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26  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Terry Melcher on: August 02, 2019, 08:29:56 AM
I saw someone on here saying he produced Getcha Back...but i thought he just co-wrote it and Levine produced the whole album? Did he actually produce it or did someone just mis-speak on here? Wikipedia says Levine produced the song...could be wrong tho

I think they were arguing that he co-produced the song because of the way he helped with the vocals and getting the falsetto part out of Brian, etc.

That was me, and I guess it was my mistake… I for some reason I had thought that Terry produced that song in addition to cowriting it, but it appears I was wrong. But as you mentioned, it's possible there was some contribution by Terry during the recording of it from a production standpoint. At least that would be my guess.

As I mentioned upthread, Steve Levine said Terry was a virtual co-producer on "Getcha Back" by virture of getting that amazing falsetto performance out of Brian, who was initially very reluctant to do it.
27  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: July 31, 2019, 11:57:00 AM
It's interesting to note when the band did or didn't use the touring band members in the studio. There were obviously a lot of variables at play, including availability and what type of sound they were looking for.

But it's interesting that, for instance, Bobby Figueroa didn't drum on any KTSA sessions while they turned to three other session drummers.



Yeah...Bobby and Eddie are both all over L.A., and Carli Munoz, Sterling Smith, and Mike Meros make contributions, too (as does Joe Chemay, who would play bass for them live later on). For KTSA, though, Eddie was only present on that one date, and that's just because his composition "Surfer Suzie" was tracked at the same session. Mike Meros, however, was present for many of those sessions, including the July dates with Wrecking Crew legends Blaine, Pohlman, and Randi. Carli Munoz was brought in for one overdub late in the sessions, though - interesting, because he'd left the road band by that point.
28  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: July 31, 2019, 10:40:17 AM
How many sessions did Ricky play on after departing in 1974? Or was that a one off?

The way the KTSA album sessions worked, a group of musicians were employed for a run of several dates, after which other musicians might take over for the next stretch, and so on. This was probably due to availability (meaning, they were likely employed for, say, two weeks, after which they were unavailable due to other bookings, and so someone else had to be hired). Aside from the first two days at Western in July (when Hal Blaine drummed), the drum chair was occupied first by Gary Mallaber, then Ricky, and then finally Scott Mathews. As mentioned, Dennis was also there for Mallaber's first day (at Western), and returned later on for that abortive attempt at "Goin' To The Beach" (at Rumbo).

Bruce had previously used Ricky as drummer on sessions for David Cassidy, and may have hired him for KTSA at Carl's suggestion.
29  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: July 31, 2019, 10:33:26 AM
I vaguely recall somebody on here(either c-man or Stebbins?) several years ago posting that there is evidence that Dennis actually isn't on Johnny B Goode after all. Does anybody remember that? Or maybe it was Andrew Doe that said it.

That was me, and it was actually "Endless Harmony" I was talking about. It appears that one AFM contract was filed for both "Endless Harmony" and "Goin' To The Beach". Both songs were worked on at Al's studio, but Dennis wasn't present for that. According to eyewitness reports, he WAS, however, present for a subsequent Rumbo overdub session for "Goin' To The Beach", which is why his name is on that contract. It seems the intent was for him to add a drum track, perhaps replacing Scott Mathews' original drums. According to reports, Dennis sat down at the kit, "made some noise", and was dismissed. Christine McVie reportedly accompanied him to this session. No report on her reaction.

Interesting. Thanks for all your hard work in figuring this stuff out, c-man. I really can't wait for that sessionography.

So what you're saying is that it seems that "Endless Harmony" does not have Denny on drums on it at all? If so, who is the drummer on that song?

It's interesting how if that's the case, it will change how I envision the song in my head, since after previously hearing it was Denny playing on EH, I'd then always visually pictured Denny playing on the EH as his last session for a BBs-penned song, but now that seems to not be the case.  What would be the last non-cover, BBs-penned song that Denny played on then?

Scott Mathews did the final drum track on "Endless Harmony". The last non-cover, BBs-penned song that Denny played on would seem to be "Stevie" (Dec 1980-Jan 1981).

