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« on: October 26, 2010, 05:46:46 PM »

I believe it began in 1967 correct? Was Redwood the first band other then the BB to record for them? I read that they would rent out studio time to people. When did they start doing that? When was it sold? Has it changed hands a lot? Does it exist today?

Any other facts would be appreciated
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2010, 01:54:37 AM »

I believe it began in 1967 correct? Was Redwood the first band other then the BB to record for them? I read that they would rent out studio time to people. When did they start doing that? When was it sold? Has it changed hands a lot? Does it exist today?

Any other facts would be appreciated

Yes.

Yes.

You're confusing the label with the studio.

Opened commercially 1974.

1978.

Twice, I think.

No, demolished some time ago, now condos.
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2010, 03:20:42 AM »

Is there a complete chronological list of sessions held at Brother Studios, for any and all artists? Bellagio seems the obvious place (tips the hat...) to look but no luck.

Would be a nice list to look through, esp if it detailed any and all BB involvement in such sessions...
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2010, 03:43:47 AM »

Weren't Fleetwood Mac interested in buying the studio at some point?
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2010, 06:12:54 AM »

Is there a complete chronological list of sessions held at Brother Studios, for any and all artists? Bellagio seems the obvious place (tips the hat...) to look but no luck.

Would be a nice list to look through, esp if it detailed any and all BB involvement in such sessions...

Actually, that would be a neat list.  Top of my head, I know the following non-BB artists recorded at Brother:

5 vocal sessions for Elton's Blue Moves album...

the bvs for "Don't Let The Sun Go Down on Me"...

Helen Reddy's Ear Candy album...

some Baron Stewart tracks...

some Jim Dutch sessions...

four songs on the album Crane - Brian & Dennis are thanked in the credits, but there's no hard proof that they made any musical contributions...

side one of Charles Lloyd's Big Sur Tapestry...

probably some of Earle Mankey's stuff...

punk band Mumps...

Terry Reid's Rogue Waves album...

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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2010, 06:25:28 AM »

Does it exist today?




You're confusing the label with the studio.


No, demolished some time ago, now condos.

I had read that the studio was demolished. What about the label? I assume it exists today. Do we know who owns it?
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2010, 06:45:19 AM »

Does it exist today?




You're confusing the label with the studio.


No, demolished some time ago, now condos.

I had read that the studio was demolished. What about the label? I assume it exists today. Do we know who owns it?

Oddly enough, some bunch of broken down old losers called The Beach Boys.

I take it you've not bought any of the 1970-1985 2fers.

And, excuse me, if you'd read the studio was demolished, then why ask if it still existed ?
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2010, 06:54:52 AM »

I believe The Runaways recorded either their first or second album at Brother Studios, as well.
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2010, 07:00:03 AM »

I believe The Runaways recorded either their first or second album at Brother Studios, as well.

Of course... Kim Fowley.  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2010, 07:03:24 AM »

probably some of Earle Mankey's stuff...

punk band Mumps...

both sides of Mankey´s own single "Mau Mau"/"Crazy" (Bomp BEJ-2, 1978),
the self-titled, Mankey-produced "Paley Brothers" album (Sire SRK 6052, 1978),

the Mankey-produced B-side "I Like To Be Clean" of the "Crocodile Tears" single by the Mumps (Bomp BEJ-1, 1977)

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the "Mondo Deco" album by The Quick (Mercury Records, 1976),
punk band The Dickies
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2010, 07:33:30 AM »

I'm guessing Brother Records signed no one else apart from Redwood, right?
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2010, 07:40:30 AM »

There were Zarathurstra And Thelibus and The Pickle Brothers, I think.

What about Amy?
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2010, 08:09:23 AM »

Weren't Fleetwood Mac interested in buying the studio at some point?
They were most interested, but only if they were able to purchase the bungalows that bordered the studio on the avenue.  (They wanted to build a game room & jacuzzi there).  When that wasn't possible, Geordie Hormel offered to build to their needs at Village, and the rest is history.

I believe The Runaways recorded either their first or second album at Brother Studios, as well.
The Runaways recorded their first album there; (of course there are some great Dennis stories attached to that...); Fowley & Mankey also produced a Helen Reddy album there!

And Jeff Barry recorded a bunch of things there, including the theme songs to many tv shows, including The Jefferson's and One Day At A Time.  (Fifty bonus points for anyone who can identify the voice singing One Day At A Time!)
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2010, 08:45:04 AM »

I'm guessing Brother Records signed no one else apart from Redwood, right?

