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151  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: No Endless Summer on: March 08, 2019, 07:47:51 PM
Smaller venue circuit hits sooner? That boom of arenas and stadiums in the late 70's into the early 80's probably never would've happened, and the legacy would be even more watered down than it already is.
152  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: March 01, 2019, 12:14:32 PM
Foskett was present on 2/2/2019 so I think he misses some gigs but not others.

For Bruce being all over the place, check out this clip. He has cue cards for some reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnzYw7p3qCI

I've noticed those as well but have never had a vantage point to read them. Gosh that clip was rough, all the way around...
153  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: February 28, 2019, 06:58:07 PM
I assumed Bruce's keyboard was a prop but this is what I was told by Scott Totten ...


"Bruce's keyboard is always on.  His keyboard is the main sound in DARLIN and the chorus and bridge of VIBES."

Yes, Scott told me the same exact thing. I have watched Bruce's keyboard intently during those songs and others from many viewpoints and at many different concerts and as a pianist myself, I will say with the utmost confidence that the only song he plays EVERY time, is "Disney Girls" on the cheesy 80's EP sound. I have also picked it up occasionally on "Don't Worry Baby" and have seen him give starting pitches for "Their Hearts Were Full of Spring" with that keyboard. That is it. I've never seen or heard anything to indicate playing on "Darlin" or "Good Vibrations". His hands are all over the place...and he is CONSTANTLY obsessed with the mix and signaling to the sound guy which makes it even funnier. The only other speculation I can make, is that he sometimes plays vocal harmony parts that are doubled only for in-ear monitoring and not in the house mix, which would explain why his playing seems out of time and inconsistent.
154  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: February 27, 2019, 05:54:46 PM
Bruce's keyboard has been a prop for forty years.
155  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: January 25, 2019, 11:12:49 AM
Dang that stinks - was hoping Baltimore would be more affordable - I'm not close but saw the show in Ohio has seats as low as $20...

Received an email today for presale for Baltimore show...yes, it's all back up and running. No tickets under $100...no thanks!

I had 2nd row seats at Montgomery College for $10 each in 2015. No way am I paying triple digits four years later for a show I've seen three times since.
156  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: January 24, 2019, 07:37:57 PM
Received an email today for presale for Baltimore show...yes, it's all back up and running. No tickets under $100...no thanks!
157  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: January 17, 2019, 06:50:57 PM
June 12, 2019 - Baltimore, MD - Hippodrome Theatre

Is this one still on?  I don't see it on the Hippodrome calendar or BW's tour page.  Thanks!



Interesting! It has vanished completely from Brian's tour page as well as his Facebook page. I never saw it on the Hippodrome website to begin with. I wonder if they jumped the gun with promotion and something fell through.
158  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: January 10, 2019, 04:59:45 PM
Out of curiousity, how long does it take for a band of Brian's caliber to rehearse a song from scratch up until it's ready to be performed? Take for example "Mess of Help" which they haven't done live (and I can dream, can't I?). If Brian came up with the idea to play it, how long before it could be in the setlist?

To play it well with accuracy? A half hour?

To re-create the record and ensure that can be repeated night after night? (For these guys) probably just a few days.

I think the repetitive setlists are to keep Brian on track although, that seems to bore him. This band could play thirty different songs every night without a problem.
159  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: January 09, 2019, 02:23:16 PM
That was very carefully crafted to only show Mike and Bruce, for a change!
160  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: January 08, 2019, 01:34:43 PM
Baltimore Hippodrome June 12th

This is BS. He brought the 50th Anniversary of Pet Sounds Final Performances to this venue in August of 2016, and now what? The FINAL FINAL performance in 2019?

I'll pass.
161  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: December 08, 2018, 02:02:20 PM
Never seen this happen before: Mike forgets the lyrics to surfin safari!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhxErnS24wk



He didn't quite "forget the words"...he jut messed up the form. He started into the chorus after the guitar solo, heard them shift to the IV chord on the verse, and then it sounds like Foskett takes over to finish the phrase as Mike hops back in with another go round of the chorus.
162  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: December 06, 2018, 01:31:10 PM
Yeah, that's about how they sounded the night before.
163  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: December 03, 2018, 08:21:21 PM
None of them have the tact to bow out gracefully with a farewell tour...there have been countless opportunities in the past oh...forty years or so, to do something like that and it could have left them in such a better place. It'll never happen. I wouldn't necessarily say they'll never perform together again. But with Mike, Bruce, and Brian don't even have their 2012 chops anymore to do something on a C50 scale. To market them at that height, in those kinds of venues...would end up being an embarrassment.

