*SPOILERS* THE SMiLE SESSIONS TRACK INFORMATION THREAD

[Andrew G. Doe]

Unless someone spent a hell of a lot of time mixing the end of "Holidays" into the unused harpsichord-esque "whispering winds" section that involves it starting in the key of "Holidays" and then changing keys into the traditional "whispering winds" key, this is gonna be bad.

Don't think so...

[Aegir]

I'm red/green colorblind so this thread is pretty useless to me, haha

[JMZ]

15. Holidays (2:33)
Fades into Wind Chimes (with Smiley Vocals Flown in)

Unless someone spent a hell of a lot of time mixing the end of "Holidays" into the unused harpsichord-esque "whispering winds" section that involves it starting in the key of "Holidays" and then changing keys into the traditional "whispering winds" key, this is gonna be bad.

No, this makes no trouble (re-listen to the "Purple Chick" version, or ask for mine -which is better- in PM).

[hypehat]

I'm red/green colorblind so this thread is pretty useless to me, haha

Sorry, but that's funny 

Also, Fatheroftheman, what was it you were saying on the hoffman about the codas of the different SU?

[Barnshine]

15. Holidays (2:33)
Fades into Wind Chimes (with Smiley Vocals Flown in)

Unless someone spent a hell of a lot of time mixing the end of "Holidays" into the unused harpsichord-esque "whispering winds" section that involves it starting in the key of "Holidays" and then changing keys into the traditional "whispering winds" key, this is gonna be bad.

No, this makes no trouble (re-listen to the "Purple Chick" version, or ask for mine -which is better- in PM).

Purple Chick's Holidays to Wind Chimes *does* sound pretty bad (I don't know about yours, which is probably better), as most of their mix. It's mostly a mess of time-sifhting and pitch correcting.

[rogerlancelot]

Umm...What in the hell is this one about?

34. Psychodelic Sounds: Brian Farts Into The Microphone (:08)
Features "Corned Beef & Pastrami Blast"

How come this song isn't listed on Amazon? I am assuming this one is an instrumental. Maybe this is the missing "Air" track we've been searching for.....

[JMZ]

Purple Chick's Holidays to Wind Chimes *does* sound pretty bad (I don't know about yours, which is probably better), as most of their mix. It's mostly a mess of time-sifhting and pitch correcting.

Well, don't be too harsh on Purple Chick. Remember we're talking about fans, making what they could to emulate BWPS using bootleg sources. They have been the first to do that and did it rather well IMO.

Then pitch-shifters/time-stretchers do a better job nowadays than 5 years ago when "PC" did his stuff (that also why I say pretentiously that my mix sounds "better" because I did it in 2010).

And once again, we're talking about something that never existed, or at least has never been designed to exist that way. It's just about fun and fantasy (even Mark Linett's job on the official upcoming release).

[37!ws]

Umm...What in the hell is this one about?

34. Psychodelic Sounds: Brian Farts Into The Microphone (:08)
Features "Corned Beef & Pastrami Blast"

How come this song isn't listed on Amazon? I am assuming this one is an instrumental. Maybe this is the missing "Air" track we've been searching for.....

Because someone got confused. The "Brian Farts Into A Microphone" track is actually from The Beach Boys Love You Sessions.

[rogerlancelot]

Umm...What in the hell is this one about?

34. Psychodelic Sounds: Brian Farts Into The Microphone (:08)
Features "Corned Beef & Pastrami Blast"

How come this song isn't listed on Amazon? I am assuming this one is an instrumental. Maybe this is the missing "Air" track we've been searching for.....

Because someone got confused. The "Brian Farts Into A Microphone" track is actually from The Beach Boys Love You Sessions.

Would I be the only one to buy BBLYS boxed set for this track alone?

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

I'm red/green colorblind so this thread is pretty useless to me, haha

Also, Fatheroftheman, what was it you were saying on the hoffman about the codas of the different SU?

I've heard that the old pitch correction was removed from the '71 mix and re-done to more accurately re-create a '66-7 feel

[Sam_BFC]

How did they do pitch correction in 1971, varispeed?

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

I heard they sped up the tape about 3%

[JMZ]

I heard they sped up the tape about 3%

By "I heard" you mean "someone told me" or you mean "I actually hear a slight difference in the pitch" ? 

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

both, plus if you speed it down by 3% it sounds much more like the '71 boys.

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

What I wanna see is a Coda with the lyric "The father's life is done, and the children carry on," included like it would've been in '66-7

BTW, here's a quote from Wikipedia...

