Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again

[Ang Jones]

 Think of it this way -- I love fine wines.  If I bought a bottle of 2000 Chateau Lafite Rothschild, I might take it to a nice restaurant to share with a few family members or close friends, but if you were a stranger sitting across the room I probably wouldn't pour you a glass.  The owner is well within his rights to share, or not share, as he pleases.

Lee

I don't think this analogy works.  Wine is a finite commodity - sharing a bottle of wine means that the owner gets to drink less of it. Sharing music doesn't reduce the owner's listening experience one bit. The only difference is that the owner doesn't get the egotistical satisfaction of knowing he is the only one, or one of an elite, to have this item. Let's take another example. Suppose I had discovered the cure for cancer. Would it be incredibly selfish to keep it just for myself? The answer is surely yes.

The owner of this item may have the legal right not to share but maybe at some time in the future there will be someone who has something he wants and also refuses to help. If I had this item I would be only too happy to share freely (except perhaps with those whom I knew wouldn't do likewise for me!). Promos are marked 'not for sale' as has already been pointed out and I can understand anyone being reluctant to do something that might get them into trouble. But 'not for sale' doesn't include giving away, does it?

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Not sharing something slated to be released on a boxed set is not like not sharing the cure for cancer.

[The Shift]

I really do think we should leave beachboys_fr in peace. Guy comes here looking for verification of a track and gets vilified for not sharing it before he's had chance to weigh up the risks of whether to share or not.  It's his disc, he paid for it, he can do what he likes.  If he'd said nothing we'd be none the wiser.

Starting to sound like a lot of "this guy can't be serious because he won't share with me and I'm the world's bestest Beach Boys fan…"

This just makes me all the more determined not to mention my Lotto win here…

[The Shift]

Not sharing something slated to be released on a boxed set is not like not sharing the cure for cancer.

Very well said.  Anyone who considers the value of an obscure Beach Boys track to a cancer cure needs to re-assess their priorities.

[AndrewHickey]

I really do think we should leave beachboys_fr in peace. Guy comes here looking for verification of a track and gets vilified for not sharing it before he's had chance to weigh up the risks of whether to share or not.  It's his disc, he paid for it, he can do what he likes.  If he'd said nothing we'd be none the wiser.

Absolutely. Were I to get access to something like that, the very last thing I would do is share it publicly in a way that could be traced back directly to me. Even were there no legal action, it would make it much less likely that I'd ever get any future access to such material.

[Nicko1234]

Suppose I had discovered the cure for cancer. Would it be incredibly selfish to keep it just for myself? The answer is surely yes.

Could have thought a bit harder before writing that really couldn't you...

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I really do think we should leave beachboys_fr in peace. Guy comes here looking for verification of a track and gets vilified for not sharing it before he's had chance to weigh up the risks of whether to share or not.  It's his disc, he paid for it, he can do what he likes.  If he'd said nothing we'd be none the wiser.

Absolutely. Were I to get access to something like that, the very last thing I would do is share it publicly in a way that could be traced back directly to me. Even were there no legal action, it would make it much less likely that I'd ever get any future access to such material.

exactly

[hypehat]

Yeah, 16 pages of whining isn't that good a look. If I was Beachboysfr I'd go drive by each and every one of our houses at 100 mph, playing it at a respectable volume. With the window open a crack.

[Myk Luhv]

Hey man, we don't know -- maybe "Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again" is the cure for cancer!

[Micha]

Not sharing something slated to be released on a boxed set is not like not sharing the cure for cancer.

Are you saying beachboys_fr has the cure for cancer and he isn't sharing that either??!?!?!? The bastard!!!

I really do think we should leave beachboys_fr in peace. Guy comes here looking for verification of a track and gets vilified for not sharing it before he's had chance to weigh up the risks of whether to share or not.  It's his disc, he paid for it, he can do what he likes.  If he'd said nothing we'd be none the wiser.

Starting to sound like a lot of "this guy can't be serious because he won't share with me and I'm the world's bestest Beach Boys fan…"

Absolutely.

