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« Reply #1000 on: March 11, 2011, 02:30:46 PM »

The Hoffman board is making very interesting reading - hardly anyone is buying his explanations.

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Steve Hoffman says: "But you people put the project in serious jeopardy. Next time should I just say nothing and let you sink it?"

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Who knew that a bunch of fans chattering on a messageboard had the ability to "sink" a Beach Boys project?  Too bad the internet wasn't around when the BBs decided to cover Wipeout with the Fat Boys.

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« Reply #1001 on: March 11, 2011, 02:38:52 PM »

The Hoffman board is making very interesting reading - hardly anyone is buying his explanations.

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Steve Hoffman says: "But you people put the project in serious jeopardy. Next time should I just say nothing and let you sink it?"

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Who knew that a bunch of fans chattering on a messageboard had the ability to "sink" a Beach Boys project?  Too bad the internet wasn't around when the BBs decided to cover Wipeout with the Fat Boys.

Brilliant

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« Reply #1002 on: March 11, 2011, 02:45:40 PM »

You know what really floats my boat ? That in xx weeks, I can hold an officially sanctioned release of Smile in my hands and stare at it. Maybe even stroke it a little. That, my friends, is what rings my bell.

Surprise - all my Smile Sessions-related posts just got wiped from the Hoffman board.
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« Reply #1003 on: March 11, 2011, 03:10:26 PM »

You know what really floats my boat ? That in xx weeks, I can hold an officially sanctioned release of Smile in my hands and stare at it. Maybe even stroke it a little. That, my friends, is what rings my bell.

Surprise - all my Smile Sessions-related posts just got wiped from the Hoffman board.

Another board another ban lol
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« Reply #1004 on: March 11, 2011, 03:17:20 PM »

You know what really floats my boat ? That in xx weeks, I can hold an officially sanctioned release of Smile in my hands and stare at it. Maybe even stroke it a little. That, my friends, is what rings my bell.

Surprise - all my Smile Sessions-related posts just got wiped from the Hoffman board.

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« Reply #1005 on: March 11, 2011, 03:22:51 PM »

Back to the topic at hand.  I find it amazing that there is no 'official' confirmation of Smile.

If it was legit, you'd think they'd want a big buzz building on this (though based on my marketing skills, I'm a idiot).

To those doubters,it sounds like AGD feels strongly that this is happening; so I'd bet on it.

Guess Capitol Records read my post.  LOL  Well, they probably read AGD's posts.

And you Al Jardine naysayers owe him an apology I think.
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« Reply #1006 on: March 11, 2011, 03:51:00 PM »

When reading the link confirming the release I started to well up, this is the best news ever! Rock! w00t! High Five
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« Reply #1007 on: March 11, 2011, 03:54:47 PM »

Fantastic news !!


Now the question: Will they tour behind the album ?  Cheesy
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« Reply #1008 on: March 11, 2011, 03:55:44 PM »

Nope, you guys can always argue about whether they got the sequencing right, etc..



I hope Dom Priore has nothing to do with the sequencing.
Well, before the 2004 re-recorded "Smile", Mr.Priore's running order was considered by many to be definitive, and as for the running order advised in the 2nd edition of the "Look Listen Vibrate Smile" book, Priore CLAIMED that he consulted with Brian Wilson & Carol Kaye.

Carole put River Deep Mountain High right after Prayer... (did you know she played bass on Prayer?)  Wink

Yup, I knew that.  She also played bass on "Rescue Me" by Fontella Bass, "Silly Love Songs" by Paul McCartney, and "Give it Away" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers.  Also, she was the orginal bassist for Journey.
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« Reply #1009 on: March 11, 2011, 03:57:07 PM »

What set Steve Hoffman off?  Anyone willing to share the 'Reader's Digest' version of what transpired? 
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« Reply #1010 on: March 11, 2011, 04:02:38 PM »

What set Steve Hoffman off?  Anyone willing to share the 'Reader's Digest' version of what transpired? 

Basically, he 'explained' why he'd said the project wasn't happening - because he'd been told to by Capitol, otherwise they'd pull the plug because fans were pestering them (seriously) - and most of the posters in the thread found that less than believable. I put forward, politely, my understanding of events, which centered on Alan's clanger and retraction. I guess some folk don't like to be contradicted.
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« Reply #1011 on: March 11, 2011, 04:05:15 PM »

What set Steve Hoffman off?  Anyone willing to share the 'Reader's Digest' version of what transpired? 

Basically, he 'explained' why he'd said the project wasn't happening - because he'd been told to by Capitol, otherwise they'd pull the plug because fans were pestering them (seriously) - and most of the posters in the thread found that less than believable. I put forward, politely, my understanding of events, which centered on Alan's clanger and retraction. I guess some folk don't like to be contradicted.

