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I believe it began in 1967 correct? Was Redwood the first band other then the BB to record for them? I read that they would rent out studio time to people. When did they start doing that? When was it sold? Has it changed hands a lot? Does it exist today?
Any other facts would be appreciated
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Quote from: Magic Transistor Radio on October 26, 2010, 05:46:46 PM
I believe it began in 1967 correct? Was Redwood the first band other then the BB to record for them? I read that they would rent out studio time to people. When did they start doing that? When was it sold? Has it changed hands a lot? Does it exist today?
Any other facts would be appreciated
Yes.
Yes.
You're confusing the label with the studio.
Opened commercially 1974.
1978.
Twice, I think.
No, demolished some time ago, now condos.
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Is there a complete chronological list of sessions held at Brother Studios, for any and all artists? Bellagio seems the obvious place (tips the hat...) to look but no luck.
Would be a nice list to look through, esp if it detailed any and all BB involvement in such sessions...
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Weren't Fleetwood Mac interested in buying the studio at some point?
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Quote from: Wee Helper on October 27, 2010, 03:20:42 AM
Is there a complete chronological list of sessions held at Brother Studios, for any and all artists? Bellagio seems the obvious place (tips the hat...) to look but no luck.
Would be a nice list to look through, esp if it detailed any and all BB involvement in such sessions...
Actually, that would be a neat list. Top of my head, I know the following non-BB artists recorded at Brother:
5 vocal sessions for Elton's
Blue Moves
album...
the bvs for "Don't Let The Sun Go Down on Me"...
Helen Reddy's
Ear Candy
album...
some Baron Stewart tracks...
some Jim Dutch sessions...
four songs on the album
Crane
- Brian & Dennis are thanked in the credits, but there's no hard proof that they made any musical contributions...
side one of Charles Lloyd's
Big Sur Tapestry
...
probably some of Earle Mankey's stuff...
punk band Mumps...
Terry Reid's
Rogue Waves
album...
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Quote from: Magic Transistor Radio on October 26, 2010, 05:46:46 PM
Does it exist today?
You're confusing the label with the studio.
No, demolished some time ago, now condos.
I had read that the studio was demolished. What about the label? I assume it exists today. Do we know who owns it?
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Quote from: Magic Transistor Radio on October 27, 2010, 06:25:28 AM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on October 27, 2010, 01:54:37 AM
Quote from: Magic Transistor Radio on October 26, 2010, 05:46:46 PM
Does it exist today?
You're confusing the label with the studio.
No, demolished some time ago, now condos.
I had read that the studio was demolished. What about the label? I assume it exists today. Do we know who owns it?
Oddly enough, some bunch of broken down old losers called The Beach Boys.
I take it you've not bought any of the 1970-1985 2fers.
And, excuse me, if you'd read the studio was demolished, then why ask if it still existed ?
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I believe The Runaways recorded either their first or second album at Brother Studios, as well.
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Quote from: drbeachboy on October 27, 2010, 06:54:52 AM
I believe The Runaways recorded either their first or second album at Brother Studios, as well.
Of course... Kim Fowley.
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probably some of Earle Mankey's stuff...
punk band Mumps...
both sides of Mankey´s own single "Mau Mau"/"Crazy" (Bomp BEJ-2, 1978),
the self-titled, Mankey-produced "Paley Brothers" album (Sire SRK 6052, 1978),
the Mankey-produced B-side "I Like To Be Clean" of the "Crocodile Tears" single by the Mumps (Bomp BEJ-1, 1977)
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the "Mondo Deco" album by The Quick (Mercury Records, 1976),
punk band The Dickies
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I'm guessing Brother Records signed no one else apart from Redwood, right?
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There were Zarathurstra And Thelibus and The Pickle Brothers, I think.
What about Amy?
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Quote from: SloopJohnB on October 27, 2010, 03:43:47 AM
Weren't Fleetwood Mac interested in buying the studio at some point?
They were most interested, but only if they were able to purchase the bungalows that bordered the studio on the avenue. (They wanted to build a game room & jacuzzi there). When that wasn't possible, Geordie Hormel offered to build to their needs at Village, and the rest is history.
Quote from: drbeachboy on October 27, 2010, 06:54:52 AM
I believe The Runaways recorded either their first or second album at Brother Studios, as well.
The Runaways recorded their first album there; (of course there are some great Dennis stories attached to that...); Fowley & Mankey also produced a Helen Reddy album there!