Thanks, c-man. Wow. All the more reason why that song really needs to be properly released, apart from it being one of the best songs from this era, and the only Denny-produced or Denny-co-produced (is that correct?) Brian original. The Stevie drum fills have got a POB-sounding production touch.

Yes, Dennis co-produced "Stevie" with his friend Garby Leon.
30  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: July 31, 2019, 10:21:01 AM
I vaguely recall somebody on here(either c-man or Stebbins?) several years ago posting that there is evidence that Dennis actually isn't on Johnny B Goode after all. Does anybody remember that? Or maybe it was Andrew Doe that said it.

That was me, and it was actually "Endless Harmony" I was talking about. It appears that one AFM contract was filed for both "Endless Harmony" and "Goin' To The Beach". Both songs were worked on at Al's studio, but Dennis wasn't present for that. According to eyewitness reports, he WAS, however, present for a subsequent Rumbo overdub session for "Goin' To The Beach", which is why his name is on that contract. It seems the intent was for him to add a drum track, perhaps replacing Scott Mathews' original drums. According to reports, Dennis sat down at the kit, "made some noise", and was dismissed. Christine McVie reportedly accompanied him to this session. No report on her reaction.

Interesting. Thanks for all your hard work in figuring this stuff out, c-man. I really can't wait for that sessionography.

So what you're saying is that it seems that "Endless Harmony" does not have Denny on drums on it at all? If so, who is the drummer on that song?

It's interesting how if that's the case, it will change how I envision the song in my head, since after previously hearing it was Denny playing on EH, I'd then always visually pictured Denny playing on the EH as his last session for a BBs-penned song, but now that seems to not be the case.  What would be the last non-cover, BBs-penned song that Denny played on then?

Scott Mathews did the final drum track on "Endless Harmony". The last non-cover, BBs-penned song that Denny played on would seem to be "Stevie" (Dec 1980-Jan 1981).
31  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: July 31, 2019, 08:08:05 AM
Anyways, anybody in the know *cough* c-man *cough* aware of whether Brian was heavily involved in this one or not? I would be surprised to learn if he wasn't. Actually in general I kinda wonder about Brian's participation on KTSA. He's obviously much more audible then he was on L.A. (Light Album) but I wonder if he was involved much instrumentally or vocally especially on the songs he didn't write.

Yes, and yes.
If it was Brian's idea to record a cover, then he was heavily involved instrumentally and vocally, and probably arrangement-wise: besides "Da Do Ron Ron", examples from those sessions are "School Days", "Little Girl", "Jamaica Farewell", "Stranded In The Jungle" (Brian actually produced the basic tracks for those four, under Bruce's "supervision", a few months before the bulk of the sessions started), "Johnny B. Goode", and "Smokey Places". Two that he apparently WASN'T involved with (at least instrumentally) were "I'll Always Love You" and the Bruce-driven re-recording of "Johnny B. Goode" two weeks after the Brian-driven original.


Holy sh!t! There were two versions of Johnny B. Goode? I want to hear both of them. One of those had Dennis on drums and was probably the last time Dennis played on a Beach Boys session. I think his other contribution was some percussion on Endless Harmony.
Do you know who played on the two JBG's, c-man? And in case you've heard them, could you describe what they sound like?


Johnny # 1:
Brian, Bruce, Mike Meros (keyboards), Carl (guitar), Dennis (drums), Gary Mallaber (drums), Bill House (guitar), Jerry Scheff (bass)

Johnny # 2:
John Hobbs (keyboards), Steve Ross (guitars), Bill House (guitar), Bryan Garofalo (bass), Ricky Fataar (drums)

I have not heard either version.
32  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Get Well Brian on: July 31, 2019, 07:56:25 AM
I think he looks great here, for a 77 year old guy that's been through the ringer. There's a certain look in his eyes that I haven't seen in a while - almost a twinkle. Nice to see.
33  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: July 31, 2019, 07:53:43 AM
I vaguely recall somebody on here(either c-man or Stebbins?) several years ago posting that there is evidence that Dennis actually isn't on Johnny B Goode after all. Does anybody remember that? Or maybe it was Andrew Doe that said it.

