New album info (as it rolls out...)

[Paulos]

The samples sound pretty good but just leave me wanting more, only 20 days to go! Regarding the autotune, if it's done tastefully then I don't mind and it's kinda hard to tell from the samples on amazon just how prevalent it is. The thing is that, as other posters have pointed out, Brian has been using tricks on vocals for nearly 50 years e.g. double tracking on virtually everything from Surfin' U.S.A. onwards and speeding the tape up to make the vocals sound younger on Surfin' and Caroline, No. Let's also not forget that the main vocalists of the band are all 69+ and may need a little polish in the studio to smooth off the rough edges.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

But man, saying you don't appreciate reading someone else's opinions, calling them ungrateful and telling him not to share them is not respectful in any manner. I do not understand why folks think because they may not use profanity, that their passive-aggressive insults are any less offensive.

i'm not being passive aggressive at all.  I said he was being ungrateful, nothing passive aggressive about that.  Also nothing passive aggressive about not wanting to hear pouting.  I'm being straight forward about this without having to call someone names.  He's free to post whatever he likes, my initial response to him wasn't some long rant, i let it go.  I personally think name-calling is really low, so I try not to do that because I don't know any of you guys.  

There is no difference in offense between calling someone a "name" and telling them their opinion is unwelcome. The type of person who would not agree is someone who wants to be able to say anything they want to others, and not get called on it. That is an Internet phenomenon. Language matters less than intention.

That's fine if that's what you think

In fact, my point was proved by the effect upon IHA of what you said. HE gets to decide the impact of your words, not you. You just want to say otherwise because you want people to like you. I don't, therefore I'm truthful about what I say.

hey, can you guys all take your fight outside?

Yes, please.

[I. Spaceman]

But man, saying you don't appreciate reading someone else's opinions, calling them ungrateful and telling him not to share them is not respectful in any manner. I do not understand why folks think because they may not use profanity, that their passive-aggressive insults are any less offensive.

i'm not being passive aggressive at all.  I said he was being ungrateful, nothing passive aggressive about that.  Also nothing passive aggressive about not wanting to hear pouting.  I'm being straight forward about this without having to call someone names.  He's free to post whatever he likes, my initial response to him wasn't some long rant, i let it go.  I personally think name-calling is really low, so I try not to do that because I don't know any of you guys. 

There is no difference in offense between calling someone a "name" and telling them their opinion is unwelcome. The type of person who would not agree is someone who wants to be able to say anything they want to others, and not get called on it. That is an Internet phenomenon. Language matters less than intention.

That's fine if that's what you think

In fact, my point was proved by the effect upon IHA of what you said. HE gets to decide the impact of your words, not you. You just want to say otherwise because you want people to like you. I don't, therefore I'm truthful about what I say.

hey, can you guys all take your fight outside?

I'm not fighting, mate. Thanks.

[Rocker]

I wonder why they didn't take Adrian Baker's vocals off "Daybreak over the ocean" and record new ones. Or did they do that only letting Baker's voice stay in ?

I said the same thing in the Amazon clip thread.  So far my only real complaint on the album.  Like that C. Love is on there, but that would have been a great place to also add M. Jardine.   Adrian Baker  is just going to stick out like a really sore and infected thumb on this thing  

Hadn't seen it. Sorry.
I agree though about Baker. But as of yet we don't know how much he will be recognizable. On the amazon-clip you can hear him but not (yet) sticking out.
A Matt Jardine appearance would be nice. But I won't complain. I just wondered about Baker's vocal track(s) being used. His voice is very, very annoying and doesn't fit in very well with the Beach Boys' blend imo. Never has.

[BJL]

I think its worth noting that there may be less Joe Thomas involvement in the songwriting than it looks like, since Joe Thomas seems to be mainly a lyrics writer, I would imagine that the songs with a Thomas, Wilson, and Love credit were first written with Joe Thomas lyrics, then stripped down to just tracks and got new lyrics from Mike Love.  In that kind of situation the old writing credits would generally all stay, but the song would still be substantially brian music and mike words.

[southbay]

I wonder why they didn't take Adrian Baker's vocals off "Daybreak over the ocean" and record new ones. Or did they do that only letting Baker's voice stay in ?

