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« Reply #475 on: February 21, 2019, 05:07:43 PM »

That hotel bar... Shocked
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« Reply #476 on: February 27, 2019, 02:14:32 PM »

I saw them in Fort Myers last night for the second time (previous visit was the December 2016 Xmas show) and would say:

Positives - I thought Brian Eichenberger was excellent on Don't Worry Baby. I loved the arrangement of In My Room and I think Bruce still does Disney Girls pretty well. The rhythm section is great and John Cowsill really pounds out those beats. Randy Leago plays a mean sax. Nine musicians on stage means you always get plenty of volume, but Totten also brings some subtlety to the arrangements (In My Room being the supreme example).

Neutral - Mike and Bruce deserve to be cut some slack at their age. Their voices are surviving better than Brian's, which was totally shot in Xmas show I saw. Exposing themselves to Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring a capella takes some balls, although Eichenberger carries that song to a large degree.

Negatives - Mike's solo stuff, which nobody wanted to hear, and the very ordinary lead of his son Christian on God Only Knows. Jeff's absence (which Mike didn't even acknowledge) affected some tunes such as 'Surfer Girl'. The setlist was predictably no-risk so we didn't even get Heroes and Villains. Mike is still milking 'Pisces Brother' and Pet Sounds 50th like he was in Dec 16, and I felt there was a subtext to his highlighting that Carl W and George Harrison both died from lung cancer (why mention it?).

Mike's movement - yes, he's down to a shuffle and I can foresee him needing more breaks like the one he takes during Disney Girls. Bruce is not doing much on the keyboards AFAIK (more of a prop these days?).

I thought it was worth the night out but I doubt I will need to see the band again, whereas Brian's band remains essential even if he's mostly just sitting there, provided he still wants to be sitting there.
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« Reply #477 on: February 27, 2019, 05:54:46 PM »

Bruce's keyboard has been a prop for forty years.
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« Reply #478 on: February 27, 2019, 06:21:38 PM »

I saw them in Fort Myers last night for the second time (previous visit was the December 2016 Xmas show) and would say:

Positives - I thought Brian Eichenberger was excellent on Don't Worry Baby. I loved the arrangement of In My Room and I think Bruce still does Disney Girls pretty well. The rhythm section is great and John Cowsill really pounds out those beats. Randy Leago plays a mean sax. Nine musicians on stage means you always get plenty of volume, but Totten also brings some subtlety to the arrangements (In My Room being the supreme example).

Neutral - Mike and Bruce deserve to be cut some slack at their age. Their voices are surviving better than Brian's, which was totally shot in Xmas show I saw. Exposing themselves to Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring a capella takes some balls, although Eichenberger carries that song to a large degree.

Negatives - Mike's solo stuff, which nobody wanted to hear, and the very ordinary lead of his son Christian on God Only Knows. Jeff's absence (which Mike didn't even acknowledge) affected some tunes such as 'Surfer Girl'. The setlist was predictably no-risk so we didn't even get Heroes and Villains. Mike is still milking 'Pisces Brother' and Pet Sounds 50th like he was in Dec 16, and I felt there was a subtext to his highlighting that Carl W and George Harrison both died from lung cancer (why mention it?).

Mike's movement - yes, he's down to a shuffle and I can foresee him needing more breaks like the one he takes during Disney Girls. Bruce is not doing much on the keyboards AFAIK (more of a prop these days?).

I thought it was worth the night out but I doubt I will need to see the band again, whereas Brian's band remains essential even if he's mostly just sitting there, provided he still wants to be sitting there.

Wait...how long have I been out of the loop...Brian Eichenberger's back and Foskett's gone?Huh
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« Reply #479 on: February 27, 2019, 06:36:39 PM »

I assumed Bruce's keyboard was a prop but this is what I was told by Scott Totten ...


"Bruce's keyboard is always on.  His keyboard is the main sound in DARLIN and the chorus and bridge of VIBES."
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« Reply #480 on: February 27, 2019, 06:57:11 PM »

I assumed Bruce's keyboard was a prop but this is what I was told by Scott Totten ...


"Bruce's keyboard is always on.  His keyboard is the main sound in DARLIN and the chorus and bridge of VIBES."


Holy crap, man!!! He must be worn out after having all that responsibility! What a farce.
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« Reply #481 on: February 28, 2019, 06:01:22 PM »

I saw them in Fort Myers last night for the second time (previous visit was the December 2016 Xmas show) and would say:

Positives - I thought Brian Eichenberger was excellent on Don't Worry Baby. I loved the arrangement of In My Room and I think Bruce still does Disney Girls pretty well. The rhythm section is great and John Cowsill really pounds out those beats. Randy Leago plays a mean sax. Nine musicians on stage means you always get plenty of volume, but Totten also brings some subtlety to the arrangements (In My Room being the supreme example).

Neutral - Mike and Bruce deserve to be cut some slack at their age. Their voices are surviving better than Brian's, which was totally shot in Xmas show I saw. Exposing themselves to Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring a capella takes some balls, although Eichenberger carries that song to a large degree.

Negatives - Mike's solo stuff, which nobody wanted to hear, and the very ordinary lead of his son Christian on God Only Knows. Jeff's absence (which Mike didn't even acknowledge) affected some tunes such as 'Surfer Girl'. The setlist was predictably no-risk so we didn't even get Heroes and Villains. Mike is still milking 'Pisces Brother' and Pet Sounds 50th like he was in Dec 16, and I felt there was a subtext to his highlighting that Carl W and George Harrison both died from lung cancer (why mention it?).