That was me, and it was actually "Endless Harmony" I was talking about. It appears that one AFM contract was filed for both "Endless Harmony" and "Goin' To The Beach". Both songs were worked on at Al's studio, but Dennis wasn't present for that. According to eyewitness reports, he WAS, however, present for a subsequent Rumbo overdub session for "Goin' To The Beach", which is why his name is on that contract. It seems the intent was for him to add a drum track, perhaps replacing Scott Mathews' original drums. According to reports, Dennis sat down at the kit, "made some noise", and was dismissed. Christine McVie reportedly accompanied him to this session. No report on her reaction.
34  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: July 30, 2019, 11:58:20 PM
Da Doo Ron Ron:

Brian (piano), Bruce (Fender Rhodes), Mike Meros (piano & Moog), Ed Carter (guitar), Bill House (guitar), Jerry Scheff (bass), Gary Mallaber (drums)
Vocals were added later at Al's Big Sur ranch studio, with Carl on lead of course, and presumably Brian, Carl, Mike, Al, and Bruce on backgrounds.

35  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Quentin Tarantino Prepping New Movie Tackling Manson Murders on: July 29, 2019, 09:54:06 AM

...so I questioned why the Manson/Tate elements were so prominently used to advertise the film.


Why? 'Cause that's how Hollyweird promotion works...whatever it takes to get tickets sold, exploit the hell out of that in the trailer. That's why catchy songs that don't appear at all in the actual features are sometimes used in the trailers, and why people with big names but relatively very small parts are often featured prominently in the promos. There's been a fair amount of interest in Manson and Tate all along, resurging again in the last few years, so of course that theme will get exploited.
36  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Live Action Photos in Summer 2019 ESQ on: July 25, 2019, 11:56:49 PM
I took the pictures at the University Of Georgia on page 40. Guess there are no questions for me!

Um, sure!  Which song is Toni playing the Fender Rhodes on? (page 42)
37  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Terry Melcher on: July 25, 2019, 12:25:05 PM
Just wanted to say that the comments regarding the relative "blandness" of Terry's singing voice were only made in the context of comparison to Carl's obviously stellar singing voice, and pertain to which of the two might be singing those lines in "SNJ".  Smiley
38  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Terry Melcher on: July 25, 2019, 11:41:12 AM
Just to add a bit to GF's post directly above - even prior to Melcher's production of "California Dreamin'" for The Boys, he was partly responsible for getting them back on the airwaves and on MTV a year earlier, with "Getcha Back". Although officially produced by Steve Levine, Terry cowrote the song, and according to Levine, was a kind of unofficial producer. For one thing, he prodded Brian into singing that fantastic falsetto line, when probably nobody else could have.
39  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Terry Melcher on: July 25, 2019, 10:14:26 AM
Thanks, Jude. Nice to see this included:

And Special Thanks to the Beach Boys Band for Still Cruisin’ with us after all these years – Ed Carter, Bass/Vocals; Mike Kowalski, Drums; Billy Hinsche, Piano/Vocals; Michael Meros, Keyboards/Organ; Jeff Foskett, Guitar/Vocals; Matthew Jardine, Percussion/Vocals.
40  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Terry Melcher on: July 25, 2019, 08:58:55 AM
Discussion of the 1989 tracks also reminds how weirdly minimal and selective the sleeve credits on the "Still Crusin'" album are. It's almost like someone at the last second called around to the guys in the band and snagged the credits they could, but didn't get much, and what they got was still vastly incomplete.

1. STILL CRUISIN’
(Melcher/Love)
Copyright © 1989 by Daywin Music, Inc. administered by Careers Music, Inc./ Clairoudient Music Corporation (BMI) All Rights Reserved. Used by Permission.
Produced by Terry Melcher
Engineered and Mixed by Keith Wechsler
Recorded at The Red Barn, Big Sur, CA;
4th Street Recording, Santa Monica, CA
From “Lethal Weapon 2”

2. SOMEWHERE NEAR JAPAN
(Phillips/Melcher/Love/Johnston)
Copyright © 1989 by Phillips-Tucker Music / Daywin Music, Inc. administered by Careers Music, Inc./ Clairoudient Music Corporation / Bruce Johnston Music (BMI) All Rights Reserved. Used by Permission.
Produced by Terry Melcher
Engineered and Mixed by Keith Wechsler
Recorded at The Red Barn, Big Sur, CA;
4th Street Recording, Santa Monica, CA

