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FatherOfTheMan Sr101
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THE SMiLE SESSIONS TRACK INFORMATION THREAD
Green =
Verified (to the best of our abilities)
Red =
Rumor
1. Our Prayer (1:06)
Nothing New Here...
2. Gee (0:51)
Nothing New Here
3. Heroes And Villains (4:53)
We've Heard This.
4. Do You Like Worms (Roll Plymouth Rock) (3:36)
Fixed Tape Warp
Features some new vocals
Sessions feature original lyrics
5. I'm in Great Shape (0:29)
Features "Flown-in" Humble Harv Vocals
6. Barnyard (0:48)
Features "Flown-in" Humble Harv Vocals
Features "Flown in" Animal Sounds
Features "Tape Echo Blast"
7. My Only Sunshine (The Old Master Painter / You Are My Sunshine) (1:57)
Features Dennis'(?) Vocals
Features Barnshine Fade
(The Track is about 0:39 longer then how we know it)
8. Cabin Essence (3:32)
Features the "Truck-Drivin' Man" Vocals
We've heard this (Mojo 45')
9. Wonderful (2:04)
Features "Yodels"
We've heard this
10. Look (Song for Children) (2:31)
Features "Child, Child, Child" Vocals
Fades out, and not into CIFOTM
11. Child Is Father of the Man (2:14)
Features New Second Chorus Vocals
From Acetate
12. Surf's Up (4:12)
Features '71 Coda
13. I Wanna Be Around / Workshop (1:23)
Fades into Vegatables
14. Vega-Tables (3:49)
We've heard this
15. Holidays (2:33)
Fades into Wind Chimes (with Smiley Vocals Flown in)
16. Wind Chimes (3:06)
starts with the re-record, then moves into version 1 and ends with a hard edit
17. The Elements: Fire (Mrs. O'Leary's Cow) (2:35)
Flown-in Smiley Smile Vocals (Fall Breaks...)
18. Love to Say Dada (2:32)
Features "Water Chant"
Features "Scat Vocals" (Cool Cool Water Fly In?)
19. Good Vibrations (4:13)
Features "Hum-Be-Dumbs"
Features a longer fade
We've Heard This
Bonus Tracks
26. Surf's Up 1967 (Solo Version) (4:09)
Features Brian at a Tack Piano, with a key change near the ending.
2.Heroes and Villains: Part 1 (3:08)
"Cantina Mix" released on the "Smiley Two-fer"
3.Heroes and Villains: Part 2 (4:18)
Uses Notes Written By Brian in '67
25. SMiLE Backing Vocals Montage
includes stuff from Heroes and Villains, Wonderful, Cabin Essence, Worms, Vega-Tables and Wind Chimes.
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17. The Elements: Fire (Mrs. O'Leary's Cow) (2:35)
Nothing New Here
Wrong. Think
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DAMN. I never really liked those vocals in Fire.
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Quote from: Crinkleman123 on October 01, 2011, 02:08:45 PM
DAMN. I never really liked those vocals in Fire.
Probably his intention though, considering "Fall Breaks" and "Who Ran the Iron Horse."
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Quote from: Crinkleman123 on October 01, 2011, 02:08:45 PM
DAMN. I never really liked those vocals in Fire.
I suppose from your name that you prefer the crinkling saran wrap version?
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The silly name popped into my head one late night before bed, but yes, I actually do prefer that version.
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Great thread idea, very easy way to keep everything straight.
Not to put words in his mouth, but I thought AGD (and others) confirmed the flown-in vocals on "Great Shape" and "Barnyard."
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Quote from: Chris Brown on October 01, 2011, 02:24:18 PM
Great thread idea, very easy way to keep everything straight.
Not to put words in his mouth, but I thought AGD (and others) confirmed the flown-in vocals on "Great Shape" and "Barnyard."
Not me, but this is indeed true.
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Quote from: Chris Brown on October 01, 2011, 02:24:18 PM
Great thread idea, very easy way to keep everything straight.
Not to put words in his mouth, but I thought AGD (and others) confirmed the flown-in vocals on "Great Shape" and "Barnyard."
