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 on: Today at 05:25:47 PM 
Started by Jon Stebbins - Last post by HeyJude
I can step back and try to be objective and say, the amazing press C50 got was FAR better for their image/career, etc., than making sure they hit the Beau Rivage in Mississippi each and every year.

But I'll bet that BRI is more interested in those Beau Rivage shows - along with all the little kiddies and old fogies - than the amazing press the C50 Reunion got.

BRI is three guys and an estate. We don't know the detailed financials of C50, but it could have easily netted BRI members *collectively* MORE than a Mike tour.

Woulda/shoulda/coulda....BRI isn't interested in amazing press or publicity. Show me the money!

I can say with as much confidence as one possibly could without seeing their personal financial statements that at least 50% of BRI, in the form of Brian and Al, made TONS more money on C50 than they make off of Mike's tour.

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 on: Today at 05:22:50 PM 
Started by Jon Stebbins - Last post by Sheriff John Stone
I can step back and try to be objective and say, the amazing press C50 got was FAR better for their image/career, etc., than making sure they hit the Beau Rivage in Mississippi each and every year.

But I'll bet that BRI is more interested in those Beau Rivage shows - along with all the little kiddies and old fogies - than the amazing press the C50 Reunion got.

BRI is three guys and an estate. We don't know the detailed financials of C50, but it could have easily netted BRI members *collectively* MORE than a Mike tour.

Woulda/shoulda/coulda....BRI isn't interested in amazing press or publicity. Show me the money!

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 on: Today at 05:15:36 PM 
Started by runnersdialzero - Last post by punkinhead
Was recently reading a couple of interviews from ESQ 98, one with Richie Canata and one with John Stamos...they both mention the way Carl used to give a "stink eye" whenever any of the playing band members played a wrong note or flubbed up their playing...I also recall Billy Hinsche (on the Endless Harmony doc) talking about getting a look from Carl whenever the same occurred.

My question, is there any video evidence or concert footage of this happening? I'd be interested to hear about when that was in their career, I imagine in the 80s or 90s.

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 on: Today at 05:12:20 PM 
Started by Jon Stebbins - Last post by HeyJude
I can step back and try to be objective and say, the amazing press C50 got was FAR better for their image/career, etc., than making sure they hit the Beau Rivage in Mississippi each and every year.

But I'll bet that BRI is more interested in those Beau Rivage shows - along with all the little kiddies and old fogies - than the amazing press the C50 Reunion got.

BRI is three guys and an estate. We don't know the detailed financials of C50, but it could have easily netted BRI members *collectively* MORE than a Mike tour. Many of us have theorized and suspected there's probably only one person in the whole equation who *may* have made less money on C50 compared to a Mike tour. Further, at the very least 50% of the shareholders of BRI wanted to continue C50.

Also, as we've been discussing, C50 had the wider cross-section of demographics of fans than either a Mike or Brian show. More expensive tickets, larger markets, larger venues, *and* the best press they've had in decades is something that BRI should LOVE, no pun intended.

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 on: Today at 05:08:43 PM 
Started by Woodstock - Last post by Cyncie
All I can do is quote the Dali Lama:

"The more you are motivated by LOVE the more fearless and free your actions will be."

and...

"LOVE is the absence of judgement. "

I'm sure it applies somehow.

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 on: Today at 05:07:59 PM 
Started by Jon Stebbins - Last post by Sheriff John Stone
I can step back and try to be objective and say, the amazing press C50 got was FAR better for their image/career, etc., than making sure they hit the Beau Rivage in Mississippi each and every year.

But I'll bet that BRI is more interested in those Beau Rivage shows - along with all the little kiddies and old fogies - than the amazing press the C50 Reunion got.

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 on: Today at 05:04:37 PM 
Started by GhostyTMRS - Last post by Gohi
So what are we supposed to be talking about then? Cmon, Pinder... bust out some of your sassy freethinking and show everyone how it's done.

But I'll just end up like Frankenstein! The torches are all lit Wink
You're actually thinking of Frankenstein's Monster, my friend. Smiley

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 on: Today at 04:55:48 PM 
Started by Jon Stebbins - Last post by drbeachboy
Are you talking "young people" like children?
Yeah, always tons of children at Mike's Beach Boys shows.
I've never rated that as an attribute.

