Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread!

[Jay]

When the group recorded their version of "I Was Made to Love Her", was James Jamerson's original bass line recreated? Or was it simplified? In my opinion, that bass line as played by James Jamerson is one of the all time best in rock music. But it seems complicated to me. But then again I have no training or any real knowledge of chord patterns.

[Andrew G. Doe]

I was reading on one of my numerous print outs, I think it was from Mtvernonandfairway.de that there was discussion of a song called Lori but it was just a re-write of the song Number One which is just a re-write of Visions....My questions are, who sings on Lori and Visions? Was Lori ever released? and Why didn't Brian use that melody for something more important like the albums he was working on at the time? Surfin' USA coulda used another slow number and kick one of those instrumentals out.

"Visions"  -as "Number One" - is the B side of the Rachel & The Revolvers 45... I think "Lori" is a Glen Campbell song - he surely did a demo of it.

[Jay]

*Nevermind....posted in the wrong topic*

[punkinhead]

I was reading on one of my numerous print outs, I think it was from Mtvernonandfairway.de that there was discussion of a song called Lori but it was just a re-write of the song Number One which is just a re-write of Visions....My questions are, who sings on Lori and Visions? Was Lori ever released? and Why didn't Brian use that melody for something more important like the albums he was working on at the time? Surfin' USA coulda used another slow number and kick one of those instrumentals out.

"Visions"  -as "Number One" - is the B side of the Rachel & The Revolvers 45... I think "Lori" is a Glen Campbell song - he surely did a demo of it.

Really?
Is it "available" or at least "audible" from some type of source?

[punkinhead]

I saw where Brian (along with Carnie and Wendy) recorded Sweetie in the mid-90s...would this be the same song that appears on a lot of Paley/demo boots?


Would this have been around the time of Brian recording Do it Again with the girls during IJWMFTT or around the time they recorded Let Him Run Wild or (if it was a different time) when they recorded material for The Wilsons?

[punkinhead]

Looking at items recorded around Pet Sounds, Good Vibrations, and Smile; one song that I've never heard come up is something called Excuse Me Baby which was recorded on 5/66 according to my sources, any story on this?

[punkinhead]

Yep, I'm full of questions to ponder tonight 


With the situation of the home studio being built in Brian's house around Smiley Smile and then Marilyn having it taken out by 73, what were the first and last songs recorded there?


With a majority of the material from 67-73 recorded in that studio, what songs were recorded outside of the home studio during that time? (besides Holland!)

[Andrew G. Doe]

Looking at items recorded around Pet Sounds, Good Vibrations, and Smile; one song that I've never heard come up is something called Excuse Me Baby which was recorded on 5/66 according to my sources, any story on this?

Gigs & sessions 1966

I think you need to stop reading Badman. 

[Andrew G. Doe]

Yep, I'm full of questions to ponder tonight  


With the situation of the home studio being built in Brian's house around Smiley Smile and then Marilyn having it taken out by 73, what were the first and last songs recorded there?


With a majority of the material from 67-73 recorded in that studio, what songs were recorded outside of the home studio during that time? (besides Holland!)

Gigs & sessions 1966 - Gigs & sessions 1972

At the risk of blowing my own trumpet, suggest you check out Bellagio 10452 first, then if the answer isn't there, ask here.  

[punkinhead]

Yep, I'm full of questions to ponder tonight  


With the situation of the home studio being built in Brian's house around Smiley Smile and then Marilyn having it taken out by 73, what were the first and last songs recorded there?


With a majority of the material from 67-73 recorded in that studio, what songs were recorded outside of the home studio during that time? (besides Holland!)

Gigs & sessions 1966 - Gigs & sessions 1972

At the risk of blowing my own trumpet, suggest you check out Bellagio 10452 first, then if the answer isn't there, ask here.  

Here's a question for Mr. Doe or anyone who researches and posts on a site for resources/research and such:

When there's a song in question that you've posted on your site, for instance, Basketball Rock (I think the title is) from around 78, what is your reference? From a basic book or a session sheet or word of mouth from interview?
Does that question make sense?
Where does your hard to find factoids come from?

[Andrew G. Doe]

Here's a question for Mr. Doe or anyone who researches and posts on a site for resources/research and such:

When there's a song in question that you've posted on your site, for instance, Basketball Rock (I think the title is) from around 78, what is your reference? From a basic book or a session sheet or word of mouth from interview?
Does that question make sense?
Where does your hard to find factoids come from?

Basically... all of those. AFM sheets, articles, CD booklets, interviews, books. Plus, having a stupidly retentive memory for such trivia helps.

[punkinhead]

Here's a question for Mr. Doe or anyone who researches and posts on a site for resources/research and such:

When there's a song in question that you've posted on your site, for instance, Basketball Rock (I think the title is) from around 78, what is your reference? From a basic book or a session sheet or word of mouth from interview?
Does that question make sense?
Where does your hard to find factoids come from?

Basically... all of those. AFM sheets, articles, CD booklets, interviews, books. Plus, having a stupidly retentive memory for such trivia helps.

gotcha! Thanks.

One day I hope to be just like you, havin my own BB book published and possessor of much BB/BW knowledge. 

[bgas]

Here's a question for Mr. Doe or anyone who researches and posts on a site for resources/research and such:

When there's a song in question that you've posted on your site, for instance, Basketball Rock (I think the title is) from around 78, what is your reference? From a basic book or a session sheet or word of mouth from interview?
Does that question make sense?
Where does your hard to find factoids come from?

