Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread!

[Dead Parrot]

Oh, I know where Mike was going with "Bachelor of bullets", but it was just the wrong tone for the song. As I mentioned above, that line in particular manages to demean the victims of the incident. Overall, it's kind of a mushy viewpoint; you really can't tell if Love thought the National Guard shooting students was a good thing or a bad thing.

Always thought "The pen is mightier than the sword/But no match for a gun" line was great. The rest of the lyrics not so much.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Oh, I know where Mike was going with "Bachelor of bullets", but it was just the wrong tone for the song. As I mentioned above, that line in particular manages to demean the victims of the incident. Overall, it's kind of a mushy viewpoint; you really can't tell if Love thought the National Guard shooting students was a good thing or a bad thing.

Always thought "The pen is mightier than the sword/But no match for a gun" line was great. The rest of the lyrics not so much.

Not as good as the old western axiom, "a Colt .45 beats four aces".  

[The Shift]

Oh, I know where Mike was going with "Bachelor of bullets", but it was just the wrong tone for the song. As I mentioned above, that line in particular manages to demean the victims of the incident. Overall, it's kind of a mushy viewpoint; you really can't tell if Love thought the National Guard shooting students was a good thing or a bad thing.

Always thought "The pen is mightier than the sword/But no match for a gun" line was great. The rest of the lyrics not so much.

Not as good as the old western axiom, "a Colt .45 beats four aces". 

Or Crocodile Dundee's "You call that a knife?" 

[Wylson]

Mike Love question - when did Mike record Hungry Heart?

[Andrew G. Doe]

Mike Love question - when did Mike record Hungry Heart?

Well, the Bruce tribute album it was on was released May 2001, so... before then. 

[punkinhead]

Mike Love question - when did Mike record Hungry Heart?

Well, the Bruce tribute album it was on was released May 2001, so... before then. 

When hearing this, it made me realise how much Getcha Back sounds like Hungry Heart...hmmm, is that Mike being influenced/inspired or stealing?   But if it's stealing, would it be in the same ballpark as Brian taking Sweet Little Sixteen and turning it into Surfin' USA?

[punkinhead]

I've heard like 4 different versions of Almost Summer, there's the demo with Brian's voice, the version on the soundtrack, a version with what I thought had Mike's regular version with Brian's voice added in, and then what seems like an adult version of Almost Summer with lyrics that kinda match the song, I don't care for it much....but my question is about that last version I mentioned, what's up with it? Why and when was it recorded? I'd look on AGD's website but I dont know what to look for besides Almost Summer, would it be alternative version?

[Andrew G. Doe]

I've heard like 4 different versions of Almost Summer, there's the demo with Brian's voice, the version on the soundtrack, a version with what I thought had Mike's regular version with Brian's voice added in, and then what seems like an adult version of Almost Summer with lyrics that kinda match the song, I don't care for it much....but my question is about that last version I mentioned, what's up with it? Why and when was it recorded? I'd look on AGD's website but I dont know what to look for besides Almost Summer, would it be alternative version?

Mike & Celebration recorded a lot - maybe two dozen - custom versions for various radio stations around the US: I've got WMMS Cleveland, KFRC San Francisco and KRTH Los Angeles (the latter pressed up on a legit promo 45). A Detroit version has also been confirmed.

Also, the actual movie soundtrack version has different lyrics referring to the plotline: Almost Summer opening creduts

[BillA]

Oh, I know where Mike was going with "Bachelor of bullets", but it was just the wrong tone for the song. As I mentioned above, that line in particular manages to demean the victims of the incident. Overall, it's kind of a mushy viewpoint; you really can't tell if Love thought the National Guard shooting students was a good thing or a bad thing.

well, the same can be said for the single version of "Revolution".

[BillA]

Mike Love question - when did Mike record Hungry Heart?

Well, the Bruce tribute album it was on was released May 2001, so... before then. 

When hearing this, it made me realise how much Getcha Back sounds like Hungry Heart...hmmm, is that Mike being influenced/inspired or stealing?   But if it's stealing, would it be in the same ballpark as Brian taking Sweet Little Sixteen and turning it into Surfin' USA?

i remember reading a review of "The River" that discussed how the Beach Boys infoenced "Hungry Heart"

[drbeachboy]

My interprepation of the song is: Student Demonstartion= Peaceful and OK, but once the police arrive and violence and rioting begins, then stay away or maybe get yourself killed. In hindsight it seems like sound advice.