Mike's movement - yes, he's down to a shuffle and I can foresee him needing more breaks like the one he takes during Disney Girls. Bruce is not doing much on the keyboards AFAIK (more of a prop these days?).

I thought it was worth the night out but I doubt I will need to see the band again, whereas Brian's band remains essential even if he's mostly just sitting there, provided he still wants to be sitting there.

Wait...how long have I been out of the loop...Brian Eichenberger's back and Foskett's gone?Huh

I was thinking the same thing. Though, I thought I heard that Foskett had some illness and didn't take leads recently.
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« Reply #482 on: February 28, 2019, 06:53:14 PM »

I saw them in Fort Myers last night for the second time (previous visit was the December 2016 Xmas show) and would say:

Positives - I thought Brian Eichenberger was excellent on Don't Worry Baby. I loved the arrangement of In My Room and I think Bruce still does Disney Girls pretty well. The rhythm section is great and John Cowsill really pounds out those beats. Randy Leago plays a mean sax. Nine musicians on stage means you always get plenty of volume, but Totten also brings some subtlety to the arrangements (In My Room being the supreme example).

Neutral - Mike and Bruce deserve to be cut some slack at their age. Their voices are surviving better than Brian's, which was totally shot in Xmas show I saw. Exposing themselves to Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring a capella takes some balls, although Eichenberger carries that song to a large degree.

Negatives - Mike's solo stuff, which nobody wanted to hear, and the very ordinary lead of his son Christian on God Only Knows. Jeff's absence (which Mike didn't even acknowledge) affected some tunes such as 'Surfer Girl'. The setlist was predictably no-risk so we didn't even get Heroes and Villains. Mike is still milking 'Pisces Brother' and Pet Sounds 50th like he was in Dec 16, and I felt there was a subtext to his highlighting that Carl W and George Harrison both died from lung cancer (why mention it?).

Mike's movement - yes, he's down to a shuffle and I can foresee him needing more breaks like the one he takes during Disney Girls. Bruce is not doing much on the keyboards AFAIK (more of a prop these days?).

I thought it was worth the night out but I doubt I will need to see the band again, whereas Brian's band remains essential even if he's mostly just sitting there, provided he still wants to be sitting there.

Wait...how long have I been out of the loop...Brian Eichenberger's back and Foskett's gone?Huh

I was thinking the same thing. Though, I thought I heard that Foskett had some illness and didn't take leads recently.

That I remember too.  But still confused about the rest.  Has anyone else seen a recent M&B show to confirm this?
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« Reply #483 on: February 28, 2019, 06:58:07 PM »

I assumed Bruce's keyboard was a prop but this is what I was told by Scott Totten ...


"Bruce's keyboard is always on.  His keyboard is the main sound in DARLIN and the chorus and bridge of VIBES."

Yes, Scott told me the same exact thing. I have watched Bruce's keyboard intently during those songs and others from many viewpoints and at many different concerts and as a pianist myself, I will say with the utmost confidence that the only song he plays EVERY time, is "Disney Girls" on the cheesy 80's EP sound. I have also picked it up occasionally on "Don't Worry Baby" and have seen him give starting pitches for "Their Hearts Were Full of Spring" with that keyboard. That is it. I've never seen or heard anything to indicate playing on "Darlin" or "Good Vibrations". His hands are all over the place...and he is CONSTANTLY obsessed with the mix and signaling to the sound guy which makes it even funnier. The only other speculation I can make, is that he sometimes plays vocal harmony parts that are doubled only for in-ear monitoring and not in the house mix, which would explain why his playing seems out of time and inconsistent.
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« Reply #484 on: February 28, 2019, 09:39:14 PM »

I agree about Bruce's timing and hand placement. It does seem really all over the place. I have wondered for years if maybe his keyboard is indeed for vocal cues. I don't think Scott would purposely misguide any of us, so I think there is truth to his statements. It's obvious that Bruce doesn't do the heavy lifting, but I do think that his keyboard is more than an inaudible prop like the early BW tours with his keyboard or Dean Torrence's guitar. I think Bruce's keyboard is probably very similar to Al's guitar. Crucial back in the day, but now is more of a supporting instrument.
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« Reply #485 on: March 01, 2019, 04:16:22 AM »

Foskett was present on 2/2/2019 so I think he misses some gigs but not others.

For Bruce being all over the place, check out this clip. He has cue cards for some reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnzYw7p3qCI
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« Reply #486 on: March 01, 2019, 06:49:52 AM »

Bruce said this about his live concert keyboard playing in an interview with Howie Edelson:

"The point of my piano was to kind of keep my voice company. I thought, well, gosh, with some of these songs, If I can boogie and put the cushion under 'God Only Knows,' you won't really hear it unless I stop playing. Then you'll know something's gone."
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« Reply #487 on: March 01, 2019, 09:32:25 AM »

Regarding Foskett, while I have no particular knowledge, a usual tip-off to a fill-in being a quick, temporary fill-in is if, as in this case, Eichenberger is using Foskett's guitar. That typically means it was a quick, perhaps last minute, short-term deal.
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« Reply #488 on: March 01, 2019, 12:14:32 PM »

Foskett was present on 2/2/2019 so I think he misses some gigs but not others.

For Bruce being all over the place, check out this clip. He has cue cards for some reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnzYw7p3qCI

I've noticed those as well but have never had a vantage point to read them. Gosh that clip was rough, all the way around...
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