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Re: Some early facts and gifts from Smile Sessions
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Nice to see Mojo giving SMiLE some love. Rolling Stone better do the same, but then again MOJO Loves Brian, I bought this great edition off ebay a few months back
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Quote from: desmondo on May 21, 2011, 03:00:15 AM
Mix produced by Alan Boyd and Mark Linett
Okay, now this credit could apply to the whole SMiLE SESSIONS release, but if it is meant to apply specifically to the two tracks...well, that would suggest that they are newly mixed, right? Mark did the original mix on the GV Box Set version of "Wonderful" on his own, I believe, while "Cabinessence" was the 20/20 mix unchanged. By crediting the mix to both Alan and Mark here seems to suggest that they will not be the exact same versions previously heard.
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Assuming that disc is the real deal, note the old-school Brother label.
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I don't have the March 2004 issue pictured above but I do have sitting proudly in the archives the Feb. 2002 issue, "Missing In Action" special which had a fantastic Smile spread including some great color photos...complete with a fantasy fanmix tracklist by Rob Chapman and some common mis-information like screenshots from the "Mrs. O'Leary's Cow" and "Do You Like Worms" promo films which were nothing of the sort...but in 2002 I guess that was still the story and they were sticking to it...just like labeling something "Earth Chant" for lack of more info at the time.
I paid over 10 bucks for that at Borders back in the day, and despite the since-debunked myths it was worth it for a Smile fan. Great articles in there about the "Get Back" sessions, the lost John Fogerty and Prince albums, the disappearance of the Manic Street Preachers guy, etc.
MOJO has a grand history with promoting Smile on their covers, I'll definitely not miss out on this one when it shows up for sale here.
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Re: Some early facts and gifts from Smile Sessions
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I'll check Borders... if my local Borders can have FOUR different magazines about "Doctor Who", they can have an English music mag. :-P
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May 23, 2011, 01:34:27 AM »
All I'll say to you folks in the states is there's currently no info on the Mojo site about this 'Mojo 60s' edition so don't expect to order it from any bookstores yet. Presumably they will put information online soon and then you may have more joy.
Worse case if it isn't available outside the UK for any reason (which I very much doubt) I'll scan all the Smile pages and post here. (Won't be able to do anything about the 45 though, obviously).
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May 23, 2011, 01:48:22 AM »
And why choose these two songs?
Why not Heroes & Villains?
Are they keeping back a big surprise here?
I would think (hope) that these mixes will be markedly different. Why else tease people with two songs most fans have access to already?
I think this is precisely why. We're all going to think "Wow, if these two old chestnuts sound this good / different, then what will the rest sound like?"
Or this could all be wishful thinking on my part again.
I'm also forgetting the recent H&V 78. What version was that again?
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Quote from: Roger Ryan on May 22, 2011, 04:29:32 PM
Quote from: desmondo on May 21, 2011, 03:00:15 AM
Mix produced by Alan Boyd and Mark Linett
Okay, now this credit could apply to the whole SMiLE SESSIONS release, but if it is meant to apply specifically to the two tracks...well, that would suggest that they are newly mixed, right? Mark did the original mix on the GV Box Set version of "Wonderful" on his own, I believe, while "Cabinessence" was the 20/20 mix unchanged. By crediting the mix to both Alan and Mark here seems to suggest that they will not be the exact same versions previously heard.
I think the "Mix produced by Alan Boyd and Mark Linett" line, refers to the box in general, as does the "Executive Producer Dennis Wolfe" line. However I was wondering about the chance of new mixes. I really don't want to get my hopes up because my head is telling me, based on the track lengths, that we will get the existing mixes. Also would they really use a Mojo spin off magazine to preview anything too mindblowing? That said, there's a chance Mark may have flown in parts to Wonderful such as the yodel BVs, and this potentially would not impact on the track length, or other, more subtle alterations could've been made to the mixes that would not impact on length.
For anyone who's interested here's the exact info printed on the 45 in the ad:
Brother Records
The Beach Boys
Side A - this side
Cabin Essence - 3.30
Brian Wilson / Van Dyke Parks
Irving Music (BMI) / Safe & Sane Music (ASCAP)
Side B - other side
Wonderful - 2.03
Irving Music (BMI)
Produced and Arranged by brian Wilson
Lyrics by Van Dyke Parks
From the forthcoming Capitol release "The Smile Sessions"
Executive Producer Dennis Wolfe
Mixed and Mastered by Mark Linett at Your Place Or Mine Recording
Mix Produced by Alan Boyd and Mark Linett
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Length of "Wonderful" from the 1993 box set disc 2 ? Two minutes and three seconds.
"Cabin Essence" from the same disc is 3.34, but after 3.29 it's essentially silence.
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Quote from: Iron Horse-Apples on May 23, 2011, 01:48:22 AM
I would think (hope) that these mixes will be markedly different. Why else tease people with two songs most fans have access to already?