EDIT: Also in hindsight, I think they should have just recorded it under the original title with the original lyrics, as they had been playing it in concert before the album release.

[BillA]

On the French Beach Boys documentary from 1970 Ed Carter just plays tamborine when Bruce is on bass.  My assumption is that what happened until bruce left the band.  Why didn't he play guitar?

[punkinhead]

My interprepation of the song is: Student Demonstartion= Peaceful and OK, but once the police arrive and violence and rioting begins, then stay away or maybe get yourself killed. In hindsight it seems like sound advice.

EDIT: Also in hindsight, I think they should have just recorded it under the original title with the original lyrics, as they had been playing it in concert before the album release.

and in the case of having to do with this subject, it doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the album, lyrically or musically...in my opinion, this should have been a b-side to Long Promised Road or something...and maybe a concert staple after that.

[drbeachboy]

My interprepation of the song is: Student Demonstartion= Peaceful and OK, but once the police arrive and violence and rioting begins, then stay away or maybe get yourself killed. In hindsight it seems like sound advice.

EDIT: Also in hindsight, I think they should have just recorded it under the original title with the original lyrics, as they had been playing it in concert before the album release.

and in the case of having to do with this subject, it doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the album, lyrically or musically...in my opinion, this should have been a b-side to Long Promised Road or something...and maybe a concert staple after that.

and the subject of the album musically & lyrically is? As far as I'm concerned, SU is all over the place on both fronts.

[bsten]

Hey! A couple of questions:

1) I recall reading somewhere that they (the BB's) borrowed from a 50's jazz tune when making "Transcendental Meditation".
True or false?

2) Where can I find a copy of the booklet about the recording of Holland issued same year? (real or pdf...)

Thanks!

/Bengt

[drbeachboy]

Surf' Up is a mellow album. except for SDT, but I can say that about Friends until TM. So, it's not like they don't have a history of putting the out of place song in the track list.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Hey! A couple of questions:

1) I recall reading somewhere that they (the BB's) borrowed from a 50's jazz tune when making "Transcendental Meditation".
True or false?

2) Where can I find a copy of the booklet about the recording of Holland issued same year? (real or pdf...)

Thanks!

/Bengt

Can't help with 1), but for 2), go here - The Flames - click on "Holland" in the left hand frame and scroll down almost to the bottom. It's not a .pdf, but the text is all there.

[bsten]

Can't help with 1), but for 2), go here - The Flames - click on "Holland" in the left hand frame and scroll down almost to the bottom. It's not a .pdf, but the text is all there.

This IS indeed a great place! Thanks Andrew!!!
I once had this booklet but unfortunately I sold it...
How stupid can you get... ;/

/B

[bgas]

Can't help with 1), but for 2), go here - The Flames - click on "Holland" in the left hand frame and scroll down almost to the bottom. It's not a .pdf, but the text is all there.

This IS indeed a great place! Thanks Andrew!!!
I once had this booklet but unfortunately I sold it...
How stupid can you get... ;/

/B

Or, you could try the BEST Beach Boys website there is, and look in the media section.  
THIS one, of course.
Kinda amazing that people don't look around here more, before going elsewhere

[smile-holland]

Can't help with 1), but for 2), go here - The Flames - click on "Holland" in the left hand frame and scroll down almost to the bottom. It's not a .pdf, but the text is all there.

This IS indeed a great place! Thanks Andrew!!!
I once had this booklet but unfortunately I sold it...
How stupid can you get... ;/

/B

Or, you could try the BEST Beach Boys website there is, and look in the media section.  
THIS one, of course.
Kinda amazing that people don't look around here more, before going elsewhere

...and bgas was so anxious to mention this that he completely forgot to add the link   

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,10243.msg186627.html#msg186627

[bgas]

Can't help with 1), but for 2), go here - The Flames - click on "Holland" in the left hand frame and scroll down almost to the bottom. It's not a .pdf, but the text is all there.

This IS indeed a great place! Thanks Andrew!!!
I once had this booklet but unfortunately I sold it...
How stupid can you get... ;/

/B

Or, you could try the BEST Beach Boys website there is, and look in the media section.  
THIS one, of course.
Kinda amazing that people don't look around here more, before going elsewhere

...and bgas was so anxious to mention this that he completely forgot to add the link   

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,10243.msg186627.html#msg186627

nah, not so anxious;  I think if people look around a bit, they might see more stuff what interests them. Let em do a bit of hunting on their own

[punkinhead]

My interprepation of the song is: Student Demonstartion= Peaceful and OK, but once the police arrive and violence and rioting begins, then stay away or maybe get yourself killed. In hindsight it seems like sound advice.