This just makes me all the more determined not to mention my Lotto win here…

Now I really must try to find your house...

[beachboys_fr]

Still here...

[Ang Jones]

OF COURSE the cure for cancer is far more important than one  unreleased song. However, selfishness is selfishness - just a matter of degree.

[STE]

BeachBoys_fr is one of the biggest BB collectors in the world.
Or at least so it seemed when we were in touch back in the 90's!

[Iron Horse-Apples]

Still here...

Glad you haven't been scared away. Any more thoughts regarding this track?

[Cabinessenceking]

 

[The Shift]

OF COURSE the cure for cancer is far more important than one  unreleased song. However, selfishness is selfishness - just a matter of degree.

Hmm…

[Nicko1234]

OF COURSE the cure for cancer is far more important than one  unreleased song. However, selfishness is selfishness - just a matter of degree.

Could have thought a bit harder before writing that really couldn't you...

[The Shift]

OF COURSE the cure for cancer is far more important than one  unreleased song. However, selfishness is selfishness - just a matter of degree.

Hmm…

Not seeing any signs of selfishness from our French friend…

[Ang Jones]

The only reason I wrote what I did was that I was comparing something of a limited quantity - like the wine analogy - and something that could be shared without affecting the owner's benefit from the item.  I'll put it in less emotive terms. A youth serum that could make you appear ten years younger. Such an item isn't essential - but very desirable for many people. In limited quantities therefore, understandable that an owner wouldn't want to share. But  someone who had the formula could afford to share, either for financial gain or more laudably for less mean spirited reasons.

I just wish they would release the item and any other unreleased gems. It does no-one any good lying in a vault and as time goes by, the number of those who know or care about it diminishes.

[Nicko1234]

The only reason I wrote what I did was that I was comparing something of a limited quantity - like the wine analogy - and something that could be shared without affecting the owner's benefit from the item.  I'll put it in less emotive terms. A youth serum that could make you appear ten years younger. Such an item isn't essential - but very desirable for many people. In limited quantities therefore, understandable that an owner wouldn't want to share. But  someone who had the formula could afford to share, either for financial gain or more laudably for less mean spirited reasons.

I just wish they would release the item and any other unreleased gems. It does no-one any good lying in a vault and as time goes by, the number of those who know or care about it diminishes.

I think I have a better analogy...

It's almost like someone having a rare recording that they could share by sending PMs to every single person on this board but they should feel no obligation to do so.

[beachboys_fr]

BeachBoys_fr is one of the biggest BB collectors in the world.
Or at least so it seemed when we were in touch back in the 90's!

Sorry, it was not me! I'm collecting CDs since June 2001. The first part of your post is true, however.

[smile-holland]

I really do think we should leave beachboys_fr in peace. Guy comes here looking for verification of a track and gets vilified for not sharing it before he's had chance to weigh up the risks of whether to share or not.  It's his disc, he paid for it, he can do what he likes.  If he'd said nothing we'd be none the wiser.

... not to mention the 300+ PM's he probably received by now...

[?]

I really do think we should leave beachboys_fr in peace. Guy comes here looking for verification of a track and gets vilified for not sharing it before he's had chance to weigh up the risks of whether to share or not.  It's his disc, he paid for it, he can do what he likes.  If he'd said nothing we'd be none the wiser.

... not to mention the 300+ PM's he probably received by now...

I'm genuinely curious how many he got. 

[beachboys_fr]

I really do think we should leave beachboys_fr in peace. Guy comes here looking for verification of a track and gets vilified for not sharing it before he's had chance to weigh up the risks of whether to share or not.  It's his disc, he paid for it, he can do what he likes.  If he'd said nothing we'd be none the wiser.

... not to mention the 300+ PM's he probably received by now...

I'm genuinely curious how many he got. 

About 30 and I've tried to provide a reply to each of them, even briefly.

[The Heartical Don]

Haven't heard the song yet (not in cover form either).

In theory, I might not like it at all.

But well, on the other hand...