New Beach Boys release will make you 'SMiLE'

[Menace Wilson]

I've never been so excited to see a font in my life.

[bossaroo]

that is indeed the SMiLE font. and it is indeed EXCiTiNG!!!


also... "Little Pad" and "Tones" are way too similar to be unrelated.

[Rocker]

that is indeed the SMiLE font. and it is indeed EXCiTiNG!!!

Here the direct comparison

[Dunderhead]

Are we to assume that the two alternate versions are the ones that we've already had?

[bgas]

Are we to assume that the two alternate versions are the ones that we've already had?

I think they're top secret never before heard by anyone versions!  
Else why would Capitol release them?   

[Chris Brown]

Are we to assume that the two alternate versions are the ones that we've already had?

I'm guessing we get Brian's GV demo and the Cantina mix of Heroes.  

[Andrew G. Doe]

Are we to assume that the two alternate versions are the ones that we've already had?

Reasonable guess.

[Dunderhead]

The fact that they're "Early Take" and "Alternate Take" seem to indicate they are the same ones on the Smiley Smile twofer.

[Tilt Araiza]

I understand there is no standard font for that lettering like Pet Sounds is Cooper Black, it was either Frank Holmes or Capitol artists who drew it up for the cover. Maybe a graphic artist can chime in here.

"Font" and "Typeface" are misnomers, probably the best term for what Smile had is "logotype".  If you look at the lettering, identical letters have none identical designs.  The B in BEACH and the B in BOYS don't match.  Looking at the "Good Vibrations Good Vibrations Good Vibrations" I think there are three different styles of the letter O, too.  Also, the spacing of the letters just wouldn't be practical for a one-size-fits-all typeface.

The lower case "i" was like that purely because someone thought it looked nice. That's all.

Aw gee, does that mean we don't have to call that song "Good VibrAtioNs", either?

[pancakerecords]

I understand there is no standard font for that lettering like Pet Sounds is Cooper Black, it was either Frank Holmes or Capitol artists who drew it up for the cover. Maybe a graphic artist can chime in here.

"Font" and "Typeface" are misnomers, probably the best term for what Smile had is "logotype".  If you look at the lettering, identical letters have none identical designs.  The B in BEACH and the B in BOYS don't match.  Looking at the "Good Vibrations Good Vibrations Good Vibrations" I think there are three different styles of the letter O, too.  Also, the spacing of the letters just wouldn't be practical for a one-size-fits-all typeface.

The lower case "i" was like that purely because someone thought it looked nice. That's all.

Aw gee, does that mean we don't have to call that song "Good VibrAtioNs", either?

Not sure if it's still there, but at one point there was a downloadable font on the "ProjectSmile" yahoo group page that bore a close resemblance to the "SMiLE" type.

[Emdeeh]

There was once a font called Monkey Chunks that was close. However, there are several fonts out there by the same name, so be aware when searching for it.

Tilt Arazia, do you think the original Smile logotype was set on a Phototypositor or hand-drawn?  I'm leaning towards hand-drawn.

[superunison]

that is indeed the SMiLE font. and it is indeed EXCiTiNG!!!


also... "Little Pad" and "Tones" are way too similar to be unrelated.

...well, they both include slide guitar, however the chords, melody, and structure of the song are completely different, so I'd guess that they're pretty much unrelated.

[Jeff]

that is indeed the SMiLE font. and it is indeed EXCiTiNG!!!


also... "Little Pad" and "Tones" are way too similar to be unrelated.

...well, they both include slide guitar, however the chords, melody, and structure of the song are completely different, so I'd guess that they're pretty much unrelated.

I think there's much more of a resemblance between Little Pad and the so-called "country western" unused H&V section.

[bossaroo]

Superunison-

try humming the melody of "Little Pad" over top of "Tones/Tune X" ...when i say the melody, i mean the "doot-do-doots" (is that Al?) right after the steel guitar slide and the snapping fingers. different keys but it's basically the same song.

I didn't make this discovery, but it's unmistakable.

[c-man]

Superunison-

try humming the melody of "Little Pad" over top of "Tones/Tune X" ...when i say the melody, i mean the "doot-do-doots" (is that Al?)

