The Alan Boyd Thread

[Bicyclerider]

Sorry - didn't see that qualifier in your list.

[Jason Penick]

Sorry - didn't see that qualifier in your list.

In all fairness I think I type-o'd on that track listing.  The Brian song is actually "Hard Time" (no 's').  I'd still like to know what the difference is between this, "Rolling Up to Heaven", "Ding Dang" and "Clangin'".

I know, I've reached the ninth degree of Beach Boy obsessiveness. 

[Susan]

I'd still like to know what the difference is between this, "Rolling Up to Heaven", "Ding Dang" and "Clangin'".

I know, I've reached the ninth degree of Beach Boy obsessivenes. 

But you'll sure look swell in that white wrap-around coat, Jason!
;-)

[SMiLEY]

Alan--

Do the recordings that Dennis and Brian made in the early eighties, (sometimes known as the cocaine tapes) reside in the BB vault? If so, what kind of tape was used? Were they multi-track?

[Alan Boyd]

I think "Rollin' Up To Heaven" and that strange Caribou version of "Ding Dang" (the one where Brian is singing "hard time") are one and the same, although the tape box only lists it as "Brian's Tune."

There is a very rough unfinished track called "Clangin'" from 1976 that, as I recall (haven't heard this for awhile), sounds an awful lot like "I'm The Pied Piper," except Brian has overdubbed himslef a couple of times singing "Clangin' clangin', dingin' a dangin' and-a clangin' clangin'...." over and over and over again.  And again.  And again.

Just recently we DID find a very rough take of The Beach Boys - the guys around the piano at Brother Studio (same session where they filmed "I'm Bugged At My Old Man" for the 1976 TV special) - singing the "Wow Mama Yama Holy Hallelujah" part as Brian plays (can you guess?).... the "Shortenin' Bread" riff, which he pounds out here at about the same tempo as his version of "Proud Mary."  Not the same riff as "Clangin" or that 1974 "Ding Dang" version.

[pavlos brenos]

Hi Alan,
            Have you found the Stanley Shapiro/Tandyn Almer/Brian Wilson remakes-of-BBs-classics tapes yet and have you got any interesting news/over-views to share?
Thanks

[Cabana Boy]

According to the AFM sheet, the track for "Seasons" was laid down by Terry Jacks at Brian's studio on
July 31 and August 4, 1970.  Players on the first session were Earl Palmer (drums), Sonny Curtis & Mike Deasy (guitars), and Lyle Ritz (bass).  Virgil Evans (trumpet) overdubbed his part at the second session.

Cheers, Jason and C-man. S'pose I should get that Badman book. Figured it could wait, after the muted reception it got. Been more concerned with getting a hold of the McParland stuff I was missing.

[Jason Penick]

Does anyone have the recording dates for the versions of "Be My Baby" and "Calendar Girl" that appear on the California Feeling boot?

I've been told that "Be My Baby" is an Adult/ Child outtake from early '77, and that "Calendar Girl" is from the 1978 LA sessions, but I'm not entirely sure that these are accurate dates.

Any info appreciated!!

[Alan Boyd]

Haven't found anything from the A&M writing sessions with Brian, Stan and Tandyn Almer apart from one cassette that we're planning to transfer soon.  Not exactly sure what's on it....

BE MY BABY was recorded in 1980 in sessions up at Mike's place in Santa Barbara.

CALENDAR GIRL was recorded at Criteria in Miami in August 1978.  The group later redid the song again (copyinng Brian's aarraangement but smoothing out the rhythm section) a few months later.

[pavlos brenos]

Thanks for that Alan: I hope it is superb and releasable!

[Jason Penick]

Thank you, Alan!  I'm so happy you didn't overlook my obscure question.   

[Jon Stebbins]

Cheers, Jason and C-man. S'pose I should get that Badman book. Figured it could wait, after the muted reception it got. Been more concerned with getting a hold of the McParland stuff I was missing.

Beware!! The Badman book is a minefield of factual errors and contradictions. I love the format...but it needed some serious proof reading by an expert.
 

[Cabana Boy]

Cheers, Stebs. Gonna wind up getting it, anyways. Just got shoved down the list of musts.

