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At 1:22 is this Marilyn in the audience giving hand gestures to Brian about eye contact?
Shes second row back, third from the left.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP8-v6CACzo
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Quote from: Beekeeper on October 29, 2010, 06:05:18 PM
At 1:22 is this Marilyn in the audience giving hand gestures to Brian about eye contact?
Shes second row back, third from the left.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP8-v6CACzo
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A fascinating observation! Yeah, that's Marilyn, and Fred Vail two people to her left.
But who knows for sure what those gestures meant? Maybe she was indicating he should move closer to the mic. Then again, maybe it was an eye contact issue, way back in 1964.
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Quote from: Custom Machine on October 29, 2010, 07:42:24 PM
Quote from: Beekeeper on October 29, 2010, 06:05:18 PM
At 1:22 is this Marilyn in the audience giving hand gestures to Brian about eye contact?
Shes second row back, third from the left.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP8-v6CACzo
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A fascinating observation! Yeah, that's Marilyn, and Fred Vail two people to her left.
Huh! You read my mind; I was just going to ask who the guy was sitting next to Jodi, but now I know.
Thanxx!
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Quote from: bgas on October 29, 2010, 07:46:16 PM
Quote from: Custom Machine on October 29, 2010, 07:42:24 PM
Quote from: Beekeeper on October 29, 2010, 06:05:18 PM
At 1:22 is this Marilyn in the audience giving hand gestures to Brian about eye contact?
Shes second row back, third from the left.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP8-v6CACzo
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A fascinating observation! Yeah, that's Marilyn, and Fred Vail two people to her left.
Huh! You read my mind; I was just going to ask who the guy was sitting next to Jodi, but now I know.
Thanxx!
You're welcome, and now you can tell me who Jodi is!
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Jodi Gable. First president/secretary/everythinig person for the BBs Fan Club.1962-66
The BBs had a surprise 16th Birthday party for her in her backyard. ( They Played)
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Pause the clip at
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I did...Jay, what am I looking for?
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I'm curious too what to look for at 1:23.
I think Marilyn was talking abou the mic too. How could he be making eye contact with 500 kids.
They all seem to be chewing gum too, even the Lovester.
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The fact that Marilyn and Fred Vail and other early notables are in the audience in the Lost Concert film has been noted repeatedly, in a good many reviews, and dozens of posts regarding this film for the last 10 years or so. If you somehow missed that...yes Marilyn is giving a hand motion from her eyes to Brian's eyes, and she's basically saying "Don't Worry Baby"...I'm here. Brian had significant stage fright. He'd already avoided multiple tours and important concerts starting in 1963. There are a few points in this show where you can see Brian losing it a little bit, just momentarily...In My Room is one. And yes at most other points he performs well, obviously having fun at times. That's Brian. Marilyn was a good support system for Brian, but she couldn't be on all the tours etc... This moment shows how she instinctively knew when Brian needed a little support.
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Thanks everyone for the info. Very interesting trivia. Im sorry if these things have been noticed and discussed before.
I was also wondering if anyone has noticed from this link(second half of the show) that during "In My Room" how Carl and Al are trying not to laugh while singing and Brian keeps looking over at them starting @ 4:44, (I think they are starting to sing outta key ?).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQnv8q4N1f4&feature=related
plus Al keeps yelling to someone off to his right at 1:34 during some of the guitar solos notably "Surfin USA". Any ideas?
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Quote from: Beekeeper on October 30, 2010, 10:57:11 AM
plus Al keeps yelling to someone off to his right at 1:34 during some of the guitar solos notably "Surfin USA". Any ideas?
BeeKeeper
If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say Al was riding separately from the other guys, and he was trying to make certain the busdriver didn't leave without him.
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I think Brian keeps looking over to Carl and Al to see where their fingers are on the frets so he will play the right notes.
Brian often does this throughout the entire "lost concert" performance so I assume he's just making sure he has it right.
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Quote from: Beekeeper on October 30, 2010, 10:57:11 AM
plus Al keeps yelling to someone off to his right at 1:34 during some of the guitar solos notably "Surfin USA". Any ideas?
This, sadly, is just a young, vibrant, fertile Al Jardine being about as rock and roll as a young, vibrant, fertile Al Jardine could be.....
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Quote from: Beekeeper on October 30, 2010, 10:57:11 AM
I was also wondering if anyone has noticed from this link(second half of the show) that during "In My Room" how Carl and Al are trying not to laugh while singing and Brian keeps looking over at them starting @ 4:44, (I think they are starting to sing outta key ?).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQnv8q4N1f4&feature=related
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Yeah, Carl starts singing off key and Brian keeps giving him that WTF are you doing look. Carl is obviously avoiding eye-contact with BW, but Al is doing a good job of not losing it. Later, when Carl was in charge of the live thing he was famous for giving musicians that same look.
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I did...Jay, what am I looking for?
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I always thought Mike Love was the most out-of-key one on that song.
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Sorry, it's early, I'm just up, first mug of tea only half drunk, the clocks went back an hour... but at first I read that as "Marilyn Rovell Giving Brian Head During Lost Concert???".
And now, I have to clean my monitor, keyboard and a radius of roughly five feet.
