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479063 Posts in 16170 Topics by 2931 Members - Latest Member: peterhollens November 01, 2014, 01:43:44 AM
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 on: Today at 12:31:30 AM 
Started by CenturyDeprived - Last post by The Legendary AGD
I'm probably completely misremembering here, but isn't that mix something Chuck did for his own amusement (as per the Desper version of "'Til I Die") ? Sure I read that somewhere... but then, I was convinced Herbert Lom died about 20 years before he actually did, so...

 on: Today at 12:22:33 AM 
Started by Octopus Prime - Last post by The Legendary AGD
But then again, I don't know how he spent his last Christmas, so I couldn't really say.

From the People article "Death Of A Beach Boy":

"A few days before Christmas he checked into the detox unit at St. John's Hospital and Health Center in Santa Monica. Dr. Joe Takamine, who runs the 21-day detox program, said a blood test taken on admittance showed a.28 alcohol level and traces of cocaine. "He told me he was drinking about a fifth of vodka a day and doing a little coke," Dr. Takamine adds. "I put him on 100 mg. of Librium every two hours so he could come down slowly and maybe start the program in five days." On Christmas, however, he suddenly left. He spent that day drinking with a friend. At 3:30 a.m. Dec. 26, he reportedly checked into the Daniel Freeman Marina Hospital but walked out the next day and later met with Shawn. Then he took off again."

Jon can fill in the finer detail but I doubt family and/or photos played much of a part that day.

 on: October 31, 2014, 11:54:41 PM 
Started by Hot Rod - Last post by RangeRoverA1
I like the name of your band, imagine this. You have a gig in Texas*, the announcer calls you out "Barbie Cuties!" & people obviously expect to see girls, but then you all show up on stage & the audience is laughing. Some of the members goes to mic to say, "No, we are B-A-R-B-E-C-U-T-I-E-S" - y'know, we like meat. Btw, someone tell us where is your nearby barbershop? we're HUNGRY, YEAH!" (the crowd yells)

*afaik, it's a state famous for its farming, corn bread & stuff.

Now, the tune. I really dug it, anything that sounds remotely festive is right up my alley. The intro is very Christmasey. Cool vocal too. The song could easily turn up on the Ramones tribute album. 5 stars.

 on: October 31, 2014, 11:31:11 PM 
Started by Rob Dean - Last post by John Manning
Going back to the original post, if only Rob had an online store where he could display his wares … I'm particularly missing the two disc release of … and … and …  Evil

 on: October 31, 2014, 11:21:57 PM 
Started by John Manning - Last post by John Manning
Hah, I should have set out my purpose more clearly in the firs place… did I just do it again? LOL

 on: October 31, 2014, 11:21:06 PM 
Started by HeyJude - Last post by Lonely Summer
Just to chip in my two cents as a fan...

Carl's death devastated me, like many of you. Two things also floated through my head: 1) I had seen the Beach Boys in the summer of 1996 for the first time (and, except for C50, the ONLY time), and I recall being very pleasantly surprised after all I heard about the tackiness of the cheerleaders (turns out they had just stopped using them!), Mike's 20-year-old scripted dialog (as a first-timer, it actually sounded fresh to my ears), and overall..just the ENERGY that came from that stage...the musical energy, that is (not PERSONAL energy -- let's face it, it was just five guy standing in one place and singing and strumming and not doing anything else)...and when I heard of Carl's death, I thought: I'll never experience that energy again; and 2) please, please, PLEEEEEEEASE, if Mike continues touring, do NOT call it "The Beach Boys." No Wilsons = no Beach Boys, period. That's how I felt then, that's how I felt now, PERIOD. I don't care what the BRI lawyers say -- one original Beach Boy plus a non-original two-time Beach Boy and a bunch of "Who??" are NOT "The Beach Boys." To me, that's like Paul McCartney and Jimmy Nichol getting together with two unknown guitarists and calling themselves "The Beatles."

Now...someone had asked about the paucity of visual documentation of the 1997 tour. I'm sure I mentioned it before, but in the concert book that came out not too long ago, there is a picture of Carl onstage from 1997 (I think from Rosemont, IL) -- and if you didn't know it was Carl, you'd never know there was anything wrong...just looks like some guy, you know? But...some years ago I was at someone's apartment and a friend was showing audience video of one of the '97 shows, specifically "Sail On, Sailor" with special guest Blondie Chaplin. Carl was sitting down and playing guitar. Other than that, I didn't find anything unusual. his head might have been a little puffier than normal, but there was no question that it was the Carl we all know and love, and he had a huge smile on his face from ear to ear...heck, I might have been GIVEN that tape; I'll have to check...the only other things I've seen were from camcorder footage taken from FAR back, so far that you couldn't really make out who was who.

But what I'm questioning is not the quasi-sudden lack of pictures and video from the 1997's the lack of ANYTHING about Carl. It just occurs to me that we don't really know a heck of a lot about the guy, and if there's one Beach Boy we probably WOULD want to know about, it'd definitely be Carl. From all I gather, he was the one with the clear head and was able to keep his sh*t together amidst all the problems the band had. (And by his own admission, the amount of scandal and other problems that had gotten out about the Beach Boys didn't even scratch the surface.) What kept him level-headed? What was he all about? What made him tick?

Yeah, you can blame the smoking (and as a vehement anti-tobacco guy I certainly do, especially after hearing from someone who [says he] worked with the Beach Boys for a long time that Carl kept smoking almost until his dying day), but I firmly believe that simply being not just a Beach Boy but the Wilson brother who had to keep it all together, dealing with Dennis's addictions and violent outbursts, dealing with Brian's problems, (and think about how many times Carl's phone rang and he wondered if it was finally going to be the dreaded message that Brian or Dennis finally was no more), the times Mike would cause trouble with the band (often related to fasting and other Maharishi-related crap), other scuffles within the band, etc., were contributing factors to Carl's early demise as well.
The experts here will correct me if I'm wrong, but I was told that Carl stopped smoking sometime in the 80's. As far as learning much about the guy, the best thing out there is Billy Hinsche's DVD "Carl Wilson: Here and Now". Lots of stories about the man and the musician from family and friends. Sure wish someone would write a book about him, though. One of the reasons we never learned a lot about him is that even when he was giving interviews, so many of the questions were about Brian. I agree that being the Wilson brother who kept it all together took it's toll on Carl. And the Beach Boys have not been the Beach Boys - to me - since his passing.

 on: October 31, 2014, 11:08:01 PM 
Started by MaryUSA - Last post by RangeRoverA1
I don't hear anything resembling Monster Mash in this 14-sec. clip.

 on: October 31, 2014, 09:52:52 PM 
Started by Octopus Prime - Last post by Don Malcolm
Andrew's famous churlishness is both dramatic and magnetic. And never let it be said that RR isn't capable of giving as good as she gets!!

 Cool Guy

(ducking for cover...)

 on: October 31, 2014, 09:24:21 PM 
Started by PS - Last post by Pretty Funky
Mike with a wig. Can someone with the tech savy get a shot for the Mike Love picture thread? Got to be a few captions there.LOL

 on: October 31, 2014, 09:16:24 PM 
Started by Mayoman - Last post by Pretty Funky
Funny this is being discussed now. I read this story yesterday and, correct me if I am wrong, it may be the first where not another member of the band, pass or present, gets a mention by name.,1461422/

It of course may just be the editing but I thought it was poor either way. I'm happy to cut Mike some slack as he has always name-checked members in the pass.

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