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Title: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 14, 2018, 07:57:41 AM
I looked through the 4 pages of the M&B 2018 tour thread, but saw very little info about dates, reviews etc. So I figured, why not start another. The guys who like to bash Mike can have at it on that thread, and this one can provide info on the tour itself.

Some of the announced dates

Feb. 14 — Sarasota, FL (Van Wezel Performing Arts Hall)
Feb. 15 — Fort Pierce, FL (Sunrise Theatre)
Feb. 16 — West Palm Beach, FL (Kravis Center for the Performing Arts)
Feb. 18 — Naples, FL (Hayes Hall, Naples Museum of Art)
Feb. 24 — Dallas, TX (Mesquite Arena, Mesquite ISD Education Foundation Annual Gala)
Feb. 28 — Modesto, CA (Gallo Center for the Arts)
 
March 1 — Visalia, CA (Fox Theatre)
March 3 — Thousand Oaks, CA (Fred Kavli Theater)
March 4 — Palm Desert, CA (McCallum Theatre, 2 shows, 3 p.m. and 7 p.m
March 9 — St. Joseph, MO (Missouri Theater)
March 11 — Chandler, AZ (Ostrich Festival, Tumbleweed Park, Main Stage)
March 17 — Westbury, NY (Theatre at Westbury)
March 18 — Kingston, NY (Ulster Performing Arts Center)
March 20 — Collingswood, NJ (Scottish Rite Auditorium)
March 21 — Red Bank, NJ (Count Basie Theatre)
March 22 — Shippensburg, PA (Luhrs Center)
March 23 — Reading, PA (Santander Performing Arts Center)
March 24 — Wilkes-Barre, PA (F.M. Kirby Center for the Performing Arts)
 

[May 9 — Youngstown, OH (Stambaugh Auditorium)
May 10 — Wabash, IN (Honeywell Center)
May 11 — Holland, MI (Tulip Time Festival, Central Wesleyan Auditorium)
May 12 — Columbus, OH (Columbus Symphony Orchestra, Ohio Theatre)
May 13 — Louisville, KY (Kentucky Center)

May 25 - Springfield, IL, USA (Springfield Sliders Stadium)
May 26- Herrin, IL, USA (HerrinFesta Italiana
)
 


July 1 -San Rafael, CA,  (Marin County Fair)
July 13-14 -Fishers, IN, (Conner Prairie)
July 17-  Interlochen MI
July 18 - Sylvania,OH (Centennial Terrace)
July 19-  Detroit, MI (Freedom Hill)
Jul 20-Rama,ON (Casino Rama)
July 21 — Kemptville, ON, Canada (Kemptville College, Kemptville Live Music Festival)

July 22- Edmonton, ALTA, Canada (Edmonton Northlands)
July 25- Columbus,OH (Ohio State Fairgrounds), 7 pm
Jul 27-New Buffalo, MI, (Four Winds Casino)
Jul 29- Alton, IL., (Liberty Bank Amphitheatre)
 

Aug 2 -Fredericksburg, VA, (Marks & Harrison Amphitheater)
Aug 4-Lancaster, PA,  (American Music Theatre) 2 Shows
Aug. 3 - Selbyville, DE (Freeman Stage)
Aug 5 -  Bethel, NY (Bethel Woods Center)
Aug 6 - Canadaigua, NY (Constellation Brands-Marvin Sands Performing Arts Center)
Aug. 7 - Tioga Downs, NY
Aug 8 -Cohasset, MA, (South Shore Music Circus)
Aug 9-Hampton Beach, NH, (Hampton Beach Casino Ballroom)
Aug 10 -Hampton Beach, NH, (Hampton Beach Casino Ballroom)
Aug 11 -Hyannis, MA, (Cape Cod Melody Tent) 2 Shows
Aug. 12
— Webster, MA (Indian Ranch, 2 p.m.)
Aug. 14 - Bethlehem, PA (Event Center, 7 P.M.)
Aug 15 -Ridgefield, CT, (Ridgefield Playhouse)
Aug. 18 - Ocean Grove, NJ (Great Auditorium, 7 P.M.)
Aug. 20-21 — Ocean City, NJ (Ocean City Music Pier)
Aug. 22 — St. Paul, MN (Ordway Center for the Performing Arts)
Aug 25-  Franklin, WI, (Milwaukee County Sports Center)
Aug 26- Moline, IL. (Tax Slayer Center, 7 P.M.)
Aug 27- Minnesota State Fair