I'm fairly certain that the entire thread has now been deleted - I just tried accessing the page through my web history and got a "You may not have sufficient privileges to access this page" line.
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« Reply #1012 on: March 11, 2011, 04:06:39 PM »

Phil says that's SOP - you don't toe the party line, you get banned.

And yes, you're right - the whole 15+ page thread has gone.
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« Reply #1013 on: March 11, 2011, 04:08:55 PM »

What a lousy forum.
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« Reply #1014 on: March 11, 2011, 04:12:01 PM »

Who cares about Steve Hoffman?
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« Reply #1015 on: March 11, 2011, 04:12:47 PM »

That was a really interesting thread, a two parter actually.

Was only half way through it. What a f*** head
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« Reply #1016 on: March 11, 2011, 04:47:16 PM »

Question, what if they claim to only use the original SMiLE sessions, does that mean they won't use the finished vocals to "Cabin Essence"? Which version of "Heroes And Villains"? How about "Surf's Up"? Do they use the '71 version or possibly use the demo to put together a composite '66/'67 version? Personally, however they wanna do it is fine with me. I mean, obviously they will probably rope in the 20/20 version of "Cabinessence" but I do wonder about how they will handle "Heroes" and "Surf's Up".
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« Reply #1017 on: March 11, 2011, 05:01:55 PM »

Question, what if they claim to only use the original SMiLE sessions, does that mean they won't use the finished vocals to "Cabin Essence"? Which version of "Heroes And Villains"? How about "Surf's Up"? Do they use the '71 version or possibly use the demo to put together a composite '66/'67 version? Personally, however they wanna do it is fine with me. I mean, obviously they will probably rope in the 20/20 version of "Cabinessence" but I do wonder about how they will handle "Heroes" and "Surf's Up".

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« Reply #1018 on: March 11, 2011, 05:26:46 PM »

I assume the statement regarding the approximation of the album appearing on three sides of vinyl means it will replicate the three movements of BWPS.

Not necessarily.  They may be spreading whatever tracks they're using over three sides for better fidelity.   The more you cram on a vinyl side, the worse it sounds. (Check out Todd Rundgren's "A Wizard, A True Star as a perfect example.)
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« Reply #1019 on: March 11, 2011, 05:46:27 PM »

What set Steve Hoffman off?  Anyone willing to share the 'Reader's Digest' version of what transpired? 

Basically, he 'explained' why he'd said the project wasn't happening - because he'd been told to by Capitol, otherwise they'd pull the plug because fans were pestering them (seriously) - and most of the posters in the thread found that less than believable. I put forward, politely, my understanding of events, which centered on Alan's clanger and retraction. I guess some folk don't like to be contradicted.

Hoffman lied?  Geez, what else does he lie about?
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« Reply #1020 on: March 11, 2011, 05:50:05 PM »

Well i guess my mate that told me what was going on was right!! Yey us!!
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« Reply #1021 on: March 11, 2011, 06:42:15 PM »

Fantastic news !!


Now the question: Will they tour behind the album ?  Cheesy


The Beach Boys most anticipated album and 40 years late. Going by the bands history? A bunt, although a 'Beach Boys SMiLE Live' would be a home run!
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« Reply #1022 on: March 11, 2011, 07:13:52 PM »

I tell you what, I feel good now about SMILE being vindicated, that is, in a prepared official statement.  I went on the blueboard last month, and it seemed like I was fighting tooth & nail with some of the members about my interview with Al being false or poorly researched.  Just hope they can get it out soon.

Would SMILE have a chance of charting on the Billboard 200?  Maybe this is completely wrong, but I'm thinking with it being an archival release, it would have to make a specific chart.
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« Reply #1023 on: March 11, 2011, 07:17:08 PM »

Question, what if they claim to only use the original SMiLE sessions, does that mean they won't use the finished vocals to "Cabin Essence"? Which version of "Heroes And Villains"? How about "Surf's Up"? Do they use the '71 version or possibly use the demo to put together a composite '66/'67 version? Personally, however they wanna do it is fine with me. I mean, obviously they will probably rope in the 20/20 version of "Cabinessence" but I do wonder about how they will handle "Heroes" and "Surf's Up".


Here's a new interview with ML:

http://www.billboard.com/#/features/beach-boys-engineer-talks-about-the-smile-1005071622.story
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« Reply #1024 on: March 11, 2011, 07:25:32 PM »

I tell you what, I feel good now about SMILE being vindicated, that is, in a prepared official statement.  I went on the blueboard last month, and it seemed like I was fighting tooth & nail with some of the members about my interview with Al being false or poorly researched.  Just hope they can get it out soon.

Would SMILE have a chance of charting on the Billboard 200?  Maybe this is completely wrong, but I'm thinking with it being an archival release, it would have to make a specific chart.

37 pages here before a official announcement! We had the faith. Wink
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