It's Carl.

[buddhahat]

Bossaroo - I reme er reading about the similarities and that someone actually recorded a version comining pad and tones. I can hear it but not totally sold on it not just being a coincidence - especiially as it is apparently a Carl tune.

To the poster who pointed out thesimilarity between pad and western theme - I nver noticed it but there are similarities. Might be that little pad grew out of western theme (via Hawaiian song) and is thus an another offspring of heroes. Fascinating. Really makes me want to hear this Hawaiian song.

[The Heartical Don]

that is indeed the SMiLE font. and it is indeed EXCiTiNG!!!

Here the direct comparison

...which is all very nice... but who here can actually play 78rpms in 2011 A.D.?

[The Shift]

...which is all very nice... but who here can actually play 78rpms in 2011 A.D.?

It is rather disappointing and we'll have to hope that a simultaneous release on CD is issued, if we want to hear the differences, should there be any.

About 25 years ago I bought a CD player just to hear a SMiLE boot; 2004 I bought 5.1 DVD/HDCD/DVD-A player to appreciate Pet Sounds DVD-A; recently bought a Blu-Ray player to listen to NY Archives Vol 1; now we're being treated to a product that was high-tech in 1925.

I think I'll have to pass on this one...

[The Heartical Don]

...which is all very nice... but who here can actually play 78rpms in 2011 A.D.?

It is rather disappointing and we'll have to home that a simultaneous release on CD is issued, if we want to hear the differences, should there be any.

About 25 years ago I bought a CD player just to hear a SMiLE boot; 2004 I bought 5.1 DVD/HDCD/DVD-A player to appreciate Pet Sounds DVD-A; recently bought a Blu-Ray player to listen to NY Archives Vol 1; now we're being treated to a product that was high-tech in 1925.

I think I'll have to pass on this one...

Wax cylinders, anyone?

[rogerlancelot]

I'm trying to get a list of comprehensive Smile material together. Here's what I have so far:

Official:
Smiley Smile / Wild Honey two-fer
Friends / 20-20 two-fer
Sunflower / Surf's Up two-fer
1993 Box Set
Endless Harmony
Hawthorne Blvd.

Unofficial:
Smile (Vigotone and other labels)
Secret Smile
SOT Unsurpassed Masters Vol. 15 - 17
Heroes And Villains Sessions Part 1 & 2
Heroes And Villains Sessions Vol. 2
Psychedelic Sounds
Heroes And Vibrations
Dumb Angel Rarities Vol. 1
Journals 1 Vol. 4 - 6
Archaeology Discs 1 - 3
1988 Mark Linett Rough Mixes Compilation
A Pocket Symphony
The Sea Of Tunes Source Tape

Am I missing anything? I was considering making a box set for my own use in the car that was in chronological order. Of course I'm looking forward to any summer release but I just wanted something to tie me over until then.

[smile-holland]

you might find a few more here:
http://www.surfermoon.com/ (and go to the b00tleg section) or more directly: http://www.surfermoon.com/boots.shtml

[The Shift]

I thought the Carl false Barnyard was on Secret Smile, although I may be wrong on that.

I think (going from memory, as always, and it'll probably be wrong as it usually is) that it first surfaced on Long Lost Surf Songs... was it Vol 3? ...
Unfortunately the disc is locked away in a temporary box room while the decorators have-at the living room.

Vol 2

[rogerlancelot]

I thought the Carl false Barnyard was on Secret Smile, although I may be wrong on that.

I think (going from memory, as always, and it'll probably be wrong as it usually is) that it first surfaced on Long Lost Surf Songs... was it Vol 3? ...
Unfortunately the disc is locked away in a temporary box room while the decorators have-at the living room.

Vol 2

I just checked. "Barnshine" is on LLS3. A session with the Carl false Barnyard is on H & V Sessions V2 but without the music bits.

[The Shift]

Ah... I still haven't dug up my own copy (what I don't have) -  was going via the surfermoon boot site.

Apols!

[bossaroo]

I combined Little Pad and Tones. Tones sounds pretty low and muddy as it was pitch-adjusted, but you can hear it here:

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