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« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2022, 09:30:54 PM »

Does anyone know when the latest issue of ESQ (Carl & the Passions) goes on sale?
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« Reply #51 on: October 01, 2022, 02:46:46 AM »

Does anyone know when the latest issue of ESQ (Carl & the Passions) goes on sale?

I got that one a week or 2 ago, and I'm in Australia  - about a week's postage from the U.S.
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« Reply #52 on: October 01, 2022, 03:36:28 AM »

And finally we get the studio recording of "We got Love". I really like that one, especially that pedal steel intro! As you certainly know, an early pressing of "Holland" featuring that song was released in Germany, yet the recording was never used again on any sets afaik.
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« Reply #53 on: October 01, 2022, 10:20:21 AM »

Looking forward to this one!  Also quite buzzed that "Carry Me Home" finally gets a proper official release. 
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« Reply #54 on: October 01, 2022, 11:11:45 AM »

Disregard
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« Reply #55 on: October 01, 2022, 02:15:08 PM »

And finally we get the studio recording of "We got Love". I really like that one, especially that pedal steel intro! As you certainly know, an early pressing of "Holland" featuring that song was released in Germany, yet the recording was never used again on any sets afaik.

I think Analogue Productions used it on a vinyl release. Found it here https://www.discogs.com/release/8957660-The-Beach-Boys-Holland
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« Reply #56 on: October 01, 2022, 02:59:36 PM »

The amazon situation is a disaster. No surprise there
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« Reply #57 on: October 01, 2022, 04:15:31 PM »

The amazon situation is a disaster. No surprise there

Same thing happened with FF last year from memory. Others can chime in but it would not surprise me if these sets have an initial run planned then up it as demand warrants.
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« Reply #58 on: October 02, 2022, 02:31:52 AM »

And finally we get the studio recording of "We got Love". I really like that one, especially that pedal steel intro! As you certainly know, an early pressing of "Holland" featuring that song was released in Germany, yet the recording was never used again on any sets afaik.

I think Analogue Productions used it on a vinyl release. Found it here https://www.discogs.com/release/8957660-The-Beach-Boys-Holland


I wasn't aware of that. Thank you! But I guess they didn't get to use the master tapes but worked with the "bootlegged" version, did they?
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« Reply #59 on: October 02, 2022, 02:42:17 AM »

And finally we get the studio recording of "We got Love". I really like that one, especially that pedal steel intro! As you certainly know, an early pressing of "Holland" featuring that song was released in Germany, yet the recording was never used again on any sets afaik.

I think Analogue Productions used it on a vinyl release. Found it here https://www.discogs.com/release/8957660-The-Beach-Boys-Holland


I wasn't aware of that. Thank you! But I guess they didn't get to use the master tapes but worked with the "bootlegged" version, did they?

Unfortunately I've never come across an affordable copy so haven't heard it. I'd imagine it's the official version sanctioned by Brother as AP are a legit company but not 100%.

It's on the SACD too https://www.discogs.com/release/8864074-The-Beach-Boys-Holland

Thread here http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,19211.0.html
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« Reply #60 on: October 02, 2022, 09:18:29 AM »

Super excited about the new set, albeit with one question: Is there any reason why the special items that come with the Deluxe and Limited Super Deluxe LP variations (the lithographs and the Holland promo reproduction booklet) can't also come with the Super Deluxe 6-CD version? While I have a record player, it's a cheap one and vinyl is not my go-to for most music. I always buy the CD sets, and feel I certainly can't be alone? As such, I've always been fine missing out on whatever extras are exclusive to the LP sets. But this time I caved, having just ordered the Limited Super Deluxe vinyl edition simply for the lithographs and Holland book (call me a sucker), and I will no doubt get the CDs for most of my actual listening. I figured I'd ask anyone here who might be in the know about why such bonuses can't be offered for the CD versions? I know this is not unique to this set, or the Beach Boys products in general. But I don't see why a "Limited Super Deluxe" CD option couldn't be offered just as it is for the LPs. Anyone in the know about why this is so often the case, where vinyl products come with the most unique goodies?  I can't imagine the physical configuration of the CD box set would have to be altered much, if at all, to house a sleeve or something that could contain those items, given it's housed in a book anyway.
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« Reply #61 on: October 02, 2022, 11:29:30 AM »

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But this time I caved, having just ordered the Limited Super Deluxe vinyl edition simply for the lithographs and Holland book (call me a sucker), and I will no doubt get the CDs for most of my actual listening.

I think you have answered the question yourself. It’s all about maximising the return for a business and I don’t think the Beach Boys and the label are any different.
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« Reply #62 on: October 02, 2022, 01:10:12 PM »

Remind me again, what is the actual release date for this thing? I don't do the whole pre-order thing. I will find it in a physical store when it's available.
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« Reply #63 on: October 02, 2022, 02:02:05 PM »

Nov. 18th
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« Reply #64 on: October 03, 2022, 05:38:45 AM »

And finally we get the studio recording of "We got Love". I really like that one, especially that pedal steel intro! As you certainly know, an early pressing of "Holland" featuring that song was released in Germany, yet the recording was never used again on any sets afaik.

I think Analogue Productions used it on a vinyl release. Found it here https://www.discogs.com/release/8957660-The-Beach-Boys-Holland


I wasn't aware of that. Thank you! But I guess they didn't get to use the master tapes but worked with the "bootlegged" version, did they?

