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1  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Peter Tork died! on: March 13, 2019, 07:38:43 PM
When The Monkees was on TV Peter was my favorite.
Peter is the best of the bunch, glad to see he's your favorite too. They usually pick Nesmith. But Peter's really likeable & fun. Talented to boot, actually his Monkees songs would be few songs I cared about in Monkees' albums, save few by different writers. Peter should be given praises.
I met 3 of them - Micky, Davy and Peter. I could have met Mike if i'd coughed up an extra $50. Mike is all about himself; Peter, on the other hand, was very kind, generous. Making music was his life. Saw him with Shoe Suede Blues back in 2001, loved the show. Amazing musicians.
2  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Jerry Lee Lewis suffers stroke on: March 13, 2019, 07:36:32 PM
Well, he's outlived nearly all of them - Berry, , Diddley, Presley, Perkins, Cash, Orbison; Little Richard is alive, but not performing anymore. Don Everly is still around, but retired. I seriously think JLL is going to outlive them all. At this rate, he'll cut a new album at 90, and headline Albert Hall at 100.
3  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Elvis Presley on: March 13, 2019, 07:33:59 PM
A digital single for the RSD release is coming out!


Suspicious Minds (Live in Las Vegas, NV - August 1969 - Single Edit)
hoping there will be a vinyl single, too


Mystery Train / Tiger Man (Live in Las Vegas, NV - August 1969 - Single Edit)
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Good Timin' w. Dennis lead vocal- what show is this from? on: March 13, 2019, 07:32:37 PM
They rehearsed it for "Midnight Special", but did not perform it on the actual show. My understanding is that the rehearsal is the origin of this audio recording. The comment about Dennis signing it because Carl was too scared was something Dennis said onstage before he sang it at the Radio City Music Hall that March (I think he might have said "too shy" or something to that effect).
It puzzles me why this song wasn't performed live more often. My guess is that, vocally, it's near the bottom of Carl's range, and maybe he found it difficult to sing live.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What Happened to jeffrey Foskett?? on: March 13, 2019, 07:30:48 PM
It seems he's not here anymore...
well that would be a real drag; I am going to see Mike and crew at the fair this summer.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Medley b/w live Runaway 1981 - 45 rpm single on: March 13, 2019, 07:29:47 PM
is the sunkist lp just a comp or is this a live concert?
It's a comp featuring Beach Boys Medley, Getcha Back, Rock 'N' Roll to the Rescue, California Dreamin', and a few of the oldies.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: No Endless Summer on: March 13, 2019, 07:28:37 PM
<<One of their greatest hits albums would have become big on the charts again as the mood of the country shifted in the 1970's and the younger generation embraced the music of the group.>>

Having become a fan during that time, I would disagree.  That new generation of teenagers (which I was a part of), had to be reminded who the Beach Boys were.  They weren't on our radar.  In 1974 we knew who the Beatles were but frequently got mixed up between the Bee Gees and the Beach Boys.  A couple of "B" groups.  I remember in 1973 being schooled in Sunday School class that the Bee Gees were cool.  The Beach Boys were not.  There were budget line albums available but nothing really on our radar.  I remember Beach Baby on the radio and thinking that must be The Beach Boys.  The genius of Endless Summer is that it wasn't packaged as a Greatest Hits collection.  It was simply packaged as a new Beach Boys album.  Carefully, yet seemingly randomly programmed, unlike the 1976 Brit collection 20 Golden Greats, which was chronological.  It wasn't marketed to original Beach Boys fans... the ones who bought Holland.  It was marketed to a new batch of teens - a new audience.  In the late 1970s I had a conversation with Dean Torrence about this.  He thought it was brilliant marketing, selling the  Beach Boys as something new.  He said it was precisely why his own 1972 Jan & Dean Anthology Album didn't sell as well.  It was automatically marked as "old."  Dean tried the Endless Summer approach with his own Gotta Take That One Last Ride set.  J&D classics sold simply as fun in the sun music, not greatest hits.  However, he was stuck on the UA label and they only spent about a thousand bucks... nothing near Capitol's massive ad campaign for Endless Summer.  People forget that Endless Summer was a phenomenon.  It was on the top 100 charts for years.  When I went to college as a freshman in 1977 the two albums everybody owned were Endless Summer and Dark Side of the Moon.