I said the same thing in the Amazon clip thread.  So far my only real complaint on the album.  Like that C. Love is on there, but that would have been a great place to also add M. Jardine.   Adrian Baker  is just going to stick out like a really sore and infected thumb on this thing  

Hadn't seen it. Sorry.
I agree though about Baker. But as of yet we don't know how much he will be recognizable. On the amazon-clip you can hear him but not (yet) sticking out.
A Matt Jardine appearance would be nice. But I won't complain. I just wondered about Baker's vocal track(s) being used. His voice is very, very annoying and doesn't fit in very well with the Beach Boys' blend imo. Never has.

Oh I wasn't saying you should have seen it.  Just agreeing with you.

[southbay]

But man, saying you don't appreciate reading someone else's opinions, calling them ungrateful and telling him not to share them is not respectful in any manner. I do not understand why folks think because they may not use profanity, that their passive-aggressive insults are any less offensive.

i'm not being passive aggressive at all.  I said he was being ungrateful, nothing passive aggressive about that.  Also nothing passive aggressive about not wanting to hear pouting.  I'm being straight forward about this without having to call someone names.  He's free to post whatever he likes, my initial response to him wasn't some long rant, i let it go.  I personally think name-calling is really low, so I try not to do that because I don't know any of you guys.  

There is no difference in offense between calling someone a "name" and telling them their opinion is unwelcome. The type of person who would not agree is someone who wants to be able to say anything they want to others, and not get called on it. That is an Internet phenomenon. Language matters less than intention.

That's fine if that's what you think

In fact, my point was proved by the effect upon IHA of what you said. HE gets to decide the impact of your words, not you. You just want to say otherwise because you want people to like you. I don't, therefore I'm truthful about what I say.

hey, can you guys all take your fight outside?

I'm not fighting, mate. Thanks.

Semantics, mate

[drbeachboy]

I know you have all been waiting. Here is my verdict:

1. Think About The Days - 9/10 (could have been written by Benny Andersson)
2. That's Why God Made The Radio - 5/10 (too pedestrian)
3. Isn't It Time - 4/10 (bland)
4. Spring Vacation - 6/10 (great verses, lousy chorus)
5. The Private Life Of Bill And Sue - 8/10 (I am a sucker for this song)
6. Shelter - 7/10 (shows some promise, the chorus is similar to Darlin')
7. Daybreak Over The Ocean - 8/10 (I liked this one on the Mike Love, Not War album)
8. Beaches In Mind - 3/10 (I've got 3/10 in mind)
9. Strange World - 3/10 (Not my cup of milk)
10. From There To Back Again - 6/10 (introspective looking back type of lyrics)
11. Pacific Coast Highway - 7/10 (introspective looking back type of lyrics again)
12. Summer's Gone - 8/10 (introspective looking back type of lyrics again again)

What do you know that the rest of us don't? Are you rating based on the clips at Amazon?

[I. Spaceman]

But man, saying you don't appreciate reading someone else's opinions, calling them ungrateful and telling him not to share them is not respectful in any manner. I do not understand why folks think because they may not use profanity, that their passive-aggressive insults are any less offensive.

i'm not being passive aggressive at all.  I said he was being ungrateful, nothing passive aggressive about that.  Also nothing passive aggressive about not wanting to hear pouting.  I'm being straight forward about this without having to call someone names.  He's free to post whatever he likes, my initial response to him wasn't some long rant, i let it go.  I personally think name-calling is really low, so I try not to do that because I don't know any of you guys. 

There is no difference in offense between calling someone a "name" and telling them their opinion is unwelcome. The type of person who would not agree is someone who wants to be able to say anything they want to others, and not get called on it. That is an Internet phenomenon. Language matters less than intention.

That's fine if that's what you think

In fact, my point was proved by the effect upon IHA of what you said. HE gets to decide the impact of your words, not you. You just want to say otherwise because you want people to like you. I don't, therefore I'm truthful about what I say.

hey, can you guys all take your fight outside?

I'm not fighting, mate. Thanks.

Can you take whatever you want to call this that is distracting from the actual thread outside?

Did you read the part of the conversation that involved Iron Horse-Apples and Runaways? Address that. That was the fight.
I provided a place to find out some of the cool info discussed on this thread. Don't tell me to take anything anywhere. I've been on point in this thread since I joined in.

