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Are there other books, or recordings similar to the ones above, that you could recommend?

Any info would be appreciated!

Thank You!!

This thread:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,11250.0.html

DonnyL:

Yes.

How about this:

CARIBOU (1972-75) - outtakes from So Tough to pre-15 Big Ones, presented as a proper album that could have been.

ENDLESS SUMMER LIVE (1972-75) - cover art like Endless Summer but with real photos of the group from the era. Track list mirrors Endless Summer as closely as possible for the first disc!

BRIAN IS BACK (1976-77) - 15 Big Ones + Love You + MIU  outtakes + New Album, Adult Child, etc.

1978-2012 - everything else. Not too much marketable here is what I think is the problem.

Not a bad idea either.

Can anyone describe the differences between the Eastern Airlines ad version of This Whole World and the stock version?

I second the suggestion to seek out the Secret Smile material, as well as one called "Heroes And Villains Sessions" (unless all of that made it to the box set, which I just don't remember if it did).

And grab a copy of Look Listen Vibrate Smile if you can just to supplement the research, it's a great document and scrapbook of what was going on around Smile at the time.

Thanks guitarfool. Found Secret Smile, and will check on H&V Sessions.

I have a copy of Look Listen Vibrate Smile and agree - it is a great scrapbook.

Why haven’t The Beach Boys gotten a proper 2 cd very best of?

I have my issues with sounds of summer but that’s another convo.

Aerosmith, allman bros, Chicago, doobie bros, the doors, Eagles, Fleetwood Mac all of gotten this treatment. Seems to me The Beach Boys deserve it. And 50 big ones doesn’t count.

Why wouldn't "50 Big Ones" count? Whether one likes the tracklisting or not, it's a career-spanning 2-CD "Best of."

And certainly, I'd say just combining "Greatest Hits Vol. 1 and 2" gets you a 2-CD comp, as does combining "Sounds of Summer" and "Warmth of the Sun." And "Endless Summer" and "Spirit of America."

The one thing I've figured most fans would agree on is that we don't need *more* compilations.

With the amount of Beach Boys compilations out there it would be easy to believe that whoever's in charge of new product might just not remember or be able to easily reference what all they've issued already.

Why haven’t The Beach Boys gotten a proper 2 cd very best of?

I have my issues with sounds of summer but that’s another convo.

Aerosmith, allman bros, Chicago, doobie bros, the doors, Eagles, Fleetwood Mac all of gotten this treatment. Seems to me The Beach Boys deserve it. And 50 big ones doesn’t count.

Why wouldn't "50 Big Ones" count? Whether one likes the tracklisting or not, it's a career-spanning 2-CD "Best of."

And certainly, I'd say just combining "Greatest Hits Vol. 1 and 2" gets you a 2-CD comp, as does combining "Sounds of Summer" and "Warmth of the Sun." And "Endless Summer" and "Spirit of America."

The one thing I've figured most fans would agree on is that we don't need *more* compilations.

While it doesn't help to explain why it currently is out of print and not even available to stream, to understand the context of this album it helps to read interviews with the guys (mainly Mike) from that era.

It appears that the original idea for the album was for it to be entirely BB songs that had been featured in movies. It was intended to be essentially a re-package/compilation with a "movie" theme.

While from the fan perspective it was usually felt that the reissued/hits/oldies were what watered down the album, an interview with Mike discussing the album indicates that he felt the "non-movie" songs were what watered the album down, and that it was all inter-band politics that led to other members getting tracks (and "non-movie" tracks at that) like Brian's "In My Car" and Al's "Island Girl." Mike of course contradicted his own reasoning here by contributing his own "non-movie" song, "Somewhere Near Japan."

The band, particularly Mike, also seemed annoyed that Capitol didn't push "Somewhere Near Japan" harder as a single, feeling it got lost in label politics in terms of what they chose to push to radio and promote. While "SNJ" was undoubtedly a highlight of the album, I don't think it would have scored the band a big hit under any circumstance.

Ultimately, despite the album going gold (due surely to it being the first BB album to feature "Kokomo"), the Capitol album deal was a one-and-done, and within a few years they were having to bankroll "Summer In Paradise" themselves.

I'm all for a free and open forum for debate and discussion, and giving everyone a chance to say their thing, but I'm going to lock this thread tomorrow. So say what you need to say, try to keep it civil and above board, and that will be it for this one after tomorrow.  

Probably just as well.  And for the record Century - again it's not my intention to pick on you too much nor do I even have any real problem with you.  Sometimes I just like getting into the spirit of the debate.  Definitely not personal.

It's cool, and thanks. I don't take it personally, I just wish peace and love to you and everybody on this board as well as the band. The dark side of the force needs to take a hike.

And THAT one shows the Bassman head behind Brian is in fact unplugged from the power line entirely...the plug is laying behind it. What a crazy setup!

Absolutely agree, it's no longer the album.

Your comment reminded me though of the Beatles Yellow Submarine album, which originally had the orchestrations as filler, but was reissued at some stage with stray singles/b-sides. It was no longer the album, but it was a better listening experience.

The "songtrack" version was probably an excellent purchase and listen for alot of people who saw the film or were looking for a greatest hits in 1999 but it never seemed like a necessary purchase with the main discography in hand.

In general I have a problem with reissues changing the core tracklist while retaining the same title and artwork. Just call it a compilation with a fresh title. For a more recent example, I'm a big fan of 90's shoegazers Lilys but am disappointedly skipping the forthcoming reissue of their second record due to bonus tracks at the expense of the original program.

Speaking of what's in a name, I wonder if anyone's ever ordered a stock-photo listed copy of BB85 only to find that 20/20 looking Pickwick comp in their mailbox. Entirely different circumstances I know, but the point is album titles create expectations.