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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Heard Another One on Sirrius XM Deep Tracks... on: May 20, 2018, 07:55:44 PM
Once again, I didn't actually hear it...but this afternoon on Deep Tracks, Earl Bailey read off some tunes he'd just played - including "Beach Boy Dennis Wilson, from his solo album Pacific Ocean Blue - 'Rainbows'". It was part of some rainbow-themed string of songs...I think including something by Richie Blackmore's Rainbow. Damn, that would have been great to hear, unexpectedly!  
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Latest Issue of Guitar Player... on: May 08, 2018, 08:30:37 PM
...has an interview with Mr. Scott Totten - worth checking out!
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: We Got Love . . . on: April 24, 2018, 03:58:42 PM
For me, the live version blows this away.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: That Beach Boys song going through your head on: March 31, 2018, 07:46:37 AM
I just made a mix CD of some of the highlights from MIC - Meant For You (long version), We're Together Again, Sail Plane Song (I substituted the mix from EH Soundtrack), Soulful Old Man Sunshine, Where Is She?, (Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again, Barnyard Blues, Guess I'm Dumb (I substituted the single version from a Glen Campbell UK double-CD import called The Capitol Years), Sherry She Needs Me, California Feelin' (the full band version), Soul Searchin', and You're Still A Mystery.

And guess what - they're ALL going through my head! Not at the exact same time, fortunately, but a few bars of one, followed by a few bars of another - etc, etc. Not a bad song syndrome to have!
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New bass player with Mike & Bruce on: March 25, 2018, 02:49:01 PM
I'm not a fan of the "dancing" Four Seasons either. Give me old time players any day over the younger dancer/singer types.

Second that.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Meant For You a capella/vocal transcription on: March 24, 2018, 07:34:03 AM
Dear JK,

Thanks so much for your offer! In the meantime I figured out most of the voices I think and made my own arrangement of it.

greetings,

Yorick

So...how many voices are on that recording?

Let me check that online sessionography.... oh wait...   angel

Reason I ask, is because a few years back I got to hear the session tape as part of my ongoing sessionography research. My notes and memory indicate no evidence of Dennis on the session tape, although he's listed on the AFM sheet (track and vocals for this were cut at the same time - it's Brian on organ, with the piano added by Bruce). BTW, this upcoming April 1st marks the 50th anniversary of this song hitting tape!
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Meant For You a capella/vocal transcription on: March 19, 2018, 04:22:28 PM
Dear JK,

Thanks so much for your offer! In the meantime I figured out most of the voices I think and made my own arrangement of it.

greetings,

Yorick

So...how many voices are on that recording?
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: I got a friend on: March 11, 2018, 08:13:45 AM
Who were the musicians on the unreleased studio backing track of "I've Got a Friend?" And do the live versions closely mirror the studio rendition? And just to clarify--any backing / harmony vocals on the studio take--or is it completely instrumental? Any unreleased BB music from the '60s and '70s fascinates me exponentially.

I've not heard the studio backing track (at least I don't think I have - does it circulate?).
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: I got a friend on: March 10, 2018, 08:22:17 AM
Any info on this song live from 72?


Written by Dennis. A finished studio backing track is in the vaults but no vocal.

And a couple of live versions in lo-fi quality, with vocal.

Oh, and I believe the actual title is "I've Got A Friend" - but who knows, since it's not actually been released!
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: I got a friend on: March 08, 2018, 04:27:31 PM
Any info on this song live from 72?


Written by Dennis. A finished studio backing track is in the vaults but no vocal.

And a couple of live versions in lo-fi quality, with vocal.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How did people get the Smile tapes back in the day for bootlegs? on: March 07, 2018, 07:58:32 PM
Was there not something about Dennis Wilson giving someone a tape of SMiLE stuff.  Diane Rovell was also mentioned I'm sure.

Actually, I reat that Mike gave Preiss a cassette...but Dennis is on record saying he found the "Fire" tapes.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al Jardine - The Unsung Hero of BASS GUITAR on: March 01, 2018, 03:29:12 AM
Cool thread! Thanks, everybody. Wiki lists Brian as bass & Al as rhythm guitar in DWB. But yrplace says Al, in fact, played bass which means Brian played rhythm guitar. Interesting. 3D
Brian played piano on DWB (definitely not rhythm guitar).