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Quote from: Jon Stebbins on October 30, 2010, 10:28:04 AM
The fact that Marilyn and Fred Vail and other early notables are in the audience in the Lost Concert film has been noted repeatedly, in a good many reviews, and dozens of posts regarding this film for the last 10 years or so. If you somehow missed that...yes Marilyn is giving a hand motion from her eyes to Brian's eyes, and she's basically saying "Don't Worry Baby"...I'm here. Brian had significant stage fright. He'd already avoided multiple tours and important concerts starting in 1963. There are a few points in this show where you can see Brian losing it a little bit, just momentarily...In My Room is one. And yes at most other points he performs well, obviously having fun at times. That's Brian. Marilyn was a good support system for Brian, but she couldn't be on all the tours etc... This moment shows how she instinctively knew when Brian needed a little support.
Did you ever think of the fact that maybe, just maybe, not everybody has read 'a good many reviews and dozens of posts from the last 10 years'? Some people have just gotten into the BB's, and this is new to them. There isn't any reason to make a comment like that.
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Quote from: Jon Stebbins on October 30, 2010, 10:28:04 AM
The fact that Marilyn and Fred Vail and other early notables are in the audience in the Lost Concert film has been noted repeatedly, in a good many reviews, and dozens of posts regarding this film for the last 10 years or so. If you somehow missed that...yes Marilyn is giving a hand motion from her eyes to Brian's eyes, and she's basically saying "Don't Worry Baby"...I'm here. Brian had significant stage fright. He'd already avoided multiple tours and important concerts starting in 1963. There are a few points in this show where you can see Brian losing it a little bit, just momentarily...In My Room is one. And yes at most other points he performs well, obviously having fun at times. That's Brian. Marilyn was a good support system for Brian, but she couldn't be on all the tours etc... This moment shows how she instinctively knew when Brian needed a little support.
Did you ever think of the fact that maybe, just maybe, not everybody has read 'a good many reviews and dozens of posts from the last 10 years'? Some people have just gotten into the BB's, and this is new to them. There isn't any reason to make a comment like that.
Over the past years, I've read about Marilyn in the footage, but had never seen her particularly. So I appreciate this thread for pointing her out for me.
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Quote from: A Million Units In Jan! on October 31, 2010, 03:56:17 AM
Quote from: Jon Stebbins on October 30, 2010, 10:28:04 AM
The fact that Marilyn and Fred Vail and other early notables are in the audience in the Lost Concert film has been noted repeatedly, in a good many reviews, and dozens of posts regarding this film for the last 10 years or so. If you somehow missed that...yes Marilyn is giving a hand motion from her eyes to Brian's eyes, and she's basically saying "Don't Worry Baby"...I'm here. Brian had significant stage fright. He'd already avoided multiple tours and important concerts starting in 1963. There are a few points in this show where you can see Brian losing it a little bit, just momentarily...In My Room is one. And yes at most other points he performs well, obviously having fun at times. That's Brian. Marilyn was a good support system for Brian, but she couldn't be on all the tours etc... This moment shows how she instinctively knew when Brian needed a little support.
Did you ever think of the fact that maybe, just maybe, not everybody has read 'a good many reviews and dozens of posts from the last 10 years'? Some people have just gotten into the BB's, and this is new to them.
Well... obviously yes...otherwise the question wouldn't have been posed and wouldn't need to be answered. My point was to
emphasize
that this question about Marilyn's presence has been confirmed, solidly, for many years. I answered the question, and i also gave some insight into what was probably going on here with her hand motions...as well as summarizing some further context related to that. What did your post add to the conversation?
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I've watched this footage before and spotted Marilyn because she's not one of the screaming ones. It's funny how she's about the same age as the other girls in the audience but has enough poise to keep Brian going via gestures and eye contact. I agree that she's not saying, "Look at the audience," but "Don't worry about them; look at me, and I'll keep you calm."
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Quote from: Amy B. on October 31, 2010, 02:58:58 PM
I've watched this footage before and spotted Marilyn because she's not one of the screaming ones. It's funny how she's about the same age as the other girls in the audience but has enough poise to keep Brian going via gestures and eye contact. I agree that she's not saying, "Look at the audience," but "Don't worry about them; look at me, and I'll keep you calm."
and that is very cool; that she could, and it would work for Brian.
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Good thing Diane wasn't in the audience...
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I'm trying to picture Melinda Wilson in this same scenario, and it's just not working.
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Quote from: Jon Stebbins on October 31, 2010, 12:50:14 PM
Quote from: A Million Units In Jan! on October 31, 2010, 03:56:17 AM
Quote from: Jon Stebbins on October 30, 2010, 10:28:04 AM
The fact that Marilyn and Fred Vail and other early notables are in the audience in the Lost Concert film has been noted repeatedly, in a good many reviews, and dozens of posts regarding this film for the last 10 years or so. If you somehow missed that...yes Marilyn is giving a hand motion from her eyes to Brian's eyes, and she's basically saying "Don't Worry Baby"...I'm here. Brian had significant stage fright. He'd already avoided multiple tours and important concerts starting in 1963. There are a few points in this show where you can see Brian losing it a little bit, just momentarily...In My Room is one. And yes at most other points he performs well, obviously having fun at times. That's Brian. Marilyn was a good support system for Brian, but she couldn't be on all the tours etc... This moment shows how she instinctively knew when Brian needed a little support.
Did you ever think of the fact that maybe, just maybe, not everybody has read 'a good many reviews and dozens of posts from the last 10 years'? Some people have just gotten into the BB's, and this is new to them.
Well... obviously yes...otherwise the question wouldn't have been posed and wouldn't need to be answered. My point was to
emphasize
that this question about Marilyn's presence has been confirmed, solidly, for many years. I answered the question, and i also gave some insight into what was probably going on here with her hand motions...as well as summarizing some further context related to that. What did your post add to the conversation?
"If you somehow missed that" could definitely have been taken the wrong way
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