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Question: Rate Sunflower
5 - 149 (72.7%)
4 - 46 (22.4%)
3 - 8 (3.9%)
2 - 0 (0%)
1 - 1 (0.5%)
0 - 1 (0.5%)
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« Reply #300 on: August 31, 2014, 02:29:00 PM »

I never understood the appeal for "All I Wanna Do". It's cool, yes, but not sth. earth-shattering. I certainly like it, but it's not my Top anything BBs (100, 50, even 200).
"All I Wanna Do" draws the listener into a unique sonic world----unique even by Beach Boys standards. Mr Desper's finest moment, in this poster's humble opinion.

Indeed. One of my favorite songs.

I agree too, it must be in my top 5 or 10 (BBs songs). I always wonder if there is any demo or alternate version of this gem.
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« Reply #301 on: August 31, 2014, 02:36:50 PM »

Nothing that has ever been booted.

Something from 1969 does exist - it was an early instrumental track ft. a sitar I think. Hopefully we'll get to hear that one day.
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« Reply #302 on: August 31, 2014, 09:27:30 PM »

Nothing that has ever been booted.

Something from 1969 does exist - it was an early instrumental track ft. a sitar I think. Hopefully we'll get to hear that one day.

It's from '68.
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« Reply #303 on: September 01, 2014, 03:45:02 PM »

Nothing that has ever been booted.

Something from 1969 does exist - it was an early instrumental track ft. a sitar I think. Hopefully we'll get to hear that one day.

Ahhh! Ahhh! Ahhh! that's great!

How we didn't get that in MiC???  Huh
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« Reply #304 on: December 21, 2014, 06:24:13 PM »

Magnificent album all around. I'm surprised by the hate Tears gets on here. It reminds me of My Boy by Elvis, but then I'm a sucker for those kind of histrionics.
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« Reply #305 on: January 13, 2015, 11:42:01 PM »

Like with Pet Sounds, this is an easy 5/5 for me and there's not much more I can say about it. While the aforementioned may be a better album, I think Sunflower is the better *Beach Boys* album. Everyone shines here, everyone sounds focused and on the same page in terms of creative direction. This is the one and only Beach Boys album I've heard that sounds impeccably cohesive, with not a single track that takes me out of the zone or where I have doubts about whether a certain track really belongs with the rest. This is where the group really works together and sounds like a whole, not as Brian's messengers or competing fractions. In a perfect world, they'd have kept up output like this through the 70s. Unfortunately, Brian is Back, Dennis going solo, and Endless Summer were all major steps backward they never truly recovered from. This is also the only time where a SMiLE fragment was used on a later album that didn't seem forced, desperate, half-finished or some combination of the three, in my opinion.

My only minor criticism is the lame title which seems kinda arbitrary and unfitting. That and the sort of goofy, sort of (vaguely) creepy cover art. Not sure what they were thinking on that end.
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« Reply #306 on: January 14, 2015, 06:01:51 PM »

This Whole World and Cool Cool Water are fantastic songs out of the album. The worst is At My Window. What a brutal song to listen to. Other then that 5/5 stars really solid listen
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« Reply #307 on: January 22, 2015, 08:44:18 AM »

This Whole World and Cool Cool Water are fantastic songs out of the album. The worst is At My Window. What a brutal song to listen to. Other then that 5/5 stars really solid listen
I don't know that I'd call it "brutal."  Maybe a bit weak... as if the album wanders off for a psychedelic bathroom break before getting back on course.  I don't actually know what I'm saying here...  But it's well produced and fits into the album like a quirky little dream sequence.
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« Reply #308 on: March 25, 2015, 06:44:16 PM »


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I don't know that I'd call it "brutal."  Maybe a bit weak... as if the album wanders off for a psychedelic bathroom break before getting back on course.  I don't actually know what I'm saying here...  But it's well produced and fits into the album like a quirky little dream sequence.
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Alright I've grown on the album and it is a decent song.
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« Reply #309 on: April 11, 2015, 08:29:50 AM »

With all due respect to Bruce, I tend to skip his tracks, although Tears In The Morning has some nice BVs. 'Add Some Music' is also a track that I have mixed feelings about; I love the middle 8 but the verses don't do anything for me. Highlights for me are All I Wanna Do, Our Sweet Love and Forever
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« Reply #310 on: April 15, 2015, 01:31:13 PM »

Yep, this is the album I rank above Pet Sounds. 

I rank Sunflower as a five, and my favorite Beach Boys album.  I really like the band feel to the album. 

Slip on Through - A short and sweet opener from Dennis brings the Boys into the 70s in grand style

This Whole World - OK, so this one might've made a better album opener, but no arguments here.  Pure 100% Beach Boys.

Add Some Music - Sounds like the Boys trying to adapt to the early 70s acoustic scene.  Sounds great. 

Got to Know the Woman - The one possible clunker on the album, but it still fits to me. 

Deidre - This song has grown on me.

It's About Time - The Beach Boys didn't rock out too much after the mid 60s, but if you ask me, this is one of the best post surf/car rockers in their catalog.

Tears in the Morning - Great Bruce effort.  Don't care what anyone says. 

All I Wanna Do - For me, the highlight of the album, and possible the last great B. Wilson/Love composition.

Forever - Dennis sure had a knack for ballads. 

Our Sweet Love - Another ray of sunshine. 

