixletwin - Last post by Watamushi
Oh, Bird don't go  Cry

Anyway, let's say NOs to Tomorrow Never Knows.

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