3. ISLAND GIRL (I’m Gonna Make Her Mine)
(Alan Jardine)
Copyright © by Jardine Music (BMI) All Rights Reserved. Used by Permission.
Produced by Alan Jardine, A Red Barn Production
Engineers: Billy Moss, Don Weiss
Recorded at The Red Barn, Big Sur, CA; Vintage Records
Mixed at Capitol Records
With Special Thanks to Leslie Ann Jones and the E-MERGEN-C
Vocals by Carl Wilson, Alan Jardine, Mike Love
Synth programming by James Grunke
Additional Background Vocals: Matt Jardine, Adam Jardine, Jeff Foskett


4. IN MY CAR
(Wilson/Landy/Morgan)
Copyright © 1989 by Beach Bum Music / Beachhead Music, Inc. (BMI/ASCAP) All Rights Reserved. Used by Permission.
Produced by Brian Wilson and Eugene E. Landy (for “Brains And Genius”)
Mixed by Brian Wilson and Mark Linett
All Keyboards and Synthesizers played by Brian Wilson
Music and Vocal Arrangements by Brian Wilson
Programming and Computers by Michael Bernard
Guitar: Joseph Brasler
Drums: Vinnie Colautia

Recorded and Mixed at Sunset Sound in Los Angeles
Engineered by Mark Linett
Production Coordination by Andrew Dean
Assistant to Brian Wilson: Kevin S. Leslie
Brian Wilson plays Young Chang Pianos

5. KOKOMO
(Phillips/Love/Melcher/McKenzie)
Copyright © 1988 by Walt Disney Music Company / Wonderland Music Company, Inc. / Honest John Music / Clairoudient Music Corporation / Daywin Music, Inc. / Phillips-Tucker Music (ASCAP/BMI) All rights administered by Walt Disney Music Company and Wonderland Music Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Used by Permission.
Produced by Terry Melcher
Engineered and Mixed by Keith Wechsler
Recorded at 4th Street Recording, Santa Monica, CA
Mastered at Precision Lacquer by Stephen Marcussen
From “Cocktail”

6. WIPE OUT*
(The Surfaris)
Copyright © 1963, 1987 by Miraleste Music Co. / Robin Hood Music Co. (BMI) All Rights Reserved. Used by Permission.
Produced by Albert Cabrera and Tony Moran (Little Rascals)
In association with The Beach Boys
Co-Produced by Darren Robinson and Damon Wimbley
(With The Fat Boys)

7. MAKE IT BIG
(Melcher/House/Love)
Copyright © 1989 by Daywin Music, Inc. administered by Careers Music, Inc./ Clairoudient Music Corporation (BMI) All Rights Reserved. Used by Permission.
Produced by Terry Melcher
Engineered and Mixed by Keith Wechsler
Acoustic Guitar: Carl Wilson, Al Jardine
Recorded at The Red Barn, Big Sur, CA;
4th Street Recording, Santa Monica, CA
From “Troop Beverly Hills”

And then the only other recording data we get is this at the end:

Additional Background Vocals: Matt Jardine, Adam Jardine, Suzie Renner, Jeff Foskett

Recorded at 4th Street Recording, Santa Monica, CA
Sound Solutions, Santa Monica, CA
Soundworks, New York, NY
The Red Barn, Big Sur, CA
Ryan Recording, Carmel, CA

So, out of the seven non-oldie songs on the album, the only vocal or instrumental credits we got were lead and backing vocal credits on "Island Girl" (though incomplete in not mentioning that Brian is also on backing vocals on that one), musician credits on "In My Car" (but ironically *no* credits for Carl and Al adding lead vocals), and *only* acoustic guitar credits for Carl and Al on "Make It Big" (wtf?), and then tagged on "Additional Background Vocal" credits not pertaining to any specific song.