I thought that Lelia... ( or Whatever her name is...) said this, I don't remember AGD ever confirming it, but... okay, I guess he did now
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Quote from: Chris Brown on October 01, 2011, 02:24:18 PM
Great thread idea, very easy way to keep everything straight.
Thanks, I originally posted it elsewhere, but decided it'd be useful here.
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Quote from: FatherOfTheMan on October 01, 2011, 02:41:56 PM
Quote from: Chris Brown on October 01, 2011, 02:24:18 PM
Great thread idea, very easy way to keep everything straight.
Not to put words in his mouth, but I thought AGD (and others) confirmed the flown-in vocals on "Great Shape" and "Barnyard."
I thought that Lelia... ( or Whatever her name is...) said this, I don't remember AGD ever confirming it, but... okay, I guess he did now
I must have been thinking of Mr. Scneider on the Hoffman board - tough to keep the barrage of info straight. Either way, having Andrew's confirmation is the most solid we could ask for, so I'm glad I brought it up!
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NEW ADDITION TO
BARNYARD
Features "Tape Echo Blast"
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NEW ADDITION To Love to say dada
Features "Scat Vocals" (Cool Cool Water Fly In?)
Also, I'm going to go through this on November 2nd and see how much I got right
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Quote from: FatherOfTheMan on October 01, 2011, 01:57:10 PM
11. Child Is Father of the Man (2:14)
Features Verse Vocals
From Acetate
Whoa... what's this rumor about verse vocals?
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Just that - a rumour from someone on the Hoffman. No specifics....
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Quote from: hypehat on October 01, 2011, 03:46:09 PM
Just that - a rumour from someone on the Hoffman. No specifics....
Yup, Like I said, the point of this thread is not to say "THIS WILL BE ON THE SET" it's to confirm some rumors and organize the rest
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Quote from: FatherOfTheMan on October 01, 2011, 01:57:10 PM
4. Do You Like Worms (Roll Plymouth Rock) (3:36)
Features some vocals, but no lead
6. Barnyard (0:48)
Features "Flown in" Animal Sounds
Features "Tape Echo Blast"
11. Child Is Father of the Man (2:14)
Features Verse Vocals
4. This has always had some vocals. A lot of vocals actually. I've never understood why so many people think this song sounds so incomplete. It can totally pass as a completed song without the BWPS vocals. People are too afraid of instrumental music and lack of a discernible melody. Anyway, i digress. My point being it's always had a good amount of vocals.
6. What is the rumor source for flown-in animal sounds? Animal sounds from where? And what's the source for tape explosion in Barnyard? Is this not the tape explosion at the end of IIGS leading into Barnyard?
11. What was said on the Hoffman board was new vocals in the
second chorus
, nothing about verse vocals. What is the source for the rumor of new verse vocals?
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Just to consider: There is a tape echo explosion (blast) which was NOT included in that new Heroes mix. Maybe somehow in the scheme of things that explosion which was an integral part of Chuck Britz's '67 Heroes mix got shifted elsewhere...or maybe the order was an original sequence. Or maybe "Barnyard" got excised from Heroes to make Chuck's mix suitable for a single back in '67. That tape explosion by nature could lead anywhere in the song.
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Quote from: monicker on October 01, 2011, 05:00:19 PM
Quote from: FatherOfTheMan on October 01, 2011, 01:57:10 PM
4. Do You Like Worms (Roll Plymouth Rock) (3:36)
Features some vocals, but no lead
6. Barnyard (0:48)
Features "Flown in" Animal Sounds
Features "Tape Echo Blast"
11. Child Is Father of the Man (2:14)
Features Verse Vocals
4. This has always had some vocals. A lot of vocals actually. I've never understood why so many people think this song sounds so incomplete. It can totally pass as a completed song without the BWPS vocals. People are too afraid of instrumental music and lack of a discernible melody. Anyway, i digress. My point being it's always had a good amount of vocals.
Dom, is that you???
Just kidding, I actually agree completely. I've never though the song sounded incomplete, even though I knew it was missing a probable verse lead vocal. There's enough there to make it an amazing track without them though - the creepy (and sometimes downright scary) music, the crazy chorus vocals and that amazing bridge. Out of all the tracks clearly missing a lead vocal, it's the only one that I feel stands strongly on it's own anyways.