The Flame(s).
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2010, 08:51:42 AM »

Weren't Fleetwood Mac interested in buying the studio at some point?
They were most interested, but only if they were able to purchase the bungalows that bordered the studio on the avenue.  (They wanted to build a game room & jacuzzi there).  When that wasn't possible, Geordie Hormel offered to build to their needs at Village, and the rest is history.

I believe The Runaways recorded either their first or second album at Brother Studios, as well.
The Runaways recorded their first album there; (of course there are some great Dennis stories attached to that...); Fowley & Mankey also produced a Helen Reddy album there!

And Jeff Barry recorded a bunch of things there, including the theme songs to many tv shows, including The Jefferson's and One Day At A Time.  (Fifty bonus points for anyone who can identify the voice singing One Day At A Time!)

it wasn't myrna smith was it ?
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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2010, 08:55:20 AM »

I'm guessing Brother Records signed no one else apart from Redwood, right?

The Flame(s).


Oh yeah.
Who the hell are Zarathurstra And Thelibus? The Pickle Brothers were those comedy blokes they had supporting them in 68/69, iirc, and 'Amy' was Bruce's 'Mary Hopkin' type....

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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2010, 09:00:13 AM »

The Runaways recorded their first album there; (of course there are some great Dennis stories attached to that...); Fowley & Mankey also produced a Helen Reddy album there!
Being a Joan Jett fan, I am all ears to what you can share on this subject, Ed...  Grin
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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2010, 09:26:48 AM »

Who the hell are Zarathurstra And Thelibus?

Stevie Kalinich and... er... someone else.
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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2010, 11:00:47 AM »

Who the hell are Zarathurstra And Thelibus?

Stevie Kalinich and... er... someone else.

Mark Jeffrey Buckingham
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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2010, 11:53:39 AM »

Who the hell are Zarathurstra And Thelibus?

Stevie Kalinich and... er... someone else.

Mark Jeffrey Buckingham

Much appreciated. There's a demo of Z&T's "Leaves Of Grass" on Stevie's 2008 A World Of Peace Must Come CD - not the Carl-produced one, however.
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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2010, 05:40:15 AM »

Does it exist today?




You're confusing the label with the studio.


No, demolished some time ago, now condos.

I had read that the studio was demolished. What about the label? I assume it exists today. Do we know who owns it?

Oddly enough, some bunch of broken down old losers called The Beach Boys.

I take it you've not bought any of the 1970-1985 2fers.

And, excuse me, if you'd read the studio was demolished, then why ask if it still existed ?

I meant the label the first time. For some reason, I thought that was exchanged as well. I think I was getting it confused with Sea of Tunes. Haven't there been a lot of bootleg type releases on SoT?
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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2010, 06:04:39 AM »

Does it exist today?




You're confusing the label with the studio.


No, demolished some time ago, now condos.

I had read that the studio was demolished. What about the label? I assume it exists today. Do we know who owns it?

Oddly enough, some bunch of broken down old losers called The Beach Boys.

I take it you've not bought any of the 1970-1985 2fers.

And, excuse me, if you'd read the studio was demolished, then why ask if it still existed ?

I meant the label the first time. For some reason, I thought that was exchanged as well. I think I was getting it confused with Sea of Tunes. Haven't there been a lot of bootleg type releases on SoT?

OK, I'm not famed for my forbearance in the face of rank stupidity, but I'll assume you're not trying to wind me up, just as I'll assume you've not read any of the basic Beach Boys books or even done the most minimal amount of Googling.

Sea of Tunes was the publishing company Murry set up, notionally with Brian, in the early 60s to retain the publishing on their songs. Murry later sold SOT, behind Brian's back, and very likely by forging his signature, in 1969 for a one-off sum of $700,000 (it's been estimated this has cost Brian, to date, in excess of $35 million). The Sea of Tunes 'label' which 'released' the outstanding Unsurpassed Masters series of studio session outtakes in the late 1990s was, as anyone with a single functioning brain cell would realise, nothing to do with a publishing company that hadn't existed for something like 30 years.
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2010, 06:02:42 PM »

You should just send him the link, AGD.
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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2010, 08:39:09 PM »

I really wasn't trying to be stupid. But hey, I do look like Mike Love. And I am not trying to wind you up.

But for some reason, I was thinking the Unsurpassed masters were Brother, then I remembered it was Sea of Tunes. But I did not know that Sea of Tunes has been out for 30 years until you told me AGD.

I could google these questions. But what's the fun in that when I could just ask people on here.
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