MOJO Special Spolier

[Mooger Fooger]

OK I just put on the 45 to hear what exactly was done to the tracks. Cabinessence is as mentioned a mono mix. I'm leaning towards either a right only or left only channel fold-down to mono as it doesn't exhibit the electronic double tracking effect you hear if you do a fold-down mix to mono of the 20/20 version (or on the stereo 20/20 track if you simply play it as is on the album in stereo). There is no discernable addition on or processing of the track other than what is mentioned above.

Wonderful is the cleanest, non-muddiest mix I have heard of the Brian falsetto version. As AGD mentioned there is the "yodle-le-hi-hu" backing vox addition. Other than that the track is the same as the box set version. There were no hidden snippets in the roll.out grooves (at least none before my auto-retract arm mechansim kicked in).

Regarding the articles, I'll agree with everyone else - while they might be great for reeling in new listeners, there were a number of glaring errors which seem to reflect the hurried manner in which they were edited together.

[bgas]

went to Barnes and Noble, but the shelves were filled with the old issue.  Said they get deliveries on Monday and Thursday, and maybe it would be in there.
But really the guy seemed less than bright, so it's anyone's guess when a new MOJO may show up here.  

So, I went again today, and they have a new MOJO issue, but NO 60's special; and of course they're less than knowledgable as to whether they'll even be getting copies. Called Borders and they offered much the same info. "Good Luck!" she said. 

So I wonder where usens in the USA can buy it...( if at all, other than mail-order) 

I do expect to see it in Borders and Barnes & Noble, but it wouldn't surprise me if it doesn't show up in those stores for another 3 or 4 weeks.  At this point, though, I'm not sure I still care very much.  From all accounts, the issue is a disappointment, and the Cab/Wonderful 45 is pretty much the only reason to bother with it.  The 45 is a nice collectible, and I might grab one if I see it.  If not, the same tracks will undoubtedly be on our forthcoming CDs.

well, yeah; the only reason I want it is for the 45! I can tell I've already read all I need to from the issue.  
I wonder if the recordings will actually be on the Smile Sessions when it finally hits the stores...

[drbeachboy]

It says right on the yellow 45 "From the forthcoming Capitol release "The Smile Sessions"". I would tend to think both will be on one of the discs.

[seanmurd]

OK I just put on the 45 to hear what exactly was done to the tracks. Cabinessence is as mentioned a mono mix. I'm leaning towards either a right only or left only channel fold-down to mono as it doesn't exhibit the electronic double tracking effect you hear if you do a fold-down mix to mono of the 20/20 version (or on the stereo 20/20 track if you simply play it as is on the album in stereo). There is no discernable addition on or processing of the track other than what is mentioned above.

Have you compared Mike's "over and over" vocals on the MOJO single to the same vocals on the 20/20 version -- ANY of them, whether the stereo mix, a straight fold-down, or a left/right extraction? There is absolutely SOMETHING discernable going on there...

[Andrew G. Doe]

It says right on the yellow 45 "From the forthcoming Capitol release "The Smile Sessions"". I would tend to think both will be on one of the discs.

... or might be one of the 45s in the box.

[bgas]

It says right on the yellow 45 "From the forthcoming Capitol release "The Smile Sessions"". I would tend to think both will be on one of the discs.

... or might be one of the 45s in the box.

I probably need to go back and refresh my memory as to what they're planning to be included; it seems like thousands of posts ago...

[Mooger Fooger]

OK I just put on the 45 to hear what exactly was done to the tracks. Cabinessence is as mentioned a mono mix. I'm leaning towards either a right only or left only channel fold-down to mono as it doesn't exhibit the electronic double tracking effect you hear if you do a fold-down mix to mono of the 20/20 version (or on the stereo 20/20 track if you simply play it as is on the album in stereo). There is no discernable addition on or processing of the track other than what is mentioned above.

Have you compared Mike's "over and over" vocals on the MOJO single to the same vocals on the 20/20 version -- ANY of them, whether the stereo mix, a straight fold-down, or a left/right extraction? There is absolutely SOMETHING discernable going on there...

I did notice it being clearly from a different session (ie 66 rather than 68 vintage), but any major remixing - no. To these ears it just sounds less cluttered due to the missing ADT effect.

[seanmurd]

It says right on the yellow 45 "From the forthcoming Capitol release "The Smile Sessions"". I would tend to think both will be on one of the discs.

... or might be one of the 45s in the box.

Since you've mentioned it, Andrew -- do you have any clue what IS going to be on the "bonus" vinyl singles in the box set? Any chance it will be the RSD 78? Because I've still got mine sealed, in case I'm going to get the same thing in the box....

[Andrew G. Doe]

It says right on the yellow 45 "From the forthcoming Capitol release "The Smile Sessions"". I would tend to think both will be on one of the discs.

... or might be one of the 45s in the box.

Since you've mentioned it, Andrew -- do you have any clue what IS going to be on the "bonus" vinyl singles in the box set? Any chance it will be the RSD 78? Because I've still got mine sealed, in case I'm going to get the same thing in the box....

That might be the other 45.

Truthfully, I have no idea.

[manmancer]

I know I'm late to the party. Majorly. But if someone could help me out on that front, I'd greatly appreciate it. Turntable-less.:-(

[hypehat]

Love the inscription on the run-out groove on the single " this doesn't have to be perfect "

Just noticed that that's on Side A. On Side B, there's ' "It just has to be honest" - BW '   

[Shady]

Been looking for the Mojo special everywhere in Dublin but nobody has it yet so I caved and bought a copy on eBay..

The seller seems to be making a bomb from them, 10 copies selling out everyday

[Custom Machine]

Been looking for the Mojo special everywhere in Dublin but nobody has it yet so I caved and bought a copy on eBay..

