The Autotune Thread

[runnersdialzero]

The video is fine. I can't believe people are still in denial over this! It really IS that bad, it's not the recording device or anything of the sort - Brian is being autotuned, and it's not well done at all. Autotune, if not applied correctly, can actually make people go out of tune and sound worse than they really do.

Also, did they really give David's only lead away? And yet Jeff still gets a lead? Inexcusable.

[Runaways]

the only reason i said the camera is cause it's never been THAT obvious.  It hasn't, and anyone trying to tell me it's been like that the whole time is bonkers.   I almost feel like someone turned it way too high for that show on accident. 

[Wirestone]

Bump.

They're still autotuning the sh*t out of Brian's vocals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZrIyFaPRTE

this HAS to be made worse by the camera, i don't doubt that there's some tuning going on.  But that video is the worst i've heard, and nobody would do that knowingly.

Yes.

I've seen some camera clips where the tuning is virtually indistinguishable from how I've known BW to sound -- the only clue is that he's hitting pitches square on rather than a tiny bit flat.

But this latest round of clips makes him sound like a malfunctioning robot. And clearly there is a middle ground in terms of how these concerts actually sound.

[runnersdialzero]

the only reason i said the camera is cause it's never been THAT obvious.  It hasn't, and anyone trying to tell me it's been like that the whole time is bonkers.   I almost feel like someone turned it way too high for that show on accident. 

It's sounded about as bad on about 3/4 of the other clips and recordings where Brian does lead that I've heard. Cameras and iPads do not create autotune, nor do they ever really act in a way that can create something that resembles it.

imo

[Wirestone]

the only reason i said the camera is cause it's never been THAT obvious.  It hasn't, and anyone trying to tell me it's been like that the whole time is bonkers.   I almost feel like someone turned it way too high for that show on accident.  

It's sounded about as bad on about 3/4 of the other clips and recordings where Brian does lead that I've heard. Cameras and iPads do not create autotune, nor do they ever really act in a way that can create something that resembles it.

imo

At least to my ears, there's a notable difference in the metallic quality. It is not the same as 3/4 of the other recordings, which is why both Runaways and I are writing about it.

I've found the tuning audible on 90 percent of more of the audio or video recordings I've heard. But I also trust my ears enough to know that the effect does not sound the same in every situation. Assuming the sound man at the shows isn't radically changing the settings from one date to another, it simply makes sense that the mode of recording affects the sound's reproduction.

And if you don't think recording devices can give people's voices a metallic sound, you must have limited exposure to modern technology. Or never used a cell phone.

[seltaeb1012002]

We've heard a million sh*tty BB's audience tapes through the years. No pitch correction to be detected.


C'mon Beach Boys' people, hear us....

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Here's a clip from the same source

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpcvXiuo3Zg&feature=relmfu

No pitch correction or cell phone artifacts to be found on Carl's vocal.

[Runaways]

the only reason i said the camera is cause it's never been THAT obvious.  It hasn't, and anyone trying to tell me it's been like that the whole time is bonkers.   I almost feel like someone turned it way too high for that show on accident. 

It's sounded about as bad on about 3/4 of the other clips and recordings where Brian does lead that I've heard. Cameras and iPads do not create autotune, nor do they ever really act in a way that can create something that resembles it.

imo

we'll just disagree.  I've watched as many videos as i can, i haven't heard any as bad as that.

[runnersdialzero]

I'll grant you that the video posted is one of the worst and clearest examples, but there are several other I've heard that aren't terribly far behind. Just me.

Here's a clip from the same source

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpcvXiuo3Zg&feature=relmfu

No pitch correction or cell phone artifacts to be found on Carl's vocal.

This would be the most damning evidence on all of these concerts. Why don't Carl and Dennis ever have this going on if the recording devices are to blame?

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9QAA1RP4Tw&feature=relmfu

49 seconds in...WTF?! Now THAT right there is pitch correction of some sorts. Holy balls

[b00ts]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9QAA1RP4Tw&feature=relmfu

49 seconds in...WTF?! Now THAT right there is pitch correction of some sorts. Holy balls

Wow, that may the "silver bullet" for those who don't want to accept tht Brian is being tuned. I wish they'd just take it off, who in the BB's organization actually thinks this sounds good?

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

A lot of what you guys were hearing before wasn't pitch correction. Remember how i said it would be glaringly obvious when it was used? Well, THAT, my friends, is the result.

If any one on the BB organization is reading this, if you REALLY want a better sound, I work cheap. Cause that right there is a travesty.

[Autotune]

A lot of what you guys were hearing before wasn't pitch correction. Remember how i said it would be glaringly obvious when it was used? Well, THAT, my friends, is the result.

If any one on the BB organization is reading this, if you REALLY want a better sound, I work cheap. Cause that right there is a travesty.

Not if it doesn't sound like this in the venue. I refuse to believe that only tone-deaf people have attended so far (are we at 100,000 already?) and no one's realized this obscenity.

[seltaeb1012002]

A lot of what you guys were hearing before wasn't pitch correction. Remember how i said it would be glaringly obvious when it was used? Well, THAT, my friends, is the result.

If any one on the BB organization is reading this, if you REALLY want a better sound, I work cheap. Cause that right there is a travesty.