Wow, Jude, that's fantastic! As incomplete as the credits on your copy of Still Cruisin' are, they are VASTLY more complete than those on my copies! I bought the CD upon release and the LP a very short time later (days or weeks)...my CD contains only the one thin insert with pleasant graphics and the barest of composition and production credits. The LP contains even less, with a generic white paper inner sleeve. Call yourself fortunate to have what you have!
41  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Terry Melcher on: July 25, 2019, 01:48:35 AM
Those two lines on SNJ absolutely sound like Carl. It's possible Terry is the second voice on those lines, but I'm having a hard time believing that's not Carl.

I might be going too far down the hypothetical road here, but I wonder how history would have changed if Terry, instead of Bruce, joined the band in 1965. I've personally never felt like Bruce's voice is very Beach Boy-y. It always stands out in a somewhat jarring way to me as part of the blend. Terry might not be as good of a singer, but I feel like his voice would have blended less noticeably.

I know Bruce originally was added to replace Brian's falsetto, but that never really came to fruition. It also seems as though Terry was busier than Bruce in those years, so it's all moot anyway.

Bruce was added to replace Brian's falsetto onstage, which DID come to fruition, at least on some songs (Al continued to sing the falsetto line on some songs, Bruce on others).  But Bruce DID sing the falsetto part on the opening cut of his very first album with the Beach Boys.  Smiley
42  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Terry Melcher on: July 25, 2019, 01:46:06 AM
I hear Terry's voice in the choruses of "Strange Things Happen". He's credited with vocals on the album, so I'd say that's one that he definitely sang on. Maybe "Hot Fun", too.

I think the band, via sleeve credits and some interviews, have indicated Melcher sings some backing vocals on some stuff. There are a ton of non-BBs on backing vocals on tracks here and there. Foskett, Baker, Matt Jardine, and going farther back there's Becher, Toni Tenille, and a bunch of others.

But non-members singing full lead vocal lines is much rarer, and there's also some scattered precedents where the band deleted non-band member lead parts and replaced them with BB lead lines.


What does Toni sing on?

"Everyone's In Love With You".  Also, it sounds like her on "Cuddle Up".
43  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Terry Melcher on: July 24, 2019, 08:54:56 AM
I forgot in my earlier post describing the tre movie "Charlie Says"  that the composer credit for the music heard in the soundtrack is.....Andy Paley

I hear Terry's voice in the choruses of "Strange Things Happen". He's credited with vocals on the album, so I'd say that's one that he definitely sang on. Maybe "Hot Fun", too.
44  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Terry Melcher on: July 22, 2019, 10:46:17 PM
You forgot to mention that he not only cowrote "Kokomo", but he also produced it - and yes, he did also produce those Still Cruisin' cuts you mentioned.

Terry also had a connection to Dennis Wilson - the two of them were part of a fairly well-known L.A. group called The Golden Penetrators - but alas, that was a competely non-musical group. Smiley

He also had an unfortunate connection to Manson, by way of his connection to Dennis...
45  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Live Action Photos in Summer 2019 ESQ on: July 22, 2019, 09:51:55 AM

Yeah...damn, what's Dennis holding there? Almost looks like a Fourth of July firework - a Roman Candle! But the glare on Mike's tambourine is similar, so maybe it's a tambourine...

A beer (or soda pop) can would make sense...I wouldn't think it would give off that kind of a spark shower, but I suppose it depends on the lighting, exposure, etc.


Probably not a tambourine, 'cause you can see Dennis' fingers. If it was a tambourine parts of the fingers would be covered by it (compare with Mike's fingers in the picture). Whatever it is Dennis holds, it is more like a can in that he fully embraces the object with his hands.
Maybe a couple of Roman Candle's...?


A beer (or soda pop) can would make sense...I wouldn't think it would give off that kind of a spark shower, but I suppose it depends on the lighting, exposure, etc.
46  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Live Action Photos in Summer 2019 ESQ on: July 22, 2019, 09:51:27 AM

Yeah...damn, what's Dennis holding there? Almost looks like a Fourth of July firework - a Roman Candle! But the glare on Mike's tambourine is similar, so maybe it's a tambourine...

A beer (or soda pop) can would make sense...I wouldn't think it would give off that kind of a spark shower, but I suppose it depends on the lighting, exposure, etc.


