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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Has Ricky Fataar had any solo releases on: February 04, 2020, 06:53:11 AM
Hello! I collect the extended family tree, and I am always on the look-out for more stuff. Has Ricky had any solo releases? Maybe in South Africa? Or has he always drummed for others?

I actually caught him live once, drumming for Bonnie Raitt.

Y'know, I've never really thought about this, but I think the closest would be his contributions to The Rutles in 1978 (and I suppose their "Archeaology" release from '96 or so, though I've yet to acquire that), although the recently-passed Neil Innes wrote those songs. Ricky played guitar, bass, sitar, and had one or two lead vocals in there.

He was also one half of the somewhat more obscure Rutles spin-off Dirk & Stig, who recorded this single:
https://www.discogs.com/Dirk-Stig-Ging-Gang-Goolie/release/2459737

(I've also seen him with Bonnie Raitt.  Clearly quite a popular means of Fataar-spotting.)
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Holy Man Record Store Day on: April 21, 2019, 02:25:23 AM
Never a fan of Queen, I expected to despise this but surprised myself by mostly enjoying it quite a lot, nonsensical guitar solo and all, until it reached the godforsaken ending which sounds like it comes from a Cliff Richard Christmas song.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1968 On Tour Set now available in U.K. on: January 27, 2019, 11:40:29 PM
Please post confirmation that it is indeed now for sale on the UK site. I had asked Capitol to look into the issue and want to make sure the problem has been fixed.

Thanks

Confirmed sighting with audible samples on Amazon UK.  (It's more expensive than in the States; £45.89 compared to $56.49 which converts to £42.87.  I blame Brexit.)
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile Message Board Milestone - And General Words Of Thanks on: December 22, 2018, 03:36:49 AM
But I'm proud to say I didn't pay a dime for them and got them for free online. My principle is, if certain names are attached and others left off of any project related to the Beach Boys, I don't give them a dime or a penny of my money. Best money I never spent.

It is becoming so incredibly difficult to get the corporate support that enables these highly specialized niche oriented projects to happen at all. Proudly stating that you won't pay a dime for a project because I acknowledged AGD for historical research in the special thanks isn't just a matter of availing yourself of the YouTube option. It feels more like a sort of boycott.  And this time it hurts a little, because (as you may have noticed), there is no promotion for this year's stack of tracks. We're hoping and praying that people who appreciate the hard work that goes into these projects will support that work by buying copies/downloads and proving to Universal Music that there is a market for this kind of Beach Boys archival collection.

The attention and feedback you all have given over the years has been inspiring. As for the stuff between the message boards and whatever it is we stepped in that made you decide to not actually purchase our latest work.... I don't know what to say to that. I hope you'll change your mind, because we need all the help we can get out here.

Thank you very much for all of your dedication and hard work, Alan.  I'll admit I hadn't got around to purchasing this set yet but if the above is true then I have no excuses.  Consider it sold.

I appreciate the hard work, Alan, both you and Mark have been a Godsend to the fans and your persistence in getting this material out and love for the material itself...we're blessed to have you where you are, doing what you do! I'd never, ever suggest anything less.

I understand where it would hurt, but I would ask in return that you also understand how bad things were on a personal level between Doe and people I call my friends (and me, too), to where they were being lied about and trashed by a guy using his status as a "historian" to behave that way. And that hurt them, and me too to see what was going on behind the shroud of "insider" Beach Boys circles. There are lines one simply does not cross on basic human decency levels, and in some of these cases, lines were crossed which to this day there have been no apologies or even admissions that things should not have been said or done.

I understand where you're coming from, gf, but I'm a bit bemused that this is the moral line in the sand that you're drawing when we're talking about a collection that contains songs written by three different murderers.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Everyone back together for a Beach Boys Q&A for Sirius XM? on: August 01, 2018, 01:21:10 AM


Stars and Stripes vol. 2
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was Back in the USSR the 1st Beach Boys parody? on: July 26, 2018, 04:19:49 PM
Is there an earlier example of that type of back-and-forth "feud" between artists, where they'd be busting each others' balls with released material making fun of each other?