Sept. 1, San Pedro. (USS Iowa)

Sept. 15-Hutchinson KS (Kansas State Fair 7:30 P.M.)
Sept. 16-Saratoga CA (The Mountain Winery)
Sept.17-Modesto CA (Gallo Center For The Arts)
Sept.19-Bakersfield CA (Kern County Fair)
Sept. 20-Pomona, CA (LA County Fair)
Sept. 21-Santa Barbara, CA (The Granada Theatre)
Sept. 22-San Diego, CA (Humpreys by The Bay)
Sept. 28 - Minot, N.D.( Norsk Hostfest 7:30 P.M)
Sept. 30 - West Springfield, MA, (Eastern States Exposition

Oct. 4-Brandon, MS. (Brandon Ampitheatre)
Oct.5-Biloxi, MS (Beau Rivage)
Oct.6-Biloxi, MS (Beau Rivage)


Nov. 13-Huntsville, Ala. –(Mark C. Smith Concert Hall at the VBC)
Nov.14, 15- Nashville TN (Ryman)
Nov. 16- Chatanooga, TN (Tivoli Theatre)
Nov. 17- Greenville, TN (Niswanger Performing Arts Center)
Nov.18-Knoxville, TN (Tennessee Theatre)
Nov. 19- Schuster Permorming Arts Center)

Dec. 18- Wilmington, NC (Wilson Center) 7:30


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on February 14, 2018, 08:01:02 AM
Thanks for the thread!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 14, 2018, 08:08:00 AM
Im assuming more July and August dates will be added. 

Perhaps, Mike is lessening his workload a bit in 2018?  In honestly, thats probably overdue especially when you consider the amount of shows their peers, such as McCartney, Ringo, The Stones, The Who, Roger Waters do these days. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 14, 2018, 08:12:21 AM
Im assuming more July and August dates will be added. 

Perhaps, Mike is lessening his workload a bit in 2018?  In honestly, thats probably overdue especially when you consider the amount of shows their peers, such as McCartney, Ringo, The Stones, The Who, Roger Waters do these days. 

I gotta assume a lot more dates will be added. I can't see him backing off unless physically unable to tour.
Looking at this years 'official' photo, it looks like Mike has slimmed down a bit. But maybe that's photoshop, lol.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 14, 2018, 09:18:35 AM
Historically on this board, there has always been little interest in Mike's tour dates (certainly for a tour that tours all year, every year).

One can obviously interpret that as something that is more to do with this board, or more to do with the quality and/or ubiquitous nature of Mike's never-ending touring. I'd say it's mostly the latter.

Also, if one has followed Mike's tour and scheduling habits over the years, they will have found that Mike never really "announces" a tour. He never unveils a tour schedule. It just sort of continually exists and is updated on an ongoing basis. It takes a few months into the year for summer tour dates to fill out.

All of this is a result of over-extending the brand and never taking a break from touring. It would actually be a big deal, worth "announcing" a big tour, if Mike wasn't doing 150 shows per year, every year. There's no buzz factor. Mike's tour runs off of brand name recognition, pure momentum, and fluff pieces a week or two in advance in many of the markets he hits.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 14, 2018, 10:07:45 AM
Im assuming more July and August dates will be added. 

