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« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2012, 04:49:44 AM »

Oh I'm going to step on a few toes now I'm sure.

Weakest song PS/Smile -> Our Prayer. It just sounds like the standard thing any given vocal group would throw together as an intro to their act. Sorry!
And your the guy who also said Smile was a disaster because it was not in stereo... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2012, 04:51:18 AM »

Oh I'm going to step on a few toes now I'm sure.

Weakest song PS/Smile -> Our Prayer. It just sounds like the standard thing any given vocal group would throw together as an intro to their act. Sorry!
And your the guy who also said Smile was a disaster because it was not in stereo... Roll Eyes

Never said that or anything close to that. It wasn't my thread I just agreed that many around the internetz has bashed the box set because it's in mono.  Tongue
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« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2012, 04:58:53 AM »

Smile: Wonderful (The melody/vocals are pretty but it's definitely my least favorite song on Smile.)

the f*ck?

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 In fact, anyone who says Wonderful in this thread should be, well, I don't know, it's all just... YOU'RE MAD, I TELL YOU

As for me,

Pet Sounds - I Know There's An Answer
SMiLE - Wind Chimes. I obviously love it, but I prefer the Smiley Smile version.
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« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2012, 05:00:12 AM »

I don't think even it's possible for me to select the "weakest" songs on these two albums.  But just for fun I'll say I Know There's An Answer (since I prefer the alternate Hang On To Your Ego) and He Gives Speeches because it doesn't fit.  The albums as released though are as close to perfect as one can get.
the only album i can think of that comes close to perfection like these albums is "what's goin on".

Yeah, but that has Save The Children on it - PS and Smile may have low points, but they never get THAT low  LOL
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« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2012, 05:05:50 AM »

I swear new guy is not what he seems.

But um

Pet sounds and look.  Look was boring on bwps and even more so on tss
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« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2012, 05:14:22 AM »

Oh I'm going to step on a few toes now I'm sure.

Weakest song PS/Smile -> Our Prayer. It just sounds like the standard thing any given vocal group would throw together as an intro to their act. Sorry!
And your the guy who also said Smile was a disaster because it was not in stereo... Roll Eyes

Never said that or anything close to that. It wasn't my thread I just agreed that many around the internetz has bashed the box set because it's in mono.  Tongue
                                                                                                                                                           
Let me put it to you this way. As much as it was good for BB's legacy to release Pet Sounds in stereo, equally it hurt their legacy to release Smile in mono. You can say that it's unfair, unjust but just look at the reactions out there. It's obvious.
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« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2012, 05:23:04 AM »

Oh I'm going to step on a few toes now I'm sure.

Weakest song PS/Smile -> Our Prayer. It just sounds like the standard thing any given vocal group would throw together as an intro to their act. Sorry!
And your the guy who also said Smile was a disaster because it was not in stereo... Roll Eyes

Never said that or anything close to that. It wasn't my thread I just agreed that many around the internetz has bashed the box set because it's in mono.  Tongue
                                                                                                                                                           
Let me put it to you this way. As much as it was good for BB's legacy to release Pet Sounds in stereo, equally it hurt their legacy to release Smile in mono. You can say that it's unfair, unjust but just look at the reactions out there. It's obvious.

See? I'm very consistent  Grin

I get the feeling that you're reading way too much into that quote.

(Read it again. What percentage of BB's legacy can be traced the PS sessions box? )
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« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2012, 05:36:19 AM »

The pet sounds helped the legacy a huge deal, what you implied was that the smile box ruined that goodwill and the legacy is what it was before the pet sounds box.
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« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2012, 06:06:12 AM »


Weakest song PS/Smile -> Our Prayer. It just sounds like the standard thing any given vocal group would throw together as an intro to their act. Sorry!

It has a "sound" that had been done before, in a sense, but "thrown together"? You fuckin' kidding me, here? Show me any other pop music composer in the 60s, especially one who'd been criticized as a mere dipshit who could only find success after ripping off an old rock 'n' roll number a mere THREE YEARS PRIOR, who could construct something as intricate and just flat out as good as "Our Prayer" and I'll show you a green dog.
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« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2012, 06:17:10 AM »

Smile: Wonderful (The melody/vocals are pretty but it's definitely my least favorite song on Smile.)

the f*ck?

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 In fact, anyone who says Wonderful in this thread should be, well, I don't know, it's all just... YOU'RE MAD, I TELL YOU


Yerp. The chord changes in Wonderful are jaw dropping and the lyrics are some of the most beautiful I've ever heard.
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As for me I honestly can't name a "weak" track on Pet Sounds. Every song on there means something special to me.

'Child Is Father Of The Man' disappoints me the most: It is one of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard - but it was never really finished.
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« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2012, 06:48:07 AM »

The pet sounds helped the legacy a huge deal, what I implied was that the smile box ruined that goodwill and the legacy is what it was before the pet sounds box.

That's a great analogy. You and me, great minds think alike!
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« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2012, 06:54:33 AM »

The pet sounds helped the legacy a huge deal, what I implied was that the smile box ruined that goodwill and the legacy is what it was before the pet sounds box.

That's a great analogy. You and me, great minds think alike!
Nice job changing my quote's "you" to "I" Roll Eyes.   
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« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2012, 07:18:27 AM »

Pet Sounds is easy: Sloop John B because Brian didn't write it.