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Quote from: juggler on October 01, 2011, 03:39:01 PM
Quote from: FatherOfTheMan on October 01, 2011, 01:57:10 PM
11. Child Is Father of the Man (2:14)
Features Verse Vocals
From Acetate
Whoa... what's this rumor about verse vocals?
Very, very sparse.
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Like monicker said, surely the Leila rumour on Hoffman was about new CHORUS vocals in CIFOTM, not verse ones?
And similarly, surely there's no lead vocal on Worms going by the rumour? So where did that stuff in this list about 'features some new vocals' on that come from? EDIT: Or does that refer to the 'tape drag' vocals? I see there's been subsequent to and fro on Hoffman about those with 'Leila' about those. But then they aren't really 'new' vocals, are they? I mean, they were commercially released in 1993...!
And there's also a claim on Hoffman (from supposed friend 'B') that might invalidate the whole lot - that there are new vocals over the Truck Driving Man section of Cabin Essence, and EVEN ON THE MOJO VERSION. Like I've just posted in another thread here, if that's BS from 'B' and 'S' (ha ha), it has the massive disadvantage (from a hoaxer's point of view) of being VERIFIABLE BS, as we have the Mojo version already. If there is anything new there, it must be way down in the mix on the Mojo version; I can't hear anything on that track. But then... why make that claim, if it's so easy to prove wrong?
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Quote from: Matt Bielewicz on October 02, 2011, 12:02:03 AM
And there's also a claim on Hoffman (from supposed friend 'B') that might invalidate the whole lot - that there are new vocals over the Truck Driving Man section of Cabin Essence, and EVEN ON THE MOJO VERSION. Like I've just posted in another thread here, if that's BS from 'B' and 'S' (ha ha), it has the massive disadvantage (from a hoaxer's point of view) of being VERIFIABLE BS, as we have the Mojo version already. If there is anything new there, it must be way down in the mix on the Mojo version; I can't hear anything on that track. But then... why make that claim, if it's so easy to prove wrong?
The guy on the Hoffmann forum who has tried the hardest to discredit Leila also thinks the Truck Driver vocals are louder on the Mojo 45 than on the 20/20 version
http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showpost.php?p=6938099&postcount=94
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Quote from: FatherOfTheMan on October 01, 2011, 01:57:10 PM
10. Look (Song for Children) (2:31)
Features "Child, Child, Child" Vocals
Mine does
Quote from: FatherOfTheMan on October 01, 2011, 01:57:10 PM
18. Love to Say Dada (2:32)
Features "Scat Vocals" (Cool Cool Water Fly In?)
Very unlikely they'd top "Dada" with the "Cool Cool Water" scat vocs, because both versions aren't in the same key (and digital pitch manipulation in this case is way too much).
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Quote from: JMZ on October 02, 2011, 01:42:25 AM
Very unlikely they'd top "Dada" with the "Cool Cool Water" scat vocs, because both versions aren't in the same key (and digital pitch manipulation in this case is way too much).
And yet we may have this:
Quote from: FatherOfTheMan on October 01, 2011, 01:57:10 PM
15. Holidays (2:33)
Fades into Wind Chimes (with Smiley Vocals Flown in)
Unless someone spent a hell of a lot of time mixing the end of "Holidays" into the unused harpsichord-esque "whispering winds" section that involves it starting in the key of "Holidays" and then changing keys into the traditional "whispering winds" key, this is gonna be bad.
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Also, if this one is true...
Quote from: FatherOfTheMan on October 01, 2011, 01:57:10 PM
11. Child Is Father of the Man (2:14)
Features New Second Chorus Vocals
Might this just be the harmony vocals in the 2nd chorus that we've already heard but someone forgot to include on the BWPS version? I'm gonna guess this is "rumored" from the Leila post, and if so, she seems quite familiar with BWPS but nothing of the original, thus these may be "new" to her.
I don't know how to explain the vocals, but they're very much missed on BWPS.
Also
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Quote from: FatherOfTheMan on October 01, 2011, 01:57:10 PM
12. Surf's Up (4:12)
Features '71 Coda
I thought it was said that this was different from the '71 ending?
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