Brian's September sessions?

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Well, unless it's promo work for an upcoming release that has to be out by a specific date...  

Hmmm, October 4th? Naah, September 24-26 is too close......

"What? Ooh, so it's not October 4th??"

/B

Recording/filming promo video doesn't happen overnight. They might be going to different studios Brian recorded Smile in.  They'd be lucky to film Brian interviews in Sept for Oct PR blitz.  Could be for a video to be included in the box set.  Could be 'in the studio' listening and approving final mixes for the set.

CAP is putting big bucks into this Smile Sessions box.  It's Brian's baby!  

bottom line - Surely it makes perfect sense to postpone a few concerts to make sure this puppy launches properly.

[rogerlancelot]

I think it's to produce a new Spring album.

But now the band formerly known as Spring will now be named Fall Breaks And Into Winter.

[The Heartical Don]

Of course he does not say what studio!

Me thinks it is for a haircut.

You think he'll visit the ultra-cheap hair studio that Denny used to frequent? To get totally bald?

[Iron Horse-Apples]

I think it's a dance studio. 

He's going to start breakdancing during Barbara Ann from now on

[Awesoman]

Why do fans feel there has to be 'closure' to a band's recording career? It doesn't happen to so many other artistic endeavours in other walks of life!

OK, OK, so I'll nail my colours to the mast - I know a lot of people here are into this 'maybe, just maybe, they can make one last, great album...' idea, but I just *can't* warm to it. For me, the best way to listen to the Beach Boys on record is... on their original records, not something new. I think Brian sounds absolutely great with his current band, and you can chalk me up as a SMiLE '04/Lucky Old Sun believer to the max, but as to his appearing with The Beach Boys? That ship has totally sailed - I honestly think it can only disappoint, for various reasons.

1) Most importantly, no Carl, no Dennis... no Beach Boys.

2) Their voices - none of the guys, not just Brian - aren't what they were. While that doesn't matter for some bands - you don't listen to The Pogues, say, for angelic choir-like purity, and never did - with the Beach Boys, that WAS a major part of the appeal.

3) Too much politics, too much history to get over. Another group LP can only be achieved by accommodating everyone's requirements to some extent, which means you're going to end up with a load of lowest-common denominator stuff to keep everyone happy. So there will be 'Beach Cheese' like California Calling off the 85 album or Wipe Out with the Fat Boys so that the band still projects that surf'n'cars image that's so important to Mike; there will be banjo-plastered 'Ecological Cheese' in the vein of Song Of The Whale, or possibly 'Folky Cheese' like the 80s California Dreaming cover to keep Al happy; there'll be some lame piano ballad tossed to Bruce (and I say this as an active FAN of 'Disney Girls' and, at the very least, a working relationship with 'Tears In The Morning')... and then, for Brian, there'll undoubtedly be a track or two which try to approximate the sound of the band's most famous released album, from 1966, by plastering it in plastic-cup-style percussion and bass harmonica (didn't folks 'round here used to call that 'The Wilsoniser'...?) ...only without approaching a fraction of the emotional impact of those '66 cuts. Oh, and of course, there will have to be a track (or maybe two) which use Carl vocals, following the now-accepted precedent set by Ron Nasty's vocals on 'Free As A Bird' and 'Real Love' - even though the remaining unheard Carl vocals are ones he didn't rate while alive and shelved for a good reason. In short, I can almost see the visible fumes rising from this ghastly twist of brown e'en as I type...

4) Why do people think that it's somehow an acceptable substitute to bring in siblings and/or offspring to compensate for the loss of an original band member? I have flat out NEVER understood this, ever since people started saying back in the 80s that it would be 'interesting' to see Liverpool's finest reform with Julian Nasty instead of John (L), or Zeppelin with Jason Bonham instead of John (B). Excuse me for shouting, but THEY ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE - that's how reproduction works. Different genes, different throats, different likes and dislikes, different characters, different upbringings, different everything. The surname (usually) remains the same, but that's IT. You might as well get in the singing plumber for all the actual musical connection their sons have to Carl or Dennis Wilson, and their ability to sing, drum or compose like either of those guys.

Of course, having said (or ranted) all of that, I would of course be in the store to buy any new BB release on the morning it came out... just *in case* it was, against all expectations, good after all...!  

MattB

What he said.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Why do fans feel there has to be 'closure' to a band's recording career? It doesn't happen to so many other artistic endeavours in other walks of life!

OK, OK, so I'll nail my colours to the mast - I know a lot of people here are into this 'maybe, just maybe, they can make one last, great album...' idea, but I just *can't* warm to it. For me, the best way to listen to the Beach Boys on record is... on their original records, not something new. I think Brian sounds absolutely great with his current band, and you can chalk me up as a SMiLE '04/Lucky Old Sun believer to the max, but as to his appearing with The Beach Boys? That ship has totally sailed - I honestly think it can only disappoint, for various reasons.

1) Most importantly, no Carl, no Dennis... no Beach Boys.

2) Their voices - none of the guys, not just Brian - aren't what they were. While that doesn't matter for some bands - you don't listen to The Pogues, say, for angelic choir-like purity, and never did - with the Beach Boys, that WAS a major part of the appeal.