Unfortunately I've never come across an affordable copy so haven't heard it. I'd imagine it's the official version sanctioned by Brother as AP are a legit company but not 100%.

It's on the SACD too https://www.discogs.com/release/8864074-The-Beach-Boys-Holland

Thread here http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,19211.0.html

Yep I own the SACD version.  The studio version is quite nice although the live version of it sounds, well, livelier.   
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« Reply #65 on: October 03, 2022, 11:37:33 AM »

The amazon situation is a disaster. No surprise there

Same thing happened with FF last year from memory. Others can chime in but it would not surprise me if these sets have an initial run planned then up it as demand warrants.

I did. Once again I have to buy from amazon france. I'm not waiting for amazon uk, loads of people did last time and got cancelled on.
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« Reply #66 on: October 03, 2022, 12:57:08 PM »

To answer the topic brought up above, yes, the Analogue Productions releases (vinyl and CD/SACD hybrid) are legit, licensed releases. I'm not sure what would possibly make anyone think they're not. They were/are sold through legitimate retailers, and have known names that remastered them.

They weren't discussed a ton here, but I think that was just a confluence of a bunch of things (the 2012 reissues being relatively recent at the time, not a super huge interest here in high-rez, and the incomplete nature of both reissue campaigns).

The current mode of running through the catalog and getting the albums back out there in physical form and also presenting a ton of outtakes (e.g. Feel Flows and Sail on Sailor) is ideal, and I certainly hope we continue to see the 70s covered in one form or another.
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« Reply #67 on: October 04, 2022, 11:49:07 AM »

Nov. 18th
Just got an email from the Beach Boys organization saying the release date is now Dec. 2
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« Reply #68 on: October 04, 2022, 12:45:05 PM »

Nov. 18th
Just got an email from the Beach Boys organization saying the release date is now Dec. 2
Is this for a physical release? Because the streaming release is still listed as November 18.
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« Reply #69 on: October 04, 2022, 01:22:18 PM »

Nov. 18th
Just got an email from the Beach Boys organization saying the release date is now Dec. 2
Is this for a physical release? Because the streaming release is still listed as November 18.
Here's what the Beach Boys notification says:
Hold on, dear brother that box set you’ve been waiting for now arrives December 2.


Sail On Sailor - 1972


 A new expansive multi-disc and digital box set, highlighting 1972's Carl and the Passions – "So Tough" and 1973's Holland albums with a bounty of unreleased outtakes, live recordings, demos, alternate versions and mixes, instrumentals, and a cappella tracks.


 Some highlights include a Mount Vernon and Fairway (A Fairytale) EP (not available on vinyl since its original release) and Carnegie Hall Thanksgiving 1972 concert recording. The Carnegie Hall concert is the first-ever release of a complete Beach Boys concert from this era with its original setlist. Sail On Sailor also includes a beautifully-designed, booklet with liner notes, rare photos of the band, recording artifacts, and more.
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« Reply #70 on: October 04, 2022, 01:23:40 PM »

Just got an email from the Beach Boys organization saying the release date is now Dec. 2

That's what I'm hearing from Amazon too.
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« Reply #71 on: October 05, 2022, 11:11:59 PM »

Date for streaming also changed to Dec. 2 release date.
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« Reply #72 on: October 06, 2022, 06:55:59 AM »

The upcoming Beatles "Revolver" boxed set just got bumped two weeks as well (from 10/28 to 11/11), so I would imagine this is a larger label and/or industry issue with replication/manufacturing. So the dumb, miserable carping on other boards blaming the wrong people for the delay with the BB set can be ignored, if they weren't already.

And yes, when one format (vinyl being the culprit in recent times) is delayed due to manufacturing issues, they will hold back all formats so that first week sales are maximized/optimized.
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« Reply #73 on: October 06, 2022, 10:10:07 AM »

The upcoming Beatles "Revolver" boxed set just got bumped two weeks as well (from 10/28 to 11/11), so I would imagine this is a larger label and/or industry issue with replication/manufacturing. So the dumb, miserable carping on other boards blaming the wrong people for the delay with the BB set can be ignored, if they weren't already.

And yes, when one format (vinyl being the culprit in recent times) is delayed due to manufacturing issues, they will hold back all formats so that first week sales are maximized/optimized.


If I'm not mistaken the same is happening to the new Elvis - On Tour boxset.
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« Reply #74 on: October 09, 2022, 12:59:04 PM »

To answer the topic brought up above, yes, the Analogue Productions releases (vinyl and CD/SACD hybrid) are legit, licensed releases. I'm not sure what would possibly make anyone think they're not. They were/are sold through legitimate retailers, and have known names that remastered them.

They weren't discussed a ton here, but I think that was just a confluence of a bunch of things (the 2012 reissues being relatively recent at the time, not a super huge interest here in high-rez, and the incomplete nature of both reissue campaigns).

The current mode of running through the catalog and getting the albums back out there in physical form and also presenting a ton of outtakes (e.g. Feel Flows and Sail on Sailor) is ideal, and I certainly hope we continue to see the 70s covered in one form or another.
I bought all of he analogue production masters as high res downloads. They are easily the best editions of those albums. I don’t expect them to be bettered. Absolutely vital purchases.
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