Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread!

[Andrew G. Doe]

Do outtakes from the "Summer In Paradise" sessions exist or did they only record the songs that are on the album?

If they do, I seriously don't wanna hear them. Considering what's on the album, can you imagine how bad the stuff they left off was ? 

[adamghost]

I dunno, in '76-'77 the Boys were tending to leave their best material unreleased...

[Andrew G. Doe]

I dunno, in '76-'77 the Boys were tending to leave their best material unreleased...

Fair point, but when you stack up SIP against Love You, and even 15 BO... well !

[Nicko]

Only One Earth had been written by that point so may have been attempted. I think Bruce has said though that Terry Melcher hated SIP because they had to rush the production to get it out, so I doubt they had time to try much they didn't use.

[BJL]

Only One Earth had been written by that point so may have been attempted. I think Bruce has said though that Terry Melcher hated SIP because they had to rush the production to get it out, so I doubt they had time to try much they didn't use.

Get it out for WHAT!?!!??  kokomo had been, what, four years ago?  its not like they had some fleeting moment to capitalize on (as one could at least argue with 15 big ones)!

[runnersdialzero]

Edit: Nevermind

[Nicko]

Get it out for WHAT!?!!??  kokomo had been, what, four years ago?  its not like they had some fleeting moment to capitalize on (as one could at least argue with 15 big ones)!

The record deal that they'd been offered.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Get it out for WHAT!?!!??  kokomo had been, what, four years ago?  its not like they had some fleeting moment to capitalize on (as one could at least argue with 15 big ones)!

The record deal that they'd been offered.

What 'deal they were offered' ?  SIP was released on Brother Entertainment. Like, their own custom label ?

[Jay]

Do outtakes from the "Summer In Paradise" sessions exist or did they only record the songs that are on the album?

If they do, I seriously don't wanna hear them. Considering what's on the album, can you imagine how bad the stuff they left off was ? 

But what about the songs that were recorded? Since it was all done on computers, are there any "session tapes"? Is there even a "master tape"? Or was it all saved on some kind of hard drive?

[Nicko]

What 'deal they were offered' ?  SIP was released on Brother Entertainment. Like, their own custom label ?

According to Bruce, they were offered a stack of cash to get it out quickly.

[Andrew G. Doe]

What 'deal they were offered' ?  SIP was released on Brother Entertainment. Like, their own custom label ?

According to Bruce, they were offered a stack of cash to get it out quickly.

By whom ? The label, which is to say, themselves ?  The only other people who might make such an offer were the distributors, Navarre.

[Stegibo]

Do outtakes from the "Summer In Paradise" sessions exist or did they only record the songs that are on the album?

If they do, I seriously don't wanna hear them. Considering what's on the album, can you imagine how bad the stuff they left off was ?  

But what about the songs that were recorded? Since it was all done on computers, are there any "session tapes"? Is there even a "master tape"? Or was it all saved on some kind of hard drive?

I wonder why there are so many session recordings from the '60s and '70s out there and just so few from the '80s and '90s?

[Nicko]

What 'deal they were offered' ?  SIP was released on Brother Entertainment. Like, their own custom label ?

According to Bruce, they were offered a stack of cash to get it out quickly.

By whom ? The label, which is to say, themselves ?  The only other people who might make such an offer were the distributors, Navarre.

Yep. you are probably right that Bruce has said it was Navarre who forced them to get it out at speed.

[Mike's Beard]

Do outtakes from the "Summer In Paradise" sessions exist or did they only record the songs that are on the album?

If they do, I seriously don't wanna hear them. Considering what's on the album, can you imagine how bad the stuff they left off was ?  

But what about the songs that were recorded? Since it was all done on computers, are there any "session tapes"? Is there even a "master tape"? Or was it all saved on some kind of hard drive?

I wonder why there are so many session recordings from the '60s and '70s out there and just so few from the '80s and '90s?

Probs because they all knew you can't polish a turd no matter how long you spend on it!

[Jason]

Yep. you are probably right that Bruce has said it was Navarre who forced them to get it out at speed.

And how ironic that Navarre went under within a year of Summer In Paradise's release. The album technically was out of print as soon as it was released!