Yeah - Carl played the rhythm guitar on the "DWB" basic track. The lead guitar was overdubbed - possibly by David Marks, according to him - even though he was officially out of the band by then (this was discussed on an earlier thread).



But what would be the need to have David play the lead on DWB? Was Carl on the road during that time?

Who knows - not likely that reason, though, as Dave recalls Brian producing the guitar overdub session - meaning, if Carl was on the road with the band, they would have only been a four-piece...so, not likely.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al Jardine - The Unsung Hero of BASS GUITAR on: February 25, 2018, 08:40:52 AM
Brian played piano on DWB (definitely not rhythm guitar).

Yeah - Carl played the rhythm guitar on the "DWB" basic track. The lead guitar was overdubbed - possibly by David Marks, according to him - even though he was officially out of the band by then (this was discussed on an earlier thread).
Thanks, Mr. Stebbins & Mr. Slowinski. This line-up in DWB is revelation to this fan. It brings new colors to the song, if it makes sense (usually, who plays what is crucial to hear song this or that way imo).

Once Al rejoined the band, the typical studio lineup for basic tracks (not always, but typically) had Brian on piano, Al on bass, Dennis on drums, David on rhythm guitar (until he left), and Carl on lead guitar (until David left).  Once Dave left, Carl began playing rhythm guitar on the basic, and overdubbing the lead guitar. Not 100% of the time, but like I said this was pretty typical.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dreamer: The Making Of Dennis Wilson's \ on: February 24, 2018, 10:56:58 AM
If you don't have it - GET IT, GET IT, GET IT!  Well worth the money to buy and the time to read! 
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al Jardine - The Unsung Hero of BASS GUITAR on: February 24, 2018, 09:26:24 AM
Cool thread! Thanks, everybody. Wiki lists Brian as bass & Al as rhythm guitar in DWB. But yrplace says Al, in fact, played bass which means Brian played rhythm guitar. Interesting. 3D
Brian played piano on DWB (definitely not rhythm guitar).

Yeah - Carl played the rhythm guitar on the "DWB" basic track. The lead guitar was overdubbed - possibly by David Marks, according to him - even though he was officially out of the band by then (this was discussed on an earlier thread).
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al Jardine - The Unsung Hero of BASS GUITAR on: February 22, 2018, 04:42:05 PM
I saw Al playing bass with the BBs on at least one number in Dec. 1984.

Yeah, I saw him play bass on "Fun Fun Fun" that August (maybe "Babara Ann" too...I know he played the bass on that one at the July 5th '81 Long Island show...)
I've seen Al play piano, twice - both times on "Be True To Your School" (in '82 and '84), and electronic drums on that same song (meaning, "Be True To Your School"...not "That Same Song") in '86. Talented guy - especially when it comes to that song! Smiley
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: January 28, 2018, 08:22:36 PM
Dang! Righteous props.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: January 28, 2018, 12:01:34 PM
For what it's worth - info from the "Surf's Up" 1971 AFM contract:

Piano: Mike Rubini
Guitar or bass: Bill Pitman
Bass: Lyle Ritz
Drums: Frank Capp
Percussion: Gene Estes
Woodwinds: Plas Johnson, Jay Migliori, Allan Beutler
Trumpet: Roy Caton
Tuben horn and/or French horn: David Duke
French horns: Alan Robinson and Gale Robinson

Recorded at Sunset Sound Recorders, Hollywood, Friday June 18, 1971, 10:00am-5:00pm
Artist is listed as "The Beach Boys", employer name has "Brother Records" crossed off & "Marilyn Wilson" written in.
Dianne Rovell is the contractor...she and "leader" Mike Rubini stayed til 5:00pm, the others only until 1:30.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's Favourite Instruments on: January 28, 2018, 08:22:47 AM
Not sure where the notion of the ARP Odyssey on Love You is from...can any vintage keyboard nerd (meant affectionately) tell us for sure? All the track sheet documentation seems to indicate only mini-Moog and ARP String Ensemble were used on that one (and on Big Ones as well)...

