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 on: Today at 03:47:25 AM 
Started by onkster - Last post by JK
Not technically a song but man is it sad! The Israelite judge Jephtha made a rash vow to God after defeating the Ammonites and had to sacrifice his daughter. This is the heart-breaking "Plorate filii Israel" (weep, you children of Israel), the final lament from Giacomo Carissimi's oratorio on the subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PLnla_I9gQ

http://www.jamescsliu.com/classical/Carissimi_Jephte.html

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 on: Today at 02:52:43 AM 
Started by >PapaLaPap< - Last post by >PapaLaPap<
Classic Pet Sounds~strip by Nick Terra:

https://www.deviantart.com/tennishero/art/The-60-s-Part-1-205958420

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 on: Today at 01:45:23 AM 
Started by aeijtzsche - Last post by JK
I'm not sure that nearly two hours of baroque overtures on electric mandolins is anyone's cup of tea, but I do appreciate someone listening a little bit.

They should persevere. Many of the best finds are further down the list (Poro/Il pastor/Orlando/Ariodante).

To say nothing of this hard rock take on the Messiah "Sinfony"--incredible! That dissonance first heard in bar two sounds really nasty! Grin 

https://soundcloud.com/joshilyn-hoisington/muhzziauh

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 on: Yesterday at 10:19:20 PM 
Started by rickymyfataar - Last post by rickymyfataar
I don't really see the confusion with the lyrics. The 60s had its ups and downs, looking back on it with love is certainly better than looking back with hate. Let's take the Vietnam war or the assassinations, what the hell is the point of looking back with hate and hostility, Let us remember our veterans with love and honor them. Let's look at the good that JFK and MLK stood for while the were still alive. In my point of view, I think that's what the writers had in mind when they wrote the song.

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 on: Yesterday at 07:47:47 PM 
Started by aeijtzsche - Last post by guitarfool2002
I have to think one of the takeaways of the story Billy Strange told was how it showed the mutual respect that existed between Brian as producer and the musicians whom he most often contracted to play on his sessions. Here's Billy Strange, who - for those who don't know - was a successful songwriter and arranger in his own right besides his career as a first-call guitarist, remembering Brian's gesture that day years later, with such detail...compared to some of Brian's producer peers in that same era and time who some musicians would refuse to work for because of how they were treated. I've heard from quite a few of those musicians who worked Brian's sessions say that they'd cancel other dates to work with Brian. He always treated the musicians well, and he respected them, and it was reciprocal.

Brian pays Billy 500 on the spot and gifts him a new Fender guitar and amp...for coming down to play a track on his day off with his son. That's the stuff people remember.

And Billy, in return, told Brian he didn't have to pay him anything for his studio time that day. The guy takes time off with his kid to come to Western 3, and says Brian doesn't owe him anything before being paid 500 bucks and a new Fender rig. Who does that, right? That's respect.

Compare that to the stories of other producers, one comes to mind specifically who Howard Roberts refused to work with ever again after said producer made him run take after take on an acoustic 12-string track that ended up with Howard needing medical treatment on his hand which sidelined him for months. Or producers who would cut the session with 10 seconds left to save money versus Brian who would deliberately run a minute into overtime even though he had the final take...so the musicians could get more money.

In that way, the story does shed light on the working relationships Brian had with these musicians, and how he'd be overly generous to those who were doing such great work with the tracks he would bring in. And that's not myth...it's backed up by those musicians who were the core group of those who Brian regularly used on these dates.

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 on: Yesterday at 07:21:46 PM 
Started by rickymyfataar - Last post by guitarfool2002
If Noven is as talented as some are saying, why is he doing this kind of schmaltz for Mike Love? This is ham-fisted "nostalgia" that plays on a smoothed-out version of American history that wouldn't be out of place in a 7th grade history textbook. Reduce major events to a paragraph, if that, complete with a stock photograph.

But that's just the thing, I think...Mike Love has been writing lyrics that tap into this same cracked rear-view of history as nostalgia for decades, in fact I'd say the majority of his original output from the 1980's onward tries to recapture things that were relevant in 1963. I wish he'd expand more and look beyond the nostalgic bent of his lyrical focus, but for some reason that's all he seems able to consistently write about, or it's what he may think "fans" are expecting to hear.

It was like the "50 Years Of Good Vibrations" promotional schwag sold in 2016. It amped up the focus on psychedelia and imagery which was at that time directly influenced by and connected to psychedelic drugs, and the actual history was that Mike himself has been 100% against that scene and that image, yet used the same imagery from the same scene and activity he's railed against for decades to promote a tour. It's like history can be reduced to quick-cuts of imagery and iconography as long as we don't dig too deep into the actual people and events, and instead emblazon it on T-shirts, posters, and in this case a promo video to move product or promote something. I don't get it, but that's the state of affairs.

