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Author Topic: What "commemorative releases" should we expect for the 50th anniversary?  (Read 164517 times)
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« Reply #50 on: January 25, 2012, 01:16:18 PM »

Sure, of course I would.  But if I want to listen to the monos, I'll just pull out my Capitol 2-fers and PastMasters and box sets. If they were to remaster all of the albums (with the correct mixes!) in mono, that would give me an incentive to buy all of them again, confirming first that they're the best versions available audio wise.

I have both the mono and stereo Beatles boxes but all I listen to these days are the stereo discs. Pretty much the same way with The Stones, Kinks, and Who albums.
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« Reply #51 on: January 25, 2012, 01:18:05 PM »

I would like all their albums to be released as single discs with stereo/mono mixes/singles and if room unreleased songs ,new stereo mixes if old ones don't exist or if they can't do ANY stereo mix do "fake stereo" JUST for the songs that can't be remixed into stereo (like they did with the Beatles "capitol records" cd sets),and of course the latter years only stereo,a two or three disc set of all unreleased/rarities from the 60's til the 90's including ALL the songs from various soundtracks,tribute albums,duets etc (Excluding those that are on "Still Cruising" cd re-issue,read below) and a box set with all their songs in chronlogical order (Mono and stereo) without unreleased songs on it.."Still Cruisin" should be re-issued WITHOUT the older tracks and it should have the songs from the 80's and 90's that are out of print.."Sip" should have both american and uk mixes and if room rare songs that are out of print (Like Still Cruisin) but wihtout repeating anything from the 2 or 3 disc box set..there should be NO double dipping with the unreleased songs,all the songs from the first two-fers should be excluded so they can put other unreleased songs and not douple dipping..

That would be a great plan if you really, really wanted to insult the Beach Boys' legacy.
all I'm saying is if there aren't any stereo mixes of certain songs and it can't be done and it's a complete album mono/stereo release than what kind of stereo can they put on the stereo part of the cd or would you just simply leave those songs off the stereo part of the cd and then it wouldn't a complete stereo album?
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« Reply #52 on: January 25, 2012, 01:21:58 PM »

Yeah, well, now we also have "Don't Worry Baby" and "Why Do Fools Fall In Love" in stereo because the tapes were found recently. But not all of the tapes are around to make a consistent complete album. Sure, suedo mixes can be made of some of them, but it's not like having the multi's to do true stereo releases.

I'm not really sure what you mean by "Pseudo" stereo.  The '64 stereo mixes for Don't Worry Baby, Warmth Of The Sun [...] aren't ideally mixed, but they're still in stereo...and they're all we have




Erm, those two have received genuine new stereo mixes.
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« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2012, 01:49:04 PM »

I would like all their albums to be released as single discs with stereo/mono mixes/singles and if room unreleased songs ,new stereo mixes if old ones don't exist or if they can't do ANY stereo mix do "fake stereo" JUST for the songs that can't be remixed into stereo (like they did with the Beatles "capitol records" cd sets),and of course the latter years only stereo,a two or three disc set of all unreleased/rarities from the 60's til the 90's including ALL the songs from various soundtracks,tribute albums,duets etc (Excluding those that are on "Still Cruising" cd re-issue,read below) and a box set with all their songs in chronlogical order (Mono and stereo) without unreleased songs on it.."Still Cruisin" should be re-issued WITHOUT the older tracks and it should have the songs from the 80's and 90's that are out of print.."Sip" should have both american and uk mixes and if room rare songs that are out of print (Like Still Cruisin) but wihtout repeating anything from the 2 or 3 disc box set..there should be NO double dipping with the unreleased songs,all the songs from the first two-fers should be excluded so they can put other unreleased songs and not douple dipping..

That would be a great plan if you really, really wanted to insult the Beach Boys' legacy.
all I'm saying is if there aren't any stereo mixes of certain songs and it can't be done and it's a complete album mono/stereo release than what kind of stereo can they put on the stereo part of the cd or would you just simply leave those songs off the stereo part of the cd and then it wouldn't a complete stereo album?

If a complete true stereo album can't be done, I wouldn't try to do it.

And I wouldn't release or re-release anything later than early '81.
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« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2012, 02:01:11 PM »

There are some songs from the wilderness years that deserve to be stuck on a box set somewhere. eg. It's a Beautiful Day, East Meets West, Chasin' the Sky, Rock and Roll to the Rescue, Make it Big (movie version), Somewhere Near Japan (single mix), Summer in Paradise (U.K. version) etc.
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« Reply #55 on: January 25, 2012, 02:43:03 PM »

Yeah, well, now we also have "Don't Worry Baby" and "Why Do Fools Fall In Love" in stereo because the tapes were found recently. But not all of the tapes are around to make a consistent complete album. Sure, suedo mixes can be made of some of them, but it's not like having the multi's to do true stereo releases.

I'm not really sure what you mean by "Pseudo" stereo.  The '64 stereo mixes for Don't Worry Baby, Warmth Of The Sun [...] aren't ideally mixed, but they're still in stereo...and they're all we have




Erm, those two have received genuine new stereo mixes.

