Singers/Groups That You Consider Over-Rated.

[Ron]

If they name a band that has never had a top 10 hit in their life as great, then that band by definition is overrated.  If they name a band you've never heard of, that band is overrated.  If they name a band that isn't signed to a major record deal, that band is overrated. 

You're an idiot.

I'm also able to keep a conversation going without resulting to disagreeing by just calling somebody a name.  What I said stands.  If you disagree, prove it with an argument. 


The point is: Somebody says "OH, THIS BAND IS GREAT!" and nobody's ever heard of them, they're BY DEFNITION over-hyping the band.  If the band's so great, how come they haven't got a contract? 


That's called Logic.  It's solid.  You may disagree, but you'd be wrong.

[Ron]

You guys talking about the Beatles and Stones and McCartney being overrated are cracking me up!  Seriously, you guys are funny!

 

They want to prove how cool and independent minded they are, by shooting arrows at kings.  They want to be individuals, but have made the mistake of joining that huge, miscontent, pimple-faced, black cloud group of people that call themselves true music fans.

It's similar to people who call themselves athiests (too smart to believe in god, so instead they believe in no god.  Not intelligent enough to see that they're doing the exact thing they despise)

The Beatles are simply the greatest of all time.  It's easy to see why.  Saying the Stones are overrated is a joke.  McCartney has more talent in his dick than anybody on this board has in their entire family. 

[Ron]

Who do you consider over-rated? ..The type of singer/group that whenever you hear their music you're like "Why do people listen to this & how could they like ________?"
I hope I don't get stoned for this LOL ..Even though they have a major influence on Rock & Roll i'mma have to definately go with "Velvet Underground".(I heard a few songs by them i actually think are ok and it's  on their debut but everything else after...hmmmmm)

I agree.  The Velvet Underground and every other half-ass band that everybody says is their favorite but in reality nobody (outside of people who think they're too intelligent to listen to a real band) listens to.   

If they name a band that has never had a top 10 hit in their life as great, then that band by definition is overrated.  If they name a band you've never heard of, that band is overrated.  If they name a band that isn't signed to a major record deal, that band is overrated. 

I understand this is your opinion but it makes absolutely no sense.

If I say my own popcorn is the greatest popcorn in the world, since you've never ate my popcorn, it's obviously not.  How could it possibly be if nobody's even had it? 


Similarly, ONE of the reasons the Beatles aren't overrated, is because you can't even begin to express how their music has affected the world.  How many weddings have had Beatles songs played at it?  How many happy lives have been influenced by that?  How many funerals have had Beatles music played at it?

The human mind isn't large enough to comprehend even a small piece of how the Beatles music has affected the world; saying they're overrated is a GUESS, you can't possibly understand their impact on the world, and therefore can't possibly judge if they're overrated or not. 

Similarly, if a band has never even been heard of, even telling somebody they're good is over-rating them.   They're so good I've never heard of them.  They aren't sh*t. 

It's simple logic. 

[cablegeddon]

U2 > Bryan Ferry, Velvet Underground, Lou Reed

[donald]

U2.  And Bono. And The Edge.  And those other 2  U2 guys who appear on the group pictures, U2 and U2.

Anyone else I could mention would just be personal prejudice.  

[SMiLE Brian]

McCartney has more talent in his dick than anybody on this board has in their entire family. 

All hail Paul McCartney.

 

[hypehat]

Ron, is your wife's cooking not as good as McDonalds because she only cooks it for you and a few friends?

If you answer anything but yes, you're a hypocrite and a moron.

[rab2591]

I've been listening to U2 ever since I was a little kid.

I LOVE The Joshua Tree and Zooropa is one of my absolute favorite albums.

But I HATE how U2 has chosen to be marketed. I really dislike most of their music after POP. I hate opening The Rolling Stone and seeing something about Bono in there every damn time. I think they are incredibly overrated and overhyped for their modern work.

I just watched their new documentary From The Sky Down today....it really gave me a new appreciation for the the old U2. But nowadays Bono seems to think that money can buy success (the mega-shows, the Spiderman broadway play)...I suppose it has brought success so far, but I think people will start to see through the facade if they don't start creating some original eno-less music soon.

[Newguy562]

You guys talking about the Beatles and Stones and McCartney being overrated are cracking me up!  Seriously, you guys are funny!