Perhaps, Mike is lessening his workload a bit in 2018?  In honestly, thats probably overdue especially when you consider the amount of shows their peers, such as McCartney, Ringo, The Stones, The Who, Roger Waters do these days. 

Most likely.   July and August are pretty bare right now. 

I wonder if there will be a theme.  I doubt Friends50.   

I gotta assume a lot more dates will be added. I can't see him backing off unless physically unable to tour.
Looking at this years 'official' photo, it looks like Mike has slimmed down a bit. But maybe that's photoshop, lol.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 14, 2018, 10:14:52 AM
Historically on this board, there has always been little interest in Mike's tour dates (certainly for a tour that tours all year, every year).

One can obviously interpret that as something that is more to do with this board, or more to do with the quality and/or ubiquitous nature of Mike's never-ending touring. I'd say it's mostly the latter.

Also, if one has followed Mike's tour and scheduling habits over the years, they will have found that Mike never really "announces" a tour. He never unveils a tour schedule. It just sort of continually exists and is updated on an ongoing basis. It takes a few months into the year for summer tour dates to fill out.

All of this is a result of over-extending the brand and never taking a break from touring. It would actually be a big deal, worth "announcing" a big tour, if Mike wasn't doing 150 shows per year, every year. There's no buzz factor. Mike's tour runs off of brand name recognition, pure momentum, and fluff pieces a week or two in advance in many of the markets he hits.

Lets be honest.  On this forum, it has a LOT to do with the former. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on February 14, 2018, 10:55:34 AM
And why would that be, exactly?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Rob Dean on February 14, 2018, 11:04:15 AM
Im assuming more July and August dates will be added. 

Perhaps, Mike is lessening his workload a bit in 2018?  In honestly, thats probably overdue especially when you consider the amount of shows their peers, such as McCartney, Ringo, The Stones, The Who, Roger Waters do these days. 

Peers ? Hey, they are all far too Chicken sh*t to get on a stage with The Beach Boys  ;-)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: oldsurferdude on February 14, 2018, 11:25:27 AM
And why would that be, exactly?

One reason could be that familiarity breeds contempt.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 14, 2018, 11:53:49 AM
Historically on this board, there has always been little interest in Mike's tour dates (certainly for a tour that tours all year, every year).

One can obviously interpret that as something that is more to do with this board, or more to do with the quality and/or ubiquitous nature of Mike's never-ending touring. I'd say it's mostly the latter.

Also, if one has followed Mike's tour and scheduling habits over the years, they will have found that Mike never really "announces" a tour. He never unveils a tour schedule. It just sort of continually exists and is updated on an ongoing basis. It takes a few months into the year for summer tour dates to fill out.

All of this is a result of over-extending the brand and never taking a break from touring. It would actually be a big deal, worth "announcing" a big tour, if Mike wasn't doing 150 shows per year, every year. There's no buzz factor. Mike's tour runs off of brand name recognition, pure momentum, and fluff pieces a week or two in advance in many of the markets he hits.

Lets be honest.  On this forum, it has a LOT to do with the former.  

The former is caused by the latter. There's a reason people don't care to follow his touring. Using the BB name, past years of sub-par shows, an antagonistic and insulting attitude towards his former bandmates, a show increasingly focused on backing members singing leads, and his dilution of the band due to excessive touring, are all causes of disinterest among many fans.

The audience Mike *does* have is often extremely casual. I know more about his band lineup, history, and member changes, etc. than most of the people that go to his shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on February 14, 2018, 12:48:21 PM
Historically on this board, there has always been little interest in Mike's tour dates (certainly for a tour that tours all year, every year).

One can obviously interpret that as something that is more to do with this board, or more to do with the quality and/or ubiquitous nature of Mike's never-ending touring. I'd say it's mostly the latter.

Also, if one has followed Mike's tour and scheduling habits over the years, they will have found that Mike never really "announces" a tour. He never unveils a tour schedule. It just sort of continually exists and is updated on an ongoing basis. It takes a few months into the year for summer tour dates to fill out.

