And once again, it must be asked, where is John Stamos in all of this?

What's the advantage in pre-ordering this way, before the set is officially announced?

Literally none.

I'm 97% sure you can hear Terry clearly in parts of the chorus.

We'd been told several times since the new year that the box set was on track.

That Mike is touring a Feel Flows tour really adds nothing to what we knew.

And that is why I propose we lock the thread now and don't discuss anything else about it. Even when we get a tracklist, or when it is released, there will be no point discussing it since we already knew the set was on track.

Profiting off the good name of the Bruce and Terry venture

Considering how many threads descend into "won't somebody please think of the legacy", I'd say the wishes of the board have come true.

Not saying it’s related, and never really gave it a second thought until reading this thread, but many of M&B upcoming shows are down as ‘Mike Love and Bruce Johnston’s Beach Boys’. Not all, but many.

https://uinterview.com/news/the-beach-boys-announce-new-2021-concert-dates/

Ticketmaster still has The Beach Boys though.

That is a pretty major change. Let me rephrase that: a MAJOR change in protocol for billing these shows. The whole ball of wax up to now was billing these shows as simply "The Beach Boys", now that has changed.

Consider just how unrelated that really is when a major part of this deal announced publicly today involved branding and marketing the band and its name. If it truly is unrelated, the timing of it sure falls into place...

If I were a consumer who, let's say a year ago, purchased a ticket to see "The Beach Boys" for the exact same lineup as what will now possibly be billed as "Mike Love and Bruce Johnston’s Beach Boys", I guess I'd feel a little cheated. That's assuming that anyone in that scenario would care enough, but it's sort of like Mike FINALLY revealing (grudgingly or not) that his version of the band is not (and by logic, was in reality not, for most of 1998 to present) actually "The Beach Boys".

I'm sure there has to have been recent boardroom discussion of what constitutes brand confusion, and how this M&B "BBs" branding contributed to the decay and falling from Mount Rushmore, so to speak.

I half-jokingly wonder if people who purchased tickets to see "The Beach Boys" and only got the bait-and-swtich version of "Mike Love and Bruce Johnston’s Beach Boys" will be wanting any recourse if anyone retroactively feels cheated considering that only many years later finally truth in advertising may be happening.

I mean, I know that the BRI voters collectively allowed that brand name thing to happen for so long, I do have to wonder if they regret it at this point. I do hope this leads to the devaluing to correct course, but man it's such a self-inflicted wound and I can't fault the public if they have a WTF reaction, although few fans except us nerds may care enough to have such a reaction.

They were being billed as "Mike Love and Bruce Johnston's Beach Boys" at least as early as the scheduled July 4, 2020  show at the Hollywood Bowl

They are also not being billed as that at plenty of other shows booked since July 4, 2020 - including things like the Royal Albert Hall in June.

That was great detective work! Yes indeed.

You read hints of it here weeks ago too: 
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,26791.msg668978.html#msg668978

Good to know that Live in 1970 set can be considered an “official release”

Not sure I'd consider a release which was ripped from youtube bootlegs in such a poor manner that they didn't even bother turning an ad-blocker on being official is necessarily a good thing myself

4. She Believes In Love Again - Bruce (wasn’t there a rumor he re-recorded this for Songs from Here & Back or for a 2007 EP?)

It's on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlSxbOAwWqQ

It was released on a sampler in 2007: Friday Music 2007 Sampler

I doubt it's a 2007 recording. Personally I'd say it's definitely pre-BB85, maybe late 70s.

Brian's book is in 2 for £5 at HMV.

The new reissue was listed on Amazon UK with a release date of uh.... last Friday. They have however now said they don't actually have any stock of it....

That quote is from 2017 - https://au.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-salvation-of-brian-wilson-2116/

My book idea:

Take every Beach Boys and solo song he did. Ask him about them.

A month later repeat

A month later repeat

Then put all three probably completely different responses on one page, page per song. Book done.

Unlike perhaps certain people in the community, Dennis can hate Mike and equally not have every action and decision he makes be based around hating Mike.

If we are going to make arguments with lots of assumptions and "must have"s, it's well known that Dennis adored Gage and so he must have wanted to show him to everyone, including say the tv people.

It's the filmore east show that circulates on various other grey market releases.

By definition, number 1.

Why "must" it come out on a Friday???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Release_Day

"Speculation." My guess is December 16, based on the "November 16" date that was on that AllMusic site...probably meant December.

It's not a Friday though.

Isn't that like saying Do It Again doesn't have a chorus, they just go dit dit dit a bit

Presumably its just so you show up on things like the new releases page. I assume a lot of the suggestion algorithms, search results etc also put a bit more weight on newer releases. So just a way to generate some more listens on the cheap

Brian was asked about the boxed set on the live Q&A he's doing on Facebook. His response? "Feel Flows I don't know about that"

Translation : all of his cousin's FF-related antics are stressful to even think about, so he'd rather just avoid the question

Translation: Brian didn't want to give more than 3 word answers to any questions.

Translation: That you, Mike?

Yeah mate, its me Mike Love just hanging around on this message board. I just love hanging out with all you great friendly guys who love and appreciate the music!

Brian was asked about the boxed set on the live Q&A he's doing on Facebook. His response? "Feel Flows I don't know about that"

Translation : all of his cousin's FF-related antics are stressful to even think about, so he'd rather just avoid the question

Translation: Brian didn't want to give more than 3 word answers to any questions.

All the samples https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6570o9dAr4Q

The label listed is Capitol, and it contains stuff we've not heard before. So whatever it is, it's clearly official in some capacity.

I think Brian had the best 'feel' on bass of them all during his prime, but quickly went out of practice off the road and was all over the place doing Sloop John B in 1967. I'm not too familiar with how he was in the 70s. Bruce doesn't impress me on bass during the Michigan concerts - he hits the right notes (improvement from Brian on Sloop I guess) but doesn't propel the band along or fall into a solid groove with Dennis. By his own admission it just wasn't really his area, not that matters considering his excellent keyboard ability (I'll disagree that he was a 'songwriter' first, the guy hardly writes!).

He claims (most recently on Billy Hinsche the other day) that he is always writing, he just doesn't care about getting it released. Make of that what you will.