What "commemorative releases" should we expect for the 50th anniversary?

[Andrew G. Doe]

I think you mean, like this:

But why in the hell has he reworked She Believes in Love Again?  Reckon that's a typical BJ put-on - possibly even for our benefit!

Nope. 

Grrrrr...

[Jim V.]

I was kinda excited to hear a new Bruce Johnston song, and we get "She Believes In Love Again" AGAIN! Eh, whatever, I don't hate that song, but I'm not a fan of it. I guess we'll see.

[Bedroom Tapes]

I think it'd be cool if the new album came with a bonus/second disc of rarities.

[PhilCohen]

Bad news for Phil -- the new album is done and being mixed. On schedule for June 5th release.

http://www.billboard.com/news#/news/beach-boys-album-it-s-all-brand-new-1006844362.story

Even if they send the digital masters to the pressing plant today, it is still questionable whether they can get the discs into stores by June 5th. It takes 5 to 6 weeks to get the CD's pressed. Good luck!

Phil, you've been associated with small, quasi-independent labels that specialise in archival reissues on a limited scale. Capitol are (still) a major label with facilities at their disposal far larger than anything you've experienced, and this is a major, major release. The date June 5th is all over the place, and cannot be delayed by anything more than 24 hours because of the tie-in with the PBS TV special. That date was set months ago and they will have 'booked' the time and the facilities to get the album manufactured and out to the shops As quickly as they can. Concisely, you're talking bollocks again, as usual.

You know what I think would be the one thing make your day, give you an intense orgasm of pleasure ? If the entire band were involved in some fatal incident, and Capitol, out of respect, decided to pull all the C50 products from schedule permanently... because then you'd be able to say "see, I told you it would never be released". And you would, you know you would. I believe this, I truly do, because for the last 18 months or so, ever since the Smile rumors started circulating, you've not said one single positive thing about that or the current projects but wallowed in the misery of telling us all that they would never happen. In this respect, you are truly a sick and twisted person, and I hope you decide to get some treatment for it. We don't want your kind here.

Andrew, none of the major labels own CD pressing plants any more. They all rely on outside suppliers to press the discs.  Why haven't I said anything positive about the projects that you refer to? Because we have no information about what those projects are. How can we discuss archival projects whose contents are being kept 100% secret?

[pixletwin]

DO NOT FEED THE TROLL

(maybe he will go away if we don't feed his attention whoring)

[Andrew G. Doe]

 Why haven't I said anything positive about the projects that you refer to? Because we have no information about what those projects are. How can we discuss archival projects whose contents are being kept 100% secret?

I'm talking about the new album to be released on June 5th, not anything archival. You say it won't be released then (if ever), all the available evidence says it will. Never said Capitol had their own pressing plant, just that they had facilities at their disposal, which they doubtless booked back in the winter.

[John Manning]

I think you mean, like this:

But why in the hell has he reworked She Believes in Love Again?  Reckon that's a typical BJ put-on - possibly even for our benefit!

Nope. 

Grrrrr...

So Andrew, you seen a tentative track list? More than the most of us know?

[Andrew G. Doe]

I think you mean, like this:

But why in the hell has he reworked She Believes in Love Again?  Reckon that's a typical BJ put-on - possibly even for our benefit!

Nope. 

Grrrrr...

So Andrew, you seen a tentative track list? More than the most of us know?

You remember the TV series "House of Cards" ?   

[PhilCohen]

I'm not saying that a reunion album won't be released, but the longer that the group procrastinates about finalizing mixes, establishing an album title & track listing, the less chance that they have of getting the album onto the marketplace by June 5,2012. The logistics of manufacturing, printing & distribution are not imaginary things.

[John Manning]

I think you mean, like this:

But why in the hell has he reworked She Believes in Love Again?  Reckon that's a typical BJ put-on - possibly even for our benefit!

Nope. 

Grrrrr...

So Andrew, you seen a tentative track list? More than the most of us know?

You remember the TV series "House of Cards" ?   

Is that the one where Bruce Johnston plays an aging rock star who single-handedly resuscitates his career by rerecording overlooked 80s  catalogue tracks but gets eaten by a velociraptor just before his single hits Number One?

[Andrew G. Doe]

I think you mean, like this:

But why in the hell has he reworked She Believes in Love Again?  Reckon that's a typical BJ put-on - possibly even for our benefit!

Nope. 

Grrrrr...

So Andrew, you seen a tentative track list? More than the most of us know?

You remember the TV series "House of Cards" ?   

