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477224 Posts in 16116 Topics by 2923 Members - Latest Member: Mike G October 20, 2014, 04:48:56 AM
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 on: Today at 02:42:41 AM 
Started by stack-o-tracks - Last post by Nicko1234

It was more than clear. If the statement was made that returning to the smaller venues was somehow what the fans had come to expect from a BB's show, and you said the current touring is less appealing, then you must be suggesting the Beach Boys fans were expecting less appealing shows.

Err, no. What we were discussing was `appeal` in relation to ticket sales and putting bums on seats.

Now the C50 tour had massive appeal as it combined the `The Beach Boys` name, the reunion element and the anniversary element.

It appealed to the casual fans who want to see the hits, the hardcore fans of course, Brian`s fans who wouldn`t go near a Mike and Bruce show, serious music fans and just people who wanted to see an `event` and were interested due to the promotion and the hype. Massively broad appeal which the Mike and Bruce shows obviously don`t match.

What i did forget to mention was the notion of having a fun night out at a concert. Well, that's pretty much a no-brainer, isn't it? I don't know how that notion is something unique to the Beach Boys. Unless I wanted to leave the venue an emotional wreck, shattered and in tears, I wouldn't pay money to see such a show that isn't a good time. I don't know who, except maybe those people who paid to see Rod McKuen back in the day, would go to a show not expecting to have some fun or escapism and release of some kind at a live show.

Nope. There is a massive difference between, for example, the entertainment a concertgoer gets from watching Brian performing Pet Sounds or Smile live and somebody watching Mike and Bruce playing a meat and potatoes show. They appeal to very different demographics (not that there isn`t some crossover of course as many of us on the board prove).

Check the ticket prices for the shows happening in the next week or so on the east coast, around NJ and PA and including the Borgata in Atlantic City. Keep in mind what the price range was for C50 (inflation hasn't gone that crazy in 2 years), and what the price ranges are for the upcoming weeks of shows. In some cases the starting prices for lower-range seats was less for C50 than it is now in 2014. In fact they're nearly the same, give or take.

So the idea of playing smaller venues with lower ticket prices isn't quite the case, since the current prices can be greater in some cases than they were for C50. So let's bust that myth.  Smiley

As I said, the ticket prices for the county fair shows can be very cheap. That`s the reason they are able to get such big crowds in comparison with their other touring. The theatre shows will undoubtedly be more expensive (and will attract a different audience) and it seems like $50 seems to be the average cheapest price which maybe similar to some of the C50 shows. There is no question though that generally speaking Mike and Bruce`s shows are much cheaper than C50.

The bottom line for me is none of the shows that I have seen Mike and Bruce perform at would have been arranged by promoters if they didn`t have `The Beach Boys` name. That`s a certainty. It was obviously the holy grail back in 1998 and for good reason due to both what it reveals and what it conceals. It reveals that people are going to hear the hits and it conceals that many of the original members are not going to be present. Having a band called `Mike Love and Bruce Johnston of The Beach Boys` would actually draw attention to what many people consider to be the very weakest aspect of their group...

 on: Today at 02:32:17 AM 
Started by guitarfool2002 - Last post by Aomdiddlywalla
Hopefully, there will be a way to hear it.  I'll let you know if there is...
Mikesmixlr ?

 on: Today at 02:30:53 AM 
Started by ajsmith - Last post by Pretty Funky    

The wistful collection of faces that appear in the billowing clouds and the throughout the green landscape offer a tranquil, calming sense of well being to the proceedings, and whilst the actual artwork may leave it difficult at times to work out exactly who is represented in each area of the frame the overall impression is one of extreme warmth. The instantly recognizable, cherubic face of Brian appears through the clouds in the top left corner of the sleeve, whilst the image of Alan appears on the opposite side, but just who the remaining faces represent is open to discussion. Certainly, the small image to the left of Alan (wearing sunglasses maybe ?) is remarkably non-representative of any of the Beach Boys and one wonders if the artist, a certain David McMacken, whoever he may be, ‘snuck’ that one in on the sly …

 on: Today at 02:13:56 AM 
Started by ajsmith - Last post by ajsmith
The red figures  the centre are obviously a portrait of the group, but I was wondering if anyone could definitely suggest whose faces are pictured in the bushes and clouds? Are they band members, or associates, or others?

 on: Today at 01:46:43 AM 
Started by stack-o-tracks - Last post by Dove Nested Towers
The C50 events were astonishing... as - sadly - was the torrent of complete nonsense, twaddle & bilge that followed in the wake thereof from all points of the compass and all camps.

...........including this board. I'm burnt out on it. Time to move forward, boys and girls!!  

Obviously many people aren't. Why don't you stop trying to dictate what topics others should discuss, just don't participate in the relevant threads if the subject doesn't interest you. It's annoying.

 on: Today at 01:35:59 AM 
Started by stack-o-tracks - Last post by Pretty Funky
Another story highlighting Mike's attitude to touring and how he has no plans to stop.

I still don't think money is Mike's main driver. Its the love of the show and the buzz around it. If the end goal is amount $X per year he would sooner get it doing 140 shows per year rather than 40. The other Beach Boys either don't get it or can't cut it.

 on: Today at 12:42:31 AM 
Started by guitarfool2002 - Last post by Eric Aniversario
I called "What a fool believes"!

 on: Today at 12:19:19 AM 
Started by guitarfool2002 - Last post by RangeRoverA1
Hopefully, there will be a way to hear it.  I'll let you know if there is...
Hopefully, it can also be downloaded*. Give us link if you find it.

*as a huge BBs fan, I collect all-things digital by the band & solo, including Brian.

 on: October 19, 2014, 11:59:04 PM 
Started by Smilin Ed H - Last post by Smilin Ed H
There was a fantastic exhibition of photos by legendary 'street photographer' Garry Winogrand in New York recently and it's now heading for Pars. Here are a couple of heavily iillustrated pieces on the man and the exhibition:

 on: October 19, 2014, 11:38:36 PM 
Started by guitarfool2002 - Last post by guitarfool2002
Thank you for posting the playlist! I was unfortunately away and unable to listen today but hopefully this will be made streaming or podcasted or something similar so people can listen.

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