I don't doubt that. I often look at the online Billboard magazine archives, and it's amazing to see what a chart run Endless Summer had. #1 in 1974, still in the top 100 in 75, along with Spirit of America and Good Vibrations - Best of the Beach Boys. In fact, Spirit of America shipped gold. But it's chart run was brief compared to Endless Sumer. Most of the big 62-65 hits had already been used on ES, SOA had Dance, Dance, Dance, Do You Wanna Dance, 409 and Barbara Ann, but mostly it was album tracks like Hawaii, Please Let Me Wonder, and Hushabye. A good collection, but no match for ES. GV had some major hits on it - God Only Knows, Wouldn't it Be Nice, Sloop John B, Sail on Sailor - so it's puzzling why it topped out at #25.
ES was still in the top 200 throughout 1976.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New movie Charlie Says, with Dennis, Gregg Jakobson and Terry Melcher on: March 13, 2019, 07:20:25 PM
Great God Almighty! When are people going to stop talking about this POS? He's dead now, and I say, let him stay dead!
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: No Endless Summer on: March 08, 2019, 10:02:07 PM
I think they were running out of ideas after Holland. For that matter, Holland was not an easy album to make.  Wink So, in a way, Endless Summer helped camouflage a thin period creatively. I think they needed a couple years break from recording. I'd like to think, though, that without Endless Summer and Spirit of America, Carl and Dennis could have kept the group making mature musical statements, instead of the retro stuff the group went for when Brian returned.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: California Calling on: March 05, 2019, 09:38:59 PM
I thought "It's Gettin' Late" was a gutsy choice to followup "Getcha Back" because it didn't have that retro Beach Boys sound. I recall hearing it on the radio quite a bit, but maybe it was too far from the BB's formula sound to catch on.
One of our local AC stations played "Givin' You Up" a lot in the summer of 83. I thought it would become a hit. I loved the Youngblood album. Boring? Not at all. It doesn't sound anything like the Beach Boys, though, maybe that's why some fans still don't like it. Brian's solo albums sound like Beach Boys albums without their voices on  them; Carl went for a completely different sound. "Heaven" and "What You Do to Me" are the only ones that sound slightly Beach Boyish.
And yes, Carl did sing "Givin' You Up" at the few solo shows he did in 83 - I was at one of them.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: California Calling on: February 28, 2019, 06:17:44 PM
Is it possible that it was in the queue to be the next single? I base this on the end of the Video for It's Getting Late, where Brian picks up the shell and hears the song. Maybe the momentum had died too early for CC.
That would be my guess. The hype sticker on the album listed Getcha Back, California Calling, and one other song...might have been It's Gettin' Late. Instead, they went for She Believes in Love Again, and it didn't do a thing.
12  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: White Album - Single Album on: February 06, 2019, 11:39:49 PM
I personally don't have the attention span for a double album.  I'm not ashamed to admit that I would find single album versions of White Album, Physical Graffiti, Tommy, and the Wall more appealing. 
Sadly, as i get older, i find my attention span is going, too. I used to sit glued to the record player, as Bob spewed out all 120 verses of Desolation Row, Hurricane, or Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts. Now my mind starts to wander after 2 minutes and 30 seconds.
Keep it short and sweet. Straight to the point.
Maybe that's why i am going back to more 50's/mid 60's music these days. If your single ran over 3 minutes, it was less likely to get played.
Unless it was Like a Rolling Stone or Hey Jude.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The 5 Most Underrated Music Artists Of The 70's and 80's on: February 06, 2019, 11:30:48 PM
Marshall Crenshaw put out great record after great record in the '80s and never had the sales to show for it.
That's true. I didn't collect many 80's artists, but I have every one of the albums he put out through 1991.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Remembering Carl on: February 06, 2019, 11:29:19 PM
I saw the Beach Boys for the first time in 1978, an outdoor show - in the rain - with the Kinks also on the bill. Saw them again in 1983,84,85,86,87,88, and 91. Each time, it was Carl that blew me away with his singing and guitar playing. I remember at the 84 show, he sang "Heaven" and dedicated it to Dennis. As I recall, many people were holding their lighters up...and some may have even had candles. Long time ago, but it was a memorable moment - also when he sang "God Only Knows" at that show.
At the time, I was wondering if the casual fans who attended these shows even knew who Brian was. I only saw him with the group twice - 83 and 85. I think the casual fans just thought of the Beach Boys as the guys they saw on stage year after year - Carl, Dennis, Mike, Al and Bruce.
15  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Phil Everly, RIP. on: January 28, 2019, 01:32:59 PM
Thanks for that, Rocker!!!  Everly Brothers are incredible, gotta get their "Roots" album if you want to hear them at their best.

I'm not too fond of the "Roots" album. It features some great songs, a cool cover of "You done me wrong" (one of my favorite country songs), but imo it's trying too hard. I rather listen to "Pass the chicken & listen" and some of the earlier things like "Rock'n Soul", "Beat 'n Soul" and "Sing great country hits".
"Roots" is one of those albums - like POB - that was praised to the skies by a lot of writers, but when i finally heard it, it didn't live up to expectations. In fact, i bought it at Tower Records in 1990 as an import, along with "Two Yanks In England", and it was the latter album that impressed me more. There was this myth perpetrated by the rock historians that the Ev's made great records until they moved over to Warners in 1960, but as i began collecting the albums, i found much to like about the music they made in the years they were eclipsed by the British Invasion.
'Pass the Chicken and Listen" is another great album that i didn't expect much from. I figured, from all i had read, that Don and Phil were tired of each other by that time, but if they were, it doesn't show on the album.
16  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: CCR 50th anniversary on: January 28, 2019, 01:28:04 PM
It's to bad that they can't quit acting like children long enough to do a show or two. Hell, I'll take just a single song with all three of them.

