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51  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson 2020 Live Thread on: January 20, 2020, 10:04:21 AM
All tickets for the show are 50% off...just received an email from Ticketmaster. About half the seats are sold at this time...still spots right in the front row available, and on the other hand, you could get a seat for as low as eleven bucks for this show now.
52  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson 2020 Live Thread on: January 19, 2020, 08:02:08 PM
I'd imagine most of Brian's thoughts in the 1960's about his future were spent thinking he probably wouldn't even make it to the 1970's, let alone his music.
53  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: When was the last time Bruce Johnston played bass? on: January 15, 2020, 02:03:34 PM
True.
And, please, don't send me death threats for saying this, but I find the Mike / Bruce shows from today way better than the Beach Boys shows from the mid-90s.

No doubt about that. As someone that was not in the fandom then, I find it hard to imagine myself actually going to those shows year after year had I been. It's just so damn cringey. They did a lot of cool double-billed tours that would've been great...Chicago, Three Dog Night, America, The Everly Brothers, Roy Orbison, Jerry Lee Lewis etc.
54  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Classic Or Modern Beach Boys? on: January 15, 2020, 02:01:35 PM
When you have to take your cap off for the anthem...


Amazing to me how much hair Al still has. In a lot of pics from the 70's and early 80's, he appears to be going bald. I suppose it's possible he had a transplant... but if so, why didn't Mike ever pursue that option, since it apparently is such a sensitive issue with him?
I guess that's why Bruce now wears the baseball cap on stage - in solidarity with Mike.

Behind that horizon line of hair straight across his head, Bruce has no hair behind it! See my link from the first page...he's also stopped dying it since then.
55  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Classic Or Modern Beach Boys? on: January 14, 2020, 08:32:33 PM
What's up with the snarly look on Bruce's face? Looks like he just came up from underground to represent the Lollipop Guild...
56  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Classic Or Modern Beach Boys? on: January 10, 2020, 05:29:45 PM
I would argue that Mike has never done a full length concert without a hat since the 1960's. Maybe there's a handful of exceptions in the early 70's...but once he started sifting through various headdresses, before finally landing on the infamous baseball cap (with BEACH BOYS on it, to remind everyone what show they're at) I don't think he ever took it off!

Bruce seemed to join the hat club after C50. I've seen various photos of him without it through all decades prior. He's lost a ton of hair since then, but it's poofed up in such a way that you wouldn't notice it from the front. There's some shots from Dodger Stadium that especially reveal it.

Edit: As Seen HERE: https://www.alamy.com/mike-love-of-the-beach-boys-waves-to-the-crowd-before-the-los-angeles-dodgers-play-the-pittsburgh-pirates-on-opening-day-during-the-50th-anniversary-of-dodger-stadium-in-los-angeles-on-april-10-2012-upi-photo-phil-mccarten-image257603771.html?pv=1&stamp=2&imageid=4CFA4C47-D88E-4F09-84AB-B094E6C754B5&p=853946&n=0&orientation=0&pn=2&searchtype=0&IsFromSearch=1&srch=foo%3dbar%26st%3d0%26pn%3d2%26ps%3d100%26sortby%3d2%26resultview%3dsortbyPopular%26npgs%3d0%26qt%3dmike%2520love%2520beach%2520boys%26qt_raw%3dmike%2520love%2520beach%2520boys%26lic%3d3%26mr%3d0%26pr%3d0%26ot%3d0%26creative%3d%26ag%3d0%26hc%3d0%26pc%3d%26blackwhite%3d%26cutout%3d%26tbar%3d1%26et%3d0x000000000000000000000%26vp%3d0%26loc%3d0%26imgt%3d0%26dtfr%3d%26dtto%3d%26size%3d0xFF%26archive%3d1%26groupid%3d%26pseudoid%3d%26a%3d%26cdid%3d%26cdsrt%3d%26name%3d%26qn%3d%26apalib%3d%26apalic%3d%26lightbox%3d%26gname%3d%26gtype%3d%26xstx%3d0%26simid%3d%26saveQry%3d%26editorial%3d1%26nu%3d%26t%3d%26edoptin%3d%26customgeoip%3d%26cap%3d1%26cbstore%3d1%26vd%3d0%26lb%3d%26fi%3d2%26edrf%3d0%26ispremium%3d1%26flip%3d0%26pl%3d
57  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson 2020 Live Thread on: January 07, 2020, 02:16:00 PM
I received an email this afternoon "announcing" that Brian Wilson tickets were now on sale for the concert at the MGM National Harbor Casino. I see the prices have been lowered since they first went on sale months ago and only about 25% of the tickets have actually been sold to a show that's two weeks away. I was concerned about the size of this venue when it was announced. If they wanted to do a Greatest Hits show somewhere in the area, why not go back to the theatre district of DC...between the Lincoln, Hamilton, and Warner...they could've played to a packed house somewhere there.
58  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: December 11, 2019, 02:28:56 PM
For better or for worse, any band called "Mike Love's *anything*" wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the number of or profile of gigs that the group known as "The Beach Boys" have since Carl's passing...and that's saying something, as those weren't even always the prettiest of performance opportunities...
59  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: December 07, 2019, 10:10:44 AM
Three nights at the bowl with no one else on the bill, or additional band members, is beyond optimistic...even if it is 4th of July.
60  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: December 06, 2019, 06:16:03 PM
...and on 4th of July none the less...hmm...there's gotta be other folks on the bill...or...maybe....could it be?.....
61  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: December 04, 2019, 06:38:51 PM
Mike and Bruce have announced an incredibly ambitious batch of dates and venues for the North East throughout March and April.

