What "commemorative releases" should we expect for the 50th anniversary?

[Andrew G. Doe]

At $20 for a CD and a tshirt (and a nifty box), that's a steal !

[John Manning]

Sorry folks but that package is pure opportunism - going by that artwork, it's not even a 50th anniversary T ... Probably some left over stock from 2003 when that set was first put out. Great set, but I don't need either a fourth copy or a lame T.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Sorry folks but that package is pure opportunism - going by that artwork, it's not even a 50th anniversary T ... Probably some left over stock from 2003 when that set was first put out. Great set, but I don't need either a fourth copy or a lame T.

Some 'fan' you are ! 

[drbeachboy]

I might have sprung for it had the tee shirt been the 50th Anniversary logo, but not for this shirt. I already have Sounds Of Summer and Sights And Sounds Of Summer. This fan is passing on this first round offering.

[PhilCohen]

Round 2 between Phil and AGD begins....

Not really. I don't engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed adversary.

And to prove my point to perfection...

No, not really. If Capitol proposed a track listing for a 50-track 2-CD hits package, then changed their minds and decided not to issue it, then there would be no harm in Mr.Doe telling us what the track listing would have been.

The words "confidence" and "trustworthy" just aren't in your dictionary, are they ? Suppose, for the sake of argument, that I was privvy to a proposed track-listing for a 50-song/2CD set (which comment, btw, was entirely off the cuff, not that you'll believe me) via someone involved in the project who'd asked me to keep it to myself, and that said notion was subsequently abandoned, or morphed into something else (just as 40 Top 40s did back in 2003). According to Cohen, that the project will now not come to fruition is all the justification and excuse I'd need to break the confidence shown in my ability to keep something to myself. Of course, as any sentient being would appreciate, what would actually happen is that said source would dry up at warp speed and take several more with it. And that, my friends, is why some folk have these sources, and Phil Cohen doesn't. That's it. No more on this topic. Been there, done that, won the battle.

But this time, we're not talking about unreleased material. With or without your cooperation, any of us computer owners with a CD burner and a thorough collection of Beach Boys CD's could create a 50-song collection of Beach Boys hits. You're not exactly dealing from a position of power this time. And I have no doubt that if I look on Amazon.com, that Capitol or one of their licensees, somewhere in the world have already released one or more 2-CD or 3-CD Beach Boys collections. I tend not to hold onto Beach Boys compilations unless they have previously unreleased outtakes or remixes, but I used to have a 2-CD Beach Boys hits collection from Toshiba/EMI called "Twin Best 40". After better sounding CD releases of those songs became available, there was no reason to keep that 2-CD set in my collection.

The 50-song set(even if it ends up being released) will have nothing to interest the avid collector. Its reasons for existence are commercial, not artistic. In short, it's "product", and not worth another jousting match with you.

And really, what difference does it make(to Beach Boys CD collectors) whether they release this hits package or not? With the release of the 2-CD & 5-CD "Smile" boxes,  Mr.Doe has become obsolete.

[John Manning]

... Brief moment of silence before the cantina crowd return to their drinks...

[hypehat]

I'm not this ghost person and I'm just having a laugh. I'm not a troll.

35 posts in 5 days is pretty much the same thing we had from ghost, though to be fair you haven't yet started trying to convince everyone that Brian is better off on hard drugs or that everything Brian ever did is psychedelic.  

Leave the poor bastard alone. All he wants to do is talk about The Beach Boys and you guys are calling him out on something he has absolutely no idea about. I thought this place was friendlier.

[Paulos]

I'm not this ghost person and I'm just having a laugh. I'm not a troll.

35 posts in 5 days is pretty much the same thing we had from ghost, though to be fair you haven't yet started trying to convince everyone that Brian is better off on hard drugs or that everything Brian ever did is psychedelic.  

Leave the poor bastard alone. All he wants to do is talk about The Beach Boys and you guys are calling him out on something he has absolutely no idea about. I thought this place was friendlier.