Well, in a 2015 documentary they kinda did play together, although not in a room at the same time but via headphones and overdubbing. It seems the video isn't available anymore, but if you can find it, check it out, it's this documentary:

On another note, after watching the new "Fortunate son" and "Have you ever seen the rain?" videos, I'm shocked by the attempt to a) act like these where you're typical love songs and b) the misguided idea to try to curry favor with the conservative "Nashville-establishment" concept; but unfortunately, John's last solo outings seem to go into a similar direction. In that sense he really disappoints me as he was one of the people who I thought wouldn't go down that route.
Well, he also insisted long ago he was not going to ever become an oldies act, but I guess he found out that, at his age, that's all people want from him.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love of the Beach Boys Presents The Girls of Kokomo..... on: January 09, 2019, 11:24:38 PM
I'm thinking the teachers are all scantily clad beauties willing to "teach me tonight".
18  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Brian's live perfomances on: January 07, 2019, 11:50:20 PM
The reviewers all tend to agree that the band is excellent, Al sounds great, and there are a lot more Blondie fans out there than I would have imagined. But they are still being billed as Brian Wilson concerts. I agree that Brian shouldn't be pushed into touring if he has lost interest. I never think of Brian as a guy that needs to be onstage - his domain was always the studio.
19  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles on: January 07, 2019, 11:46:50 PM
Save the main melody riff, IATM is boring to the fault.
I am usually partial to any GH songs on the Beatles albums, but I agree, this is one of his lesser efforts.
20  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Top 10 Songs By Different Artists or Bands on: January 07, 2019, 11:45:47 PM
1- Look What You've Done
2- The Guitar Man
3 - Make it With You
4 - Mother Freedom
5 - Too Much Love
6 - Let Your Love Go
7 - She's the Only One
8 - It Don't Matter to Me
9 - Games of Magic
10 - Diary
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Happy Birthday Carl on: December 22, 2018, 01:38:29 PM
Still my favorite Beach Boy. And I have to think that if he were around for C50, things would have ended much nicer. He was the glue that kept these guys together.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: December 14, 2018, 09:58:49 PM
Kokomo for Brian's last show LOL I would love to see that band cover 'Summer of Love' as a joke. That thought got me thinking about Brian's last shows...

My ideal vision for Brian's final tour:

Brian's Rock&Roll album is completed, original name of the album Pleasure Island is used for the final title. On it are covers of his favorite rock and roll songs (the songs that really spoke to him during his most creative times), also on it are some killer originals that he, Al, and Blondie wrote together on tour. Also, the album comes with a bonus EP of an 8 minute finished version of 'Can't Wait Too Long'. But onto the concerts:

The concerts would start with a crazy dark auditorium, and stage is completely dark. You hear Ding Dang faintly and people stop talking as the music gets louder and louder. Brian walks out on stage, walks to his piano and joins in on the song. 4 minutes of Ding Dang that just get more epic with each loop, the Moog is loud as hell, Blondie starts shredding on his guitar, Al joins in with the singing. With absolutely no break, the band dives right into 'God Please Let Us Go On This Way'.

So the final tour would consist of songs from Pleasure Island, a mass of Love You songs, Moog synth accompanies any classic Beach Boys tune. The concession stands sell beer but also steak and cake. Brian's favorite deli would go on the tour and cater for the band. Also, Brian would sit in his leather recliner during the songs he doesn't sing lead on.

It would be a party Rock! w00t! Drinking Buddies! Who gives a hoot if Brian's voice isn't perfect that night? He is up there having a blast because these are the songs he wants to perform for the masses.

Oh I hope such a tour will happen.
You have just put into words my vision of hell.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: November 05, 2018, 01:37:23 PM
I listened to the interview and thought Valvano did all he could to get Brian to talk. It was pretty obvious to me that Brian just doesn't like doing these interviews anymore. Everyone asks him the same old tired questions, and he's bored with it. Bob Dylan hates interviews, but at least he'll say something just to get a reaction out of people. Brian should not have to do this stuff anymore. I'm not even sure he should be touring at this stage, but I accept that's how he's going to spend the rest of his life - it pays the bills. But stop the interviews, I don't think these things are going to get more people out to the shows.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Love & Stamos on Jimmy Kimmel 10/31 on: October 30, 2018, 11:09:28 PM
Love and Stamos is what you need tonight. *shudder*
Exactly what I thought when I saw the thread title.

Love and Stamos to you and your friends tonight.

I was lyin' in bed when the two came on tv,
a lot of people out there surfin'
and it really scares me
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis' Voice 1980-1981 on: October 27, 2018, 12:09:51 AM
I don't hear Dennis at all in What You Do To Me, but if I put the dvd into my other dvd player I use as a "CD player" and turn the volume up a bit, I can hear Dennis rather enthusiastically congratulating Carl after the song ends. It's quite touching, if a bit sad because his voice is so hoarse you can't quite make out what he says. By the way, you can actually hear(and see) Dennis saying "Are you ready?" before the show starts.
The way that show started, with each of the Beach Boys being driven onto the field, and over to the stage, made for a very long introduction. I think Dennis was getting impatient at waiting for the other guys to get there. IIRC, Dennis and Mike were up there first, Brian and Carl were last.
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