Happened all the time in, for instance, calypso music.  There were even duets between rival artists attacking each other!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHkoYHqlkfY
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: The Definite Smiley Smile Message Board's Song Ranking - Ranking Process on: July 24, 2018, 04:06:11 PM
Don't comment other people's lists and/or engage in a discussion.

This seems a terribly depressing stipulation to make on a discussion board.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was Back in the USSR the 1st Beach Boys parody? on: July 24, 2018, 04:04:18 PM
Here, from 4:52 to 5:13: "Little Deuce Coupe". "Brown Shoes Don't Make It" was recorded in 1967.     

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZLWD75KKGA


Amazing. I had no idea of this!

... and actually identified as such in the sheet music (arranged for piano by Mother of Invention Ian Underwood):

9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1968: The Beach Boys vs. The Beatles on: January 30, 2018, 01:03:53 PM
Revolution 9 is better than half of Friends. Just saying...

I love you, man.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Can \ on: January 10, 2018, 02:12:10 PM
If I were Mike, I'd remix the damn thing, even if it had to be for my own money.

What the world needs is definitely another remix.  They should keep remixing and re-releasing the album until one sticks!
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Most cringeworthy screenshot from any BBs music video? on: January 10, 2018, 01:49:05 PM
Here’s a heartwarming moment from Rock & Roll to the Rescue.



#MeToo
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: VDP on Twitter on: November 03, 2017, 04:03:03 PM
Oddly enough,  I hadn't tried to slog through discover America

Aw, come on man, you're better than this.  It's a fabulous album and it has Little Feat on it.  I promise you there's no slogging involved.

I think that VDP is extensively misunderstood.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys bring down the roof in OK! on: October 24, 2017, 01:36:25 AM



I'd like to ask Brian Sharp if he thinks there was pitch correction on NPP.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What are some great books detailing the recording of Pet Sounds and Smile? on: October 09, 2017, 09:46:45 AM

One thing in particular puts me off that book, namely the report on p154 about a song called "Ben's Prayer".

I couldn't believe my eyes when I read that. Talk about classless.

But that's a thing that happened.  Why shouldn't a book mention it?

But it does more than mention it----for Priore it's the keynote moment of the evening, "prompting the New York City crowd to scream with delight".

Classless.

Well, maybe it really was the evening's most memorable moment!  It certainly generated a lot of interest for a silly joke song; enough that it's been mentioned on here a few times.  Even some Mike Love fans were entertained!  Trigger warning:

I'm not saying Taylor Mills doesn't have "talent". But she seems out of place on BWPS.

My reference to Ben Vaughn's "Mike Love" song was a joke. I've actually never heard the song, but I met Ben in '87 and he described the lyrics to me. A friend of mine supposedly has a tape of the Folk City BW tribute where Ben performed that song, but I've never heard it.

It's hysterical... very funny.

I don't think it's an unreasonable event to reference in the context of illustrating the relative public perceptions of Wilson and Love in the mid-'80s.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What are some great books detailing the recording of Pet Sounds and Smile? on: October 07, 2017, 11:22:15 AM
What about the book that Domenic Priore did?? I always thought that was good book.

One thing in particular puts me off that book, namely the report on p154 about a song called "Ben's Prayer":

https://books.google.nl/books?id=b-fjAgAAQBAJ&pg=PT187&lpg=PT187&dq=%22tide+had+turned+against+the+beach+boys+inc+and%22&source=bl&ots=70aRudIatY&sig=-23rEoS7891JCI5-CjEY3imVY4A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZ5_Xltt7WAhVELhoKHfXpAWIQ6AEIJjAA#v=onepage&q=%22tide%20had%20turned%20against%20the%20beach%20boys%20inc%20and%22&f=false

I couldn't believe my eyes when I read that. Talk about classless.

But that's a thing that happened.  Why shouldn't a book mention it?
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: October 04, 2017, 04:24:17 PM
Also, who is the "AJR" featured on Darlin'?