Whoa their Hypehat, my post wasn't unfriendly! I wasn't accusing him of being the latest incarnation of nobody/so cold i go burr/ghost, I was just saying he has posted quite a lot in a short period since joining which was similar to ghost and then went on to say that he hadn't been posting like ghost - my post even had a smiley on the end to show I was being nice!

In fact reading your post YOU are the one being unfriendly - you called him a poor bastard!  (Smileys added to show that this post is lighthearted and merely the result of a misunderstanding).

[Paulos]

And to get back on topic I'm sure the Sounds Of Summer + T-Shirt box is merely intended to get the ball rolling for the Celebration and we can expect more stuff to be released around summertime.

[Alan Smith]

I've passed on 'Sounds of...' up until now - I cannot resist a "nifty" box; the t-shirt is just the melted cheese on the toast 

[Andrew G. Doe]

But this time, we're not talking about unreleased material. With or without your cooperation, any of us computer owners with a CD burner and a thorough collection of Beach Boys CD's could create a 50-song collection of Beach Boys hits. You're not exactly dealing from a position of power this time. And I have no doubt that if I look on Amazon.com, that Capitol or one of their licensees, somewhere in the world have already released one or more 2-CD or 3-CD Beach Boys collections. I tend not to hold onto Beach Boys compilations unless they have previously unreleased outtakes or remixes, but I used to have a 2-CD Beach Boys hits collection from Toshiba/EMI called "Twin Best 40". After better sounding CD releases of those songs became available, there was no reason to keep that 2-CD set in my collection.

The 50-song set(even if it ends up being released) will have nothing to interest the avid collector. Its reasons for existence are commercial, not artistic. In short, it's "product", and not worth another jousting match with you.

And really, what difference does it make(to Beach Boys CD collectors) whether they release this hits package or not? With the release of the 2-CD & 5-CD "Smile" boxes,  Mr.Doe has become obsolete.

Unquestionably the funniest piece of sh*t I've read on this board for months ! You keep thinkin' Butch, that's what you're good at. 

[John Manning]

Hey Mr Doe, you've already forgotten that you're not dealing from a position of power. Embrace your obsolescence, accept it humbly and let Mr Cohen's ascensdency achieve its pinnacle. Anyone with a CD burner and access to an Iron-on T-shirt transfer can be a Beach Boys Historian now, and you'd be as well to remember that.

Edit: almost forgot:  .

[over and over]

They should put some uncirculating songs on the new box. I read a while back that Brian had done a recording of himself at the piano singing "In the back of my mind" in 1975. This box could be the only chance we have to finally hear it. Alan Boyd is a very cool dude, he gets to hear it whenever he wants.

[Shady]

At $20 for a CD and a tshirt (and a nifty box), that's a steal !

Good god that's an ugly tshirt

I'll stick to my black flag one

[John Manning]

They should put some uncirculating songs on the new box. I read a while back that Brian had done a recording of himself at the piano singing "In the back of my mind" in 1975. This box could be the only chance we have to finally hear it. Alan Boyd is a very cool dude, he gets to hear it whenever he wants.

Boyd is indeed a cool dude – as evidenced by all his good acts to date – and will, I'm sure, do his best to enable us to hear as much (of the best stuff that's not yet circulating, please sir!) as possible

[Andrew G. Doe]

Everyone's assuming Alan will be centrally involved in the C50 reissue program: I sincerely hope this is so, but maybe he got TSS'd out last year and is taking a break (and I wouldn't blame him).

[John Manning]

I'm guessing though that no-one knows the vaults like him (and Mark L). I propose that all shore leave be cancelled until the party's over… 

[hypehat]

I'm not this ghost person and I'm just having a laugh. I'm not a troll.

35 posts in 5 days is pretty much the same thing we had from ghost, though to be fair you haven't yet started trying to convince everyone that Brian is better off on hard drugs or that everything Brian ever did is psychedelic.  

Leave the poor bastard alone. All he wants to do is talk about The Beach Boys and you guys are calling him out on something he has absolutely no idea about. I thought this place was friendlier.