[Mendota Heights]

I know you have all been waiting. Here is my verdict:

1. Think About The Days - 9/10 (could have been written by Benny Andersson)
2. That's Why God Made The Radio - 5/10 (too pedestrian)
3. Isn't It Time - 4/10 (bland)
4. Spring Vacation - 6/10 (great verses, lousy chorus)
5. The Private Life Of Bill And Sue - 8/10 (I am a sucker for this song)
6. Shelter - 7/10 (shows some promise, the chorus is similar to Darlin')
7. Daybreak Over The Ocean - 8/10 (I liked this one on the Mike Love, Not War album)
8. Beaches In Mind - 3/10 (I've got 3/10 in mind)
9. Strange World - 3/10 (Not my cup of milk)
10. From There To Back Again - 6/10 (introspective looking back type of lyrics)
11. Pacific Coast Highway - 7/10 (introspective looking back type of lyrics again)
12. Summer's Gone - 8/10 (introspective looking back type of lyrics again again)

What do you know that the rest of us don't? Are you rating based on the clips at Amazon?

Yes. Plus I've heard the full version of Think About the Days God Made Spring Vacation.

[southbay]

But man, saying you don't appreciate reading someone else's opinions, calling them ungrateful and telling him not to share them is not respectful in any manner. I do not understand why folks think because they may not use profanity, that their passive-aggressive insults are any less offensive.

i'm not being passive aggressive at all.  I said he was being ungrateful, nothing passive aggressive about that.  Also nothing passive aggressive about not wanting to hear pouting.  I'm being straight forward about this without having to call someone names.  He's free to post whatever he likes, my initial response to him wasn't some long rant, i let it go.  I personally think name-calling is really low, so I try not to do that because I don't know any of you guys. 

There is no difference in offense between calling someone a "name" and telling them their opinion is unwelcome. The type of person who would not agree is someone who wants to be able to say anything they want to others, and not get called on it. That is an Internet phenomenon. Language matters less than intention.

That's fine if that's what you think

In fact, my point was proved by the effect upon IHA of what you said. HE gets to decide the impact of your words, not you. You just want to say otherwise because you want people to like you. I don't, therefore I'm truthful about what I say.

hey, can you guys all take your fight outside?

I'm not fighting, mate. Thanks.

Can you take whatever you want to call this that is distracting from the actual thread outside?

Did you read the part of the conversation that involved Iron Horse-Apples and Runaways? Address that. That was the fight.
I provided a place to find out some of the cool info discussed on this thread. Don't tell me to take anything anywhere. I've been on point in this thread since I joined in.

Hey, Billy, a little help over here?

[Runaways]

Yes. Plus I've heard the full version of Think About the Days God Made Spring Vacation.

is that an extended remix?  

[Paulos]

I know you have all been waiting. Here is my verdict:

1. Think About The Days - 9/10 (could have been written by Benny Andersson)
2. That's Why God Made The Radio - 5/10 (too pedestrian)
3. Isn't It Time - 4/10 (bland)
4. Spring Vacation - 6/10 (great verses, lousy chorus)
5. The Private Life Of Bill And Sue - 8/10 (I am a sucker for this song)
6. Shelter - 7/10 (shows some promise, the chorus is similar to Darlin')
7. Daybreak Over The Ocean - 8/10 (I liked this one on the Mike Love, Not War album)
8. Beaches In Mind - 3/10 (I've got 3/10 in mind)
9. Strange World - 3/10 (Not my cup of milk)
10. From There To Back Again - 6/10 (introspective looking back type of lyrics)
11. Pacific Coast Highway - 7/10 (introspective looking back type of lyrics again)
12. Summer's Gone - 8/10 (introspective looking back type of lyrics again again)

What do you know that the rest of us don't? Are you rating based on the clips at Amazon?

Yes. Plus I've heard the full version of Think About the Days God Made Spring Vacation.

Oh. Thought you'd heard the whole thing, seems a little strange to give ratings to songs you haven't properly heard yet.

