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76  Smiley Smile Stuff / Smile Sessions Box Set (2011) / Re: TSS - All things Holidays on: November 12, 2011, 05:21:54 AM
I made a mono mix with the fade out from the sessions disc, folded down and faded out. And also a stereo version, edited out the sessions track, with a fade out. I'll make a disc full of this sort of mixes and will post it here later.
77  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE: Bring It On, Fanmixers. on: November 10, 2011, 09:06:02 AM
Another track: Wind Chimes, basic stereo version. I downloaded a lossless vinyl rip (I can't transfer the vinyl to my computer) and after the chorus I used the stereo tag from the sessions disc, faded out at the end. If you're interested to hear it, PM me. Somewhere in the next few days I'll make one download of all the tracks I mixed untill now.
78  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE - stereo mix by soniclovenoize on: November 09, 2011, 11:22:44 PM
Wow, sorry guys, I wasn't aware that 30 people already did this.   Undecided

If you're referring to my post, the fact that i posted some more stereo GV has got nothing to do with your mix! I actually really like your mix of GV, I was just posting some more examples oI found on Youtube.
Paul
79  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE - stereo mix by soniclovenoize on: November 09, 2011, 04:42:39 AM
Thanks for your stereo mix soniclovenoize!

It would be nice if we could make a compilation including all the Good Vibrations stereo experiments/mixes we found over the years. Here are some Youtube links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwrKKbaClME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUaX52GbjSU

80  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: November 09, 2011, 04:12:44 AM
That is an edit of Brian's, from his December 1966 compilation tape. Seven selections on the tape in total.

I believe DYLW was on that tape as well, and edited just like BWPS and TSS (without the second part of the Bicycle Rider fade) if I remember correctly. Maybe vintage evidence for this structure?

Yes it was, but it did have the fade. Otherwise the same, structure wise, but with no "Bicycle Rider" vocals.

It has the fade, but the tracks stops afte the 'pause' within the fade, just like BWPS and TSS CD 1, where the GV Box Setruns longer.
81  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE: Bring It On, Fanmixers. on: November 09, 2011, 03:26:57 AM
I was trying to edit a basic stereo Fire, but I noticed that unfortunately take 2 (one of the three used takes, along with 9 and 18) was not included with the Fire sessions track on the box. It is included on bootlegs but take 9 wasn't...so the only thing that could be done was to make an edit of take 1 and take 9 and 18. This is the closest we can get to a complete stereo The Elements: Fire. If anyone's interested, PM me and I will send you a download link.

I used the structure of the '66 mono mix, not the new one. The new one includes one more verse before take 9 starts.
82  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: November 09, 2011, 12:23:36 AM
That is an edit of Brian's, from his December 1966 compilation tape. Seven selections on the tape in total.

I believe DYLW was on that tape as well, and edited just like BWPS and TSS (without the second part of the Bicycle Rider fade) if I remember correctly. Maybe vintage evidence for this structure?
83  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE: Bring It On, Fanmixers. on: November 08, 2011, 01:39:32 PM
Two other mixes for my Basic Smile collection. Do You Like Worms - Like the CD 1 mix I only used the first part of the Bicycle Rider fade, but I used the sessions disc for the fade to avoid the earlier fade (of the 1st part of the fade). So I also didn't use the Cantina vocals at the end.

CIFOTM - Like CD 1 mono mix, but: without the piano part intro, since it was recorded months after the rest of track; I used the unedited bridge from the sessions disc (fold down); I used the verse from the sessions disc (it was edited and slightly crossfaded with the 2nd chorus on the CD 1 mono mix) and the first chorus for consistent sound and sound quality (but I still really like those new vocals from the 2nd chorus!). I edited the last note of the track from the 2nd chorus to the last chorus in my new mix (a copy of the first chorus).
So actually, a basic edit with all the parts in the same order as the CD 1 mono mix, but without one section and some other sources.

The link for CIFOTM: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B5R4LWK1 (the link doesn't work for me now, I hope it will work soon)
I'll upload DYWL to megaupload tomorrow.

Enjoy,
Paul
84  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE - stereo mix by Barnshine on: November 08, 2011, 05:15:52 AM
How bout a Flac of this edit?

I'm now working on an "Alternate Smile Sessions" set as a sort of a companion to the official one.
It will be in flac and include:
1. This stereo edit of Disc 1 (including cross fades and fly-ins)
2. A mono re-construction of an "historical" Smile (12 tracks, no cross-fades or fly-ins).
3. More "clean" stereo/mono mixes of other songs.
4. "Fanmixers toolkit" - Smile bits and pieces in stereo/mono.
5. Vintage BW mixes of songs/sections.