SMiLE: I'm in Great Shape plus songs Brian didn't write like You are My Sunshine
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« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2012, 07:31:17 AM »

'Child Is Father Of The Man' disappoints me the most: It is one of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard - but it was never really finished.

I feel that. It's crushingly beautiful as it is but who knows what could have been done with Van Dyke Parks lyrics and a Brian melody and Beach Boys harmonies (on the verses). Many of you could point to BWPS and, yes, it's good but it doesn't really capture Smile-era melody (it's for this same reason that many people instinctively felt that Brian's brief singing of the Worms melody on the box was part of the original melody while the 2004 melody was from 2004-era), or 66' era Parks style lyrics.
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« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2012, 07:58:41 AM »

The pet sounds helped the legacy a huge deal, what I implied was that the smile box ruined that goodwill and the legacy is what it was before the pet sounds box.

That's a great analogy. You and me, great minds think alike!

Still one of the biggest overreactions I've seen on the board.  Completely laughable that TSS hurt the legacy
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« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2012, 08:04:23 AM »

The pet sounds helped the legacy a huge deal, what I implied was that the smile box ruined that goodwill and the legacy is what it was before the pet sounds box.

That's a great analogy. You and me, great minds think alike!

Still one of the biggest overreactions I've seen on the board.  Completely laughable that TSS hurt the legacy
I totally agree 100%, cablegeddon changed my quote to make it look like I agreed with him.
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« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2012, 08:15:16 AM »

The pet sounds helped the legacy a huge deal, what I implied was that the smile box ruined that goodwill and the legacy is what it was before the pet sounds box.

That's a great analogy. You and me, great minds think alike!

Still one of the biggest overreactions I've seen on the board.  Completely laughable that TSS hurt the legacy

Hey just shoot the messanger!  3D

The pet sounds helped the legacy a huge deal, what I implied was that the smile box ruined that goodwill and the legacy is what it was before the pet sounds box.

That's a great analogy. You and me, great minds think alike!

Still one of the biggest overreactions I've seen on the board.  Completely laughable that TSS hurt the legacy
I totally agree 100%, cablegeddon changed my quote to make it look like I agreed with him.

I didn't do it! I don't know how that happened. Maybe it was Mark Linnet's ghost who did it.
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« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2012, 08:20:45 AM »

 Like a mob of people really chased Mark Linett down for ruining the smile box set by not putting it in stereo... Dead Horse
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« Reply #43 on: February 27, 2012, 08:38:04 AM »

Oh I'm going to step on a few toes now I'm sure.

Weakest song PS/Smile -> Our Prayer. It just sounds like the standard thing any given vocal group would throw together as an intro to their act. Sorry!

A standard thing? LOL If that is "standard" then so are pretty much every other vocal tags, rounds, and chords that Brian put together. The closing vocal tag to GOK? Standard. Girls on the Beach? Standard vocals. Background vocals on WIBN? Standard. Practically the entire flip side of Today? Standard vocals. We Three Kings of Orient Are/Auld Lang Syne/The Lord's Prayer? Standard stuff.

Yep, Brian was just your regular old standard writer of vocal harmonies and tags. Ho-hum.
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« Reply #44 on: February 27, 2012, 08:57:25 AM »

 Angry If I HAD to pick one off of Pet Sounds it would be I know there's an answer, but ONLY cuz it could have been 'hang on to your ego'. anyone who said the title track.. no.. just no..

and for smile assuming we're talking the smile sessions version, i'd say look. but just in that form. Brian wilson's version is amazing. if we are talking any song from the smile era/album, i'd say he gives speeches.
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« Reply #45 on: February 27, 2012, 09:59:55 AM »

Pet Sounds - Lets go away for awhile.
Smile - Old master painter/You are my sunshine/I wanna be around.
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« Reply #46 on: February 27, 2012, 10:31:53 AM »

I also like all the tracks on both but if I had to choose:

Let's Go Away For Awhile
I'm In Great Shape (I'm In Great Shape/I  Wanna Be Around/Workshop)  (Tho it probably would have been better in its finished form.)
why let's go away for awhile? :/

As noted, the instrumentals lack the thing most of us like most about the Beach Boys: Their vocals.  And of the two, I think the incredibly quirky title track has much more character.  Not that I don't love LGAFA too. But like I said, if I had to choose one...
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« Reply #47 on: February 27, 2012, 11:12:13 AM »

They're great songs obviously, but if i really had to pick (which, presumably, i do) i'd say That's Not Me and Good Vibrations (GV because, as with Smiley Smile, i feel it shouldn't be on there - the album should finish with the reprise of Our Prayer surely...).
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« Reply #48 on: February 27, 2012, 11:39:19 AM »

Pet Sounds - Pet Sounds (and what a friggin awesome track that is!)

Smile - My Only Sunshine (the one track on the album I could live without. decent though)
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« Reply #49 on: February 27, 2012, 11:51:10 AM »

I don't think even it's possible for me to select the "weakest" songs on these two albums.  But just for fun I'll say I Know There's An Answer (since I prefer the alternate Hang On To Your Ego) and He Gives Speeches because it doesn't fit.  The albums as released though are as close to perfect as one can get.
the only album i can think of that comes close to perfection like these albums is "what's goin on".

Yeah, but that has Save The Children on it - PS and Smile may have low points, but they never get THAT low  LOL
you don't like that song? it's beautiful :/
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