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Jan & Dean - Norwegian Wood - Brian Wilson BV's?
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Hi
Not posted on here for a while, just heard this tune and would love to know more!
That has to be Brian Wilson on at least some of the BV's, sounds like one of his productions too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2mQmLwdnEk
does anyone have any info on this?
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No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on March 09, 2013, 10:06:30 AM
No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.
A polite response as always...
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Make a dumb statement, that's what happens: if you really think that sounds like a late 65/early 66 BW production, or that any of the bvs sound like him, I'd offer you have serious auditory problems.
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Re: Jan & Dean - Norwegian Wood - Brian Wilson BV's?
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That was a bit too harsh, but from listening to it for the first time, I can't hear any BW type vibe.
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Re: Jan & Dean - Norwegian Wood - Brian Wilson BV's?
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A very interesting cover.
Some trivia:
Brian at the time talked about "Norwegian wood" in an interview, mentioning "I would have orchestrated it, put in background voices -- done a thousand things".
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Re: Jan & Dean - Norwegian Wood - Brian Wilson BV's?
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Quote from: AllIWannaDo on March 09, 2013, 09:54:43 AM
Hi
Not posted on here for a while, just heard this tune and would love to know more!
That has to be Brian Wilson on at least some of the BV's, sounds like one of his productions too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2mQmLwdnEk
does anyone have any info on this?
Jan Berry was quite an accomplished producer in his own right, and, indeed, was a major influence on Brian Wilson, both in terms of teaching him how to produce music and in assembling the "Wrecking Crew," whose members Brian used in many of his best productions. Though I don't think this particular song is a good demonstration of their similarities in production style, any similarities you are hearing is probably as a result of one of those two things.
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Re: Jan & Dean - Norwegian Wood - Brian Wilson BV's?
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Quote from: Rocker on March 09, 2013, 12:19:18 PM
A very interesting cover.
Some trivia:
Brian at the time talked about "Norwegian wood" in an interview, mentioning "I would have orchestrated it, put in background voices -- done a thousand things".
Definitely an intriguing comment. The sitar certainly wasn't in Brian's sonic pallet at that time.
That said, the producer very much put that surf harmony sound imprint into it. May not have had Brian in it, but I bet it was fun to brainstorm the potential in the studio.
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Re: Jan & Dean - Norwegian Wood - Brian Wilson BV's?
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I hear a lot of Norwegian Wood in You Still Believe In Me. Try singing the verse melody of NW over the verse backingtrack of You Still Me Believe.
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Quote from: Nicko1234 on March 09, 2013, 11:41:25 AM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on March 09, 2013, 10:06:30 AM
No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.
A polite response as always...
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Re: Jan & Dean - Norwegian Wood - Brian Wilson BV's?
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Quote from: AllIWannaDo on March 09, 2013, 09:54:43 AM
Hi
Not posted on here for a while, just heard this tune and would love to know more!
That has to be Brian Wilson on at least some of the BV's, sounds like one of his productions too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2mQmLwdnEk
does anyone have any info on this?
Excellent hypothesis AllIWanna. Sadly, we can't be sure. If only we had an on-line resource which provided yearly / monthly / daily accounts of activities by the Beach Boys. If only we had such a resource.
It's a damn shame, I tell ya.
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Re: Jan & Dean - Norwegian Wood - Brian Wilson BV's?
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ALLIWANNADO -
Back-up vocalists on that song were probably either Sloan & Barri, Jill Gibson, one of the Matadors, or none of tha above.
For a more definitive answer contact Jan & Dean historian Mark Moore via PM.
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on March 09, 2013, 10:06:30 AM
No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.
You're right in that it sounds absolutely nothing like Brian on b/g vox, and that he clearly didn't produce it, but geez....just be nice. A simple "no Brian here" would have sufficed.
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Re: Jan & Dean - Norwegian Wood - Brian Wilson BV's?
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Quote from: Doo Dah on March 10, 2013, 11:05:21 AM
If only we had an on-line resource which provided yearly / monthly / daily accounts of activities by the Beach Boys. If only we had such a resource.
It's a damn shame, I tell ya.
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Quote from: EgoHanger1966 on March 10, 2013, 12:01:48 PM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on March 09, 2013, 10:06:30 AM
No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.
You're right in that it sounds absolutely nothing like Brian on b/g vox, and that he clearly didn't produce it, but geez....just be nice. A simple "no Brian here" would have sufficed.
As a consequence of events over the past few days, I'm not currently doing "be nice".
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Re: Jan & Dean - Norwegian Wood - Brian Wilson BV's?
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on March 10, 2013, 01:32:42 PM
As a consequence of events over the past few days, I'm not currently doing "be nice".
Only the past few days???
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on March 10, 2013, 01:32:42 PM
Quote from: EgoHanger1966 on March 10, 2013, 12:01:48 PM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on March 09, 2013, 10:06:30 AM
No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.
You're right in that it sounds absolutely nothing like Brian on b/g vox, and that he clearly didn't produce it, but geez....just be nice. A simple "no Brian here" would have sufficed.
As a consequence of events over the past few days, I'm not currently doing "be nice".
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Quote from: Nicko1234 on March 09, 2013, 11:41:25 AM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on March 09, 2013, 10:06:30 AM
No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.
A polite response as always...