I should qualify my statement above...the Love You track sheets that include an ARP among the instruments listed are "Honkin' Down The Highway", "Solar System" and "The Night Was So Young" - in all three cases, the annotation is for "string ensemble" or some variation in spelling of the same, but those are obvious references to the ARP instrument of that name. There is, however, one song from that album where the track sheet annotation actually reads "Arp" - and that is "Ding Dang", recorded three or four years prior to the album's release, in 1973 or 1974. The ARP instrument on THAT song could very well be the Odyssey, or perhaps the Pro Soloist...either way, I believe it's responsible for the "horn" sound on that song.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's Favourite Instruments on: January 28, 2018, 07:50:13 AM
Not sure where the notion of the ARP Odyssey on Love You is from...can any vintage keyboard nerd (meant affectionately) tell us for sure? All the track sheet documentation seems to indicate only mini-Moog and ARP String Ensemble were used on that one (and on Big Ones as well)...

Sorry I might be completely wrong on that, Iíve just seen pictures of Brian playing one and assumed it was Love You.

If it's the one where he's beardless...then that's actually from the Fort Dodge, Iowa sessions with David Sandler in '73.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's Favourite Instruments on: January 26, 2018, 09:34:49 PM
Not sure where the notion of the ARP Odyssey on Love You is from...can any vintage keyboard nerd (meant affectionately) tell us for sure? All the track sheet documentation seems to indicate only mini-Moog and ARP String Ensemble were used on that one (and on Big Ones as well)...
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sessions 64' EP on: January 21, 2018, 11:56:33 AM
Not sure who played on The Timers' version of "No Go Showboart", but I can tell  you it was recorded at RCA on October 11, 1963 (prior to the release of The Beach Boys' version on Little Deuce Coupe), and that Brian contributed backing vocals.

The track for what became The Castell's version of "I Do" was cut at RCA on November 7, 1963, with Milt Norman, Bill Pitman, and Tommy Tedesco on guitars, Ray Pohlman on Fender bass, Howard Roberts on 6-string Dano bass, Jimmy Bond on upright bass, Leon Russell and Al de Lory on keyboards, Hal Blaine on drums, Frank Capp on percussion, Steve Douglas and Plas Johnson on tenor sax, and Jay Migliori on bari sax.

The track for "He's A Doll" was cut at Gold Star on February 17, 1964, with Bill Pitman, Joe Gibbons, and Ervan "Bud" Coleman on guitars, Ray Pohlman on Fender bass, Jimmy Bond on upright bass, Leon Russell, Al de Lory, and Larry Knechtel on keyboards, Hal Blaine on drums, Gene Estes on percussion, Steve Douglas and Plas Johnson on tenor sax, and Jay Migliori on bari sax.

Ervan "Bud" Coleman wrote "Tijuana Taxi" for Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass. Plas Johnson's most famous recording is probably the Henry Mancini-composed "Pink Panther" theme.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl and Kowalski on: January 18, 2018, 05:34:08 PM

I'm loathe to speculate too much or get too personal, but when you *watch* footage of him drumming, he seems *VERY* stiff. I tend to wonder if he actually had some sort of physical ailment (back problems, shoulder/elbow problems, etc.) that was causing some of this.


I was about four rows from the (revolving) stage at a 1991 concert. I was really impressed by Mike K's drumming (my impression may have been boosted by being THAT close to the band for the first time in my life). But immediately afterwards, as the crowd was leaving, I spied Mr. K. heading into a little side room to receive a massage from a professional therapist. So I would tend to believe your theory!
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl and Kowalski on: January 18, 2018, 05:30:42 PM
And why were Ed and Billy let go ?


I think in at least one case it was at least mutual, if not entirely the individual's choice, just based on what I've read. I can't say for certain, but I get the impression that the Mike/Al divide that had developed may have led one or both to decide it was time to go. And I don't think it was a surprise, as I recall reading in ESQ the year before that at least one longtime touring member would likely be retiring in the near future.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Instrument Challenge on: January 18, 2018, 04:17:58 AM
It's also sometimes referred to as the "mouth organ". Strangely, the back cover of Meet The Beatls names both the "harmonica" and the "mouth organ" among instruments played by the Fab Four...although they're the same thing (as far as I know)!
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