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« Reply #425 on: July 09, 2010, 10:47:43 PM »

There are hundreds of stories of "odd" behaviour from Brian Wilson when it comes to Beach Boys concerts. Anything from not showing up to a show, to being totally off the wall(Maryland 1977 for example). My question is, have their been any known cases of strange behaviour from Brian during his "comeback" and subsequent solo tours? The only thing I know of is the show with Al where he almost passed out and had to leave the stage.
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« Reply #426 on: July 10, 2010, 01:21:01 AM »

I'ts easily the best Paley/Wilson song.  I'm just glad it didn't get the GIOMH treatment.
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« Reply #427 on: July 10, 2010, 09:55:47 AM »

What are Brian's religious views?

I know he was raised Christian to some degree and attended church regularly (sang in its choir and the like), but I get the impression he only nominally Christian, if at all, and that he at least believes in some kind of god? I mean, I'm not expecting him to be a Spinozist or anything (although that'd be cool!), I'm just curious if it's ever been really discussed to any degree that a picture if his religious outlook (if any) can be explicated.

Something that gave me pause was the single-issue verse in "Love and Mercy" that he used during one broadcast, I think, and that was it: "I was praying to a god who just doesn't seem to hear / Oh, the blessings we need the most are what we all fear." (Clearly, Brian is my favourite philosopher!)
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« Reply #428 on: July 10, 2010, 12:40:59 PM »

I think there are threads on this, actually. But I believe Brian would fit into that ever-popular relatively modern phenomenon of "spiritual, not religious." It's tough to say, though, in that he has dropped comments over decades while of various mental and chemically induced capacities. Add to that the difficulty in discerning actual intention sometimes, in terms of literal speech v metaphor ("i.e., the devil is out to get me"; horned guy with a pitchfork, or you feel you have bad luck?), and it's just hard to say. I'd say he has pretty consistently said he has belief in some kind of supernatural power of good that you could consider to be a god. But if you wanted to get into a theological discussion with him on specific doctrine, my guess is that he'd ask whether it wouldn't be more fun to watch Norbit over a couple of birthday cakes.
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« Reply #429 on: July 10, 2010, 01:27:14 PM »

I believe Jeff is an evangelical Christian, so I'm sure he's talked to Brian about that side of things. But I don't think BW is showing up at a megachurch anytime soon.

"God did it" is an interesting unreleased track in this respect.
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« Reply #430 on: July 10, 2010, 03:18:44 PM »

I've read interviews from the '90s/'00s with Brian wherein he states that music is the essence of God, or the presence of God, or perhaps IS God. He also has stated, essentially, that he believes (at least he has at some moments in his life) that Phil Spector is a manifestation of God. In the interview where Brian says that about Spector, his handler gets nervous and asks the interviewer to stop asking questions about Spector. Interesting stuff.
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« Reply #431 on: July 10, 2010, 10:26:13 PM »

I believe Jeff is an evangelical Christian, so I'm sure he's talked to Brian about that side of things. But I don't think BW is showing up at a megachurch anytime soon.

"God did it" is an interesting unreleased track in this respect.

Jeff?

as in the Foskett variety?
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« Reply #432 on: July 10, 2010, 11:11:28 PM »

Yep.

http://www.worldmag.com/articles/10225
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« Reply #433 on: July 11, 2010, 02:48:49 AM »

What are Brian's religious views?

I know he was raised Christian to some degree and attended church regularly (sang in its choir and the like), but I get the impression he only nominally Christian, if at all, and that he at least believes in some kind of god? I mean, I'm not expecting him to be a Spinozist or anything (although that'd be cool!), I'm just curious if it's ever been really discussed to any degree that a picture if his religious outlook (if any) can be explicated.

Something that gave me pause was the single-issue verse in "Love and Mercy" that he used during one broadcast, I think, and that was it: "I was praying to a god who just doesn't seem to hear / Oh, the blessings we need the most are what we all fear." (Clearly, Brian is my favourite philosopher!)

Brian attended Mesa Presbyterian Church.

That deleted verse in "L&M" was penned by Landy... and which single have you heard it on ? I've only ever heard performed live.
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« Reply #434 on: July 11, 2010, 07:43:06 AM »

What are Brian's religious views?

I know he was raised Christian to some degree and attended church regularly (sang in its choir and the like), but I get the impression he only nominally Christian, if at all, and that he at least believes in some kind of god? I mean, I'm not expecting him to be a Spinozist or anything (although that'd be cool!), I'm just curious if it's ever been really discussed to any degree that a picture if his religious outlook (if any) can be explicated.

Something that gave me pause was the single-issue verse in "Love and Mercy" that he used during one broadcast, I think, and that was it: "I was praying to a god who just doesn't seem to hear / Oh, the blessings we need the most are what we all fear." (Clearly, Brian is my favourite philosopher!)

Brian attended Mesa Presbyterian Church.

That deleted verse in "L&M" was penned by Landy... and which single have you heard it on ? I've only ever heard performed live.

I should have guessed that it would be Landy, I suppose!

