The 1990 Hotel Tape

[Smilin Ed H]

"Yeah, Jeff got caught playing with Mona." 

[Aegir]

I like that Brian refers to John Stamos as just "Stamos". it's like a boss thing. "Stamos! why haven't you completed the analysis of the internal audit?! I wanted that on my desk two hours ago!" "STAMOS! Market share is down 2%!"

[Zander]

In an interview in one of the fanzines, Jeff discussed why the Beach Boys fired him...and it had nothing to do with the "hotel tape."

Would you tell us what he said was the reason ? I never heard about it...

I've never heard about this either - can some one elaborate?

[Autotune]

In an interview in one of the fanzines, Jeff discussed why the Beach Boys fired him...and it had nothing to do with the "hotel tape."

Would you tell us what he said was the reason ? I never heard about it...

I've never heard about this either - can some one elaborate?

Private family stuff. Was discussed in depth in the defunct Male Ego board back in the day, nevertheless.
And Jeff has mentioned in an interview that he had made some personal mistakes in his life, or words to that effect.

[Mike's Beard]

I like that Brian refers to John Stamos as just "Stamos". it's like a boss thing. "Stamos! why haven't you completed the analysis of the internal audit?! I wanted that on my desk two hours ago!" "STAMOS! Market share is down 2%!"

If only he'd said "Stamos if we reform in 20 years please stay the f*ck away".

[southbay]

That version on youtube is pretty severely edited, but you get the idea. I have always understood it was actually Kevin Leslie who did the taping.  You can in fact hear Brian talking to"Kevin" at points in the tape, and it would be consistent with Landy's orders that every move of Brian's be monitored at that time. This was during the BB's tour of Canada in July 1990 and Brian was "allowed" to fill in for an absent ML to meet contractual obligations.

Wasn't this at Stamos' wedding ?

No.  His wedding was many years later, post Landy.  The Beach Boys (sans Brian, who was at the wedding) did play a few songs at the reception

[SamMcK]

Did they do the Beatles' Please Please Me?

and did they do Please Mister Postman?

[NatureShowInStereo]

Did they do the Beatles' Please Please Me?

and did they do Please Mister Postman?

[Aegir]

this PM thing is so stupid.

[rogerlancelot]

this PM thing is so stupid.

How about using AM instead? As in that Atrocious Medley that was released in 1982? That idea hasn't been used to death.

[Iron Horse-Apples]

this PM thing is so stupid.

My thoughts on David Cameron exactly

[Jay]

Blah blah blah, PM, blah blah blah...

[over and over]

 

[Jay]

Subtle with a capital "b". 

[Ron]

The best moment of the hotel tape is when Foskett requests Surf's Up and Brian replies "That's kitty!".

HAHA, yeah.  I like them singing "Youv'e Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" the best.  They just let it all hang out and sing their hearts out, really cool to watch.  You can tell they obviously all worship that song like the rest of humanity does. 

[BriansBack]

Does anyone still have the video in question? Have the audio but would love to see the visual of this!

[chaki]

no but the audio is rad. when brian remembers add some music its like wow.

[the professor]

Is there an update on the YouTube link? The one from several posts ago doesn't seem to work at all. Thank you very much. I would like to see whatever is already public.

[ForHerCryingSoul]

I just heard this mentioned on another post...  I'm a bit confused as to what happened on it?  Was it really filmed by the surf Nazis??

[Gerry]

I've seen the long version of this but not in quite awhile. What struck me about it was , if you didn't know who the three people on the tape were, you'd think that Bruce was the really talented, professional . There he is playing the piano and singing beautfully
(Disney Girls etc.) and then there's Brian ; singing off key and playing his usual brand of chopsticks piano and performing that damn Rock 'n Roll tune which seemed to have become his '90's version of Ding Dang.

