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 51 
 on: Yesterday at 05:23:06 PM 
Started by CenturyDeprived - Last post by ♩♬☮ Billy C ♯♫♩☮
^Agreed CD

Debbie, as usual thank you so much for sharing your recollections!

 52 
 on: Yesterday at 04:14:19 PM 
Started by CenturyDeprived - Last post by CenturyDeprived
I think, from what I understood from Brian, he wanted a place to get away and record what he wanted to do without being overruled.


If *anyone* deserved this (total creative control/freedom from agenda-driven bandmates/politics), it's Brian. 

That he had to go through all sorts of hoops to attain that freedom bugs me and should bug everyone too. It's beyond ridiculous the crap he had to go through and egos he had to put up with. Urgh.

</rant>

(thanks again Debbie for your amazing stories and recollections).

 53 
 on: Yesterday at 02:38:41 PM 
Started by CenturyDeprived - Last post by Debbie KL
While walking down the avenue

I stopped to take a look at you

But you were only passing by....

This is very similar to what I heard on that tape, if not exactly what I heard on tape. I'm working off memories decades old without the recording.

 54 
 on: Yesterday at 02:37:17 PM 
Started by CenturyDeprived - Last post by Debbie KL
Stephen - the way I read Debbie's tale of the spliced tape, it relates to "Passing By", not "Til I Die"...

Legendary OSD - I'm understanding Debbie's tale that these "Passing By" lyrics were written AFTER the instrumental version of the song was already released on Friends...and I seem to recall reading elsewhere that they were written as part of that effort to get BW songs recorded by other artists (in a similar way that the lyrics to songs like "Don't Worry Baby" were rewritten so that they might appeal to a wider range of artists who would then potentially cover them)...I believe this might have been after Murry sold the catalog to A&M...

Debbie, am I correct on both counts?

Yes, Stephen. That's what Tandyn told me as well. He said that the people who bought the catalog wanted lyrics to "Passing By."

 55 
 on: Yesterday at 02:35:33 PM 
Started by CenturyDeprived - Last post by Debbie KL
I was at Tandyn Almar's and he told me he had a box of audiotape of Brian doing a vocal with lyrics to "Passing By," developed after it was released without lyrics. He knew that I was an uber-fan who might take on putting the tape back together. I actually spent 2-3 days splicing the wad of tape to put back on the reel. It worked and I got to hear it. I was told by someone here that they had a copy of that tape. I have no idea if it came from the tape I spliced back together (have no idea what Tandyn did with it) or another copy. In any case, it was worth all the work just to hear it.

COMMENT to Debby KL:  Tandyn Almar use to entertain Brian at his house (off Laurel Canyon, wasn't it?). I'd to go up there and get Brian to come back to the studio for vocals. Sometimes there would be several people up at Tandyn, in full party mood. But, Tandyn had a 4-track, I think it was, that he and Brian would record with -- working on ideas, mostly Brian's. In fact the guys often thought the original lyrics to TID were drug derived. At any rate, Brian would make these recordings at Tandyn's and overdub some ideas. These recordings were completely disconnected from the studio recording of TID. Now I'm wondering if this box of tapes you worked with were actually from those times when Brian was developing his thoughts with Tandyn?  I have no facts here, just putting two and two together trying to figure the source of this original lyric recording. ~swd

This actually gets more entertaining, even if it was awful. Apparently the 4-track belonged to Brian, and was given to Billy Elder, an engineer down Laurel Canyon Bl. a few blocks from Tandyn's home (Billy was a buddy of his). This agreement was "in exchange for studio time." I saw the 4-track at Billy's. Tandyn also let me see the attorney's letter from one of Marilyn's friends demanding that it be returned, "to avoid further action and embarrassment." Tandyn was very witty and the attorney (if he actually was one) was not  witty, and misspelled many words in the letter (it was stunningly stupid). Tandyn sent a reply, something to the effect of, "...I reject the charges but look forward to the embarrassment." The 4-track stayed at Billy's. I think, from what I understood from Brian, he wanted a place to get away and record what he wanted to do without being overruled. I believe Bruce and Terry offered him a similar deal. It never worked out well for Brian.

 56 
 on: Yesterday at 02:20:41 PM 
Started by CenturyDeprived - Last post by Debbie KL

An alternate lyric version with Brian singing "that holds me up" and "I found my way" on the refrains does still exist, because I've been lucky enough to hear it, but it definitely sounds like a rough mix. The vocals are dry and instead of fading the coda keeps going until it hits a dead stop. So something is still in the vaults, wherever it came from.

COMMENT to wjcerar:  Good, glad to hear something is still around. Nevertheless, it would be a ruff mix that I made very early in the song's beginnings. AND I've just forgotten about it. The song was in the works for months, but then left alone for a long time. In other words, it as in a finished form on the multi-track so no one paid attention to it, working on other songs. Then when it came time to properly mix it down . . .    ~swd

I would call this a bullet dodged, but I'm not certain this was the only tape, nor was this a release:  I was at Tandyn Almar's and he told me he had a box of audiotape of Brian doing a vocal with lyrics to "Passing By," developed after it was released without lyrics. He knew that I was an uber-fan who might take on putting the tape back together. I actually spent 2-3 days splicing the wad of tape to put back on the reel. It worked and I got to hear it. I was told by someone here that they had a copy of that tape. I have no idea if it came from the tape I spliced back together (have no idea what Tandyn did with it) or another copy. In any case, it was worth all the work just to hear it.

Wow, great story Deb. What I wouldn't give to hear THAT! Remember much about it in any way, shape or form?? I always wondered if there were, in fact, lyrics for that song. Were they Brian's or did Mike try to turn it into a surfing song?


I remember that Brian was in excellent voice and Tandyn told me he had done the lyrics. I somehow remember, this much, "Somewhere along the avenue, I stopped to have a look at you, I didn't know we were just passing by." I don't know much beyond that...wish I did. It was worth all that work.

 57 
 on: Yesterday at 01:16:18 PM 
Started by rab2591 - Last post by JK
Forgot to mention that I'm also very fond of the soundtrack to the 1974 version of The Great Gatsby - which was one of the best aspects of the movie for me.... and they had to go and ruin it all on the DiCaprio version of the film, of which I've seen a few clips but am not keen on checking out

Aww. No love for the stunning party scene from the 2013 version?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMsacoc9DnQ

 58 
 on: Yesterday at 10:36:21 AM 
Started by Watamushi(Polly Poller) - Last post by Gettin Hungry
Speaking of "Thank You," thank you for including links to the songs.

 59 
 on: Yesterday at 10:26:49 AM 
Started by rickymyfataar - Last post by Juice Brohnston
Hung Up and Overdue on Petty's 'She's The One' Soundtrack. And Carl's on background vocals.  Actually that whole album seems to contain many homages to artists like The Byrds, Dylan, BB's etc. Always felt that it was underrated.

 60 
 on: Yesterday at 10:24:19 AM 
Started by rickymyfataar - Last post by Juice Brohnston
There weren't any readily available online so I scanned a few of those BW, PS-Smile era tribute shots from Cornelius' "Fantasma" booklet, for those interested.







Seeing those kinds of photos in an album package 20 years ago was like finding a kindred spirit in terms of knowing and paying tribute to the best music ever made... Smiley

These are awesome!

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