Al Jardine's Replacement
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Let's compile a 12 track \ on: September 22, 2017, 02:19:00 PM
I think that mine would probably just be "Passing Friend" 12 times over.  If you disagree, try listening to it twelve times in a row and see how happy you are at the end.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Let's compile a 12 track \ on: September 22, 2017, 02:17:53 PM

Wonderful [Smiley Smile Ver.]


I agree.  The two versions, to me, are like night and day. 

I also agree.  But then again, I have an enormous amount of fun at night.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What does Mike want? on: July 11, 2017, 04:12:28 AM

My humble guess to what he wants is to be regarded in the same light and creative level as Brian Wilson which, if true, pretty much puts the theory that he is a sick man, to bed. He's to a point where jealousy and an insane inferiority complex intermingle and nothing displays it better than the pervasive actions than he exhibits.In spite of all the perks of being a member of an amazing band (not M&B) along with the money was not nearly enough for this individual. He obviously needs to be on top of the heap with the same amount of accolades that Brian has deservedly received, incredible as that may sound! All in all, I'd say he was a very insecure, psychologically sick man.

For all of his many regrettable actions and shortcomings, literally nothing he has done or said over the last 50-something years has suggested this.  In fact, all evidence points to the opposite.  He clearly worships Brian, and has spent his entire musical career putting Brian and Brian's creativity over. 

Well, without getting into the debate of who might be sick, there were things like this that seem to offer an insight of sorts:

Quote
People say the Beatles were John Lennon. What is Paul McCartney? Chopped liver?
(from https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2013/jul/04/beach-boys-mike-love-interview)
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love \ on: July 11, 2017, 04:03:28 AM
Yes, Bruce did well when I saw him, particularly on "Disney Girls" (and "THWFOP").


"Their Hearts Were Full Of...  Protein"?

Yes, of course----Protein! LOL



Printemps Smiley

Rite!
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: July 11, 2017, 04:02:35 AM
Aren't You Glad would have sounded a whole lot better without Brian's falsetto, it doesn't fit.

The theremin opening on Wild Honey is unique, but some other type of instrumental opening would have been better.

Just two of the many available ways of being completely wrong, there.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love \ on: July 10, 2017, 09:52:47 AM
Yes, Bruce did well when I saw him, particularly on "Disney Girls" (and "THWFOP").

"Their Hearts Were Full Of...  Protein"?
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: May 30, 2017, 03:35:11 PM
Then I suppose 2020 might be kinda quiet

If only there were a Beach Boys album crying out for a bit of renewed attention in such a year!
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: May 24, 2017, 08:51:04 AM
Live In Hawaii:  August 1967 (Previously Unreleased)
(The Beach Boys recorded two complete concerts and rehearsals in Honolulu on August 25 and 26, 1967. Brian Wilson rejoined the group onstage for these shows; Bruce Johnston was not present. The following tracks derive from the original 1” 8-track master reels discovered in the Brother Records Archives.)
29. Heroes And Villains (Rehearsal) (4:45)


Hey, wait, hold on.  Forgive me if I've got confused, but could this be the version with the Mike monologue?

The version with the Mike monologue was recorded at Wally Heider's for the recreated "live" album, the rehearsal take is from the actual Hawaii rehearsal, and has been previously released (on the Concert/Live in London 2fer)

Thanks for this.  So, in conclusion, I was indeed confused.  Still, nice to get these things out in the open, eh?
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Wild Honey(Sunshine Tomorrow) 2CD Set? on: May 24, 2017, 02:48:48 AM
Live In Hawaii:  August 1967 (Previously Unreleased)
(The Beach Boys recorded two complete concerts and rehearsals in Honolulu on August 25 and 26, 1967. Brian Wilson rejoined the group onstage for these shows; Bruce Johnston was not present. The following tracks derive from the original 1” 8-track master reels discovered in the Brother Records Archives.)
29. Heroes And Villains (Rehearsal) (4:45)


Hey, wait, hold on.  Forgive me if I've got confused, but could this be the version with the Mike monologue?
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