 

They want to prove how cool and independent minded they are, by shooting arrows at kings.  They want to be individuals, but have made the mistake of joining that huge, miscontent, pimple-faced, black cloud group of people that call themselves true music fans.

It's similar to people who call themselves athiests (too smart to believe in god, so instead they believe in no god.  Not intelligent enough to see that they're doing the exact thing they despise)

The Beatles are simply the greatest of all time.  It's easy to see why.  Saying the Stones are overrated is a joke.  McCartney has more talent in his dick than anybody on this board has in their entire family. 

if they can't see that the beatles are the best then something is seriously wrong with this message board lol

[SMiLE Brian]

You guys talking about the Beatles and Stones and McCartney being overrated are cracking me up!  Seriously, you guys are funny!

 

They want to prove how cool and independent minded they are, by shooting arrows at kings.  They want to be individuals, but have made the mistake of joining that huge, miscontent, pimple-faced, black cloud group of people that call themselves true music fans.

It's similar to people who call themselves athiests (too smart to believe in god, so instead they believe in no god.  Not intelligent enough to see that they're doing the exact thing they despise)

The Beatles are simply the greatest of all time.  It's easy to see why.  Saying the Stones are overrated is a joke.  McCartney has more talent in his dick than anybody on this board has in their entire family. 

if they can't see that the beatles are the best then something is seriously wrong with this message board lol

I am insane.

[SMiLE Brian]

I think Newguy is on the wrong message board...

[Newguy562]

C'mon guys even Brian Wilson considers them the best band of all time so you guys have to follow your leader lol

[SMiLE Brian]

C'mon guys even Brian Wilson considers them the best band of all time so you guys have to follow your leader lol

I have my own personal taste... LOL

[Newguy562]

C'mon guys even Brian Wilson considers them the best band of all time so you guys have to follow your leader lol

I have my own personal taste... LOL

hey hey hey i respect that

[SMiLE Brian]

C'mon guys even Brian Wilson considers them the best band of all time so you guys have to follow your leader lol

I have my own personal taste... LOL

hey hey hey i respect that

Than don't say that everybody has to love the Beatles as the greatest band ever.

[Ron]

You know who's overrated? 

Van Dyke Parks. 

[Ron]

Ron, is your wife's cooking not as good as McDonalds because she only cooks it for you and a few friends?

If you answer anything but yes, you're a hypocrite and a moron.

I'm not married.  So you're a moron for assuming you backed me into a corner, want to try again?

My mom used to cook.  McDonalds was MUCH better than my mom's cooking; hell millions of people eat McDonalds all over the world.  Great food. 

[Ron]

I've been listening to U2 ever since I was a little kid.

I LOVE The Joshua Tree and Zooropa is one of my absolute favorite albums.

But I HATE how U2 has chosen to be marketed. I really dislike most of their music after POP. I hate opening The Rolling Stone and seeing something about Bono in there every damn time. I think they are incredibly overrated and overhyped for their modern work.

I just watched their new documentary From The Sky Down today....it really gave me a new appreciation for the the old U2. But nowadays Bono seems to think that money can buy success (the mega-shows, the Spiderman broadway play)...I suppose it has brought success so far, but I think people will start to see through the facade if they don't start creating some original eno-less music soon.

It's easy to blame it all on Bono, but hell the whole BAND must be down with the asinine way in which he promotes the band.  I'm with you, the last album of theirs I could stand was pop.  It was great, though. 

[hypehat]

Ron, is your wife's cooking not as good as McDonalds because she only cooks it for you and a few friends?

If you answer anything but yes, you're a hypocrite and a moron.

I'm not married.  So you're a moron for assuming you backed me into a corner, want to try again?

My mom used to cook.  McDonalds was MUCH better than my mom's cooking; hell millions of people eat McDonalds all over the world.  Great food. 

Ok, sorry for a) sorry for assuming you were married, and b) your complete and crippling lack of understanding about personal taste and discretion.

[rab2591]

I've been listening to U2 ever since I was a little kid.

I LOVE The Joshua Tree and Zooropa is one of my absolute favorite albums.

But I HATE how U2 has chosen to be marketed. I really dislike most of their music after POP. I hate opening The Rolling Stone and seeing something about Bono in there every damn time. I think they are incredibly overrated and overhyped for their modern work.