How does it sound?  Grin

Sounds very good, for me especially 2, 3 and 5. These are actually some of the projects of which I thought I might try to do sometime. I already started doing some basic mono and stereo mixes of some tracks. I'm looking forward to hearing your versions!
85  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE: Bring It On, Fanmixers. on: November 07, 2011, 09:11:15 AM
Here's a mono mix of CIFOTM, exactly like the instrumental mono from '66:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RLUD0ZD1

The chorus is from the CD 1 mono mix, the verse from the sessions (it was crossfaded/edited with the 2nd chorus on disc 1, so I coulnd't replicate a good edit into the 1st chorus), and the bridge from the sessions (the CD 1 mono mix was edited). The instrumental mono mix uses onyl half the chorus the last time, so I did that as well, using a small fade in because that sounded much better than a hard edit.

Enjoy, and if you think iI could improve some things, please tell me!

Really nice work Paul - I'd never actually heard the '66 mono edit, but this flows really well.  It finally feels like a complete song and not just random bits tied together by the chorus. 

What was the 66 mono edit?  I'm confuzzled as well  Huh

Hi Chris Brown, thanks for the nice words. JohnMill, on Secret Smile and Archaeology (lesser quality) there is an instrumental edit with this song structure. Sounds really nice in my opinion, and it is a vintage Brian Wilson mono mix.
86  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE: Bring It On, Fanmixers. on: November 07, 2011, 05:45:12 AM
Here's a mono mix of CIFOTM, exactly like the instrumental mono from '66:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RLUD0ZD1

The chorus is from the CD 1 mono mix, the verse from the sessions (it was crossfaded/edited with the 2nd chorus on disc 1, so I coulnd't replicate a good edit into the 1st chorus), and the bridge from the sessions (the CD 1 mono mix was edited). The instrumental mono mix uses onyl half the chorus the last time, so I did that as well, using a small fade in because that sounded much better than a hard edit.

Enjoy, and if you think iI could improve some things, please tell me!
87  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE - stereo mix by Barnshine on: November 07, 2011, 04:49:49 AM
Thanks! I'm downloading it right now, I look forward to listening to it.
88  Smiley Smile Stuff / Smile Sessions Box Set (2011) / Re: TSS - All things H&V on: November 07, 2011, 04:24:43 AM
I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but I don't think the CD 4 HAV is an actual mix...it's more a compilation of rough mono mixes (also found on UM17 I thought).
89  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE: Bring It On, Fanmixers. on: November 06, 2011, 10:34:26 AM
Another thing I did today: a re-edit of the Child Is Father Of The Man CD 1 mono mix. The bridge used in that mix was edited, I used the complete version from the sessions disc (folded down to mono). The second chorus seemed to start a bit early, so I used the verse from the sessions (folded down to mono), made it last a little bit longer before the 2nd chorus vocals start.
90  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE: Bring It On, Fanmixers. on: November 05, 2011, 10:38:14 AM
I am mostly interested in doing 'basic' or historical SMiLE mixes. So, for example, replacing the Holidays fade out with the version on the sessions disc, to avoid the fly ins. Or editing out the fly ins in Barnyard. I made these so far:

  Look - Mono, fly in parts replaced by master take session fold downs, missing 12th street rag replaced.
  Holidays - Like above.
  Barnyard - Like above, using the master take instead of the first fly in part.
  I'm In Great Shape - Stereo and mono mix from the session disc, fading out where the disc 1 mix stops.
  Cabin Essence - Clicks fixed, and 'Over and over' speed corrected.

Still planning to do:

  Gee - Edited from Part 2, without the horn at the end.
  The Old Master Painter (or My Only Sunshine) - First notes replaced by same take on sessions disc.
  Do You Like Worms - Fade replaced by standard, longer fade (from sessions disc or maybe from the GV Box Set).
  I Love To Say Dada - Edit from TSS and GV Box Set.
  Wind Chimes - Intro edited out, maybe a few bars/notes replaced by GV Box Set to avoid overlapping percussion sounds. Whole track after the chorus replaced by the standard fade, either by the GV Box Set fade or from the sessions disc.
  Wind Chimes - Stereo mix, first part from UM 16, chorus from TSS Vinyl, stereo tag from TSS CD 4.
  The Elements: Fire - Mono mix using the UM 17 mono mix. I don't think a stereo version exactly like the box set will be possible, since take 2 and 9 are not available from the same stereo source (take 2 from UM 17, Archaeology and UM 16 I believe, and take 9 only from TSS)
  HAV Part 2 - Stereo mix
  Child Is Father Of The Man - Mono edit like the instrumental mono mix from '66, or like the two rough mixes from that time.