Is that the one where Bruce Johnston plays an aging rock star who single-handedly resuscitates his career by rerecording overlooked 80s  catalogue tracks but gets eaten by a velociraptor just before his single hits Number One?

Not... exactly.

Not at all, truth be told.

[Stegibo]

I'm not saying that a reunion album won't be released, but the longer that the group procrastinates about finalizing mixes, establishing an album title & track listing, the less chance that they have of getting the album onto the marketplace by June 5,2012. The logistics of manufacturing, printing & distribution are not imaginary things.

Well Brian was talking about not wanting to be around zany Mike & Bruce while the reunion had already been in the works.

[John Manning]

I'm not saying that a reunion album won't be released, but the longer that the group procrastinates about finalizing mixes, establishing an album title & track listing, the less chance that they have of getting the album onto the marketplace by June 5,2012. The logistics of manufacturing, printing & distribution are not imaginary things.

Well Brian was talking about not wanting to be around zany Mike & Bruce while the reunion had already been in the works.

Phil's point is entirely valid if taken at face value. If they really are still recording, mixing, mastering selecting between cuts etc then they would be taking it to the wire somewhat, under normal circumstances.

However, I suspect that Brian's creative team has been working on this for longer than we've appreciated and that what's happening now is some final tweaking, maybe even less.

I also suspect that the machinery is set rumble the second a product is delivered to Capitol. Pressing plant time will be booked, booklet printing slots allocated etc etc; just a matter of filling a few remaining gaps.

This has all be in the works longer than we've been led to believe.

It's not that long since Brian was stating categorically that he'd never work with these lads again, when he already apparently was doing just that, or at least putting down tracks for them to auto tune their harmonies over the top of.

I doubt Phil's really been taken in by the mock cloak of deception; it just serves his type of trolling perfectly. He'll continue to wind us up for months to come.

[SMiLE Brian]

I'm not sure anymore if Phil is trolling or delusional. I want him banned regardless.

[Eireannach]

ABBA finished recording The Visitors on 11/14 and it was released 16 days later on 11/30 - this was 1981.  Just sayin'...

[PhilCohen]

I'm not sure anymore if Phil is trolling or delusional. I want him banned regardless.

....so that you'll have a boring forum where everyone is an Andrew G. Doe Yes-man, and where everyone agrees on everything!

[Stegibo]

Yes, sir! I agree!

[John Manning]

I'm not sure anymore if Phil is trolling or delusional. I want him banned regardless.

....so that you'll have a boring forum where everyone is an Andrew G. Doe Yes-man, and where everyone agrees on everything!

Phil, you have to understand that your own chain of posts have frequently been tedious as hell. Vapid and pointless. Depressing and pessimistic without cause.

Liven up lad.

It's summer.

The Beach Boys are in town…

[SMiLE Brian]

I'm not sure anymore if Phil is trolling or delusional. I want him banned regardless.

....so that you'll have a boring forum where everyone is an Andrew G. Doe Yes-man, and where everyone agrees on everything!

No, we will have AGD and Fishmonk creating a balance on the board.

[pixletwin]

Since apparently I am the only one not willing to feed Phil's ego, please, by all means, carry on feeding it. 

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

In Phil's defense, didn't Neil Young take about 5 months mixing "Weld," permanently damaging his hearing in the process? Apparently he fired engineer after engineer until he was actually locked out of his own barn-studio and the album finished by others..... And this was the work of just one crazy person rather than 5!

And where is My Bloody Valentines fabled follow up to Loveless? Didn't they put Creation Records into bankruptcy attempting to record it?

I'm just saying there is precedent for where Phil is coming from.

[SMiLE Brian]

In Phil's defense, didn't Neil Young take about 5 months mixing "Weld," permanently damaging his hearing in the process? Apparently he fired engineer after engineer until he was actually locked out of his own barn-studio and the album finished by others..... And this was the work of just one crazy person rather than 5!

And where is My Bloody Valentines fabled follow up to Loveless? Didn't they put Creation Records into bankruptcy attempting to record it?

I'm just saying there is precedent for where Phil is coming from.

The MBV followup to loveless is the new smile.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

So, we'll have a virtual box set in about 25 more years?? 

[SMiLE Brian]

So, we'll have a virtual box set in about 25 more years?? 

Yes, Kevin Shields is also like BW when it comes to releasing unfinished albums. I heard the follow up is really far out.

[PhilCohen]

Is what we're being put through(to extract a reunion album & archival projects from The Beach Boys) really worth it? There's no doubt that the best Beach Boys songs and versions are already in our hands, and we've now got the most sought item(the Smile recordings).