Quote from: Righteous Bald Dude on March 09, 2013, 12:16:16 PM
That was a bit too harsh
But it's okay, it's always okay. Because he knows MOAR than anyone in Beach Boys Land, and personally knows a bunch of important people. So it's fine that he polices the forum to ensure the most possibly unpleasant experience for fans. How else would he feed his ego? Hey, did you know that in 1985 he talked to important people in Beach Boys history and they personally told him things? It's true. He's also written stuff on the band and he has his own website! We ought to respect the guy merely for these milestones. Be grateful that this fan community has such a treasure, and, not only give him a pass on his ceaseless shitty, infantile attitude, but from time to time, kiss his ass too.
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Re: Jan & Dean - Norwegian Wood - Brian Wilson BV's?
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on March 10, 2013, 01:32:42 PM
As a consequence of events over the past few days, I'm not currently doing "be nice".
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Re: Jan & Dean - Norwegian Wood - Brian Wilson BV's?
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Quote from: monicker on March 10, 2013, 02:01:05 PM
Quote from: Nicko1234 on March 09, 2013, 11:41:25 AM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on March 09, 2013, 10:06:30 AM
No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.
A polite response as always...
Quote from: Righteous Bald Dude on March 09, 2013, 12:16:16 PM
That was a bit too harsh
But it's okay, it's always okay. Because he knows MOAR than anyone in Beach Boys Land, and personally knows a bunch of important people. So it's fine that he polices the forum to ensure the most possibly unpleasant experience for fans. How else would he feed his ego? Hey, did you know that in 1985 he talked to important people in Beach Boys history and they personally told him things? It's true. He's also written stuff on the band and he has his own website! We ought to respect the guy merely for these milestones. Be grateful that this fan community has such a treasure, and, not only give him a pass on his ceaseless shitty, infantile attitude, but from time to time, kiss his ass too.
my harsh comment was directed to Andrew not Nicko
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Re: Jan & Dean - Norwegian Wood - Brian Wilson BV's?
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Quote from: Righteous Bald Dude on March 10, 2013, 02:32:18 PM
Quote from: monicker on March 10, 2013, 02:01:05 PM
Quote from: Nicko1234 on March 09, 2013, 11:41:25 AM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on March 09, 2013, 10:06:30 AM
No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.
A polite response as always...
Quote from: Righteous Bald Dude on March 09, 2013, 12:16:16 PM
That was a bit too harsh
But it's okay, it's always okay. Because he knows MOAR than anyone in Beach Boys Land, and personally knows a bunch of important people. So it's fine that he polices the forum to ensure the most possibly unpleasant experience for fans. How else would he feed his ego? Hey, did you know that in 1985 he talked to important people in Beach Boys history and they personally told him things? It's true. He's also written stuff on the band and he has his own website! We ought to respect the guy merely for these milestones. Be grateful that this fan community has such a treasure, and, not only give him a pass on his ceaseless shitty, infantile attitude, but from time to time, kiss his ass too.
my harsh comment was directed to Andrew not Nicko
No, i know. Perhaps it was a bit confusing to quote the two of you. I was simply adding my commentary to yours and Nicko's comments, which were both addressing what’s his face. Anyway...
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Re: Jan & Dean - Norwegian Wood - Brian Wilson BV's?
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on March 10, 2013, 01:32:42 PM
As a consequence of events over the past few days, I'm not currently doing "be nice".
Its ironic that a band that sings about "good vibrations" has such a grouch being an expert on them.
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Quote from: SMiLE Brian on March 10, 2013, 03:26:34 PM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on March 10, 2013, 01:32:42 PM
As a consequence of events over the past few days, I'm not currently doing "be nice".
Its ironic that a band that sings about "good vibrations" has such a grouch being an expert on them.
But don't you see? He can get his panties in a bunch, comes on this board, is as ignorant as he wants to be to whomever, and gets a friggin' pass because he knows alot of stuff about the band. WTF? And I get banned because he starts talking about my u no wat! Am I supposed to stand there and take his BS or do I give back a bit of what he slammed me with? Weak guys, weak.
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Re: Jan & Dean - Norwegian Wood - Brian Wilson BV's?
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Quote from: EgoHanger1966 on March 10, 2013, 12:01:48 PM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on March 09, 2013, 10:06:30 AM
No Brian on this recording. No bvs, didn't produce it. If you seriously think Brian had a hand in this production, I suggest you have your ears syringed.
You're right in that it sounds absolutely nothing like Brian on b/g vox, and that he clearly didn't produce it, but geez....just be nice. A simple "no Brian here" would have sufficed.
As a consequence of events over the past few days, I'm not currently doing "be nice".
Then refrain.
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Re: Jan & Dean - Norwegian Wood - Brian Wilson BV's?
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Quote from: AllIWannaDo on March 09, 2013, 09:54:43 AM
Hi
Not posted on here for a while, just heard this tune and would love to know more!
That has to be Brian Wilson on at least some of the BV's, sounds like one of his productions too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2mQmLwdnEk
does anyone have any info on this?
Which is the right response. Jan was a heck of a talented guy and they made some great, GREAT records.
Jan Berry was quite an accomplished producer in his own right, and, indeed, was a major influence on Brian Wilson, both in terms of teaching him how to produce music and in assembling the "Wrecking Crew," whose members Brian used in many of his best productions. Though I don't think this particular song is a good demonstration of their similarities in production style, any similarities you are hearing is probably as a result of one of those two things.
Which is the right response. Jan was a heck of a talented guy and they made some great, GREAT records.
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