Al Jardine says there's a BAD conflict w/Mike. Aka: The welcome back AGD thread

[LostArt]

If you've been around this board and those that came before it as long as I have, you'll know that Cam has his opinions, and I must say he certainly stands firm in his beliefs.  I tried to counter his position several years ago for a short time, but it is useless.  There were some very good discussions between him and Dan Lega years ago.  Any of you long-timers remember those exchanges?  Classic stuff.  Anyway, just as oldsurferdude is oldsurferdude, Cam is Cam and that is that. 

Okay, you all may resume your bickering now.

[Mikie]

I agree with that. But I also actually post in the threads about the group's music. Unlike other posters who apparently don't have anything to contribute except when it comes to Mike being unfairly blamed for stuff in their opinion. Kinda like how Phil Cohen only popped up to complain about non-releases. Cam only pops up when it's about internecine squabbles. Weird.

There are some posters on this board who only come out to play when there's a thread on the subject of SMiLE. When there's a new fragment that's discovered or some other new revelation (i.e. Durrie acetates) or other issue, they come out of the woodwork. After the Smile Sessions came out, there was a lot of discussion about that subject from a lot of fans and particularly Smile-O-Philes, then after that, they went home! Didn't even see some of them come back to discuss the C50. It's like that's all there is to talk about with the Beach Boys legacy. Sure it was the pinnacle of their career, but there's been 50 years worth of music and other stuff to discuss, not just SMiLE! But everybody has their primary interests, I guess.

[Andrew G. Doe]

But everybody has their primary interests, I guess.

My primary interest is the music, irrespective of who may be performing it.

My secondary interest is trying as best I can to see this amazing music has a valid and accurate context.

My tertiary interest is weeding out trolls, liars, fantasists and the terminally blinkered. Gettin' there...

[Iron Horse-Apples]

But everybody has their primary interests, I guess.

My primary interest is the music, irrespective of who may be performing it.

My secondary interest is trying as best I can to see this amazing music has a valid and accurate context.

My tertiary interest is weeding out trolls, liars, fantasists and the terminally blinkered. Gettin' there...

Cue little girl from Poltergeist

"He's ba-a-ck"

[pixletwin]

But everybody has their primary interests, I guess.

My primary interest is the music, irrespective of who may be performing it.

My secondary interest is trying as best I can to see this amazing music has a valid and accurate context.

My tertiary interest is weeding out trolls, liars, fantasists and the terminally blinkered. Gettin' there...

Cue little girl from Poltergeist

"He's ba-a-ck"

 

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[Mikie]

Andrew who?

[PaulTMA]

'My solution' would be to allow Mike & Bruce to continue as The Beach Boys and for the BAD guys to continue as Animal Collective: The Prequel.

[Wirestone]

But everybody has their primary interests, I guess.

My primary interest is the music, irrespective of who may be performing it.

My secondary interest is trying as best I can to see this amazing music has a valid and accurate context.

My tertiary interest is weeding out trolls, liars, fantasists and the terminally blinkered. Gettin' there...

bah bah BAHHHHM !

Welcome back, stranger.

[Iron Horse-Apples]

'My solution' would be to allow Mike & Bruce to continue as The Beach Boys and for the BAD guys to continue as Animal Collective: The Prequel.

I think Mike and Bruce should have the vowels, and Brian, Al and Dave have the consonants.

e ea os

Th Bch By

[DonnyL]

I must admit I thought this board was doomed without AGD.

WELCOME BACK !!!

[Cam Mott]

Welcome back ol' pal.

[18thofMay]

Great to se you back mate!

[MBE]

But everybody has their primary interests, I guess.

My primary interest is the music, irrespective of who may be performing it.

My secondary interest is trying as best I can to see this amazing music has a valid and accurate context.

My tertiary interest is weeding out trolls, liars, fantasists and the terminally blinkered. Gettin' there...

Amen and good to see you back.

[drbeachboy]

Welcome back, Andrew! And none to soon, either.

[filledeplage]

But everybody has their primary interests, I guess.

My primary interest is the music, irrespective of who may be performing it.

My secondary interest is trying as best I can to see this amazing music has a valid and accurate context.

My tertiary interest is weeding out trolls, liars, fantasists and the terminally blinkered. Gettin' there...

For each interest; 

Welcome Back !

[urbanite]

Welcome back Andrew.  Have you had a listen to MIC?

[oldsurferdude]

Tertiary-a 2.00 word for third as in third point but noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, we have to use the 2.00 word to, COUGH (as he coined it), impress the masses. What a fine , upstanding police force we have in the agdster! RTP(real troll protection).

[bgas]

WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                 HEs BACK.........................................

[Gertie J.]

yup, my reaction exac.

[Emdeeh]

Welcome back, AGD!

[leggo of my ego]

'My solution' would be to allow Mike & Bruce to continue as The Beach Boys and for the BAD guys to continue as Animal Collective: The Prequel.

"My Solution"      
I awoke one morning about 3 am remembering a missing link to a formula I stumbled across a year before.
Suddenly I called my faithful dog to my side and from a batch produced a sample of the formula offering it to my dear pet. 

[Don Malcolm]

As Carl sang it so many years ago, Andrew...

It's about time!!

[Andrew G. Doe]

Welcome back Andrew.  Have you had a listen to MIC?

Bored with it.  

Thanks for the kind words of welcome: much appreciated. I see little has changed during my hiatus.

Also, having read the original post in this thread, reminds me of Alan's recent "explosive" interview in that once you read what was actually said, a huge damp squib. No-one's going to change the status quo at BRI unless they're seriously naive (and I'm pretty sure it would be very difficult in any event). As Sting put it, "money for nothing". The only band that could - and should - be allowed to promote itself as The Original Beach Boys toured last year... and the use of the word "original" grates in this context.

[HeyJude]

Have the band *ever* tried to actually bill themselves *collectively* as “The Original Beach Boys?” Not that I can remember. The C50 band didn’t even use this verbiage, Mike and Bruce don’t try to use it, nor did anybody in the “BAD” situation including Al ever say they wanted to collectively bill any grouping as “THE Original Beach Boys.”

It seems this is all simply about descriptors for individual members. Like if freaking David Marks toured with Ringo’s “All-Starr” Band or something, could he say he is/was an “Original Beach Boy?” The answer to me seems to be usually these guys can indeed bill themselves as such, unless that verbiage starts creeping into any band’s actual name.

Referencing it back to Al’s situation of the previous decade, it’s my belief that the lawsuits were over the “BBFF” name, but due to the various lawsuits and temporary injunctions and whatnot, and supposed/alleged “confusion” being created, there was a period of time in the early-mid 2000’s where Al was temporarily barred from even billing himself as a “Beach Boy” even in a descriptive sense. By the time I saw Al in a solo concert in 2005, Al had regained the ability to state that he, singly was a “Beach Boy” as evidenced by the comical way he signed one of the several items for me as “Beach Boy Al Jardine.”  

The Beach Boys’ situation gets even more sketchy and confusing, because the “corporate” band is different from the “touring” band, so some members who have “left” or are no longer in the touring band are in one sense “former Beach Boys”, but also maintained a status as simply “Beach Boy” depending on how you define such. Brian and Al have never really been “former Beach Boys”, but because of how ALL of these guys have chosen to have a “license” to use the name that doesn’t match the actual members, you get weird conundrums like this.  

[ontor pertawst]

Also, having read the original post in this thread, reminds me of Alan's recent "explosive" interview in that once you read what was actually said, a huge damp squib.

Yeah, it's almost as if somebody posted that faux tabloid headline phrasing as a joke and then said so several times in the thread or something!