All of this is a result of over-extending the brand and never taking a break from touring. It would actually be a big deal, worth "announcing" a big tour, if Mike wasn't doing 150 shows per year, every year. There's no buzz factor. Mike's tour runs off of brand name recognition, pure momentum, and fluff pieces a week or two in advance in many of the markets he hits.

Lets be honest.  On this forum, it has a LOT to do with the former. 

The former is caused by the latter. There's a reason people don't care to follow his touring. Using the BB name, past years of sub-par shows, an antagonist and insulting attitude towards his former bandmates, a show increasingly focused on backing members singing leads, and his dilution of the band die to excessive touring, are all causes of disinterest among many fans.

The audience Mike *does* have is often extremely casual. I know more about his band lineup, history, and member changes, etc. than most of the people that go to his shows.

The first paragraph sums up my feelings. I will defend Mike’s talent until the end of time, but how he treats people rubs me the wrong way, and some of the people whom he associates with I find odious (not referring to his band which is mostly excellent).


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on February 14, 2018, 01:22:19 PM
Im assuming more July and August dates will be added. 

Perhaps, Mike is lessening his workload a bit in 2018?  In honestly, thats probably overdue especially when you consider the amount of shows their peers, such as McCartney, Ringo, The Stones, The Who, Roger Waters do these days. 

I don't think they did any shows from December 10th through February 10th.  I'd have to check Bellagio, but I don't think they've taken off two consecutive months for quite some time. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Dave in KC on February 14, 2018, 05:01:22 PM
How would you like to be Mike doing shows in southern FLA through the next several days?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on February 14, 2018, 06:11:11 PM
How would you like to be Mike doing shows in southern FLA through the next several days?

Seeing that he's got more money than he'll ever need in this life, I'd say it would be a good gesture to donate his cut of the proceeds to the families that lost loved ones. but I'm not gonna hold my breath.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on February 14, 2018, 07:20:56 PM
If it were me, i would do it, but that’s one of the differences between him and i


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on February 14, 2018, 07:35:06 PM
While I too think that more dates will be coming, it is unusual for the summer in particular to be so light right now. It's also unusual for them to take over two full months off from December into February. I can't help but wonder if Bruce's health is a factor here. I'm not trying to be rude, he does not look healthy at all.

Another possibility could be that Mike and Bruce are jumping on this package tour craze that is really sweeping the classic rock/oldies circuit this year. There are a LOT of package tours this summer...more than usual...and they're pretty much all bands that are lacking key members. Mike and Bruce would fit right in. Even though they typically don't "announce" a tour, something like this would probably yield an announcement...and would explain why there's a big block of the summer still open.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 15, 2018, 06:45:28 AM
I don't know what Mike's tour plans are for this year, but again, it takes until several months into the year to fill out the summer tour schedule. You can even go back to the "Internet Wayback Machine" and look at things like the BBFC website and see that as of, say, February 2016, the summer 2016 tour schedule wasn't filled out.

No offense to Bruce, but I doubt his health figures heavily into Mike's tour schedule. If Bruce decided to leave the road (or was otherwise unable to tour), I doubt Mike would change what he's doing so long as *he* (Mike) is doing whatever he wants to do.

I could certainly envision Mike finally going at least a *little* lighter on the tour schedule, not even so much because he can't handle the work load (again, no offense, but the other guys in the band are doing most of the heavy lifting), but because the backing band can occasionally sound a big tired and ragged when they do like 14 shows in 15 days like they sometimes have done on recent tours, and also because I'd imagine maybe Mike actually wants to enjoy non-touring life at least a *little* more.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 15, 2018, 11:27:09 AM
The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Debbie KL on February 15, 2018, 11:46:11 AM
I don't know what Mike's tour plans are for this year, but again, it takes until several months into the year to fill out the summer tour schedule. You can even go back to the "Internet Wayback Machine" and look at things like the BBFC website and see that as of, say, February 2016, the summer 2016 tour schedule wasn't filled out.