At My Window - OK, maybe we didn't need a third Bruce Johnston lead vocal on this album.  Maybe Brian or Al?  Still a decent song. 

Cool, Cool Water - Great group vocals. 
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« Reply #311 on: May 03, 2015, 05:12:19 PM »

With all due respect to Bruce, I tend to skip his tracks, although Tears In The Morning has some nice BVs. 'Add Some Music' is also a track that I have mixed feelings about; I love the middle 8 but the verses don't do anything for me. Highlights for me are All I Wanna Do, Our Sweet Love and Forever

Yeah, Carl's middle eight is definitely the saving grace of the song.
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« Reply #312 on: May 05, 2015, 11:30:46 AM »

Until I read some of the posts on this thread, I really didn't know that Add Some Music to Your Day was much a polarizing song. 
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« Reply #313 on: May 05, 2015, 11:38:39 AM »

Until I read some of the posts on this thread, I really didn't know that Add Some Music to Your Day was much a polarizing song. 
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« Reply #314 on: May 09, 2015, 08:12:53 AM »

Until I read some of the posts on this thread, I really didn't know that Add Some Music to Your Day was much a polarizing song.  

I don't dislike it, but to me the verses seem to run in place too long once they've made their fairly simple harmonic point, and the lyrics aren't clever enough to lift them out of the rut.  I really love the middle eight and the way it comes back in from there, up through "music is in my soul."

Also, I like how some of the backing vocals on the verses are reminiscent of "Only the Lonely."
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« Reply #315 on: June 15, 2015, 05:46:46 AM »

If it's the UK track sequence, I rank this album about as high as Pet Sounds.  The standard (US) album sequence falls a bit short to me.  Just a slight reordering and one addition, but it makes all the difference to my ear.
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« Reply #316 on: June 21, 2015, 10:45:41 AM »

I think by Al J. Admitting that the beach boys didn't know what they had, concerning Dennis and his considerable musical abilities...They just focused on his outward behavior. Thus robbing the whole band of a more progressive and artistic era of music, imo. Btw, why did Bruce J. Quit the boys in 72,73 circa? He seemed a little too white bread.
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« Reply #317 on: June 30, 2015, 05:55:34 AM »

I think by Al J. Admitting that the beach boys didn't know what they had, concerning Dennis and his considerable musical abilities...They just focused on his outward behavior. Thus robbing the whole band of a more progressive and artistic era of music, imo. Btw, why did Bruce J. Quit the boys in 72,73 circa? He seemed a little too white bread.

I don't think Bruce was a fan of the direction Jack Rieley was taking the Boys in, with some of the environmental / political songs on the Surf's Up record. 
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« Reply #318 on: September 25, 2015, 09:18:06 AM »

1. Slip On Through (4/5)
2. This Whole World (5/5)
3. Add Some Music (5/5)
4. Got To Know The Woman (3/5)
5. Deirdre (5/5)
6. It's About Time (4/5)
7. Tears In The Morning (4/5)
8. All I Wanna Do (5/5)
9. Forever (4/5)
10. Our Sweet Love (4/5)
11. At My Window (5/5)
12. Cool, Cool Water (5/5)

The band in it's prime - sales be damned - they were untouchable at this point.
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« Reply #319 on: September 25, 2015, 09:53:34 AM »

I like Sunflower, but man its reputation has really become so bloated (IMO of course).

"Got to Know...", "Tears" and "Its About Time" I have been routinely skipping for years. I used to love "Add Some Music", but as time has gone by I've found it to be excessively wooden, and the decision to release this as the lead single from this record is kind of baffling. "Slip on Through" would have been the obvious choice but "Forever" and "Our Sweet Love" would also have made excellent singles. It's funny that when Brian is finally forced out of the drivers seat the BBs (and Reprise) still didn't have a clue. I love "At My Window", but "Take A Load Off Your Feet" is my favorite track on Surf's Up so maybe I'm just a weirdo.

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« Reply #320 on: May 04, 2016, 10:54:34 PM »

Side two of this album is one of the best album sides ever. Side one is marred only slightly by Bruce's cutsie "Dierdrie" and Dennis' silly "Got to Know the Woman"; other than that, this album is about as close to perfection as you can get in this earthly realm. And yes, I include "Tears in the Morning", dammit! (oops, Bruce's foul language rubbing off on me!). I've sat down to play it on the piano, and it's a well constructed song - I like how he moves the bass notes around, definitely a Brian influence, I enjoy singing it. I guess because I, too, have had tears in the morning.  "All I Wanna Do" "Forever" and "Our Sweet Love" is a perfect song cycle. And yet this album sank like an anchor upon release. Go figure.
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« Reply #321 on: January 24, 2017, 01:29:10 AM »

Why does everyone dislike Tears In The Morning? I think it's great...
psh, it is a great song

don't listen to the haters.
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« Reply #322 on: January 24, 2017, 08:20:00 PM »

Why does everyone dislike Tears In The Morning? I think it's great...
psh, it is a great song

don't listen to the haters.

It's secretly the best song on Sunflower but only patricians know that.
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« Reply #323 on: February 06, 2017, 03:48:42 PM »

It is an amazing, amazing record. But I do prefer Surf's Up.
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« Reply #324 on: March 11, 2017, 03:38:50 PM »

Why does everyone dislike Tears In The Morning? I think it's great...
psh, it is a great song

don't listen to the haters.
Yes it is, and that's one thing I am damn sure of!
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