And Jeff Barry recorded a bunch of things there, including the theme songs to many tv shows, including The Jefferson's and One Day At A Time. (Fifty bonus points for anyone who can identify the voice singing One Day At A Time!)
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Quote from: hypehat on October 27, 2010, 07:33:30 AM
I'm guessing Brother Records signed no one else apart from Redwood, right?
The Flame(s).
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Quote from: SloopJohnB on October 27, 2010, 03:43:47 AM
Weren't Fleetwood Mac interested in buying the studio at some point?
They were most interested, but only if they were able to purchase the bungalows that bordered the studio on the avenue. (They wanted to build a game room & jacuzzi there). When that wasn't possible, Geordie Hormel offered to build to their needs at Village, and the rest is history.
Quote from: drbeachboy on October 27, 2010, 06:54:52 AM
I believe The Runaways recorded either their first or second album at Brother Studios, as well.
The Runaways recorded their first album there; (of course there are some great Dennis stories attached to that...); Fowley & Mankey also produced a Helen Reddy album there!
And Jeff Barry recorded a bunch of things there, including the theme songs to many tv shows, including The Jefferson's and One Day At A Time. (Fifty bonus points for anyone who can identify the voice singing One Day At A Time!)
it wasn't myrna smith was it ?
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Quote from: hypehat on October 27, 2010, 07:33:30 AM
I'm guessing Brother Records signed no one else apart from Redwood, right?
The Flame(s).
Oh yeah.
Who the hell are Zarathurstra And Thelibus? The Pickle Brothers were those comedy blokes they had supporting them in 68/69, iirc, and 'Amy' was Bruce's 'Mary Hopkin' type....
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Quote from: Ed Roach on October 27, 2010, 08:09:23 AM
The Runaways recorded their first album there; (
of course there are some great Dennis stories attached to that...
); Fowley & Mankey also produced a Helen Reddy album there!
Being a Joan Jett fan, I am all ears to what you can share on this subject, Ed...
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Who the hell are Zarathurstra And Thelibus?
Stevie Kalinich and... er... someone else.
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Who the hell are Zarathurstra And Thelibus?
Stevie Kalinich and... er... someone else.
Mark Jeffrey Buckingham
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Who the hell are Zarathurstra And Thelibus?
Stevie Kalinich and... er... someone else.
Mark Jeffrey Buckingham
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Does it exist today?
You're confusing the label with the studio.
No, demolished some time ago, now condos.
I had read that the studio was demolished. What about the label? I assume it exists today. Do we know who owns it?
Oddly enough, some bunch of broken down old losers called The Beach Boys.
I take it you've not bought any of the 1970-1985 2fers.
And, excuse me, if you'd read the studio was demolished, then why ask if it still existed ?
I meant the label the first time. For some reason, I thought that was exchanged as well. I think I was getting it confused with Sea of Tunes. Haven't there been a lot of bootleg type releases on SoT?
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Mike Love autobiography (pg 242-243)
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Does it exist today?
You're confusing the label with the studio.
No, demolished some time ago, now condos.
I had read that the studio was demolished. What about the label? I assume it exists today. Do we know who owns it?
Oddly enough, some bunch of broken down old losers called The Beach Boys.
I take it you've not bought any of the 1970-1985 2fers.
And, excuse me, if you'd read the studio was demolished, then why ask if it still existed ?
I meant the label the first time. For some reason, I thought that was exchanged as well. I think I was getting it confused with Sea of Tunes. Haven't there been a lot of bootleg type releases on SoT?
OK, I'm not famed for my forbearance in the face of rank stupidity, but I'll assume you're not trying to wind me up, just as I'll assume you've not read any of the basic Beach Boys books or even done the most minimal amount of Googling.
Sea of Tunes was the publishing company Murry set up, notionally with Brian, in the early 60s to retain the publishing on their songs. Murry later sold SOT, behind Brian's back, and very likely by forging his signature, in 1969 for a one-off sum of $700,000 (it's been estimated this has cost Brian, to date, in excess of $35 million). The Sea of Tunes 'label' which 'released' the outstanding
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You should just send him the link, AGD.
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I really wasn't trying to be stupid. But hey, I do look like Mike Love. And I am not trying to wind you up.
But for some reason, I was thinking the Unsurpassed masters were Brother, then I remembered it was Sea of Tunes. But I did not know that Sea of Tunes has been out for 30 years until you told me AGD.
I could google these questions. But what's the fun in that when I could just ask people on here.
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