Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread!

[Jay]

Ok, here's another question: Exactly when did the lyrics to "Rhonda" change from "She was gonna be my wife...", to "She was gonna be my women", in the live performances of the song? It's a trivial thing, but I've always wondered who changed the lyric, when it was changed, and why it was changed. While I'm at it, who changed it back to "wife"?  

I think it was mostly sung with the woman lyric in the 70's. They played it real funky from 1971-80 so I think that's when they adapted the lyrics slightly.

I figured that they changed it around 1970. They played it real "bluesy" for a while.

[runnersdialzero]

The hillbilly rock arrangement for "Rhonda" on In Concert is absolute balls. Can't stand it.

[phirnis]

The hillbilly rock arrangement for "Rhonda" on In Concert is absolute balls. Can't stand it.

Me too. I think it sounds dull and utterly lifeless. Never heard an early-70s rendition with Dennis on lead vocals, however. Could've been a nice opportunity for him to have at least one lead vocal on In Concert.

[Jay]

I love that version.  The version at Carnegie Hall from 1971(?) with Dennis singing should have been on the official In Concert album.

[The infamous Baldwin Organ]

The Dennis version is AWESOME. I hope it gets an official release some day.

[hypehat]

I've heard Brian pinched the main melody for You Still Believe In Me from a piece of classical music... True or false?

[Andrew G. Doe]

First I've heard of that - which classical piece ?

[buddhahat]

Has that song "Hawaiian Song" surfaced yet? I think it's from the Smiley sessions? Possibly an early version of Little Pad. Sorry, I know this has been discussed before but couldn't remember if anyone had heard it or not.

Good call - part of "Hawaiian Song" transmuted into "Little Pad".

Andrew, have you or anyone heard this song - is it in the vaults?

[hypehat]

First I've heard of that - which classical piece ?

Wish i knew - it didn't specify. Just wondering if anyone else had heard of such a thing, but i guess it's not true. The riff's relative simplicity (it's just going down the scale, in my simple musical terms) means it probably IS similar to something, somewhere, but that doesn't mean Brian nicked it of course.

EDIT- two more questions for you smarty types

1. What exactly is a 'tack piano'? I know what it sounds like, but i want to know what makes a tack piano.... 'tack'? 
2. Why on the GV boxset is the 'false barnyard' ending repeated twice?

[Wrightfan]

First I've heard of that - which classical piece ?

Wish i knew - it didn't specify. Just wondering if anyone else had heard of such a thing, but i guess it's not true. The riff's relative simplicity (it's just going down the scale, in my simple musical terms) means it probably IS similar to something, somewhere, but that doesn't mean Brian nicked it of course.

EDIT- two more questions for you smarty types

1. What exactly is a 'tack piano'? I know what it sounds like, but i want to know what makes a tack piano.... 'tack'? 
2. Why on the GV boxset is the 'false barnyard' ending repeated twice?

I think I can answer #2. They're two different versions (I think one is just a single vocal, the other has the whole group.)

As to why, isn't that where the "Heroes and Villains, just see what you've done done" section what supposed to be on "part 2" of Brian's planned single? Maybe they figured since it already was on the set on the released 45, they didn't want to repeat it.

[SloopJohnB]

1. What exactly is a 'tack piano'? I know what it sounds like, but i want to know what makes a tack piano.... 'tack'? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tack_piano

[Andrew G. Doe]

Has that song "Hawaiian Song" surfaced yet? I think it's from the Smiley sessions? Possibly an early version of Little Pad. Sorry, I know this has been discussed before but couldn't remember if anyone had heard it or not.

Good call - part of "Hawaiian Song" transmuted into "Little Pad".

Andrew, have you or anyone heard this song - is it in the vaults?

The tape is indeed in the BRI storage facility.

[buddhahat]

Has that song "Hawaiian Song" surfaced yet? I think it's from the Smiley sessions? Possibly an early version of Little Pad. Sorry, I know this has been discussed before but couldn't remember if anyone had heard it or not.

Good call - part of "Hawaiian Song" transmuted into "Little Pad".

Andrew, have you or anyone heard this song - is it in the vaults?

The tape is indeed in the BRI storage facility.

Have you heard it though, or has anyone described it to you?

[Andrew G. Doe]

Has that song "Hawaiian Song" surfaced yet? I think it's from the Smiley sessions? Possibly an early version of Little Pad. Sorry, I know this has been discussed before but couldn't remember if anyone had heard it or not.

Good call - part of "Hawaiian Song" transmuted into "Little Pad".

Andrew, have you or anyone heard this song - is it in the vaults?

The tape is indeed in the BRI storage facility.

Have you heard it though, or has anyone described it to you?

Well... someone would have to have heard it, to know that a part of it turned into "Little Pad", wouldn't they ? 

[Mike's Beard]

In your book Andrew you speculate that "Diamond Head" was based perhaps on unused Smile material. Could segments of "Hawaiian Song" have spawned both "Little Pad" and "Diamond Head" or are they from completely different works?

[Andrew G. Doe]

In your book Andrew you speculate that "Diamond Head" was based perhaps on unused Smile material. Could segments of "Hawaiian Song" have spawned both "Little Pad" and "Diamond Head" or are they from completely different works?

"Hawaiian Song" isn't from the Smile sessions, though.

[hypehat]

Nice dodge 

[Jay]

Um...is it just me, or did half of this thread disappear?

[Pretty Funky]

Why, under the 'Stephen Desper' thread do posters call him 'Mr Desper'? Is this kissing-up or has Stephen demanded it?

If posting on the Brit site would they call Bruce Johnston 'Mr Johnston?

[GLarson432]

I was at the bar in the hotel of Susan Lang's BB convention in 2003 with Stephen Desper.  He was a great guy.  He asked me what it was that 'brought me in' to the BB's in the first place.  I told him the three songs I've posted about elsewhere recently. 

He was/is (I guess) a down-to-earth guy and no "Mr. Desper" was required.  He was just a guy at a bar having a drink.  I was lucky enough to be next to him.

[Pretty Funky]

Thanks for the reply Mr Larson. 

[punkinhead]

Why, under the 'Stephen Desper' thread do posters call him 'Mr Desper'? Is this kissing-up or has Stephen demanded it?

If posting on the Brit site would they call Bruce Johnston 'Mr Johnston?

maybe respect? 

[punkinhead]

Is All I Wanna Do considered partially a TM song?   

Maybe a love/TM inspired song?

Never thought it was until I saw it on the Endless Harmony doc. when discussing Mike's TM endorsement.

[OneEar/OneEye]

I had been reading an article on backmasking and wondered if there were ever any instances of backmasking in Beach Boys music? 

[slothrop]

Is All I Wanna Do considered partially a TM song?   

Maybe a love/TM inspired song?

Never thought it was until I saw it on the Endless Harmony doc. when discussing Mike's TM endorsement.

I've wondered this myself. In that doc they even show footage of Mike meditating/walking in the forest with "All I Wanna Do" playing. Maybe it's just because it was a very peaceful cut.

But I'm inclined to think it is slightly TM inspired. Especially the "oooh when I sit and close my eyes/a gentle thought comes in my mind/my love is burning brightly/the (?) moon and stars shine nightly".

I've also been kind of confused as to what "kind" of love song this is. Romantic, platonic? Some of it sounds like something a parent could say to a child ("help you in whatever you do") and some of it sounds romantic (Carl's wonderful "lonely in the night I feel"). Either way it's sorely underappreciated. Could've been a classic love song everyone knows in my opinion. Classic Brian and Mike song--it's like the psychedelic version of "Please Let Me Wonder," in sound and gentle sentiment.