Smiley Smile

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Well that brings up an interesting point. The Smiley Smile sessions were actually considered to be Smile sessions. I see Smiley Smile as the natural evolution of Smile in Brian's mind. Minimalistic and harsh.

Which doesn't say much for Brian's mind.

Why bother with Surf's Up when you have Gettin Hungry?

[Jason]

Well it's no secret that Brian's mind during the Smiley Smile period was the equivalent of a pile of bricks. He obviously thought Smiley Smile was the sound he was looking for. Who are we to disagree?

[Daniel S.]

The name Smiley Smile.
Because it was a distorted, deconstructed and melted SMiLE. Truth in advertising.

Yeah, but whose idea was it?

[Daniel S.]

yeah, well I think you're the same guy.  pathetic.

[Roger Ryan]

Carl has said that "Wild Honey" was an album for Brian to cool out to, but I think "Smiley Smile" suits that purpose as well. After completing the "Heroes & Villains" single (that had to happen, right?), Brian avoided anything heavy or complicated. He was still looking for an upbeat, happy follow-up to the preceived downer of "Pet Sounds", but it also had to be psychedelic to compete with everything else going on in '67. The result was "Smiley Smile". The fact that the album ended up sounding darker and more depressing than "Pet Sounds" is probably an inadvertent side effect of Brian's mental state. I'm certain Brian thought SS was the kind of humorous, fun album that would be appropriate for the Beach Boys; the opposite of "SMiLE" which he believed was too complicated, heavy and ego-driven to release (or complete).

[Chris D.]

“Smiley Smile” puts forth the idea that the album was even more fun that Smile, which surely it is not.

It's supposed to imply insincerity.  It's not a real smile, it's a smiley smile.  It's like a smile, but it's not.  Just like the album.

Because it was a distorted, deconstructed and melted SMiLE. Truth in advertising.

Yes.

[I. Spaceman]

It's supposed to imply insincerity.  It's not a real smile, it's a smiley smile.  It's like a smile, but it's not.  Just like the album.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Aegir]

They have the same personality and writing style, but it's probably just because they're both morons.

[mike8902]

Tell me, why the HELL would I do something like that? What would I benefit from by posting as two people? The people on this board almost ruin the beach boys for me. To know there are morons out there that like such an amazing songwriter/band as Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys really disheartens me. Maybe it seems like me and matt have a similar personality because we're actually friends in real life and discuss the Beach Boys in face to face conversation. Unlike you nerds who wish you had real friends, so you post on tons of forums like this one so you can simulate human interaction.  You people are sad.

[I. Spaceman]

The people on this board almost ruin the beach boys for me.

What a drag. Better go back to your aerobics workout to the music of Loverboy with Matt. COOL people like Loverboy and aerobics.

[mike8902]

What the hell are you talking about? Stop resorting to childish insults, it's not so good of a tactic when all you can come up with are stupid gay jokes over and over. Really, what is your problem? I came on here to express my dislike for smiley smile, and all I get are retarded insults from you and your equally un-intelligent allies on this forum. You people take all the fun out of the beach boys. You're the same on every forum.

[Jason]

Well at least we have them typing in sentences for once.

[I. Spaceman]

I came on here to express my dislike for smiley smile

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The reason you came on was to express negativity.
So that's what you get back!
See how that works?

[mike8902]

When have I not spoken in sentences? "Them"? It's just ME my name is MIKE i'm not the same FCKING person as matt.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The reason you came on was to express negativity.
So that's what you get back!
See how that works?

You people clearly don't know how to debate due to your lack of human interaction. When someone expresses they're opinion and it's negative to you, you should question them like an adult rather than resorting to dumb insults.

[mike8902]

Has anyone ever heard the word "decency"?

[Chris D.]

When have I not spoken in sentences? "Them"? It's just ME my name is MIKE i'm not the same FCKING person as matt.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The reason you came on was to express negativity.
So that's what you get back!
See how that works?

You people clearly don't know how to debate due to your lack of human interaction. When someone expresses they're opinion and it's negative to you, you should question them like an adult rather than resorting to dumb insults.

You never debated.  You only said people who liked Smiley were stupid.

If you think no one noticed the leap in your spelling skills, you're the idiot.  Before today you made theeponymuseudonym look like fucking Thomas Jefferson.  But I'm sure you're him, too.

[Jason]

Someone needs to get Charles to do some spring-cleaning on this thread. It's become one big argument, who wants to read that? That's really pathetic, on the parts of everyone who dared feed the trolls (myself included).

[I. Spaceman]

Mike, you have just gotten back what you gave.
Decency is NOT telling people they are wrong and crazy for liking an album. That's what you came on here to do.
You stated your opinions bullishly and stupidly.
You have not been decent or smart ONCE in this thread.
Therefore you get indecency and stupidity back.

You want a serious discussion? OK. here's a question:
One of the coolest guys here is Andreas. He can't stand SMiLEY. No one takes issue with that.
Why do you think that is, Mike?

[mike8902]

HAHAHAHA. No all I said was I can't comprehend why people like this album. You people can think all you want. I am one person, and only have one username on this board. I actually have a life, so I don't have time to post as 30 different people.

[mike8902]

Absolutley terrible. How could they release this after pet sounds? Even if they just released the unfinished Smile sessions it would be light years beyond this crap.

That was my original post. I never called anyone stupid for liking smiley smile. I was automatically labeled a "troll" and you went with it, and any insults I dished out were in my defense. You are the trolls who are against free speech.

[I. Spaceman]

No, I'm against people who come on a message board solely to spread negativity.
Foda you and the skateboard you rode in on.

[mike8902]

Damnit man, my objective was not to spread negativity. There always needs to be two sides of the coin. I don't know why you don't get it. They balance each other out.

[mike8902]

Haven't you learned anything from Clockwork Orange?

[I. Spaceman]

How not to adapt a great piece of literature into a godawful and pretentious bit of overrated garbage that should only be cut up for use as ukelele picks?

[mike8902]

Well we disagree on something else too then. The book is great, and the movie is just as great and I bet you were pissed cause they left out the last chapter in the movie.