I meant 'single-issue' as in 'used once' rather than 'issued as a single', sorry.
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« Reply #435 on: July 11, 2010, 09:15:21 AM »

So, if they made the Smile Box Set everybody's been talking about, what would it contain that we don't already have on bootlegs?
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« Reply #436 on: July 13, 2010, 06:21:05 PM »

I've always wondered about the title: Terri, She needs me...I always thought someone missheard Sheri She Needs me from the Brian vocal in 76-77-78, whichever...but now I read on AGD's site that Terri was written or recorded around 88, was this for the BW solo album? using the old backing track or new one?
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« Reply #437 on: July 13, 2010, 11:08:12 PM »

Another dumb question... is Brian a shapeshifter? I mean seriously, how did he manage to repeatedly look like a different person throughout his life? Sure, there are similarities that you can see throughout the decades, but I have difficulty reconciling in my mind 60s Brian (hell, even 62-63 Brian vs. 66-67 Brian is somewhat dramatic) with mid-late 70s Brian, late 80s Brian, and then late 90s-2000s Brian. It's almost like an anomaly, I swear. Very strange.
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« Reply #438 on: July 14, 2010, 10:22:38 AM »

I've always thought the same thing, just never knew how to ask it.  3D
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« Reply #439 on: July 14, 2010, 10:51:01 AM »

There's this incredible photo used in the BWPS doc where 66-67 Brian looks like his old self - it's one where he's playing a mellotron or something wearing red tinted glasses.
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« Reply #440 on: July 14, 2010, 10:58:30 AM »

Know the one you mean - it's the one with the dolls still in their display rack behind him. There's a B&W print in Leaf's book.
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« Reply #441 on: July 14, 2010, 11:08:58 AM »

It's all about the hairstyle and beards.

Here's an exception that proves the point. Brian talking about Pet Sounds in the mid-90s. For whatever reason, he's decided to style his hair like it was in the 1960s, and wear a striped shirt (!). You can see it's the same guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAEt3IKnZWY
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« Reply #442 on: July 14, 2010, 12:35:43 PM »

So, if they made the Smile Box Set everybody's been talking about, what would it contain that we don't already have on bootlegs?
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« Reply #443 on: July 14, 2010, 12:51:38 PM »

So, if they made the Smile Box Set everybody's been talking about, what would it contain that we don't already have on bootlegs?
Anyone?

It would have better quality tracks of certain songs for one thing I believe. There's also stuff we've never heard before, maybe that'll mysteriously surface  Grin
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« Reply #444 on: July 14, 2010, 12:56:45 PM »

It's all about the hairstyle and beards.

Here's an exception that proves the point. Brian talking about Pet Sounds in the mid-90s. For whatever reason, he's decided to style his hair like it was in the 1960s, and wear a striped shirt (!). You can see it's the same guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAEt3IKnZWY
The History of Rock and Roll, 1993 or 94. Also contains the infamous sequence where Brian gets Alan to hold his nose to imitate Mike. Great doc.
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« Reply #445 on: July 14, 2010, 12:58:06 PM »

[If this deserves its own thread, do say so!]

I was watching this amusing YouTube video, which details the various songs that Brian has (at least) inserted the "Shortenin' Bread" bass riff into, and it got me a-wonderin' about other examples of this sort of musical recycling. I guess I'm not especially good at this sort of auditory guesswork because I've only noticed it before in the 'dit-dit-dit' melody bits of "All Dressed Up for School" > "Games Two Can Play" > "Marcella" [and, at that, only especially in the first two]. Any other neat examples would be instructive and fun too! Smiley



Additionally, how did Brian come to know "Sloop John B", was it actually through Al? I ask because on the recent (like, last year or two, I think) In the Garage SOT boot there was a disc of early home rehearsals with the Wilson family where "Sloop John B" was featured (Audre was singing lead, if I recall correctly; I no longer have the boot). Putting aside whether the song is even a genuine folk song, did he just learn it from his parents and eventually Al brought it up as a possible single independently, or was Al at this family musical gathering as well and brought up working on that song in particularly as he remembered (ostensibly) liking singing it already? It obviously doesn't matter much, but I am, after all, still an obsessive enough Beach Boys fan (and a burgeoning folk enthusiast) to not only post on a BBs/BW fan forum... but to care about and be interested in such questions as well!
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« Reply #446 on: July 14, 2010, 01:12:17 PM »

Alan suggested it to Brian circa 1965, Brian did his arrangement, yadda yadda yadda and last I heard, Alan was still bitching that he never got credit for 'inspiring' Brian to record it. Y'know, I try but sometimes it's hard to warm to the guy.
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« Reply #447 on: July 14, 2010, 01:19:37 PM »

That is precious. Does Al think the music industry still works, with respect to songwriting credits and publications, as if it were the early 20th century? Well, I suppose if he is the token "folkie" of the group it would not be so strange.
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« Reply #448 on: July 14, 2010, 01:21:19 PM »

How many Beach Boys vocals that are double-tracked come in single-track versions, and where could I find them?
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« Reply #449 on: July 14, 2010, 01:31:10 PM »

Look on the SOTs. For pretty much every track that has this - (1st vocal overdub) - next to the track name, it means you have the master take vocal but only the first overdub.
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