Several within driving distance of me, but all week nights...and all very ambitious venue choices, in my opinion.

Parx Casino in Philly holds about 4,000
Hershey Capacity in Hershey holds about 2,000 (I guess that's about normal for them, or slightly over)
The Anthem in Washington, DC holds 6,000 (Seriously, guys?!)

Good Luck!

No way Parx holds 4k. That's standing room. Seating capacity is 2,550. I saw Brian do Pet Sounds there last year.

M&B regularly fill 2k capacity theaters.

Your Anthem figure is standing, too. It seats 2.5k to 3k. Not too unreasonable for them. I've seen them play in venues of that size.

Notice how you were overwhelmingly positive towards the M&B band, and then Bruce made a rude comment to you...and now it's almost all negativity from your side?


I didn't realize those were standing room figures...I *stand* corrected!  LOL


Yeah, I do carry a chip on my shoulder because of that. I see a LOT of musicians every year. I meet a lot of musicians every year. I also work with musicians every day and week, and am a music educator. I've never been verbally berated by a performer for wishing them good night. Much less, one that I've spent thousands of dollars on and have seen over a dozen times and met previously. I asked nothing of him. I wished him good night.

The hired hands of The Beach Boys are primarily a solid set of remarkable musicians. Scott Totten and John Cowsill are the heart and soul of the band now. I still give much credit to Mike Love for his stamina as he approaches 80 years of age, but his stage shtick and nasal vocals aren't the reason it's a well oiled machine either. Bruce Johnston is nothing but an ass riding a cash cow. He contributes very little to the onstage experience. So he certainly has no excuse for bringing negativity to the off stage experience.

Better yet... I rarely post here. Why the hell am I defending my opinion based on personal experience to some stranger?
62  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: December 04, 2019, 02:56:43 PM
Mike and Bruce have announced an incredibly ambitious batch of dates and venues for the North East throughout March and April.

Several within driving distance of me, but all week nights...and all very ambitious venue choices, in my opinion.

Parx Casino in Philly holds about 4,000
Hershey Capacity in Hershey holds about 2,000 (I guess that's about normal for them, or slightly over)
The Anthem in Washington, DC holds 6,000 (Seriously, guys?!)

Good Luck!
63  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: November 16, 2019, 08:44:46 PM
Mike and Bruce's crowds are among the worst I've ever experienced. It doesn't matter the venue. Typically about 75% of the audience consists of the most ignorant slice of folks over the age of 75, that act like they're 175. Bruce will turn on you in a heartbeat. Such an ass.
64  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson 2020 Live Thread on: November 05, 2019, 05:58:59 PM
I've said it before on here and was shot down, but I'll add it again as it seems relevant: a touring insider (as we'll call them- no one on Brian's team, but still involved with the event) told me in 2015 at Montgomery College that Brian's tour would barely break even an that at the end of the day, merchandise and VIP packages is where the marginal profit was being turned.

They don't run a cheap production. There are a LOT of people involved and a lot of accommodations made, not just for Brian. Plus, recently I'd say more so 2018 onward, they don't seem to be filling the venues like the first few years out of C50 with the Jeff Beck tour, No Pier Pressure, and the initial 50th Farewell to Pet Sounds. I only see two ways to really turn this around, if they even want to bother with that. Maybe packed houses aren't a concern, but less packed houses will lead to less bookings...anyway: Option #1 The Beach Boys reunite (HA!) Option #2 Brian Wilson Presents SMiLE...again. It's been long enough and I know that I'd be first in line for this show, with this band (and AL!!!). But, this would be incredibly taxing for Brian however, I believe if he were truly driven to do it, then it could still be something special.
65  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: October 11, 2019, 09:33:26 PM
Actually pretty cool to be fair. Imagine your local bar/ restaurant and you get this...

https://youtu.be/E9Pp5hGrAH4

https://youtu.be/jpUWMpfzBLg

Bruce sounds fantastic! Really cool to see them in a different environment. Thanks for sharing!