Probably not a tambourine, 'cause you can see Dennis' fingers. If it was a tambourine parts of the fingers would be covered by it (compare with Mike's fingers in the picture). Whatever it is Dennis holds, it is more like a can in that he fully embraces the object with his hands.
Maybe a couple of Roman Candle's...?
47  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike The Melody Maker on: July 19, 2019, 09:24:37 AM
Regarding Love/Melcher compositions like Getcha Back, Still Cruisin and Rock and Roll To The Rescue is it safe to say Terry wrote most of the music or was it more of a 50/50 thing?

I remember Terry saying in an interview (with Beach Boys Australia, I believe) something that writing with Mike was a bit like a karate match - which I took to mean there was a lot of back-and-forth, and sometimes sparring.
48  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike The Melody Maker on: July 18, 2019, 02:36:42 PM
I don't know who wrote it, but I  consider the line "I don't know where, but she sends me there" to be one of the greatest song lyrics ever written. It's so simple and to the point. It's slightly sappy, but in a romantic way. And it's ever so slightly psychedelic, and esoteric.

Agree wholeheartedly.
49  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike The Melody Maker on: July 18, 2019, 01:44:00 PM
When the band really, *really* needed new original material at various points in their history, where was Mike's songwriting prowess to offer the group something they needed? When the labels were demanding new music, if songwriting were that simple of a process to sketch out a few melodies and chords here and there, why wasn't it done to any degree of success or even to produce a commercially viable original song when the labels wanted one? The biggest success the band had up to 2012 was the song Kokomo that was not original and which had 4 co-writers (for which Mike takes more credit than what he actually did for that song).



Not debating the first part of your post - I wouldn't ever claim that Mike has been a prolific melody-maker, and by his own admission his main conbtributions have been adding lyrics and sometimes bass vocal hooks to songs began by others - but for songs credited solely to him, like for instance "Big Sur", "Goin' To The Beach" and "Sumahama" - they certainly could have come into being in the above manner (Mike had the melody and lyrics, and probably simple three-note chord progressions to go behind them, after which a skilled instrumentalist fashioned the recorded arrangement). However, I do debate your statement that Mike takes more credit on the Beach Boys' version of "Kokomo" than what he deserves - not only did he come up with the "Aruba, Jamaica" hook (the one "earworm" part of the song that people always seem to sing along with), but also the lyrics for the second verse. I would definitely say that's worthy of one-fourth the songwriting credits, same as Terry got for composing the bit that Carl sings, and that Scott McKenzie got for whatever his contribution was.

On "Wouldn't It Be Nice", however, it's a different story - which is why I credit it thusly on my website: 
Music - Brian Wilson / Words - Tony Asher, title by Brian Wilson / Additional lyrics - Mike Love


Agreed on Kokomo that he deserves 25% credit, except that in interviews he would talk about Kokomo as if he wrote the whole thing.  I have never heard him give credit to the other 3 songwriters.

Mike has talked about how he took John Phillip's original composition, changed the tempo and the tense, added that bass vocal hookline, and wrote new lyrics for the second verse. He's also mentioned Terry Melcher's contribution, and stated he doesn't know what Scott McKenzie contributed. But yes, in many interviews Mike will remind us how he made "Kokomo" the commercial hit it is (which is true, from a rewrite standpoint - but I'd also credit its success in part to Terry, for producing it, and Van Dyke, for bringing in musicians like Ry Cooder and Jim Keltner, and the steel drum players - and of course credit should go to Carl, Al, and Bruce for singing some great vocals on the thing). He'll also remind us of how he took Brian's avant garde masterpiece "Good Vibrations" and made it a commercially viable boy-girl pop hit. On that one, we know that Tony Asher's original, unused lyrics also explored a boy-girl theme, so it's hard to say if it would've been as big a hit without Mike's lyrics (which, objectively, I think are better than Tony's), but I think it would've come close, no matter what.
50  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Live Action Photos in Summer 2019 ESQ on: July 18, 2019, 01:32:37 PM

Yeah...damn, what's Dennis holding there? Almost looks like a Fourth of July firework - a Roman Candle! But the glare on Mike's tambourine is similar, so maybe it's a tambourine...
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