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« on: March 09, 2013, 09:54:43 AM »

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Not posted on here for a while, just heard this tune and would love to know more!
That has to be Brian Wilson on at least some of the BV's, sounds like one of his productions too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2mQmLwdnEk


does anyone have any info on this?
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2013, 10:06:30 AM »

No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2013, 11:41:25 AM »

No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.

A polite response as always...
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2013, 12:04:01 PM »

Make a dumb statement, that's what happens: if you really think that sounds like a late 65/early 66 BW production, or that any of the bvs sound like him, I'd offer you have serious auditory problems.
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2013, 12:16:16 PM »

That was a bit too harsh, but from listening to it for the first time, I can't hear any BW type vibe.
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2013, 12:19:18 PM »

A very interesting cover.

Some trivia:

Brian at the time talked about "Norwegian wood" in an interview, mentioning "I would have orchestrated it, put in background voices -- done a thousand things".
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2013, 04:49:40 AM »

Hi

Not posted on here for a while, just heard this tune and would love to know more!
That has to be Brian Wilson on at least some of the BV's, sounds like one of his productions too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2mQmLwdnEk


does anyone have any info on this?

Jan Berry was quite an accomplished producer in his own right, and, indeed, was a major influence on Brian Wilson, both in terms of teaching him how to produce music and in assembling the "Wrecking Crew," whose members Brian used in many of his best productions.  Though I don't think this particular song is a good demonstration of their similarities in production style, any similarities you are hearing is probably as a result of one of those two things.
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2013, 06:10:45 AM »

A very interesting cover.

Some trivia:

Brian at the time talked about "Norwegian wood" in an interview, mentioning "I would have orchestrated it, put in background voices -- done a thousand things".

Definitely an intriguing comment.  The sitar certainly wasn't in Brian's sonic pallet at that time.

That said, the producer very much put that surf harmony sound imprint into it.  May not have had Brian in it, but I bet it was fun to brainstorm the potential in the studio.
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2013, 07:33:16 AM »

I hear a lot of Norwegian Wood in You Still Believe In Me. Try singing the verse melody of NW over the verse backingtrack of You Still Me Believe.
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2013, 07:56:43 AM »

No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.

A polite response as always...
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2013, 11:05:21 AM »

Hi

Not posted on here for a while, just heard this tune and would love to know more!
That has to be Brian Wilson on at least some of the BV's, sounds like one of his productions too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2mQmLwdnEk


does anyone have any info on this?

Excellent hypothesis AllIWanna. Sadly, we can't be sure. If only we had an on-line resource which provided yearly / monthly / daily accounts of activities by the Beach Boys. If only we had such a resource.

It's a damn shame, I tell ya.
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2013, 11:39:25 AM »

ALLIWANNADO -

Back-up vocalists on that song were probably either Sloan & Barri, Jill Gibson, one of the Matadors, or none of tha above.

For a more definitive answer contact Jan & Dean historian Mark Moore via PM.

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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2013, 12:01:48 PM »

No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.

You're right in that it sounds absolutely nothing like Brian on b/g vox, and that he clearly didn't produce it, but geez....just be nice. A simple "no Brian here" would have sufficed.
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2013, 01:31:32 PM »

If only we had an on-line resource which provided yearly / monthly / daily accounts of activities by the Beach Boys. If only we had such a resource.

It's a damn shame, I tell ya.

Yeah, someone really should do that. It could be a great reference.
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2013, 01:32:42 PM »

No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.

You're right in that it sounds absolutely nothing like Brian on b/g vox, and that he clearly didn't produce it, but geez....just be nice. A simple "no Brian here" would have sufficed.

As a consequence of events over the past few days, I'm not currently doing "be nice".
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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2013, 01:34:02 PM »



As a consequence of events over the past few days, I'm not currently doing "be nice".

Only the past few days???
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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2013, 01:38:41 PM »

No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.

You're right in that it sounds absolutely nothing like Brian on b/g vox, and that he clearly didn't produce it, but geez....just be nice. A simple "no Brian here" would have sufficed.

As a consequence of events over the past few days, I'm not currently doing "be nice".
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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2013, 02:01:05 PM »

No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.

A polite response as always...

That was a bit too harsh

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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2013, 02:17:08 PM »

As a consequence of events over the past few days, I'm not currently doing "be nice".

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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2013, 02:32:18 PM »

No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.

A polite response as always...

That was a bit too harsh

But it's okay, it's always okay. Because he knows MOAR than anyone in Beach Boys Land, and personally knows a bunch of important people. So it's fine that he polices the forum to ensure the most possibly unpleasant experience for fans. How else would he feed his ego? Hey, did you know that in 1985 he talked to important people in Beach Boys history and they personally told him things? It's true. He's also written stuff on the band and he has his own website! We ought to respect the guy merely for these milestones. Be grateful that this fan community has such a treasure, and, not only give him a pass on his ceaseless shitty, infantile attitude, but from time to time, kiss his ass too.

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my harsh comment was directed to Andrew not Nicko
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« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2013, 02:57:18 PM »

No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.

A polite response as always...

That was a bit too harsh

But it's okay, it's always okay. Because he knows MOAR than anyone in Beach Boys Land, and personally knows a bunch of important people. So it's fine that he polices the forum to ensure the most possibly unpleasant experience for fans. How else would he feed his ego? Hey, did you know that in 1985 he talked to important people in Beach Boys history and they personally told him things? It's true. He's also written stuff on the band and he has his own website! We ought to respect the guy merely for these milestones. Be grateful that this fan community has such a treasure, and, not only give him a pass on his ceaseless shitty, infantile attitude, but from time to time, kiss his ass too.

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my harsh comment was directed to Andrew not Nicko

No, i know. Perhaps it was a bit confusing to quote the two of you. I was simply adding my commentary to yours and Nicko's comments, which were both addressing what’s his face. Anyway...
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2013, 03:26:34 PM »


As a consequence of events over the past few days, I'm not currently doing "be nice".
Its ironic that a band that sings about "good vibrations" has such a grouch being an expert on them.
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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2013, 05:06:26 PM »


As a consequence of events over the past few days, I'm not currently doing "be nice".
Its ironic that a band that sings about "good vibrations" has such a grouch being an expert on them.
But don't you see? He can get his panties in a bunch, comes on this board, is as ignorant as he wants to be to  whomever, and gets a friggin' pass because he knows alot of stuff about the band. WTF? And I get banned because he starts talking about my u no wat! Am I supposed to stand there and take his BS or do I give back a bit of what he slammed me with? Weak guys, weak. Thud
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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2013, 05:15:30 PM »

No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.

You're right in that it sounds absolutely nothing like Brian on b/g vox, and that he clearly didn't produce it, but geez....just be nice. A simple "no Brian here" would have sufficed.

As a consequence of events over the past few days, I'm not currently doing "be nice".

Then refrain.
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« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2013, 07:37:37 PM »

Hi

Not posted on here for a while, just heard this tune and would love to know more!
That has to be Brian Wilson on at least some of the BV's, sounds like one of his productions too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2mQmLwdnEk


does anyone have any info on this?


Which is the right response. Jan was a heck of a talented guy and they made some great, GREAT records.
Jan Berry was quite an accomplished producer in his own right, and, indeed, was a major influence on Brian Wilson, both in terms of teaching him how to produce music and in assembling the "Wrecking Crew," whose members Brian used in many of his best productions.  Though I don't think this particular song is a good demonstration of their similarities in production style, any similarities you are hearing is probably as a result of one of those two things.



Which is the right response. Jan was a heck of a talented guy and they made some great, GREAT records.
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