Bro, it's been there from the beginning. The Texas show (2nd day?) is damn near soundboard, and B-Pain is IN THE BUILDING!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9QAA1RP4Tw&feature=relmfu

49 seconds in...WTF?! Now THAT right there is pitch correction of some sorts. Holy balls

Wow, that may the "silver bullet" for those who don't want to accept tht Brian is being tuned. I wish they'd just take it off, who in the BB's organization actually thinks this sounds good?

I don't know man. Is there a remote possibility that someone from management is reading this thread? If so...

What a f*cking outrage.

PLEASE STOP RUINING WHAT MIGHT BE BRIAN WILSON'S LAST LIVE VOCALS WITH THE BEACH BOYS!
 
The Beach Boys are better than that. It's embarrassing and disrespectful to Brian, the band, and the fans.

People ARE hearing it at the venues. Don't believe me? Just look around.

And if you don't wanna buy into that, trust me, people are hearing it on the youtube videos. You can't keep ignoring this. Say you don't condone "bootlegging" all you want, but these are the times we live in. This is giving a terrible impression of The Beach Boys.

By the way, if they do this at Bonnaroo? The sh*t's gonna hit the fan, if you ask me.

[Zach95]

Guys guys guys. Check out the Tampa thread. Listen to Heroes. They removed it. Or at least, changed the way they used it significantly. Brian sounds completely different and no more wobbling.

I guess I cold be crazy and way too optimistic...but this sounds extremely, extremely different.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7zFvqsTv5sU

Check out that pure chorus!

[seltaeb1012002]

Nah bro it's still there.


If it doesn't subside, I'm gonna call the cops!

[Zach95]

Do you agree that is a LOT less? I mean come on. That's WAY different than some of the wobbling we've heard.

[seltaeb1012002]

Not at all sir. There's a ton of reverb on the recording which might make u think you're hearing it less, but all the tell tale signs are still 100% apparent to these ears.

[Cam Mott]

Ok, so who has been at these actual concerts and heard it live in the room and is hearing these same effects as heard on the fan recordings?

[Steve Mayo]

A lot of what you guys were hearing before wasn't pitch correction. Remember how i said it would be glaringly obvious when it was used? Well, THAT, my friends, is the result.

If any one on the BB organization is reading this, if you REALLY want a better sound, I work cheap. Cause that right there is a travesty.

Bro, it's been there from the beginning. The Texas show (2nd day?) is damn near soundboard, and B-Pain is IN THE BUILDING!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9QAA1RP4Tw&feature=relmfu

49 seconds in...WTF?! Now THAT right there is pitch correction of some sorts. Holy balls

Wow, that may the "silver bullet" for those who don't want to accept tht Brian is being tuned. I wish they'd just take it off, who in the BB's organization actually thinks this sounds good?

I don't know man. Is there a remote possibility that someone from management is reading this thread? If so...

What a f*cking outrage.

PLEASE STOP RUINING WHAT MIGHT BE BRIAN WILSON'S LAST LIVE VOCALS WITH THE BEACH BOYS!
 
The Beach Boys are better than that. It's embarrassing and disrespectful to Brian, the band, and the fans.

People ARE hearing it at the venues. Don't believe me? Just look around.

And if you don't wanna buy into that, trust me, people are hearing it on the youtube videos. You can't keep ignoring this. Say you don't condone "bootlegging" all you want, but these are the times we live in. This is giving a terrible impression of The Beach Boys.

By the way, if they do this at Bonnaroo? The sh*t's gonna hit the fan, if you ask me.

whoa...settle down backwards beatles.......no sh*t is hitting the fan.....just enjoy this time we have been given and save yourself from all that stress and yelling...

[seltaeb1012002]

whoa...settle down backwards beatles.......no sh*t is hitting the fan.....just enjoy this time we have been given and save yourself from all that stress and yelling...

Yeah, I did bug out a bit there. Apologies for the bad energy. It's just another one of those bizarre moves by The Beach Boys that makes no sense.

Other than this I'm totally excited about the reunion.

[Paulos]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9QAA1RP4Tw&feature=relmfu

49 seconds in...WTF?! Now THAT right there is pitch correction of some sorts. Holy balls

Nah, that's clearly Brian showing of his kickass ability to sing vibrato!

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

[guitarfool2002]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9QAA1RP4Tw&feature=relmfu

49 seconds in...WTF?! Now THAT right there is pitch correction of some sorts. Holy balls

Nah, that's clearly Brian showing of his kickass ability to sing vibrato!

That was Brian impersonating Grace Slick.

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It sounds like they may have slightly turned him down in the mix, going by the clip of the last show.  You can hear the harmonies and the band a little more. His voice still sounds processed.

[Paulos]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9QAA1RP4Tw&feature=relmfu

49 seconds in...WTF?! Now THAT right there is pitch correction of some sorts. Holy balls

Nah, that's clearly Brian showing of his kickass ability to sing vibrato!

That was Brian impersonating Grace Slick.

What we haven't been told is that Grace is secretly doubling Brian on this tour, she has been backstage at each show with her own mike and has gotten a little carried away at times resulting in the 'robo-Brian'.