Singers/Groups That You Consider Over-Rated.

[Newguy562]

Want overrated?

Led Zeppelin
The Grateful Dead
Post-Bends Radiohead
Post-Sell Out Who
Post-Satanic Majesties Stones
Post-Dark Side Floyd
Yes, ELP, Genesis, Rush, etc.
Kiss
Aerosmith
Allman Brothers
Skynyrd
Foreigner

noooooo :/..ok well radiohead is a bit over-rated but they do have alot of experimental masterpieces too
i love the first 3 who albums the most but i must admit who's next is a solid album as well and tommy & quadrophenia is as creative as it gets .
now as far as pink floyd goes my favorite album by them is animals so you should check it out thats post dark side

[SMiLE Brian]

Rockandroll, you should write a full essay or book on this subject because your posts in this thread have been full of insight and important infomation.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

A fascinating discussion, great posts all around. Regarding Pitchfork, and other venues for music criticism and reviews...

Aren't too many music critics doing not much more than trying to convince others to agree with them? Perhaps many assume the majority of the readership they're speaking to either did not attend that concert last night or did not hear that album for themselves, therefore, let us put this opinion in your head before you can form your own.

I'm cynical, I know it...

I don't know. That's quite possible. I tend to think that the critic probably quite earnestly believes they are doing a great service to music listeners everywhere by providing them with a reasonable review that could help the listener decide whether or not to get the album. My problem is that the very structure of a review in a music magazine, journal, blog, etc. means that the review itself will almost always be shallow, offering nothing of real substance and more over the criteria for evalution is typically shaped by trends.

Also, when I say the Pitchfork crowd, I mean a group of people larger than the group of people who read Pitchfork. My use of the word Pitchfork is just so people understand what I mean - but I basically mean a group of people who are about as culturally privileged as the baby boomers were to the 60s. People who would currently put artists like Bon Iver, Grizzly Bear, MGMT, and the like in the "great" music category.

Pitchfork seems to me to be a bit of a false organization who's primary objective is to "elevate" such bands as you listed (Bon Iver and such) into the "great music for all-time" universe. They have been generally kind to The Beach Boys but the whole enterprise seems hollow to me.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Kinda like they're taking over for the "All Music Guide" type of merda us older guys had to suffer through. Sort of the "official history book on rock" that slagged off every post Pet Sounds Beach Boys album with one star or half a star ratings.

[SMiLE Brian]

A fascinating discussion, great posts all around. Regarding Pitchfork, and other venues for music criticism and reviews...

Aren't too many music critics doing not much more than trying to convince others to agree with them? Perhaps many assume the majority of the readership they're speaking to either did not attend that concert last night or did not hear that album for themselves, therefore, let us put this opinion in your head before you can form your own.

I'm cynical, I know it...

I don't know. That's quite possible. I tend to think that the critic probably quite earnestly believes they are doing a great service to music listeners everywhere by providing them with a reasonable review that could help the listener decide whether or not to get the album. My problem is that the very structure of a review in a music magazine, journal, blog, etc. means that the review itself will almost always be shallow, offering nothing of real substance and more over the criteria for evalution is typically shaped by trends.

Also, when I say the Pitchfork crowd, I mean a group of people larger than the group of people who read Pitchfork. My use of the word Pitchfork is just so people understand what I mean - but I basically mean a group of people who are about as culturally privileged as the baby boomers were to the 60s. People who would currently put artists like Bon Iver, Grizzly Bear, MGMT, and the like in the "great" music category.

Pitchfork seems to me to be a bit of a false organization who's primary objective is to "elevate" such bands as you listed (Bon Iver and such) into the "great music for all-time" universe. They have been generally kind to The Beach Boys but the whole enterprise seems hollow to me.

I'm glad they are giving the band artistic appreciation, the BBs didn't for two decades. (1980-1998) Plus the back catalog wasn't appreciated as much.

[BananaLouie]

Look who made number 5! 

http://listverse.com/2008/11/21/top-10-most-overrated-bands/

[Chocolate Shake Man]

Kinda like they're taking over for the "All Music Guide" type of merda us older guys had to suffer through. Sort of the "official history book on rock" that slagged off every post Pet Sounds Beach Boys album with one star or half a star ratings.