No offense to Bruce, but I doubt his health figures heavily into Mike's tour schedule. If Bruce decided to leave the road (or was otherwise unable to tour), I doubt Mike would change what he's doing so long as *he* (Mike) is doing whatever he wants to do.

I could certainly envision Mike finally going at least a *little* lighter on the tour schedule, not even so much because he can't handle the work load (again, no offense, but the other guys in the band are doing most of the heavy lifting), but because the backing band can occasionally sound a big tired and ragged when they do like 14 shows in 15 days like they sometimes have done on recent tours, and also because I'd imagine maybe Mike actually wants to enjoy non-touring life at least a *little* more.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Mike need Bruce, or some other "original" BB to maintain the touring license?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on February 15, 2018, 12:17:03 PM
I don't think that applies any longer. Years ago, there was a clause that mandated a certain  number of Beach Boys appear at a show, may have even been at least 1 Wilson appear on stage. Could be wrong though.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on February 15, 2018, 12:26:33 PM
That’s kinda messed up. Let’s say mike gets strep throat and can’t sing. Is it still a Beach Boys show?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on February 15, 2018, 12:46:31 PM
Or he sings Unleash the Love...........

( isnt there an  American law that  ONE member must be an original ?)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 15, 2018, 12:48:37 PM
I don't think that applies any longer. Years ago, there was a clause that mandated a certain  number of Beach Boys appear at a show, may have even been at least 1 Wilson appear on stage. Could be wrong though.

I don't think that's the case as I believe the licensing agreement was drawn up after Carl's passing. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 15, 2018, 01:24:15 PM
While we're obviously not privy to the precise ins-and-outs of the licensing agreement, it appears that there is no longer any requirement for more than one Beach Boy on stage.

If I had to guess, I would guess the license would require Mike to be present (and even if it didn't, I HIGHLY doubt Mike would let a show go on without him).

But given Bruce's hand full of short absences in the post-1998 timeframe, it would appear there's no requirement for him or any second "core" member to be there.

There was a period of time after Carl's passing where all of this was a bit murky. I recall an interview with David Marks back soon after he left in 1999 where, as I recall, he implied one of the reasons he was brought on was to keep a certain core number of core/original members on stage. But this probably applied to his entrance into the band in 1997 prior to Carl's death.

Mike first had a non-exclusive license by July of 1998 or so. I don't know if there were any minimum member requirements at that time. But it appears that by the time he had the exclusive license in 1999, any requirement was no longer in place. Hence, David Marks leaving in July 1999 did not result in frantic calls to Al Jardine to recruit him back into the band.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Eric Aniversario on February 17, 2018, 02:19:34 AM
The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: JK on February 17, 2018, 02:37:30 AM
The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.

Most curiously, Brian is down as a comedy act at Bensalem PA on May 8th!

http://petsoundsforum.com/thread/2294/new-bw-show?page=1&scrollTo=57133


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 17, 2018, 09:30:42 AM
The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.

Most curiously, Brian is down as a comedy act at Bensalem PA on May 8th!

http://petsoundsforum.com/thread/2294/new-bw-show?page=1&scrollTo=57133

Maybe thwy've heard Brian's lighter joke. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 18, 2018, 11:03:44 AM
Historically on this board, there has always been little interest in Mike's tour dates (certainly for a tour that tours all year, every year).

One can obviously interpret that as something that is more to do with this board, or more to do with the quality and/or ubiquitous nature of Mike's never-ending touring. I'd say it's mostly the latter.

Also, if one has followed Mike's tour and scheduling habits over the years, they will have found that Mike never really "announces" a tour. He never unveils a tour schedule. It just sort of continually exists and is updated on an ongoing basis. It takes a few months into the year for summer tour dates to fill out.