[Mendota Heights]

I know you have all been waiting. Here is my verdict:

1. Think About The Days - 9/10 (could have been written by Benny Andersson)
2. That's Why God Made The Radio - 5/10 (too pedestrian)
3. Isn't It Time - 4/10 (bland)
4. Spring Vacation - 6/10 (great verses, lousy chorus)
5. The Private Life Of Bill And Sue - 8/10 (I am a sucker for this song)
6. Shelter - 7/10 (shows some promise, the chorus is similar to Darlin')
7. Daybreak Over The Ocean - 8/10 (I liked this one on the Mike Love, Not War album)
8. Beaches In Mind - 3/10 (I've got 3/10 in mind)
9. Strange World - 3/10 (Not my cup of milk)
10. From There To Back Again - 6/10 (introspective looking back type of lyrics)
11. Pacific Coast Highway - 7/10 (introspective looking back type of lyrics again)
12. Summer's Gone - 8/10 (introspective looking back type of lyrics again again)

What do you know that the rest of us don't? Are you rating based on the clips at Amazon?

Yes. Plus I've heard the full version of Think About the Days God Made Spring Vacation.

Oh. Thought you'd heard the whole thing, seems a little strange to give ratings to songs you haven't properly heard yet.

You can rate what you've heard.

[I. Spaceman]

But man, saying you don't appreciate reading someone else's opinions, calling them ungrateful and telling him not to share them is not respectful in any manner. I do not understand why folks think because they may not use profanity, that their passive-aggressive insults are any less offensive.

i'm not being passive aggressive at all.  I said he was being ungrateful, nothing passive aggressive about that.  Also nothing passive aggressive about not wanting to hear pouting.  I'm being straight forward about this without having to call someone names.  He's free to post whatever he likes, my initial response to him wasn't some long rant, i let it go.  I personally think name-calling is really low, so I try not to do that because I don't know any of you guys. 

There is no difference in offense between calling someone a "name" and telling them their opinion is unwelcome. The type of person who would not agree is someone who wants to be able to say anything they want to others, and not get called on it. That is an Internet phenomenon. Language matters less than intention.

That's fine if that's what you think

In fact, my point was proved by the effect upon IHA of what you said. HE gets to decide the impact of your words, not you. You just want to say otherwise because you want people to like you. I don't, therefore I'm truthful about what I say.

hey, can you guys all take your fight outside?

I'm not fighting, mate. Thanks.

Can you take whatever you want to call this that is distracting from the actual thread outside?

Did you read the part of the conversation that involved Iron Horse-Apples and Runaways? Address that. That was the fight.
I provided a place to find out some of the cool info discussed on this thread. Don't tell me to take anything anywhere. I've been on point in this thread since I joined in.

Hey, Billy, a little help over here?

Billy's a great guy. I'm sure he can see where the problem was.

[Mendota Heights]

Yes. Plus I've heard the full version of Think About the Days God Made Spring Vacation.

is that an extended remix?  

Yes, it is remixed by John Stamos, Murry Wilson, Eugene Landy and Melinda Wilson.

[Heysaboda]

I may be in the minority, but i think i'd take Surf's Up over wild honey 

that said, Brian + beach boys makes everything better. 

Y'know, that's a really interesting comparison, because in a sense Wild Honey and Surf's Up are like an alpha/omega of the post-Pet Sounds work.  Hey, were those albums even done by the same band?   

Just shows how awesome The Boys were AFTER Pet Sounds.

[southbay]

But man, saying you don't appreciate reading someone else's opinions, calling them ungrateful and telling him not to share them is not respectful in any manner. I do not understand why folks think because they may not use profanity, that their passive-aggressive insults are any less offensive.

i'm not being passive aggressive at all.  I said he was being ungrateful, nothing passive aggressive about that.  Also nothing passive aggressive about not wanting to hear pouting.  I'm being straight forward about this without having to call someone names.  He's free to post whatever he likes, my initial response to him wasn't some long rant, i let it go.  I personally think name-calling is really low, so I try not to do that because I don't know any of you guys.  

There is no difference in offense between calling someone a "name" and telling them their opinion is unwelcome. The type of person who would not agree is someone who wants to be able to say anything they want to others, and not get called on it. That is an Internet phenomenon. Language matters less than intention.