[buddhahat]

Has that song "Hawaiian Song" surfaced yet? I think it's from the Smiley sessions? Possibly an early version of Little Pad. Sorry, I know this has been discussed before but couldn't remember if anyone had heard it or not.

[punkinhead]

80s-90s sessions surfaced as in official or unofficial release? prolly because there's one major thing missing in those sessions: BRIAN, for the most part; let alone creativity

[ivrimark]

New subject, and fairly insignificant so I'll put it here.
Having read a post here and there about "mistaken" Beach Boys songs (i.e. Here Come De Honey Man, Ant Bee's "Worms" cover), I'm curious if there are other BB rarities that are not the Beach Boys at all.  Specifically, wasn't there a "Holidays" track from an early Smile vinyl boot that fits this category (or is that the "Honey Man" track?)

[Mike's Beard]

The first Smile cd I bought had "Laughing Gravy"s version of "Vegetables" on it. Took me about all of 8 seconds to realise it was a cover and not a session out take.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Has that song "Hawaiian Song" surfaced yet? I think it's from the Smiley sessions? Possibly an early version of Little Pad. Sorry, I know this has been discussed before but couldn't remember if anyone had heard it or not.

Good call - part of "Hawaiian Song" transmuted into "Little Pad".

[Andrew G. Doe]

New subject, and fairly insignificant so I'll put it here.
Having read a post here and there about "mistaken" Beach Boys songs (i.e. Here Come De Honey Man, Ant Bee's "Worms" cover), I'm curious if there are other BB rarities that are not the Beach Boys at all.  Specifically, wasn't there a "Holidays" track from an early Smile vinyl boot that fits this category (or is that the "Honey Man" track?)

That's "Honey Man". 

[punkinhead]

New subject, and fairly insignificant so I'll put it here.
Having read a post here and there about "mistaken" Beach Boys songs (i.e. Here Come De Honey Man, Ant Bee's "Worms" cover), I'm curious if there are other BB rarities that are not the Beach Boys at all.  Specifically, wasn't there a "Holidays" track from an early Smile vinyl boot that fits this category (or is that the "Honey Man" track?)

The Holiday track you refer to is a Miles Davis' tune called Holiday that was on one of the first Smile boots as a practical joke, I used LLVS as a source.

BTW, another mistaken as a BB song: Balboa Nights, just an instrumental track I found recently, prolly discovered a long time ago.

[Andrew G. Doe]

New subject, and fairly insignificant so I'll put it here.
Having read a post here and there about "mistaken" Beach Boys songs (i.e. Here Come De Honey Man, Ant Bee's "Worms" cover), I'm curious if there are other BB rarities that are not the Beach Boys at all.  Specifically, wasn't there a "Holidays" track from an early Smile vinyl boot that fits this category (or is that the "Honey Man" track?)

The Holiday track you refer to is a Miles Davis' tune called Holiday that was on one of the first Smile boots as a practical joke, I used LLVS as a source.

BTW, another mistaken as a BB song: Balboa Nights, just an instrumental track I found recently, prolly discovered a long time ago.

Good call - on a whole bunch of compilations of Hite Morgan BB tracks, there are songs not by them.

Marketts -
Balboa Blue
Wipe Out
Surfer's Stomp

Frogmen -
Tioga
Beware Below
Underwater

Tornadoes -
Phantom Surfer
Bustin' Surfboards

Surfin' Six -
Little Deuce Coupe
409

[Jay]

Ok, here's another question: Exactly when did the lyrics to "Rhonda" change from "She was gonna be my wife...", to "She was gonna be my women", in the live performances of the song? It's a trivial thing, but I've always wondered who changed the lyric, when it was changed, and why it was changed. While I'm at it, who changed it back to "wife"?  

[MBE]

Ok, here's another question: Exactly when did the lyrics to "Rhonda" change from "She was gonna be my wife...", to "She was gonna be my women", in the live performances of the song? It's a trivial thing, but I've always wondered who changed the lyric, when it was changed, and why it was changed. While I'm at it, who changed it back to "wife"?  

I think it was mostly sung with the woman lyric in the 70's. They played it real funky from 1971-80 so I think that's when they adapted the lyrics slightly.