As you said, "most
fans
" - even your average
Mojo
reader probably hasn't heard the original
Smile
version of "Wonderful"
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Way to go, Buzz Killington
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Quote from: hypehat on May 23, 2011, 03:21:08 AM
Way to go, Buzz Killington
Have to say, AGD's sober assessment of the likelihood of new mixes is probably spot on.
Also, when my hopes start going though the roof for this upcoming release I have to keep reminding myself of adamghost's post from a few weeks back where he spoke to Alan Boyd and cautioned us to keep our hopes in check. I think if we're lucky there may be one unbooted find on this boxset at most, but I very much doubt we'll get much beyond that. Whether M.Linett chooses to rejig his existing mixes from the GV box is anyone's guess but as far as this yellow vinyl goes I think it's going to be familiar territory.
Let's hope there's some fresh info inside the pages though!
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"Side A - this side
Cabin Essence - 3.30
Brian Wilson / Van Dyke Parks
Irving Music (BMI) /
Safe & Sane Music (ASCAP)
Side B - other side
Wonderful - 2.03
Irving Music (BMI)
Produced and Arranged by brian Wilson
Lyrics by Van Dyke Parks"
Could that suggest that there are some prev unused VDP lyrics in this version of Cabin Essence?
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We already discussed that - probably something to do with a rejigging of publishing rights to VDP's current company.
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Re: Some early facts and gifts from Smile Sessions
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I wonder if Mojo runs a month behind here in the U.S.? I think when Mojo ran the article on Brian and Smile in 2004, I had to wait to get a copy.
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Quote from: willy on May 23, 2011, 03:34:38 AM
"Side A - this side
Cabin Essence - 3.30
Brian Wilson / Van Dyke Parks
Irving Music (BMI) /
Safe & Sane Music (ASCAP)
Side B - other side
Wonderful - 2.03
Irving Music (BMI)
Produced and Arranged by brian Wilson
Lyrics by Van Dyke Parks"
Could that suggest that there are some prev unused VDP lyrics in this version of Cabin Essence?
Or could it suggest that VDP has changed the name of his publishing company ? That said, it does seem S&SM existed in 1967.
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The cover says Mojo '60s, is this a different magazine than the regular Mojo, or does it just say that because it's a theme issue?
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For what it's worth, the order of the two songs (A Side/ B Side) is the same as the track sequence on BWPS
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Quote from: shelter on May 23, 2011, 04:38:32 AM
The cover says Mojo '60s, is this a different magazine than the regular Mojo, or does it just say that because it's a theme issue?
Mojo does a quarterly special on a particular era / band - looks like this will be the new special. In the UK they are slightly more expensive than the standard Mojo - about £7...
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Quote from: willy on May 23, 2011, 03:34:38 AM
"Side A - this side
Cabin Essence - 3.30
Brian Wilson / Van Dyke Parks
Irving Music (BMI) /
Safe & Sane Music (ASCAP)
Side B - other side
Wonderful - 2.03
Irving Music (BMI)
Produced and Arranged by brian Wilson
Lyrics by Van Dyke Parks"
Could that suggest that there are some prev unused VDP lyrics in this version of Cabin Essence?
Doubt it
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Quote from: Roger Ryan on May 23, 2011, 05:20:48 AM
For what it's worth, the order of the two songs (A Side/ B Side) is the same as the track sequence on BWPS
Nice spot!
Coincidence maybe, but perhaps another indicator of the looming presence of BWPS over this box ...
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Quote from: hypehat on May 23, 2011, 03:39:16 AM
We already discussed that - probably something to do with a rejigging of publishing rights to VDP's current company.
Well... yes, but why only Cabin Essence and not Wonderful?
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on May 23, 2011, 03:08:25 AM
Length of "Wonderful" from the 1993 box set disc 2 ? Two minutes and three seconds.
"Cabin Essence" from the same disc is 3.34, but after 3.29 it's essentially silence.
Yes but as we all know length don't mean diddly
That said I expect them to be much better quality versions of what we already know and love
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Quote from: buddhahat on May 23, 2011, 06:26:41 AM
Quote from: Roger Ryan on May 23, 2011, 05:20:48 AM
For what it's worth, the order of the two songs (A Side/ B Side) is the same as the track sequence on BWPS
Nice spot!
Coincidence maybe, but perhaps another indicator of the looming presence of BWPS over this box ...
...which was plainly stated by ML in his interview - BWPS = template
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Quote from: desmondo on May 23, 2011, 06:48:06 AM
Quote from: buddhahat on May 23, 2011, 06:26:41 AM
Quote from: Roger Ryan on May 23, 2011, 05:20:48 AM
For what it's worth, the order of the two songs (A Side/ B Side) is the same as the track sequence on BWPS
Nice spot!
Coincidence maybe, but perhaps another indicator of the looming presence of BWPS over this box ...
...which was plainly stated by ML in his interview - BWPS = template
Yes apologies - I don't actually know what my point was above. This upcoming Smile box has me waffling like no other BB related event so far!
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