I just watched their new documentary From The Sky Down today....it really gave me a new appreciation for the the old U2. But nowadays Bono seems to think that money can buy success (the mega-shows, the Spiderman broadway play)...I suppose it has brought success so far, but I think people will start to see through the facade if they don't start creating some original eno-less music soon.

It's easy to blame it all on Bono, but hell the whole BAND must be down with the asinine way in which he promotes the band.  I'm with you, the last album of theirs I could stand was pop.  It was great, though. 

Agreed. I guess since Bono is the outspoken frontman it's easy to pin all the blame on him.

And I disagree that VDPs is overrated. I guess it's all a matter of opinion, but to me he's been very consistent at making phenomenal music for over the last 45 years. The fact that people from every spectrum of the music industry use him for his talents says something about his stature.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

The exercise is impossible unless there is an agreed-upon set of guidelines as to what is being rated (or overrated) and by whom. Otherwise it immediately devolves into a mishmash of "I don't like so-and-so," "I haven't heard of so-and-so," "I like so-and-so (and thus must put down someone else)," "that genre of music or culture doesn't resonate with me and thus it can't be good," etc.

Ron is establishing his criteria, but those aren't by any means universal. So if he uses those, and I use mine, and Ian uses his, where does it get us? Same old message board arguments as always.

For the record, the Velvet Underground has been among the most rewarding listening experiences of my life, without question. I rank them with Beach Boys, Beatles, and Dylan. They aren't overrated by me, because that is their effect on me. And if they are by some other measure , to some other people, overrated, that doesn't involve me. Someone said the talk of Beatles as best ever has to stop. I also disagree with that: they're right in the conversation for me, as to effect on me. So why should they be eliminated just because someone else doesn't agree?

The more honest way to approach the topic--without using objective measures--might be "what famous bands don't you like?"

Gotta agree with my man Luther regarding Velvet Underground.

There's nothing overrated about them at all. In fact, I find them actually underrated.

So, what makes a good band? I dunno: what are the important things? Good songs? Lou is one of the greatest song writers ever! Good vocals? They certainly had that part down! Lou might not be the greatest singer, but he has personality and authority and wrote INTERESTING songs about interesting things. Bouncing off that were Jon's euro cool vocals and Doug's sweet/innocent thing, Maureen's childlike cute thing, and it all worked. Good players? Lou and Sterling were one of the (actually, in my mind THE) greatest twin guitar foils in rock n roll. They both had very distinct styles that worked together beautifully. Good drummer? Well, that seems to be a comfortably accepted requirement for a band being worth a crap. Sure, Moe isn't Ginger Baker, but who needs that merda anyway? She kept a solid/relentless beat, played VERY creative parts and knew what a damn drummer is useful for and she nailed it in high style! And then there was Nico! No explanation necessary.

As for overrated, unfortunately I shall have to say The Beatles without batting an eyelash. I LOVE the Beatles. I mean LOVE them! But, it never fails, whenever I put them on I'm sitting there thinking "Damn The Beatles are the greatest band ever" while at the same time thinking about how many other bands did so many things better than them but still I keep reminding myself "Yeah, but they're the best band ever! Really"! Seems if I have to keep reminding myself of that fact, it's truthfulness might be in question.

[Jason]

C'mon guys even Brian Wilson considers them the best band of all time so you guys have to follow your leader lol

I have my own personal taste... LOL

hey hey hey i respect that

Than don't say that everybody has to love the Beatles as the greatest band ever.

U MAD BRO? smh u gotta oblige teh 15yrold classic rock fanz they think they kno everything bout musics.

[Newguy562]

C'mon guys even Brian Wilson considers them the best band of all time so you guys have to follow your leader lol

I have my own personal taste... LOL

hey hey hey i respect that

Than don't say that everybody has to love the Beatles as the greatest band ever.

U MAD BRO? smh u gotta oblige teh 15yrold classic rock fanz they think they kno everything bout musics.

u really think i don't know about "music"?

[Chocolate Shake Man]

McCartney has more talent in his dick than anybody on this board has in their entire family. 

Please tell me you have proof of this.

[Chocolate Shake Man]

Anyway, talking about someone as being overrated or underrated is already giving too much credit to critics since we're using what we perceive as their cumulative "rating" as some kind of evaluative benchmark.