Basically... all of those. AFM sheets, articles, CD booklets, interviews, books. Plus, having a stupidly retentive memory for such trivia helps.

gotcha! Thanks.

One day I hope to be just like you, havin my own BB book published and possessor of much BB/BW knowledge. 

Maybe you could apprentice to AGD?  better work on a better pic, tho.

[punkinhead]

Here's a question for Mr. Doe or anyone who researches and posts on a site for resources/research and such:

When there's a song in question that you've posted on your site, for instance, Basketball Rock (I think the title is) from around 78, what is your reference? From a basic book or a session sheet or word of mouth from interview?
Does that question make sense?
Where does your hard to find factoids come from?

Basically... all of those. AFM sheets, articles, CD booklets, interviews, books. Plus, having a stupidly retentive memory for such trivia helps.

gotcha! Thanks.

One day I hope to be just like you, havin my own BB book published and possessor of much BB/BW knowledge. 

Maybe you could apprentice to AGD?  better work on a better pic, tho.

my pic? whats wrong with it?

[Andrew G. Doe]

Here's a question for Mr. Doe or anyone who researches and posts on a site for resources/research and such:

When there's a song in question that you've posted on your site, for instance, Basketball Rock (I think the title is) from around 78, what is your reference? From a basic book or a session sheet or word of mouth from interview?
Does that question make sense?
Where does your hard to find factoids come from?

Basically... all of those. AFM sheets, articles, CD booklets, interviews, books. Plus, having a stupidly retentive memory for such trivia helps.

gotcha! Thanks.

One day I hope to be just like you, havin my own BB book published and possessor of much BB/BW knowledge. 

No you don't. Trust me. 

[Curtis Leon]

When the group recorded their version of "I Was Made to Love Her", was James Jamerson's original bass line recreated? Or was it simplified? In my opinion, that bass line as played by James Jamerson is one of the all time best in rock music. But it seems complicated to me. But then again I have no training or any real knowledge of chord patterns.

If you listen to the Sea of Tunes boots on the song, you can hear it being recreated in the sessions. Brian cut off the opening from the finished product, though, for some unfathomable reason.

[hypehat]

When the group recorded their version of "I Was Made to Love Her", was James Jamerson's original bass line recreated? Or was it simplified? In my opinion, that bass line as played by James Jamerson is one of the all time best in rock music. But it seems complicated to me. But then again I have no training or any real knowledge of chord patterns.

Jamerson is a ridiculously hard bass player to copy, and the BB's version is pretty close to Stevie, so I'd say either Brian was practising A LOT (best bassist of the group) or it's a session player

[Jon Stebbins]

When the group recorded their version of "I Was Made to Love Her", was James Jamerson's original bass line recreated? Or was it simplified? In my opinion, that bass line as played by James Jamerson is one of the all time best in rock music. But it seems complicated to me. But then again I have no training or any real knowledge of chord patterns.

Jamerson is a ridiculously hard bass player to copy, and the BB's version is pretty close to Stevie, so I'd say either Brian was practising A LOT (best bassist of the group) or it's a session player

I'd argue that Al was a better bass player than Brian, he certainly played bass on more of the classic BB's stuff than Brian did. Of course Brian told him what to play, but Al locked in rhythmically better than Brian ever did. BTW, IMO neither of those guys were up to "I Was Made To Love Her", that's gotta be a session player.

[bgas]

When the group recorded their version of "I Was Made to Love Her", was James Jamerson's original bass line recreated? Or was it simplified? In my opinion, that bass line as played by James Jamerson is one of the all time best in rock music. But it seems complicated to me. But then again I have no training or any real knowledge of chord patterns.

Jamerson is a ridiculously hard bass player to copy, and the BB's version is pretty close to Stevie, so I'd say either Brian was practising A LOT (best bassist of the group) or it's a session player

I'd argue that Al was a better bass player than Brian, he certainly played bass on more of the classic BB's stuff than Brian did. Of course Brian told him what to play, but Al locked in rhythmically better than Brian ever did. BTW, IMO neither of those guys were up to "I Was Made To Love Her", that's gotta be a session player.

It's gotta be Carol....

[Jason]

Wasn't it Ray Pohlman on I Was Made To Love Her?

[brother john]

Do we know who did backing vox on Here Today? To what degree was it was a full-band effort and how much of it was Brian and 1 or 2  BBs overdubbing? Sounds quite BW=heavy to me. Brian is obviously there, and I think I can I hear Dennis on outro to the vox-only on the box set.

It seems that, given we know that most of IJWMFTT BGs were BW, he seemed to use full group on the bigger cuts/singles, and maybe not on the other album tracks?

[Myk Luhv]

This will likely get more of a response here than in the general music section, I suppose, so I'll put it here (it can be moved if too inappropriate): Does anyone know the original songwriters for what are presumably authentic Trinidadian calypsos that VDP recorded for Discover America? In particular, I'm wondering about "FDR in Trinidad" as all I can find are his recorded as well as Ry Cooder's. Would it be worthwhile to email him about this if nothing turns up?

[hypehat]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discover_America

"All songs Public Domain and arranged by VDP unless otherwise stated" 

[Christian]

see this ad for the composers´names:

[Myk Luhv]

Thanks a lot! I'm wary of crediting music to traditional or public domain sources since this is sometimes done when the performer doesn't know the original songwriter (or at least the earliest known performer at any rate), which is why I asked. (The liner notes to the album mention that he hopes the original songwriters get their dues but doesn't mention who any of them are!)