I've said it before, I'll say it again...as a fan (not making any judgements or assumptions), I'd like to see "The Beach Boys" defined as Brian Wilson's touring band with John Cowsill and Scott Totten...fronted by Mike Love, Al Jardine, and David Marks. Mike brings the signature showmanship that, like it or not, is associated with the attitude of this band on stage. Alan brings authenticity in his vocals and sincerity that can't be replaced. David brings some sick guitar licks and adds to the authenticity. Bruce Johnston is disposable. He played his keyboard audibly, one time Sunday night on "White Christmas" and it was just poorly timed rolling chords on the downbeats. His vocals are like a notch between a crackle and a whisper. He can surf his days away in Santa Barbara. And then there's Brian. I'd like to see Brian given a free pass. If he wants to come along, there's a keyboard and his lead vocals are waiting for him. If he doesn't feel up to a run of shows, then the production can run all systems go without him present as it has many times before. The key would be to never advertise or confirm his presence, and that any extended expense of his travel beyond what the rest of the band requires, is covered himself...as that simply isn't fair to people who are out year round making a living off this.

BUT...that'll never happen. Of course, timing plays a part, but I suspect Brian's show will stop before Mike's does. I'd imagine his band will split and find their own work, very easily, elsewhere. Blondie will disappear back into the darkness, and Alan will continue with his couple dozen solo shows a year. When it's time for Mike to stop or he is stopped by higher powers, I have zero doubt that "The Beach Boys" will tour. The rock and roll answer to the Glen Miller Orchestra. I doubt Bruce would stay without Mike. Would David and/or Alan for that matter, be invited without the Lovester around? Would that then give Bruce reason to stay? All interesting thoughts for sure.
164  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: December 02, 2018, 07:07:22 PM
I just wrote a big review of the show tonight and my internet was lost and with it, the post was lost. I'm not typing it again.

The band was in very rough shape tonight. The first half was far less than okay, and many people in my section noted it. "Darlin" actually crashed and burned when Cowsill missed a fill and the whole band froze for about three seconds looking panicked. Mike and Bruce look and sounds damn rough. The band was not tight in fact, it was quite messy. I point this out because it is not the norm. I was quite shocked.

Part Two was better, but still rough around the edges. It was wonderful to hear the old Christmas music that I never thought I'd hear live. Mike is singing with the recording of himself on his new Christmas songs.

2018 was not a good year overall for Beach Boys live and I hope that doesn't mean we've passed the point of no return. Mike, Brian, and Bruce are not in good voice. Mike's band is not the tight and well-oiled machine they have been from like 2013-2017. Perhaps this is because they've had more of a revolving door lately. The highlight of 2018 by a landslide, is Al Jardine's Storyteller Shows. If your concert budget allows one Beach Boys experience, that's the way to go. His voice still sounds like 1965, his stories are down to earth and honest, his son is a huge asset to the show, great setlist that allows for fan input (Santa Ana Winds from yours truly), and there's a free meet-and-greet afterwards. What's not to like?
165  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: November 22, 2018, 03:49:33 PM
I agree it is time to retire the Pet Sounds Tour. I got to see it in 2016 and I very much enjoyed it. But it is time to tour under a different set list at least to keep Brian interested. PS was one of the greatest albums of all time, but anyone would find it to get a bit stale to sing for 2 years....
Now that Jeff Foskett is gone, maybe we can finally get some of the Love You material in the setlist.

I'm probably going to get some flak for this, but the new guy replacing Matt sucks.

I think that's a bit harsh however, I agree that he is a downgrade from Matt Jardine.
166  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: November 17, 2018, 03:39:01 PM
Thanks! I actually created an account a year or two ago and didn't realized I'd never posted here, haha.

Also, there was an album of instrumental orchestrated arrangements of Beach Boys songs playing before the show began. I can't confirm it because I don't have copies on-hand, but I'm pretty sure it was the two Hollyridge Strings Play The Beach Boys albums.

That is correct. Also playing at The Kennedy Center...I believe it was used on the 2016 PS dates too?
167  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: November 14, 2018, 05:45:19 PM
Because that line hasn't been used during the Pet Sounds tour (2016-2019?) before...I'm thinking of our English fans in particular...
168  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: November 13, 2018, 06:12:33 PM
New Pet Sounds Date for JUNE 2019...the "Artpark" in NYC...
169  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread on: November 10, 2018, 12:17:38 PM
I went ahead and bought tickets for the front row of the balcony at The Lyric for the Baltimore date next month. What the heck. Let's give the Christmas show a shot.
170  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: November 10, 2018, 12:16:01 PM
Just got home from Atlanta. Brian threw us a curveball tonight and took a show that was advertised as a GH show and threw in the entire PS album. I was surprised. Nice to finally hear "Feel Flows" from this tour.

Interesting. The show I purchased tickets to coming up in a couple weeks was advertised as Greatest Hits, but now says Pet Sounds on the venue website and Brian's website.
I'm guessing they didn't have time to rehearse both sets before the tour, but that's kind of a bummer. I'm glad I didn't go to the Atlanta show after seeing the setlist. I love pet sounds, but I had a good enough experience with it in 2016 that I don't want to taint the memory of it.