EDIT: Also in hindsight, I think they should have just recorded it under the original title with the original lyrics, as they had been playing it in concert before the album release.

and in the case of having to do with this subject, it doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the album, lyrically or musically...in my opinion, this should have been a b-side to Long Promised Road or something...and maybe a concert staple after that.

and the subject of the album musically & lyrically is? As far as I'm concerned, SU is all over the place on both fronts.

I honestly think it's a mellow (as someone said earlier) sound about rising and falling of man...now Surf's Up being up there with Til I Die & Day in the Life of a tree all favor a man's darkside and thought on life or lack there of. The first half of the album is more of the lighter/mellow side (besides dont go near)...I think the whole album could be an album all about Brian (besides SDT):
-Don't Go Near the Water- Brian's ecological outlook on the environment (the smog speech comes to mind)
-Long Promised Road- If I'm remembering correctly, Carl wrote this for Brian? This song's lyrics are totally fitting towards Brian...."from a SMiLE to a FRoWN"
-Take a Load off Your your Feet- particularly written by Brian and Al, (and Gary Winfrey), this shows Brian's humor side and could be considered part of the "health" material he likes to write about...hell, Brian took a load off his feet for a couple of years, didn't he?
-Disney Girls- Not saying Bruce wrote this for Brian, but it could lead one to think about Brian getting nostalgic about "how things used to be."
-Student Demonstration Time
-Feel Flows- Carl gets mystical and one would think Brian would eat this song up with it's heavy-spacey-mystical vibe.
-Lookin' at Tomorow- Al bitches about not having much money, much like Paul writing about Apple and Never getting money, just funny paper...So this could also have to do with Brian spending more than he's making on drugs and steaks.
and I think the trilogy of Brian's at the end is pretty self-exclamatory.


But then again, anyone could do this with any album and apply it to Brian in many ways, so I could see some thinkin I'm just BS-ing around...but I love thinkin about this stuff....

If Pet Sounds was a sketchbook about Brian Wilson, Surf's Up was a notebook that was passed around the group to write for Brian....but then again, that could be any of the albums post Wild Honey.

[punkinhead]

Can't help with 1), but for 2), go here - The Flames - click on "Holland" in the left hand frame and scroll down almost to the bottom. It's not a .pdf, but the text is all there.

This IS indeed a great place! Thanks Andrew!!!
I once had this booklet but unfortunately I sold it...
How stupid can you get... ;/

/B

Or, you could try the BEST Beach Boys website there is, and look in the media section.  
THIS one, of course.
Kinda amazing that people don't look around here more, before going elsewhere

...and bgas was so anxious to mention this that he completely forgot to add the link   

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,10243.msg186627.html#msg186627

nah, not so anxious;  I think if people look around a bit, they might see more stuff what interests them. Let em do a bit of hunting on their own

IDK what I want more, an original Smile booklet or an original Holland booklet....
How many did they make of the Holland book?
Where would one find either one of these and how good are my chances of finding at least one of them in my lifetime?

[rab2591]

Can't help with 1), but for 2), go here - The Flames - click on "Holland" in the left hand frame and scroll down almost to the bottom. It's not a .pdf, but the text is all there.

This IS indeed a great place! Thanks Andrew!!!
I once had this booklet but unfortunately I sold it...
How stupid can you get... ;/

/B

Or, you could try the BEST Beach Boys website there is, and look in the media section.  
THIS one, of course.
Kinda amazing that people don't look around here more, before going elsewhere

...and bgas was so anxious to mention this that he completely forgot to add the link   

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,10243.msg186627.html#msg186627

I feel sorry for the one who visits that page using dial-up

[bgas]

IDK what I want more, an original Smile booklet or an original Holland booklet....
How many did they make of the Holland book?
Where would one find either one of these and how good are my chances of finding at least one of them in my lifetime?

You can probably find a Holland book if you search enough. They show up now and then. 
For an original SMiLE booklet, I'd imagine you'll have to wait for someone that has one to pass, or someone selling their collection, or someone that needs $$ to send their son named Brian to college...

I feel sorry for the one who visits that page using dial-up

NOBODY still has Dial-up, do they?