I would pretty much agree with that assessment.

[Chocolate Shake Man]

Rockandroll, you should write a full essay or book on this subject because your posts in this thread have been full of insight and important infomation.

Thank you! That's nice to hear.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Look who made number 5! 

http://listverse.com/2008/11/21/top-10-most-overrated-bands/

I couldn't disagree with #'s 1, 2 and 5 more!

[SMiLE Brian]

Look who made number 5! 

http://listverse.com/2008/11/21/top-10-most-overrated-bands/

I couldn't disagree with #'s 1, 2 and 5 more!

The bonus band was the Ramones....

[Heysaboda]

[Beach Boys, Jan & Dean --> The Byrds, Buffalo Springfield, Love, The Monkees, The Seeds --> Neil Young, Harry Nilsson, Randy Newman

RNR: this gets my vote for "Post of the Month".

By the way, you need to add:

--> John Hartford, Mason Williams, Biff Rose

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Look who made number 5! 

http://listverse.com/2008/11/21/top-10-most-overrated-bands/

I couldn't disagree with #'s 1, 2 and 5 more!

The bonus band was the Ramones....

wasn't too happy to see that either 

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Man, I REALLY wish some "journalist" would have the balls to put The Beatles on some crackpot list like that.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Weird how he throws AC/DC right at the front of his list when all the criticizes them for is their Wall-Mart deal/Guitar Hero thing. He seems to have no problem with them as a band or their output, but a bit  LATE career marketing bollocks makes them one of the most overrated bands of all-time?

Sheesh!

[Heysaboda]

What can I tell you. The fact of matter is that Neil Young has been put on a pedestal for all these years so you would expect his lyrics to have some value (like Dylans) or to see some quality in his songwriting (like Lennon/Mccartney) but it's not there.

It is there. In fact, I appreciate Neil Young more than Dylan though both would be in my top 5 favourite artists.

Even Bob loves Neil! He even named dropped him in a song! That right there says a lot!

Well, I assume everyone here knows that Neil Young name dropped the Beach Boys (yes, indeed!) in his beautiful song "Long May You Run".

It's a wonderful, beautiful song, and it's clear that The Beach Boys have a special place in Neil's heart.  By the way, Neil humorously wrote later that the song was about BOTH his first car AND his first girl.

Check out his version on his Unplugged album.

It's a song about friendship, and loss.  The third verse:

"Maybe the Beach Boys have got you now, with those waves singing Caroline, No
 Rollin' down that empty ocean road
 Get into the surf on time."

Honestly, I can't think of that song without a tear coming to my eye!

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Yup! Has the same affect on me.

I spend much of my teenage years in So Cal piling into a car and heading to the Beach with some girl on my mind.

[hypehat]

I always knew you were a sound guy, rockandroll 

[I. Spaceman]

Want overrated?

Led Zeppelin
The Grateful Dead
Post-Sell Out Who
Post-Satanic Majesties Stones
Post-Dark Side Floyd
Kiss
Aerosmith
Allman Brothers
Skynyrd

You forgot food, oxygen and blowjobs!

[guitarfool2002]

http://listverse.com/2008/11/21/top-10-most-overrated-bands/

Pearl Jam

[Summertime Blooz]

Replace The Beach Boys with Kiss.

[positivemusic]

Just a personal taste thing, but I'd say The Rolling Stones are extremely overrated. Before buying 40 Licks I was only familiar with "Brown Sugar" and "Paint It Black," with a passing familiarity of "Start Me Up." And after hearing 40 Licks, the same still holds true.

Maybe the love for The Rolling Stones comes from album tracks not on that set that I have yet to hear. But the greatest hits package just felt boring and repetitive.

I'm always open, though, so feel free to give examples of what to listen to of theirs.

[hypehat]

I'm fond of Sticky Fingers, myself - good ballads on the second side, Can't You Hear Me Knocking... an actual zip on the trousers of the vinyl

[Newguy562]

AC/DC is Overrated 

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

I think AC/DC is very underrated actually!

They've sold so many records people just take them for granted and almost dismiss them as "great"

[Newguy562]

I think AC/DC is very underrated actually!

They've sold so many records people just take them for granted and almost dismiss them as "great"

3 chords and the same drum beat is all it takes to play every single song they made.