[punkinhead]

yeah, but dont you want the BB's, Hal Blaine's, Carol Kaye's, (etc.) Social Security Numbers?   

[Cabana Boy]

I could use those for something... yeah.

[Jason Penick]

Two more for you Alan, and I'll swear I'll stop pestering you with these obscure recording date questions!

"Won't You Tell Me"; The Brian/ Murry/ Rick Henn/ Dennis collaboration.  Badman says it's from 1971 vintage.  (I'm assuming he has some AMF documentation to back that up.)  Andrew Doe has it as on his webpage as being from 1969.  I also read it's from 1970 on another website.  Can you set us straight on the date?


The other one I'm uncertain about is the track mis-labeled as "Surf's Up (with 'Child Is Father to The Man' tag). Dutch TV 1972" on the Long Lost Surf Songs vol. 4 boot.  I remember reading a long time ago that this was actually an alternate studio take of "Surf's Up", and it sure sounds that way.  I'd be REALLY interested to know the circumstances surrounding this obscure recording. 

[LeeDempsey]

Hey Alan ol' friend (you never write; you never call!) ;-)

You might also want to talk to Rob Santos -- there's a strange version of "Ding Dang" in the RCA (I guess now Sony BMG) vaults with all of the Equinox stuff.  It's somebody strange on lead vocals that I wasn't able to recognize...

p.s.: The master tape of "London's a Lonely Town" is there too!

Lee

[Cabana Boy]

there's a strange version of "Ding Dang" in the RCA (I guess now Sony BMG) vaults with all of the Equinox stuff.  It's somebody strange on lead vocals that I wasn't able to recognize...

Brian started work on a version of 'Ding Dang' for California Music. Part of his 36 song deal with Equinox. That's probably what you heard.

[Alan Boyd]

The date on the 2" master for WON'T YOU TELL ME is 6/19/71.... and the mixdown tape is dated 8/24/71. 

There are a few mixes on that tape highlighting Brian and Carl's doubled lead vocal.

Hii Lee!

[Jason Penick]

Thanks again, Alan!  I've posted that purported alternate 70s studio version of "Surf's Up" in case it doesn't reside in the vaults.  Hoping that you or somebody else could ID it:

http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1WCN5KX6DLZG60QKJTN1103K3F

[Joshilyn Hoisington]

Sounds like some kind of live rehearsal or something.  Strange.

[Jason Penick]

Sounds like some kind of live rehearsal or something.  Strange.

That was my thought too.  I really like how they arranged the ending.

[bryand]

The track that you posted is from the Beach Boys performance on the Gran Gala Du Disque TV Show from early 1972. Other tracks performed at this show are, "Heroes and Villains" "Sloop John B", and "Student Demonstration Time".

[Jason Penick]

Thanks.  That's what I originally thought too, but then I read a thread awhile back on a different message board that said that this version of "Surf's Up" was mislabelled as being from that TV show, but was actually recorded a year later in the studio.  I don't know where that poster got their information from though, and I didn't archive the thread, so I guess I'll chalk it up as faulty info, unless I hear otherwise.

[Charles LePage @ ComicList]

Alan, what song is Brad referring to in this post?

Is it the song discussed here?:  http://www2.gol.com/users/davidr/m&m/roominfo.html


[PSML] Re: Down to San Diego

From: Brad Elliott <surfsup@nts-online.net>
To: <petsounds@landlocked.iwaynet.net>
Reply-To: petsounds@landlocked.iwaynet.net
Date: Feb 27 2001 - 8:12pm

Somebody else probably has responded to this by now (I'm on the digest, so I
don't see all the posts right away), but in case they haven't ...

Dave Marshall wrote:

> Can someone help me remember the details concerning this song that I
believe
> had something to do with a BB convention?
>
> who wrote it, who is singing etc...?


To which Leon Lively responded:

> Al Jardine wrote/recorded it for the Beach Boys convention in 1991. It may
> have been a year or two earlier.

It's not Alan JARDINE! Rather, it's our own esteemed Alan BOYD of "Endless
Harmony" and "Hawthorne" fame! He wrote it and he's singing it! Step
forward and take a bow, Alan!

Surf's up!
Brad