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« Reply #700 on: April 22, 2013, 04:00:05 AM »

For those who are interested in the Beach Boys version of WIBNTLA, the deal period ends on next Friday.

What deal?
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« Reply #701 on: April 22, 2013, 05:09:36 AM »

For those who are interested in the Beach Boys version of WIBNTLA, the deal period ends on next Friday.

What deal?

See my long post on page 25. Thanks.
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« Reply #702 on: April 22, 2013, 05:11:56 AM »

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« Reply #703 on: April 22, 2013, 07:21:39 AM »

For those who are interested in the Beach Boys version of WIBNTLA, the deal period ends on next Friday.

So I guess there have been no deal takers eh? Oh well.
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« Reply #704 on: April 22, 2013, 07:30:36 AM »

For those who are interested in the Beach Boys version of WIBNTLA, the deal period ends on next Friday.

So I guess there have been no deal takers eh? Oh well.

I expect about 10 deals, which is no bad if you consider that I have almost all the Beach Boys CDs ever released. I just give an ending date because, as stated earlier, I will send the track only when all the deal will be made.
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« Reply #705 on: April 22, 2013, 07:44:49 AM »

This beachboys_fr guy has the right to do whatever he wants, but I gotta say....what is the point of having a collection of a bunch of the same crap spread over a bunch of releases? I love The Beach Boys and think I have a nice little collection, but that list of stuff just kinda borders on OCD. Like who would really want the '90s Australian release of M.I.U.? I don't get it.

At the same time, I don't think he owes any of us anything. But at the same time, I enjoy sharing material with other fans, and never at a cost. Guess I'm different though.
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« Reply #706 on: April 22, 2013, 07:51:34 AM »

This beachboys_fr guy has the right to do whatever he wants, but I gotta say....what is the point of having a collection of a bunch of the same crap spread over a bunch of releases? I love The Beach Boys and think I have a nice little collection, but that list of stuff just kinda borders on OCD. Like who would really want the '90s Australian release of M.I.U.? I don't get it.

At the same time, I don't think he owes any of us anything. But at the same time, I enjoy sharing material with other fans, and never at a cost. Guess I'm different though.

The 90's Australian release of M.I.U. Album is no longer on my want-list; I've just purchased it on Rockaway.com.au
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« Reply #707 on: April 22, 2013, 09:06:30 AM »

At the same time, I don't think he owes any of us anything. But at the same time, I enjoy sharing material with other fans, and never at a cost. Guess I'm different though.

I'm the same, I'd have shared, and I say that with no sour grapes at all LOL
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« Reply #708 on: April 22, 2013, 09:22:55 AM »

It's April... box is currently due in August? 4 months away?

Another way to look at it is... if this thing turns out not to be legit, take a re-read through the previous posts in this thread and you might feel like an idiot.


Am i the only one uncomfortable with the beachboys_fr's whole proposal/scenario on here?
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« Reply #709 on: April 22, 2013, 10:07:05 AM »

This beachboys_fr guy has the right to do whatever he wants, but I gotta say....what is the point of having a collection of a bunch of the same crap spread over a bunch of releases? I love The Beach Boys and think I have a nice little collection, but that list of stuff just kinda borders on OCD. Like who would really want the '90s Australian release of M.I.U.? I don't get it.

Well, I'm not really into collecting CD's, but I do recognise his way of collecting. For the music one copy would be enough, but I happen to have 30 + copies of both Pet Sounds and Holland. Even have 4 different copies of SIP (granted; not for the music). O, and don't even start with me on singles...

Some collect stamps or cons, others collect BB CD's... Nice hobby, eh?  Smiley
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« Reply #710 on: April 22, 2013, 10:21:27 AM »

Am i the only one uncomfortable with the beachboys_fr's whole proposal/scenario on here?

If you're uncomfortable then there is no need to trade surely.
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« Reply #711 on: April 22, 2013, 10:44:42 AM »

It's April... box is currently due in August? 4 months away?