I may make a CD collecting all these mixes..if anyone's intrested in the meantime, send a PM and I'll send you a download link.

Paul
  
91  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE: Bring It On, Fanmixers. on: November 05, 2011, 08:54:08 AM
Can anyone think of a solution for Love To Say Dada without fly-ins but with the original vocal, other than the GV box set? The quality seems to be pretty inferior on the GV box. Roll your own, not quite.

I think the only thing that can be done is an edit of both versions...Part 1 from the stereo sessions (folded down), Part 2 carefully edited after that. The fly in parts could be replaced with the GV Box Set, the last part can be used from TSS again (which is longer than the GV Box Set version as well).
92  Smiley Smile Stuff / Smile Sessions Box Set (2011) / Re: TSS - All things Cabinessence on: November 05, 2011, 03:53:04 AM
I've tried to improve this track a bit, by removing the clicks (which makes the hiss drop out much less obvious) and speed correcting and re-editing the 'Over and over' part.

Is it allowed to post the link here, or should I keep it PM only? Anyway, if anyone's interested, PM me.
93  Smiley Smile Stuff / Smile Sessions Box Set (2011) / Re: TSS - All things \ on: November 04, 2011, 03:24:25 AM
If anyone's interested, I made new mono mixes for these three tracks without fly ins or crossfades. I don't know if I can post them here, since it's sourced from officially released material...if I can't, anyone can PM me.
94  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Barnyard Mistake in Pressing of Smile Sessions CD? on: November 04, 2011, 02:40:30 AM
I noticed the clicks/hiss/speed things in Cabin Essence as well, and tried to fix them with a little editing and EQ. It did sound quite nice, but I think if someone with a bit more audio EQ/editing experience could do a much better job. Maybe someone with more expererience could try to fix the mono Cabin Essence?
The sound quality is fantastic, the mono mix sounds extremely good. I like it better than the stereo 20/20 mix.
95  Smiley Smile Stuff / Smile Sessions Box Set (2011) / Re: TSS - All things Cabinessence on: November 01, 2011, 12:52:32 PM
My personal theory: It's a 1966 Brian test mix of these sections, not a 2011 mix. Too bad there's no info on how the disc 1 mixes were assembled. The amount of session info is great though! Smiley

Maybe something that IconFetch could ask Mark Linnett in his second interview? I think I read somewhere that we could suggest some new questions to the interviewer...
96  Smiley Smile Stuff / Smile Sessions Box Set (2011) / Re: TSS - All things Look on: November 01, 2011, 12:03:17 AM
I made a mix replacing the fly in parts with the audio from the stereo sessions disc, folded down to mono. I like it better as an instrumental as well. The new mix sounds great though, in terms of sound quality/mix.
97  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Barnyard Mistake in Pressing of Smile Sessions CD? on: October 31, 2011, 02:27:06 PM
I think a digital release with some upgrades could be a solution to fix these small errors. And they could include Barnyard with the backing vocals!
98  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1988 Linett SMiLE on: October 31, 2011, 11:11:15 AM
I think this is a very interesting subject, especially vintage mixes/rough assemblies. They give us the best insight in what the songs would have been like in 1966/67, and how may of the songs should be in my opinion. I actually like the 1988 mixes, mostly because they are quite historically accurate and include some of Brian's rough mixes.
99  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Roll Your Own on: October 31, 2011, 03:36:23 AM
I just made some mono mixes of Look and Holidays, both taken from Disc 1. The only thing I did was replacing the Look chorus with fly in vocals with a fold down of the same section on the sessions disc and inserting the missing 12th street rag part before the last chorus. For Holidays, I replaced the tag/fade (whispering wind) with a fold down of the same section from the sessions, and faded out.
I just could have folded the stereo sessions disc down to mono but the actual mono mixes sounded a lot better so I just replaced soe sections and let the rest of the mix intact.
100  Smiley Smile Stuff / Smile Sessions Box Set (2011) / Re: TSS - All things Cabinessence on: October 31, 2011, 02:03:19 AM
Hi, does anyone know if there's going to be a digital version available? If so, Capitol could fix things like these and let people download a 'fixed' version with errors like these repaired.
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