[mikeddonn]

That version on youtube is pretty severely edited, but you get the idea. I have always understood it was actually Kevin Leslie who did the taping.  You can in fact hear Brian talking to"Kevin" at points in the tape, and it would be consistent with Landy's orders that every move of Brian's be monitored at that time. This was during the BB's tour of Canada in July 1990 and Brian was "allowed" to fill in for an absent ML to meet contractual obligations.

I've just read through this thread.  Brian also played with them at Cape Cod, July 4th and Mike was at that show.  So it seems as though Brian wasn't just filling in for Mike.  Rocker also wondered if maybe it was Stamos' wedding?

[southbay]

That version on youtube is pretty severely edited, but you get the idea. I have always understood it was actually Kevin Leslie who did the taping.  You can in fact hear Brian talking to"Kevin" at points in the tape, and it would be consistent with Landy's orders that every move of Brian's be monitored at that time. This was during the BB's tour of Canada in July 1990 and Brian was "allowed" to fill in for an absent ML to meet contractual obligations.

I've just read through this thread.  Brian also played with them at Cape Cod, July 4th and Mike was at that show.  So it seems as though Brian wasn't just filling in for Mike.  Rocker also wondered if maybe it was Stamos' wedding?

No, this was not at Stamos' wedding.  Both events you are referencing in your post are rather infamous in BB history. The 7-4-90 concert in Cape Cod as being Jeff Foskett's last ever show with the "Beach Boys" until C50 as he was fired thereafter, and this hotel tape which is legendary. The tape was indeed recorded by Kevin Leslie during a tour of Canada in 1990.  Mike was indeed back by the Cape Cod Show--that was July 4 after all and it wasn't unusual for Brian to hit the 4th of July back in those days.

[Douchepool]

If I remember correctly no one filled in for Michael on the 1990 dates he missed; Carl, Al, and Bruce just went out themselves with the usual backup members.

[J.G. Dev]

If I remember correctly no one filled in for Michael on the 1990 dates he missed; Carl, Al, and Bruce just went out themselves with the usual backup members.

I thought Gerry Beckley did

[HeyJude]

If I remember correctly no one filled in for Michael on the 1990 dates he missed; Carl, Al, and Bruce just went out themselves with the usual backup members.

Mike, Carl, and Al all missed some shows here and there during 1990. I believe the “In Concert” book mentions Brian filling in for Al for a few gigs at some point.

For the May-June 1990 shows that Mike missed, Brian didn’t fill in as I recall. Gerry Beckley sat in with the band, but didn’t “fill in” for Mike in that he didn’t sing Mike’s leads (other than a bit on “Sloop John B” as I recall). I’ve read one account of a late May show where it was characterized that Jeff Foskett sang most of Mike’s leads.

But there is also a recording of the June 2nd Barrie, Ontario show where Foskett isn’t present (I think Matt Jardine took the falsetto parts), and Al sings Mike’s leads. Mike missed those May-June shows because he was doing a tour in Japan with his sideband (“Endless Summer Beach Band” or whatever it was called), and I thought Foskett was part of that side-band (I’ve seen some Japan TV appearances during that Mike tour, and I can’t recall if Foskett was in the band), so I’m not sure how Foskett made it to some of the Mike-less shows but not others. Foskett definitely was absent for some shows around May or June, but was back for the July 4th show before permanently departing.

There’s also a recording from a show purporting to be from Tennessee at some point in 1990 where Al is absent, and nobody is filling in for him. I think Matt takes most of Al’s leads for that show.

Carl also missed a few gigs around September. A late September show from Tahoe circulates on a camcorder video, and they had a fill-in lead guitarist, but no fill-in vocalist. I think Bruce sang some of Carl’s lead parts (“Kokomo” for instance).

So typically, they didn’t call for Brian to fill in when one member was absent.

I think most of the corporate guidelines and/or tour riders at the time must have stipulated they had to have three BBs on stage. So I’m not sure why Brian “filled in” for either Al or Mike for a few gigs, unless specific shows/promoters wanted four BBs on stage.