They've performed one greatest hits show so far this fall on November 1st. It had four less songs than the Pet Sounds show but, several songs that aren't in the Pet Sounds show, so I don't think rehearsal is a problem...the show included:


-Little Honda
-Salt Lake City
-Wake The World
-Add Some Music To Your Day
-Wild Honey
-Do it Again
-All Summer Long

The PS shows have not included those selections this fall, even though they have in the past.
171  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: November 08, 2018, 02:09:57 PM
I tried to respond to RubberSoul13 but my response got lost in the middle of his quote.  Saw Brian on election night?  Band as great as ever.  Blondie and Al delightful, BW son in law sang nicely.  Brian looks and sounded tired.  Behavior much as described by RS13.  Missed lyrics, tired out after a few songs.  Limping on and off stage with two assistants.  Wearing a full length leg brace.  I feel like Brian is once again being "handled" and would rather be home watching tv and eating a sandwich.   I think the time has come for him to sit and watch the sun set on this beautiful day.

What was the run time for the show? I'm seeing him in about two weeks and trying to figure out childcare.

Short. No intermission and they don't leave the stage for the encore and back. It ran from exactly 8:04-9:44pm in DC on Monday night.
172  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: November 06, 2018, 06:40:19 AM
Sounds like a great deal was due to getting tired and the pain. The opening part sounds promising!

I’ve always pretty much been the very definition of a Brianista. I have no qualms admitting that. With that in mind if he really is tired of doing Pet Sounds then it needs to end. Again, that’s IF. But of the description it sounds like he just wore out

I totally agree, I don't mean to undermine the life-long and recent health battles he's been fighting. In addition to that, I think there is waning interest in Pet Sounds from Brian because at all three PS shows I've seen since 2016, he's more interested (in varying degrees) and engaging during the first set than Pet Sounds...and when it's the Pet Sounds tour after all, one would expect that portion of the show to be the peak of interest for both performer and consumer.
173  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: November 05, 2018, 09:23:37 PM
Pleasant surprises and slight demises at the Kennedy Center this evening. I was delighted to find that a 12-piece accumulation of the NSO was present for the concert this evening. They added SO much more than the other two Pet Sounds shows I've seen. "Feel Flows" was a pleasant surprise. Al Jardine remembering me at the lip of the stage from the club gig in March was a huge surprise. Brian's physicality was an unpleasant surprise and begins the demise. I actually gasped out loud completely by shock reaction when I saw him. His face is so pale and sunken in and his legs are so thin. He walked out like an unsteady Grizzly Bear using it's hind legs. I was very concerned. Now, for the first ten songs, he was really into it. I saw and HEARD him playing more than I ever have. He was singing really beautiful high harmonies on "Feel Flows". Cool stuff. He would look up at the large concert hall after every song with a unique sparkle of astonishment at the place. Then as "Sail on Sailor" begin, he was gone. His hands were at his sides and he sang minimally.


This was undoubtedly the best I had heard an ensemble perform Pet Sounds however, it was probably the worst I've seen Brian perform it. Contrary to other posters, I don't think he sang poorly. The problem was that he didn't sing. He didn't try to sing...so many times. He missed entire verses and choruses of YSBIM, Sloop, GOK (he sang the first two verses and slumped after that), IJWMFTT, and Caroline No. About half the songs on the record he botched vocally, simply by not participating. Then, poor Alan, or Darian, or the new guy who seems skittish as a damn chihuahua up there and is nowhere near as powerful a vocalist as Matt Jardine (or Foskett for that matter...and I can't stand the guy)...well, they would have to scramble which created an equally sloppy sound to catch the missing line in the song. I don't what the answer is. Brian is clearly disinterested with Pet Sounds and it concerns me that it's still being drug out and about. I'll be curious to hear if his demeanor changes for the Christmas shows. Also, there was no intermission or encore (likely to avoid moving too much) but when it was time to leave the stage, it was a massive struggle. He could not lift his own weight. His legs wobbled like crazy and his knees sank several times. It was truly sad. I hope there's an answer, and I hope we can see and hear some rejuvenation somewhere somehow soon, and that this sort of behavior will not be what marks the end of times for the Brian Wilson history.
174  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: November 05, 2018, 01:08:41 PM
I'll be at the Kennedy Center this evening, Row 3 Center in my Pet Sounds 2016 Shirt..."The Final Performances" LOL  LOL
175  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: October 20, 2018, 07:23:28 PM
Some cool news from Facebook: Rob Bonfiglio will be joining up with Brian’s band for the tour. https://www.facebook.com/rob.bonfiglio/posts/10156754515844188?__tn__=H-R

Sorry but...who?
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