IKR!! I almost lost my jaw when he started the falsetto on fun fun fun, like how the hell is he managing that in his age?
And these clips only makes me more furious that they don’t give him more spotlight at the regular shows.

What is going on?!  That falsetto is so high!  Has Bruce been drinking from the same fountain of youth as Al Jardine?

Not with any regularity! I'll give credit where it's due; he nails it here. But that is NOT always the case!
66  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson 2020 Live Thread on: October 11, 2019, 01:13:25 PM
The DC date appears set for about a capacity of 4,000 (perhaps not utilizing all floor space, or bringing the stage forward) with tickets ranging from $50-$500 for the meet and greet package. Seeing as its a weeknight, a poor choice of venue, and at least a two hour drive in DC traffic mid-week, I'll have to pass on this one!
67  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: October 08, 2019, 06:09:05 PM
Not sure if there's a 2020 Tour page yet, but Brian will be at the MGM National Harbor Casino on January 22nd with "Greatest Hits Live" … this venue seems way too big for Brian, in my opinion.

I've never been to this theater....how big is it?  Having just seen the absolutely sublime show in Philadelphia just over a week ago, a greatest hits show in a casino gives me some trepidation.  It will be interesting to see if they keep some of the deep cuts from the Something Great 68 tour.  Please please please...

According to the website, it has 3,000 seats however, I believe that's referencing the permanent seats in the upper tiers. The floor probably holds an additional 2-3,000 seats. I had the misfortune of seeing Cher there last year (a birthday gift to my mother). I would guess they seat about 5,000-6,000 for a concert.
68  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: October 07, 2019, 03:07:09 PM
Not sure if there's a 2020 Tour page yet, but Brian will be at the MGM National Harbor Casino on January 22nd with "Greatest Hits Live" … this venue seems way too big for Brian, in my opinion.
69  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: September 15, 2019, 06:46:27 PM
But honestly, you're getting both. As long as Al Jardine's on stage with Brian there's still someone that sounds like 1965 on stage!  LOL

Seriously though, well written review. The clips I've seen are encouraging. I wish I could catch this tour.
70  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: September 07, 2019, 02:24:35 PM
Surprised they would remove "Till I Die"...probably the greatest post-Pet Sounds composition in Brian's catalog, totally fits the theming of this tour, too.

It's still such a missed opportunity that they didn't pair the Pet Sounds tour with the Zombies' O&O tour. That would've been mind-blowing to encompass live in one evening. Also, props to The Zombies on taking the shorter set time. Brian Wilson and The Zombies tend to fill venues of about equal size on their own, and could have easily billed this as more of a co-headlining production.
71  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: September 03, 2019, 07:25:01 PM
Who is the new falsetto singer/third keyboardist in Mike's band?  ... Or Ike/Rob/Jeff's fill in?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3EYd7qWuiA

I don't know, but it's pretty amazing they're down to fourth on the falsetto depth chart this summer.

Just from the 5-second clips of each song, he doesn't sound very Beach Boys-y.

Damn rough vocals in that clip, too. Do they really need a second pretend keyboardist?
72  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: September 03, 2019, 04:08:21 PM
Considering the powers that be do read these boards, what are the chances the Jeff/Carl video is gone by the next show?  Just tell the guy not to press ‘play’ on that one.

And what do you know....

https://youtu.be/O_1YaR4ZbBM

Edit: Looking again at the clip I could be mistaken. I still see a guitar behind the group.

It's the same video. It blends into the Foskett footage. The vocals were really thin and unsteady on that...damn.
73  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: September 02, 2019, 01:56:45 PM
They should have Al do more doubling of leads with Brian. At this stage in the game, I think it's totally acceptable. The first line of "Do it Again" was pretty weak, and even sliding off key...but when Al came in with Brian on the second, it pulled his vocal right back into shape.
74  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: August 31, 2019, 11:25:24 PM
Much more confident vocals from Brian in those clips, but those hits typically do have more confident vocals...especially "California Girls". Anxious to see the setlist...despite Brian's deterioration this year, I'd still love to see this tour and am truly bummed it isn't coming close enough.
75  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: August 26, 2019, 07:17:19 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong as I only saw M&B once prior to C50: The Beach Boys (or the band that tours as them) never toured with a video screen prior to C50, yes? I don't mean, cameras projected THEM onto a screen, I mean a presentation was prepared the aligned with the music for the evening.
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