Another way to look at it is... if this thing turns out not to be legit, take a re-read through the previous posts in this thread and you might feel like an idiot.


Am i the only one uncomfortable with the beachboys_fr's whole proposal/scenario on here?

I am also very uncomfortable with how it's handled (albeit he has the right to exactly what he wants to do with his property). However, as I have previously stated, beachboys_fr bought the TWOTS promo CD for it's collecters value, not for WIBNTLA. Therefore the WIBNTLA file is of itself not of particular value and should (for the benefit of dedicated fans) be made a common good on the internet. beachboys_fr would still have his rare collectors item and should be promoted to 'Benefactor of SmileySmile.net'.   Afro
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« Reply #712 on: April 22, 2013, 10:47:14 AM »

This beachboys_fr guy has the right to do whatever he wants, but I gotta say....what is the point of having a collection of a bunch of the same crap spread over a bunch of releases? I love The Beach Boys and think I have a nice little collection, but that list of stuff just kinda borders on OCD. Like who would really want the '90s Australian release of M.I.U.? I don't get it.

Well, I'm not really into collecting CD's, but I do recognise his way of collecting. For the music one copy would be enough, but I happen to have 30 + copies of both Pet Sounds and Holland. Even have 4 different copies of SIP (granted; not for the music). O, and don't even start with me on singles...

Some collect stamps or cons, others collect BB CD's... Nice hobby, eh?  Smiley

I had all the original LP's up to Beach Boys 85', and sold them all when the CD's came out. I won't say its the biggest regret of my life, but I find it hard to think about. The Surfin Safari was mint. Mint I tells you!
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« Reply #713 on: April 22, 2013, 11:44:06 AM »

This beachboys_fr guy has the right to do whatever he wants, but I gotta say....what is the point of having a collection of a bunch of the same crap spread over a bunch of releases? I love The Beach Boys and think I have a nice little collection, but that list of stuff just kinda borders on OCD. Like who would really want the '90s Australian release of M.I.U.? I don't get it.

Well, I'm not really into collecting CD's, but I do recognise his way of collecting. For the music one copy would be enough, but I happen to have 30 + copies of both Pet Sounds and Holland. Even have 4 different copies of SIP (granted; not for the music). O, and don't even start with me on singles...

Some collect stamps or cons, others collect BB CD's... Nice hobby, eh?  Smiley

I had all the original LP's up to Beach Boys 85', and sold them all when the CD's came out. I won't say its the biggest regret of my life, but I find it hard to think about. The Surfin Safari was mint. Mint I tells you!

I have all the original LPs anyway - surprisingly easy to get 'em all if you look right.
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« Reply #714 on: April 22, 2013, 11:48:36 AM »

Haha...imagine if they did a new mix of the track for the box set, with just a touch of AUTOTUNE, and a newly recorded guitar solo, THEN I'd be up for a deal. Wink

RE: the completist stuff. Whilst I'm obsessed with The Beach Boys, like everyone else on here, I'm more of a general record guy. The more obscure the better when it comes to rock n roll, garage, psych 45s , sunshine pop lps etc. There are far too many ace records in the world to bother with accumulating multiple copies of 'surfin usa', imo.
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« Reply #715 on: April 22, 2013, 01:36:50 PM »

Am i the only one uncomfortable with the beachboys_fr's whole proposal/scenario on here?

If you're uncomfortable then there is no need to trade surely.

Well duh! But i'm uncomfortable with the website hosting  the sales pitch in the first place. Regardless of whether he directly or indirectly gains by trading the audio file, it's still not legit. If he's so afraid of being sued, his counterargument that he gave it away for free is still nonsense.
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« Reply #716 on: April 22, 2013, 01:43:38 PM »

Well duh! But i'm uncomfortable with the website hosting  the sales pitch in the first place. Regardless of whether he directly or indirectly gains by trading the audio file, it's still not legit. If he's so afraid of being sued, his counterargument that he gave it away for free is still nonsense.