3) Too much politics, too much history to get over. Another group LP can only be achieved by accommodating everyone's requirements to some extent, which means you're going to end up with a load of lowest-common denominator stuff to keep everyone happy. So there will be 'Beach Cheese' like California Calling off the 85 album or Wipe Out with the Fat Boys so that the band still projects that surf'n'cars image that's so important to Mike; there will be banjo-plastered 'Ecological Cheese' in the vein of Song Of The Whale, or possibly 'Folky Cheese' like the 80s California Dreaming cover to keep Al happy; there'll be some lame piano ballad tossed to Bruce (and I say this as an active FAN of 'Disney Girls' and, at the very least, a working relationship with 'Tears In The Morning')... and then, for Brian, there'll undoubtedly be a track or two which try to approximate the sound of the band's most famous released album, from 1966, by plastering it in plastic-cup-style percussion and bass harmonica (didn't folks 'round here used to call that 'The Wilsoniser'...?) ...only without approaching a fraction of the emotional impact of those '66 cuts. Oh, and of course, there will have to be a track (or maybe two) which use Carl vocals, following the now-accepted precedent set by Ron Nasty's vocals on 'Free As A Bird' and 'Real Love' - even though the remaining unheard Carl vocals are ones he didn't rate while alive and shelved for a good reason. In short, I can almost see the visible fumes rising from this ghastly twist of brown e'en as I type...

4) Why do people think that it's somehow an acceptable substitute to bring in siblings and/or offspring to compensate for the loss of an original band member? I have flat out NEVER understood this, ever since people started saying back in the 80s that it would be 'interesting' to see Liverpool's finest reform with Julian Nasty instead of John (L), or Zeppelin with Jason Bonham instead of John (B). Excuse me for shouting, but THEY ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE - that's how reproduction works. Different genes, different throats, different likes and dislikes, different characters, different upbringings, different everything. The surname (usually) remains the same, but that's IT. You might as well get in the singing plumber for all the actual musical connection their sons have to Carl or Dennis Wilson, and their ability to sing, drum or compose like either of those guys.

Of course, having said (or ranted) all of that, I would of course be in the store to buy any new BB release on the morning it came out... just *in case* it was, against all expectations, good after all...!   

MattB

What he said.

Ditto! 

Let us fans raid the vaults and enjoy what we enjoy.  All that stuff is miles better than anything they could do today.  Like "Michael Row Your Boat Ashore" - it didn't merit release in it's day but it's way better than anything they could do now.

[doc smiley]

I personally think that Disney and Brian's management felt that the upcoming Disney CD was either needing one more song ( be it Brian's or Disney's idea) or there was a problem in the vocal mix somewhere on the CD that needing fixing that was earlier missed...

 

[Andrew G. Doe]

I personally think that Disney and Brian's management felt that the upcoming Disney CD was either needing one more song ( be it Brian's or Disney's idea) or there was a problem in the vocal mix somewhere on the CD that needing fixing that was earlier missed...

 

I think... not. 

[Pretty Funky]

I personally think that Disney and Brian's management felt that the upcoming Disney CD was either needing one more song ( be it Brian's or Disney's idea) or there was a problem in the vocal mix somewhere on the CD that needing fixing that was earlier missed...

 

And the only time that could be done is in 3 months? (from the announcement)

[The Heartical Don]

I personally think that Disney and Brian's management felt that the upcoming Disney CD was either needing one more song ( be it Brian's or Disney's idea) or there was a problem in the vocal mix somewhere on the CD that needing fixing that was earlier missed...

 

And the only time that could be done is in 3 months? (from the announcement)

That's what Genevelyn semaphored to him, yes.

[hypehat]

I personally think that Disney and Brian's management felt that the upcoming Disney CD was either needing one more song ( be it Brian's or Disney's idea) or there was a problem in the vocal mix somewhere on the CD that needing fixing that was earlier missed...

 

I think... not. 

It's all finished, right? Disney probably sitting on it until Smile drops.....

[Andrew G. Doe]

I personally think that Disney and Brian's management felt that the upcoming Disney CD was either needing one more song ( be it Brian's or Disney's idea) or there was a problem in the vocal mix somewhere on the CD that needing fixing that was earlier missed...

 

I think... not. 

It's all finished, right? Disney probably sitting on it until Smile drops.....

No big secret, the Disney songs album was mixed, mastered and handed over to WED Corp late March/early April. Out of Brian's hands now.

[The Heartical Don]

I personally think that Disney and Brian's management felt that the upcoming Disney CD was either needing one more song ( be it Brian's or Disney's idea) or there was a problem in the vocal mix somewhere on the CD that needing fixing that was earlier missed...

 

I think... not. 

It's all finished, right? Disney probably sitting on it until Smile drops.....

So I heard. First, SMiLE will drop from all release schedules. And then Disney chimes in with a wonderful substitute.

[Shady]

"now that SMiLE has been shelved, here's something completely different to make you SMiLE. 18 Disney classics"

I'm actually excited for the DIsney album. Hope it comes sooner or later

[Sam_BFC]

While BWRG was being recorded and before its release, there was quite a buzz surrounding it through the grapevine...have any such whispers been heard about ummm BWRD?

It might leak before it is released at this rate. 

[Andrew G. Doe]

While BWRG was being recorded and before its release, there was quite a buzz surrounding it through the grapevine...have any such whispers been heard about ummm BWRD?

It might leak before it is released at this rate. 

Highly unlikely. 

[Pretty Funky]

So another theory for the mix.

Happened to watch a youtube Moody Blues  performance on Leno from 95 to promote a compilation.

Any chance Brian, Mike and co may be doing a Leno slot, possibly the end of September, to promote the Smile Sessions?

[Amy B.]

So another theory for the mix.

Happened to watch a youtube Moody Blues  performance on Leno from 95 to promote a compilation.

Any chance Brian, Mike and co may be doing a Leno slot, possibly the end of September, to promote the Smile Sessions?

I hope not. Brian is often uncomfortable on TV with HIS band. With the BBs, he might be worse. I hope that if they do perform live, it will be in a setting that is comfortable for all.