I can firmly attest to this fact: Unlike Jon's part of the country, the well-heeled NYC area folk are bypassing Mike Love concerts for the likes of off-Broadway, Lincoln Center and the Met, etc. I'm not saying that Brian's shows are bringing out Thurston Howell and his ilk, but the Mike shows I've caught over the recent years in the Tri-State NY area attract a lotta broken down sorts. County fair indoors. It is not a classy night out. It seems to me to be a decidedly lower income gang.

 
Yes that and their parents who are young adults. I've seen teenagers and 20 something's, as well. It may not be how it was in the 80s and 90s, but you are correct in that there are many more hipsters and high class dinks and the such at Brian's shows. We dregs who come from the middle class have to buy the cheaper seats and lay low in the shadows of Brian's shows. Boy, never thought of Mike & Bruce's Beach Boys as the Every Man's band. They cater to us low life's. Wink

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 on: Today at 04:50:43 PM 
Started by Woodstock - Last post by Lowbacca


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 on: Today at 04:44:33 PM 
Started by Jon Stebbins - Last post by HeyJude
And there's a noticeable difference between the audience in Mike and Brian's shows in the U.S.

Brian's shows have always seemed younger, hipper -- sometimes geekier -- perhaps more into the history of music, and on average 30 to 50 years old -- at times overly forgiving of Brian's shortcomings.
Mike shows have always shocked me at how old the core audience is; bad hips, white hair -- absolutely no care to who's singing the song -- "I gotta  beer and a chair and it's all good." There's also that element of group homes, bikers, which I've often caught at Mike's -- but not Brian's -- concerts.

I catch plenty of classic acts in concert, I've yet to EVER see one older than at Mike's show.

It's interesting that it's essentially the same show and an absolute night and day scenario in terms of the cut of who's showing up.
The 50th bridged that gap a bit -- it was an older crowd than unusually found at BW's shows, but there was still a youthful element that must've been shocking to Mike.
And . . . . . . . . . there were people with pens there writing about what they saw and heard.

I think that might be stretching things a little.  Smiley

Obviously the M&B shows do attract plenty of old people but plenty of their shows, depending on the venues, also attract all ages from young children upwards. This is even truer when the mighty John Stamos is involved.
I am with you on this. There are plenty of young people at the shows. Even Mike has mentioned many times on Facebook that there were many young people at this year's shows. He even talked about the kids even sang along on many songs and was amazed that they knew all the words. Maybe California audiences are a different mix than other parts of the country.

I dunno. I'm only partially being facetious when I say that when a crowd is, on average, really old, then the scattered young people stick out even more. Yes, I've seen young folks at old fogey shows like Ringo, McCartney (less so with McCartney; probably only because his tickets are so expensive), the Beach Boys, etc. But the average age at a Brian Wilson show is surely noticeably lower than that at a Beach Boys concert. There may be more 10-year-old kids at a Beach Boys concert than at a Brian Wilson show (which may also have to do with ticket prices), but there are more folks in their 20's and 30's at a Brian show. There are a bunch of interesting possible reasons for this, and it's a fun and interesting topic to discuss, but it's a difficult discussion to have when people are insistent on defending Mike's show against the charge that the audience is, on average, on the more geriatric side.

There are all sorts of interesting breakdowns on the potential stats on audiences. For instance, I would guess the age at, say, a UK "Beach Boys" show skews at least a bit younger than at a US show, since the band may have gained a disproportionately large number of fans in the later 60's and into the early 70's in the UK compared to the US.

I have little doubt there's a bit of a political, social subtext boiling under the surface of some of these discussions. I've seen it happen before during discussions of C50 playing larger markets versus Mike playing smaller, more out of the way markets. Setting aside how we individually feel about the group, when we're looking at how the rest of the world views them, there are some fans who think the reaction of an audience in Biloxi is just as integral to the band's career as a good review in Rolling Stone or the the large market newspapers, etc. I can step back and try to be objective and say, the amazing press C50 got was FAR better for their image/career, etc., than making sure they hit the Beau Rivage in Mississippi each and every year.

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