The seller seems to be making a bomb from them, 10 copies selling out everyday

It can also be ordered direct from Mojo:  http://www.mojo4music.com/blog/2011/06/smile_its_mojo_60s.html

[runnersdialzero]

I suppose that much of the production of it at least was finished in 1971. Apparently Brian came up with 'A childeren's song, won't you listen as they play...' on the spot.

He was said to have presented it, not came up with it. No real way to know if it's from 66/67 or if it's from 71.

[runnersdialzero]

Wonderful is the cleanest, non-muddiest mix I have heard of the Brian falsetto version. As AGD mentioned there is the "yodle-le-hi-hu" backing vox addition. Other than that the track is the same as the box set version. There were no hidden snippets in the roll.out grooves (at least none before my auto-retract arm mechansim kicked in).

Anyone else think the backing vocals on this mix are ridiculously loud?

[STE]

Wonderful is the cleanest, non-muddiest mix I have heard of the Brian falsetto version. As AGD mentioned there is the "yodle-le-hi-hu" backing vox addition. Other than that the track is the same as the box set version. There were no hidden snippets in the roll.out grooves (at least none before my auto-retract arm mechansim kicked in).

Anyone else think the backing vocals on this mix are ridiculously loud?

Yep, me.

[Jim V.]

Could somebody Put Me in the position to be able to hear the new "Wonderful" and "Cabin Essence" mixes?

[Mahalo]

Wonderful is the cleanest, non-muddiest mix I have heard of the Brian falsetto version. As AGD mentioned there is the "yodle-le-hi-hu" backing vox addition. Other than that the track is the same as the box set version. There were no hidden snippets in the roll.out grooves (at least none before my auto-retract arm mechansim kicked in).

Anyone else think the backing vocals on this mix are ridiculously loud?

Refuse to listen to new Wonderful till box set comes out, but if indeed it is more audible than every other mashed up version I heard, I will be in 7th heaven...too loud or not.

[Mahalo]

Am I the only one who does not want to hear any of this stuff until the whole package is released?  I haven't listened to any Smile music since the announcement was made, because I want to be as blown away as is possible when I put CD1 into my player and hit |>.  

Lost Art I am totally with ya...this is going to kick such ass when it is released.

[runnersdialzero]

Wonderful is the cleanest, non-muddiest mix I have heard of the Brian falsetto version. As AGD mentioned there is the "yodle-le-hi-hu" backing vox addition. Other than that the track is the same as the box set version. There were no hidden snippets in the roll.out grooves (at least none before my auto-retract arm mechansim kicked in).

Anyone else think the backing vocals on this mix are ridiculously loud?

Refuse to listen to new Wonderful till box set comes out, but if indeed it is more audible than every other mashed up version I heard, I will be in 7th heaven...too loud or not.

They're *too* loud, though. I mean it's an interesting listen, but if this is the mix intended for the best-they-can-do-with-what-they-have "album", then it's a tad disappointing.

[Chocolate Shake Man]

Wonderful is the cleanest, non-muddiest mix I have heard of the Brian falsetto version. As AGD mentioned there is the "yodle-le-hi-hu" backing vox addition. Other than that the track is the same as the box set version. There were no hidden snippets in the roll.out grooves (at least none before my auto-retract arm mechansim kicked in).

Anyone else think the backing vocals on this mix are ridiculously loud?

Refuse to listen to new Wonderful till box set comes out, but if indeed it is more audible than every other mashed up version I heard, I will be in 7th heaven...too loud or not.

They're *too* loud, though. I mean it's an interesting listen, but if this is the mix intended for the best-they-can-do-with-what-they-have "album", then it's a tad disappointing.

Ugh, I can hardly wait for criticism like this to inundate us after the box set is released.

[Jim V.]

Z-share sucks. It won't work for me....anybody wanna send something in the PM not thru z-share?

[bsten]

Anyone else think the backing vocals on this mix are ridiculously loud?

They're *too* loud, though. I mean it's an interesting listen, but if this is the mix intended for the best-they-can-do-with-what-they-have "album", then it's a tad disappointing.
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Agree! Strange mix indeed. What if the box set comes out and we all go: "oh nooooo"...

[Andrew G. Doe]

Anyone else think the backing vocals on this mix are ridiculously loud?

They're *too* loud, though. I mean it's an interesting listen, but if this is the mix intended for the best-they-can-do-with-what-they-have "album", then it's a tad disappointing.

Agree! Strange mix indeed. What if the box set comes out and we all go: "oh nooooo"...
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No one noticed that the lead, in fact the whole song, is also louder ?  It's a new mastering job, not a mix as is commonly understood. The 1993 box set version sounds lo-fi compared to this.

Still, I'm sure when Mark reads this - and he will - your 'comments' will be taken on board and duly processed. 

[The Heartical Don]

Anyone else think the backing vocals on this mix are ridiculously loud?

They're *too* loud, though. I mean it's an interesting listen, but if this is the mix intended for the best-they-can-do-with-what-they-have "album", then it's a tad disappointing.

Agree! Strange mix indeed. What if the box set comes out and we all go: "oh nooooo"...

No one noticed that the lead, in fact the whole song, is also louder ?  It's a new mastering job, not a mix as is commonly understood. The 1993 box set version sounds lo-fi compared to this.

Still, I'm sure when Mark reads this - and he will - your 'comments' will be taken on board and duly processed. 
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Then I hope that Mark does NOT read this forum. Because by sheer logic, on can deduce that the box will never see the light of day, what with all us grumpy, complaining, obsessive 'to each his own' types. It's simply never right with us. If push came to shove, we'd be able to get all BBs stuff taken from the market altogether, for 'extended revision for ever'.