It is only one minute of the song though so I can't imagine it would be that much of a big deal.
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« Reply #717 on: April 22, 2013, 03:12:29 PM »

Am i the only one uncomfortable with the beachboys_fr's whole proposal/scenario on here?

If you're uncomfortable then there is no need to trade surely.

Well duh! But i'm uncomfortable with the website hosting  the sales pitch in the first place. Regardless of whether he directly or indirectly gains by trading the audio file, it's still not legit. If he's so afraid of being sued, his counterargument that he gave it away for free is still nonsense.

Im still watching the thread to see if a successful "trader" makes the announcement they have secured their "60 sec prize"

I think its ludicrous to have truncated the song -- But I suppose there are some here that will go for it because they want the to hear
this unreleased gem so badly.

So I am waiting for that report as at least bb_Fr's terms didnt require a "gag order" on top of everything else!  Smokin

 
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« Reply #718 on: April 22, 2013, 03:16:03 PM »

That would be awesome if the one minute were only the "noodling" flutes at the end.  LOL
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« Reply #719 on: April 23, 2013, 12:22:50 AM »

Am i the only one uncomfortable with the beachboys_fr's whole proposal/scenario on here?

I think beachboys_fr gave a plausible explanation why he's doing it this way. It's easy to say that you or I would have done it otherwise, but if one's really in that position, I'm sure you'd give it a good thought as well. He knows that it's not just the complete fanbase around here (and elsewhere), but also BRI & co. If this proposal feels comfortable for him, than that's the way it should be. He could also have chosen not to mention it at all or not share even 1 second of it.

As for me personally: of course I would have liked to hear the song already, or even a minute. But I also don't have anything on bb_fr's wishlist. So be it. You can't always get what you want...
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« Reply #720 on: April 23, 2013, 12:33:09 AM »

This beachboys_fr guy has the right to do whatever he wants, but I gotta say....what is the point of having a collection of a bunch of the same crap spread over a bunch of releases? I love The Beach Boys and think I have a nice little collection, but that list of stuff just kinda borders on OCD. Like who would really want the '90s Australian release of M.I.U.? I don't get it.

Well, I'm not really into collecting CD's, but I do recognise his way of collecting. For the music one copy would be enough, but I happen to have 30 + copies of both Pet Sounds and Holland. Even have 4 different copies of SIP (granted; not for the music). O, and don't even start with me on singles...

Some collect stamps or cons, others collect BB CD's... Nice hobby, eh?  Smiley

I had all the original LP's up to Beach Boys 85', and sold them all when the CD's came out. I won't say its the biggest regret of my life, but I find it hard to think about. The Surfin Safari was mint. Mint I tells you!

I have all the original LPs anyway - surprisingly easy to get 'em all if you look right.

Good for you!, but you're making a big assumption about my financial situation there. Most things are surprisingly easy to get if you have the money.
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« Reply #721 on: April 23, 2013, 03:11:36 AM »

Am i the only one uncomfortable with the beachboys_fr's whole proposal/scenario on here?

I think beachboys_fr gave a plausible explanation why he's doing it this way. It's easy to say that you or I would have done it otherwise, but if one's really in that position, I'm sure you'd give it a good thought as well. He knows that it's not just the complete fanbase around here (and elsewhere), but also BRI & co. If this proposal feels comfortable for him, than that's the way it should be. He could also have chosen not to mention it at all or not share even 1 second of it.

As for me personally: of course I would have liked to hear the song already, or even a minute. But I also don't have anything on bb_fr's wishlist. So be it. You can't always get what you want...