The newly recorded lead vocals - sung by Al Jardine over a choral backdrop featuring all the Beach Boys - were sped up by Desper for continuity purposes in an attempt to make them sound more like they did in 1966.

[Andrew G. Doe]

What I wanna see is a Coda with the lyric "The father's life is done, and the children carry on," included like it would've been in '66-7

That would be an excellent trick, seeing as said lyric was written in 1971. 

[desmondo]

Father

This is great - thanks for doing it and keeping it updated

Q1 - are we sure H&V part 1 is the Cantina mix we know because the timings are different - I know DP said so but...........

Q2 - ON IIGS and BY - do we know that they are using the full backing tracks??

[Barnshine]

Father

This is great - thanks for doing it and keeping it updated

Q1 - are we sure H&V part 1 is the Cantina mix we know because the timings are different - I know DP said so but...........

Q2 - ON IIGS and BY - do we know that they are using the full backing tracks??

All further information is from Leila's latest post on the Hoff board:

H&V part 1: presumably Cantina (with possible minor additions).
H&V part 2: presumably Part 2 variations from the Sections mix (exact structure not mentioned).

Great Shape and Barnyard: Full backing tracks with the demo vocals flown in, the piano from the demo is soft but still present.
Great Shape ends with the tape explosion and fades, Barnyard has a clean start (no cross-fade from Great Shape).

Holidays: no vocals (except "whispering winds").

Wind Chimes: basically BWPS structure - first part from the re-record, after the chorus it turns into the first version (Take 5 from SOT) with a clean ending (not fading).

Child: structure is unlike BWPS. Begins with the piano section from SOT, then the piano&bass bridge (BWPS coda), then the chorus, then the verse, then an ending chorus with additional 'Father Of The Man' high part (could be the one from BWPS).

Smile Backing Vocals Montage - includes stuff from Heroes and Villains, Wonderful, Cabin Essence, Worms, Vega-Tables and Wind Chimes. This particulary sounds incredible!  

[desmondo]

Father

This is great - thanks for doing it and keeping it updated

Q1 - are we sure H&V part 1 is the Cantina mix we know because the timings are different - I know DP said so but...........

Q2 - ON IIGS and BY - do we know that they are using the full backing tracks??

All further information is from Leila's latest post on the Hoff board:

H&V part 1: presumably Cantina (with possible minor additions).
H&V part 2: presumably Part 2 variations from the Sections mix (exact structure not mentioned).

Great Shape and Barnyard: Full backing tracks with the demo vocals flown in, the piano from the demo is soft but still present.
Great Shape ends with the tape explosion and fades, Barnyard has a clean start (no cross-fade from Great Shape).

Holidays: no vocals (except "whispering winds").

Wind Chimes: basically BWPS structure - first part from the re-record, after the chorus it turns into the first version (Take 5 from SOT) with a clean ending (not fading).

Child: structure is unlike BWPS. Begins with the piano section from SOT, then the piano&bass bridge (BWPS coda), then the chorus, then the verse, then an ending chorus with additional 'Father Of The Man' high part (could be the one from BWPS).

Smile Backing Vocals Montage - includes stuff from Heroes and Villains, Wonderful, Cabin Essence, Worms, Vega-Tables and Wind Chimes. This particulary sounds incredible!  

Thanks

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

Father

This is great - thanks for doing it and keeping it updated

Thanks a ton, I figured it'd be valuable

[earcandy]

What I wanna see is a Coda with the lyric "The father's life is done, and the children carry on," included like it would've been in '66-7

That would be an excellent trick, seeing as said lyric was written in 1971.  

Didn't  the Maharishi show Mike how to time travel?

[LonelyDays]

What I wanna see is a Coda with the lyric "The father's life is done, and the children carry on," included like it would've been in '66-7

BTW, here's a quote from Wikipedia...

The newly recorded lead vocals - sung by Al Jardine over a choral backdrop featuring all the Beach Boys - were sped up by Desper for continuity purposes in an attempt to make them sound more like they did in 1966.

Jack Reilly wrote those lyrics. Keep him out of it!!!!

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

New site I made to hold some info and stuff: http://www.wix.com/smilesessions/info

Just a quick one

[Shady]

New site I made to hold some info and stuff: http://www.wix.com/smilesessions/info

Just a quick one

wow, that is very cool

Bookmarked

[Wrightfan]

New site I made to hold some info and stuff: http://www.wix.com/smilesessions/info

Just a quick one

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You're awesome!