"Warmth Of The Sun" hasn't.
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« Reply #56 on: January 26, 2012, 11:47:46 AM »

Something like this would be nice:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkqsCCivX-Y
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« Reply #57 on: January 26, 2012, 01:46:09 PM »

Yes!!  And more yes!!  That's the ticket!
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« Reply #58 on: January 27, 2012, 02:33:34 AM »

Still Cruisin probably deserves a two disc deluxe edition reissue. That album has gone up in standing for a lot of fans over the years and I think we can all admit that tracks 8-10 are definitely three of the best songs they did in their later years....hell, they practically rival the stuff they did in the 60's!
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« Reply #59 on: January 27, 2012, 02:51:28 AM »

How about Greatest Hits, Volume 4: The Tanner Years (1987-2012)?
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« Reply #60 on: January 27, 2012, 02:52:44 AM »

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« Reply #61 on: January 27, 2012, 03:06:39 AM »

Welcome back, ghost - we'll soon be rid of you again, I'm thinking.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #62 on: January 27, 2012, 03:08:30 AM »

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« Reply #63 on: January 27, 2012, 03:21:02 AM »

I'm not this ghost person and I'm just having a laugh. I'm not a troll.

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« Reply #64 on: January 27, 2012, 07:31:09 AM »

By the way, next month, there's going to be a reissue of "Sounds of Summer" with an added T-shirt. Is that the "commemorative" product Capitol spoke of? What a letdown. But as I have said, if the archival products that many hoped for(or even the 50-song hits compilation that Mr.Doe hinted at) don't materialize, I won't be broken hearted. At least we did get "Smile".

If I want a 50-song 2-disc Beach Boys hits set, I could create one from my own CD collection. Perhaps Mr.Doe could propose a tracklisting similar(or identical) to what Capitol would have released. This would spare Capitol the effort of actually releasing the 50-song collection that Mr.Doe spoke of.
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« Reply #65 on: January 27, 2012, 07:45:43 AM »

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« Reply #66 on: January 27, 2012, 07:48:26 AM »

I don't think this'll be the one, Phil, honestly. This is a little opportunism ahead of the big push, I'm sure.  This is too soon ahead of the tour publicity to cash-in properly, for starters, let alone too far ahead of the summer market.

Bear in mind the growth of download sales, and the fact that this release doesn't exactly lend itself to that medium. They'd be daft to miss out on that market with the new hits package, and there'll be little appetite for an iTunes download version of this Sounds of Summer Merchandise Kit – after all, how the hell is anyone going to be able to download a T-shirt?
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« Reply #67 on: January 27, 2012, 08:11:41 AM »

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« Reply #68 on: January 27, 2012, 10:17:58 AM »

They'd be daft to miss out on that market with the new hits package,


I think a new hits album isn't needed. Sounds [And Sights] Of Summer is a very good one. They should get that out again (like it seems they are doing with the T-shirt edition) and promote it. Why should a new hits package sell more ? It's probably the same material after all. The only exception would be new stereo mixes of course but I don't think they would move more records with a new best of otherwise. They should sell Sounds Of Summer (and maybe the new album ?) at the concerts
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« Reply #69 on: January 27, 2012, 10:45:32 AM »

They'd be daft to miss out on that market with the new hits package,


I think a new hits album isn't needed. Sounds [And Sights] Of Summer is a very good one. They should get that out again (like it seems they are doing with the T-shirt edition) and promote it. Why should a new hits package sell more ? It's probably the same material after all. The only exception would be new stereo mixes of course but I don't think they would move more records with a new best of otherwise. They should sell Sounds Of Summer (and maybe the new album ?) at the concerts

I absolutely agree. But barely a year has gone by when there hasn't been a new greatest hits package, needed or not.  I think it'll happen.
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« Reply #70 on: January 27, 2012, 03:04:24 PM »

Round 2 between Phil and AGD begins.... Pirate

No, not really. If Capitol proposed a track listing for a 50-track 2-CD hits package, then changed their minds and decided not to issue it, then there would be no harm in Mr.Doe telling us what the track listing would have been. Then we could re-create the set on our own CD burners. Even if Mr.Doe decides not to tell us, we could each easily select our 50 favorite Beach Boys tracks and make a 2-disc set anyhow. It's not a big deal. There's no shortage of Beach Boys hits compilations on the market.
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« Reply #71 on: January 27, 2012, 03:34:57 PM »

Utterly bizarre...  I'm sure if Andrew knew the track list he, like anyone else here, would have passed comment by now... Especially if it included his favourite Barbara Ann! Grin
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« Reply #72 on: January 27, 2012, 03:37:31 PM »

Round 2 between Phil and AGD begins.... Pirate

Not really. I don't engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed adversary.

And to prove my point to perfection...

No, not really. If Capitol proposed a track listing for a 50-track 2-CD hits package, then changed their minds and decided not to issue it, then there would be no harm in Mr.Doe telling us what the track listing would have been.

The words "confidence" and "trustworthy" just aren't in your dictionary, are they ? Suppose, for the sake of argument, that I was privvy to a proposed track-listing for a 50-song/2CD set (which comment, btw, was entirely off the cuff, not that you'll believe me) via someone involved in the project who'd asked me to keep it to myself, and that said notion was subsequently abandoned, or morphed into something else (just as 40 Top 40s did back in 2003). According to Cohen, that the project will now not come to fruition is all the justification and excuse I'd need to break the confidence shown in my ability to keep something to myself. Of course, as any sentient being would appreciate, what would actually happen is that said source would dry up at warp speed and take several more with it. And that, my friends, is why some folk have these sources, and Phil Cohen doesn't. That's it. No more on this topic. Been there, done that, won the battle.
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« Reply #73 on: January 27, 2012, 03:40:41 PM »

I'm not this ghost person and I'm just having a laugh. I'm not a troll.

35 posts in 5 days is pretty much the same thing we had from ghost, though to be fair you haven't yet started trying to convince everyone that Brian is better off on hard drugs or that everything Brian ever did is psychedelic.  Smiley
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« Reply #74 on: January 27, 2012, 03:52:19 PM »

Round 2 between Phil and AGD begins.... Pirate

Not really. I don't engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed adversary.
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