That's fine if that's what you think

In fact, my point was proved by the effect upon IHA of what you said. HE gets to decide the impact of your words, not you. You just want to say otherwise because you want people to like you. I don't, therefore I'm truthful about what I say.

hey, can you guys all take your fight outside?

I'm not fighting, mate. Thanks.

Can you take whatever you want to call this that is distracting from the actual thread outside?

Did you read the part of the conversation that involved Iron Horse-Apples and Runaways? Address that. That was the fight.
I provided a place to find out some of the cool info discussed on this thread. Don't tell me to take anything anywhere. I've been on point in this thread since I joined in.

Hey, Billy, a little help over here?

Billy's a great guy. I'm sure he can see where the problem was.

This thread is for discussing the album, that's all I'm Im asking.  Lets discuss the album , not the language or intentions of other posters.  Do that in pm's.  And yes, I appreciated your posts directing us to the record room. Great stuff over there.

[I. Spaceman]

 And yes, I appreciated your posts directing us to the record room. Great stuff over there.

Cool. Thank you.

[Catbirdman]

Why is it every time I take a day or week off from reading this board that something BIG happens? And what is it with all of you folks who read and post here every blooming day? How in the name of God do you do it? How do you have time to, you know, live your lives and stuff? I will never understand.

Anyway, rant over. I just now listened to these clips and wanted to respond before becoming infected by the backlash and negativity that is inevitably contained in the pages I haven’t read yet (I’m on page 87).

BEAUTIFUL stuff.

Think About The Days: I am shocked, actually, I never expected anything this sensitive, delicate and toned just right. If you think about it, 1985 was the last time that ALL surviving members of the group came together and offered up an original artistic statement of some kind. That’s 26 years ago. This intro to me feels perfectly pitched to open things up after such a long gap. It may not be as compositionally eloquent as “Our Prayer” perhaps (but then, what is?), but I imagine it’s just as effective in its context.

Spring Vacation: LOVE it. It feels like a commercial, with leprechauns splashing around or something, far removed from whatever it advertises, just the echo of a form of something real, but in its wake comes rejuvenation. A real result. Like an “ahhh” after a drink of water. I have no problems with the lyrics. Since their first album on, the Beach Boys have been a billboard for a land that’s “merely” a theme park. The latter-day sum-sum-summer clichés are just a natural extension of that for me, and they work, in the context of these Men/Boys valiantly struggling to reconcile the real with the ideal. Some of my brightest days have been spent at theme parks after all. I love Brian’s swoopy “hallelujah” – some brilliant, goofy phrasing there. I do have to say, though, I HATE the guitar solo. That kind of guitar wankery – that and cheesy sax – those are two things I cannot stomach. But I can forgive. I embrace the positivity. I feel the Love.

[Andrew G. Doe]

What is this "life" thing you speak of ?

[joshferrell]

I just listened to the amazon clips a couple times and was trying to figure out why the production sounds the way it does at first I didn't like the way they are sounding and then it hit me,it seems (IMO) that they are going for an up to date "alternative" college age sound,Aka:Bare naked ladies,High LLamas,Xtc  etc.. which is a good thing that they are aiming it at people who are in their 20's because that's the age group that will carry on their legacy ,especially in the art world...Smart move on their part...I can picture a lot of these songs being played at the local college radio station,it just has that sound that college aged studets like..alternative/modern/artsy but at the same time we know it's the beach boys...

[phirnis]

"The Private Life of Bill and Sue" really does it for me for some reason. Judging from that short snippet, the lyrics seem to be incredibly bland and the overall sound is akin to "South American", one of the most un-Brian songs ever released on a BW album. Still, I'm really looking forward to this. Very catchy! (...and at least they don't sing "From California to Kokomo"...)

[Catbirdman]

"Spring Vacation" seems to borrow a bit of Elton John's "Tiny Dancer".

Ex-CUSE me ? It resembles "TD", even passingly, about as much as "The Star Spangled Banner" sounds like "4.33".

Good one.

Seconded, that was a hilarious response Andrew. Incidentally I think "The Star Spangled Banner" nicks much more from John Lennon's "Two Minutes Silence" than it ever did from "4:33."

[Runaways]

I have a question for Sir AGD,

I know you've been championing from there and back again, does al sound as robotic on the album? or is it just the amazon.com quality.  That has me scratching my head a bit