I think you've misunderstood. If anyone wants to trade away their CDs for a 60second snippet, then that's their problem. My discomfort comes mainly from the fact that he is doing it ON THIS BOARD. I don't want this board to get shut down for hosting and abetting his trade. Bought the CD legally? My arse! If the promos aren't legally supposed to be sold/traded, and they remain the property of the record company (as they often are), then it doesn't matter where bb_fr bought it from. There can still be legal action.
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« Reply #722 on: April 23, 2013, 03:24:12 AM »

Am i the only one uncomfortable with the beachboys_fr's whole proposal/scenario on here?

I think beachboys_fr gave a plausible explanation why he's doing it this way. It's easy to say that you or I would have done it otherwise, but if one's really in that position, I'm sure you'd give it a good thought as well. He knows that it's not just the complete fanbase around here (and elsewhere), but also BRI & co. If this proposal feels comfortable for him, than that's the way it should be. He could also have chosen not to mention it at all or not share even 1 second of it.

As for me personally: of course I would have liked to hear the song already, or even a minute. But I also don't have anything on bb_fr's wishlist. So be it. You can't always get what you want...

I think you've misunderstood. If anyone wants to trade away their CDs for a 60second snippet, then that's their problem. My discomfort comes mainly from the fact that he is doing it ON THIS BOARD. I don't want this board to get shut down for hosting and abetting his trade. Bought the CD legally? My arse! If the promos aren't legally supposed to be sold/traded, and they remain the property of the record company (as they often are), then it doesn't matter where bb_fr bought it from. There can still be legal action.

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« Reply #723 on: April 23, 2013, 04:14:01 AM »

Am i the only one uncomfortable with the beachboys_fr's whole proposal/scenario on here?

I think beachboys_fr gave a plausible explanation why he's doing it this way. It's easy to say that you or I would have done it otherwise, but if one's really in that position, I'm sure you'd give it a good thought as well. He knows that it's not just the complete fanbase around here (and elsewhere), but also BRI & co. If this proposal feels comfortable for him, than that's the way it should be. He could also have chosen not to mention it at all or not share even 1 second of it.

As for me personally: of course I would have liked to hear the song already, or even a minute. But I also don't have anything on bb_fr's wishlist. So be it. You can't always get what you want...

I think you've misunderstood. If anyone wants to trade away their CDs for a 60second snippet, then that's their problem. My discomfort comes mainly from the fact that he is doing it ON THIS BOARD. I don't want this board to get shut down for hosting and abetting his trade. Bought the CD legally? My arse! If the promos aren't legally supposed to be sold/traded, and they remain the property of the record company (as they often are), then it doesn't matter where bb_fr bought it from. There can still be legal action.

Thanks for clarifying. To be honest I didn't read that in your post. But if you explain it this way, I understand your point.
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« Reply #724 on: April 23, 2013, 05:06:39 AM »

Am i the only one uncomfortable with the beachboys_fr's whole proposal/scenario on here?

I think beachboys_fr gave a plausible explanation why he's doing it this way. It's easy to say that you or I would have done it otherwise, but if one's really in that position, I'm sure you'd give it a good thought as well. He knows that it's not just the complete fanbase around here (and elsewhere), but also BRI & co. If this proposal feels comfortable for him, than that's the way it should be. He could also have chosen not to mention it at all or not share even 1 second of it.

As for me personally: of course I would have liked to hear the song already, hor even a minute. But I also don't have anything on bb_fr's wishlist. So be it. You can't always get what you want...

I think you've misunderstood. If anyone wants to trade away their CDs for a 60second snippet, then that's their problem. My discomfort comes mainly from the fact that he is doing it ON THIS BOARD. I don't want this board to get shut down for hosting and abetting his trade. Bought the CD legally? My arse! If the promos aren't legally supposed to be sold/traded, and they remain the property of the record company (as they often are), then it doesn't matter where bb_fr bought it from. There can still be legal action.
Not to mention the fact that original silver pressed bootleg cd's are included in the "deal".  If WIBNTLA isn't on MIC, you can be sure that somebody will somehow leak the short clip, making the deal even more shady when you realise that people will have lost their cd's for nothing.
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