Whoa their Hypehat, my post wasn't unfriendly! I wasn't accusing him of being the latest incarnation of nobody/so cold i go burr/ghost, I was just saying he has posted quite a lot in a short period since joining which was similar to ghost and then went on to say that he hadn't been posting like ghost - my post even had a smiley on the end to show I was being nice!

In fact reading your post YOU are the one being unfriendly - you called him a poor bastard!  (Smileys added to show that this post is lighthearted and merely the result of a misunderstanding).

I was a particularly humourless drunk last night, so this probably explains it. 

[Paulos]

I'm not this ghost person and I'm just having a laugh. I'm not a troll.

35 posts in 5 days is pretty much the same thing we had from ghost, though to be fair you haven't yet started trying to convince everyone that Brian is better off on hard drugs or that everything Brian ever did is psychedelic.  

Leave the poor bastard alone. All he wants to do is talk about The Beach Boys and you guys are calling him out on something he has absolutely no idea about. I thought this place was friendlier.

Whoa their Hypehat, my post wasn't unfriendly! I wasn't accusing him of being the latest incarnation of nobody/so cold i go burr/ghost, I was just saying he has posted quite a lot in a short period since joining which was similar to ghost and then went on to say that he hadn't been posting like ghost - my post even had a smiley on the end to show I was being nice!

In fact reading your post YOU are the one being unfriendly - you called him a poor bastard!  (Smileys added to show that this post is lighthearted and merely the result of a misunderstanding).

I was a particularly humourless drunk last night, so this probably explains it. 

No worries dude, all is as it should be. 

[smile-holland]

At $20 for a CD and a tshirt (and a nifty box), that's a steal !

Good god that's an ugly tshirt

I'll stick to my black flag one

ehm, yeah, I might even buy that one....

But I'm in a good mood today, just having found that reissue boot of the Carnegie 1972 concert.  (plus a few other goodies I never thought I would find in one day... me loves those small record fairs....)

[obscurereference]

What I'd like:
2 CD reissues of every album, containing stereo mixes & a contemporary live concert and lots of rarities.

What I wouldn't like:
- An expensive career spanning box set sprinkled with a few previously unreleased tracks
- Another best of!

[PhilCohen]

It is obvious that whatever clamoring there was for the possible 2012 CD product, was largely confined to forums such as this one, and even this clamoring has mostly quieted down. Certainly, this clamoring was never in any way equivalent to the intense interest which was generated in the months & seasons preceding the release of the "Smile Sessions" product. This now very quiet situation should send a telling message to Capitol.

If Capitol wants to keep consumer interest (in these forthcoming products) alive, then the ball is in Capitol's court.

[drbeachboy]

I have to admit this SOS Tee Shirt box is a pretty anemic way to start off a 50th Anniversary Celebration. Leave it to Capitol and The Beach Boys to f*** up a perfect opportunity to kick off such an important historical musical moment.

[John Manning]

It is obvious that whatever clamoring there was for the possible 2012 CD product, was largely confined to forums such as this one, and even this clamoring has mostly quieted down. Certainly, this clamoring was never in any way equivalent to the intense interest which was generated in the months & seasons preceding the release of the "Smile Sessions" product. This now very quiet situation should send a telling message to Capitol.

If Capitol wants to keep consumer interest (in these forthcoming products) alive, then the ball is in Capitol's court.

Hmmm, how to take "business as usual" and turn it into "Honey, I need to spend some time alone for a while..."!

[Mike's Beard]

It is obvious that whatever clamoring there was for the possible 2012 CD product, was largely confined to forums such as this one, and even this clamoring has mostly quieted down. Certainly, this clamoring was never in any way equivalent to the intense interest which was generated in the months & seasons preceding the release of the "Smile Sessions" product. This now very quiet situation should send a telling message to Capitol.

If Capitol wants to keep consumer interest (in these forthcoming products) alive, then the ball is in Capitol's court.

This post is just begging for an AGD reply.