This video just plays into that good-old-days nostalgia bag even further than the song itself, which is forgettable if not totally anachronistic in the worst way. It sounds like an outtake from 1988. And it does sound like "Somebody's Baby", which in itself for everyone who has seen the film will recognize as a pretty devastating emotional trigger for the deeper messages which that film expressed when that song is matched with the scenes under which it plays...and that's when editing film to music is done on a truly artistic level that sticks with viewers for decades after the initial viewing.

So yes, it's another Mike Love promo. I wish Noven would branch out, and I wish Mike would write some new material that doesn't try to remind everyone of fun in the 1960's sun. That's been done.


Too bad Noven is completely locked down to Mike Love's side of things. He obviously has some great editing talent, but being hitched to Mike Love's wagon is kinda limiting given the solo output material.


Exactly my thoughts too, well, most of it.

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 on: Yesterday at 05:35:20 PM 
Started by rickymyfataar - Last post by CenturyDeprived
Noven just shared a video for LBWL, I'm not sure what the intent is but it's really well made. Link below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shEtVIETr_Q

I never understood the lyrics of this song. Why is he looking back with love on segregation, assassinations etc?

The line "Good Vibrations, Assassinations" with the Zapruder film playing at the same time is just odd to me. I get that there is contrast like rickymyfataar says, but it doesn't really work too well in video form (it doesn't really work well in song form either). This peppy "Lookin back with love" line is playing with imagines of MLK smiling in the background in a song that talks about his assassination. I mean, the song/video shows Charles freakin Manson and the message of the song is to look back on all of this with love. I'm honestly confused too.

Too bad Noven is completely locked down to Mike Love's side of things. He obviously has some great editing talent, but being hitched to Mike Love's wagon is kinda limiting given the solo output material.

Also, Noven, if you read the comments on this site, you may want to edit the hashtag #MikeLove to something more descriptive? The hashtag link just takes you to a bunch of videos of the reggae artist Mike Love.

The JFK footage is in very awkward taste. It's also very odd because the song has such as upbeat, happy sound throughout. All of the chords and Mike's vocal are of a "happy" type nature, in complete contrast with the JFK/MLK lyrics, which are now brought to life visually through stock historical footage that has been synced to the song for some reason 38 years later.

I still can't help but to think of the chorus Jackson Browne's Sombody's Baby, and Fast Times at Rigdemont High, when I hear Looking Back with Love. I cannot believe that those two songs weren't influenced by one another in the songwriting process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk2NHZukTYg

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 on: Yesterday at 03:35:19 PM 
Started by rickymyfataar - Last post by rab2591
Noven just shared a video for LBWL, I'm not sure what the intent is but it's really well made. Link below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shEtVIETr_Q

I never understood the lyrics of this song. Why is he looking back with love on segregation, assassinations etc?

The line "Good Vibrations, Assassinations" with the Zapruder film playing at the same time is just odd to me. I get that there is contrast like rickymyfataar says, but it doesn't really work too well in video form (it doesn't really work well in song form either). This peppy "Lookin back with love" line is playing with imagines of MLK smiling in the background in a song that talks about his assassination. I mean, the song/video shows Charles freakin Manson and the message of the song is to look back on all of this with love. I'm honestly confused too.

Too bad Noven is completely locked down to Mike Love's side of things. He obviously has some great editing talent, but being hitched to Mike Love's wagon is kinda limiting given the solo output material.

Also, Noven, if you read the comments on this site, you may want to edit the hashtag #MikeLove to something more descriptive? The hashtag link just takes you to a bunch of videos of the reggae artist Mike Love.

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 on: Yesterday at 03:11:44 PM 
Started by aeijtzsche - Last post by rab2591
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For another episode, let's say, it could be "The synthesizers of Beach Boys '85", where I would seek out access to the keyboards used on that album and demonstrate them.

As someone who loves that album and the sound of the synthesizers used on it, I fully fully support this endeavor. And I would totally watch/listen to other videos you make.

Will you be releasing these on YouTube? Or perhaps a podcast medium?

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 on: Yesterday at 12:18:59 PM 
Started by aeijtzsche - Last post by JK
To get the ball rolling, I'll share a short clip that I put together this morning.  It had been a while since I'd played my clarinets, so I got one out this morning to see if I could still play.

I recorded some of the clarinet quartet sections from IJWMFTT.  The video series promises to dissect these moments much more fully and strip everything back to its individual pieces.  I will not be trying to recreate or cover -- it will be much more piecemeal and specific; but in a way it will be like creating my own version of the multi tracks I have wanted to hear for so long.

(I am not currently living with my bass clarinet, so there is some manipulation to the bottom voice but it doesn't sound so bad.)

https://soundcloud.com/joshilyn-hoisington/ijwmftt-clarinet-early-attempts

Sounds great to me, JH, top and bottom (isn't that what they call the chalumeau?).

I hope you and your bass clarinet are reunited soon!

(And I hope someone else chimes in now.)

Looking forward to more.

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