All of this is a result of over-extending the brand and never taking a break from touring. It would actually be a big deal, worth "announcing" a big tour, if Mike wasn't doing 150 shows per year, every year. There's no buzz factor. Mike's tour runs off of brand name recognition, pure momentum, and fluff pieces a week or two in advance in many of the markets he hits.

Lets be honest.  On this forum, it has a LOT to do with the former. 

KDS - You never explained your answer above.

So how about it? Just another chance to take an unnecessary shot at this forum with nothing to back it up? Please explain.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 18, 2018, 12:22:22 PM
Historically on this board, there has always been little interest in Mike's tour dates (certainly for a tour that tours all year, every year).

One can obviously interpret that as something that is more to do with this board, or more to do with the quality and/or ubiquitous nature of Mike's never-ending touring. I'd say it's mostly the latter.

Also, if one has followed Mike's tour and scheduling habits over the years, they will have found that Mike never really "announces" a tour. He never unveils a tour schedule. It just sort of continually exists and is updated on an ongoing basis. It takes a few months into the year for summer tour dates to fill out.

All of this is a result of over-extending the brand and never taking a break from touring. It would actually be a big deal, worth "announcing" a big tour, if Mike wasn't doing 150 shows per year, every year. There's no buzz factor. Mike's tour runs off of brand name recognition, pure momentum, and fluff pieces a week or two in advance in many of the markets he hits.

Lets be honest.  On this forum, it has a LOT to do with the former. 

KDS - You never explained your answer above.

So how about it? Just another chance to take an unnecessary shot at this forum with nothing to back it up? Please explain.

You have to admit there's a heavy anti Mike bias.   


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 18, 2018, 12:33:47 PM
The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.

Just for Laughs is a pretty large scale event. And yes the focus in on comedy acts, but I think they have an outdoor 'compound' that probably has some food/drink/merchandise areas and an outdoor stage for music...though I'm not 100% on that.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 18, 2018, 12:40:57 PM
Historically on this board, there has always been little interest in Mike's tour dates (certainly for a tour that tours all year, every year).

One can obviously interpret that as something that is more to do with this board, or more to do with the quality and/or ubiquitous nature of Mike's never-ending touring. I'd say it's mostly the latter.

Also, if one has followed Mike's tour and scheduling habits over the years, they will have found that Mike never really "announces" a tour. He never unveils a tour schedule. It just sort of continually exists and is updated on an ongoing basis. It takes a few months into the year for summer tour dates to fill out.

All of this is a result of over-extending the brand and never taking a break from touring. It would actually be a big deal, worth "announcing" a big tour, if Mike wasn't doing 150 shows per year, every year. There's no buzz factor. Mike's tour runs off of brand name recognition, pure momentum, and fluff pieces a week or two in advance in many of the markets he hits.

Lets be honest.  On this forum, it has a LOT to do with the former.  

KDS - You never explained your answer above.

So how about it? Just another chance to take an unnecessary shot at this forum with nothing to back it up? Please explain.

You have to admit there's a heavy anti Mike bias.  

Compared to what or where else, KDS? I'm tired of these posts calling out or blaming this specific board and the people here for something that exists across the internet and has existed for decades, the overwhelming majority of it existing in reaction to what Mike actually does and says publicly.

Are there other forums where people are regularly posting reviews or commentary about Mike's live shows? There used to be one poster on the Britain board regularly posting gushing reviews of his live shows from the tents of the Cape Cod area to any random venue where he played, but even that seems to have stopped or at least slowed down.

And this "bias" you mention may just have as much to do with fans - yes, even longtime or diehard fans - reacting to what Mike actually does or says on a regular basis, rather than an inherent need to bash Mike or a bias you and others continue to cite. If fans can't react to what the guy does or says negatively without having it called a heavy bias on this or other outlets, you're looking for rose-colored glasses that might come free with a few buckets of whitewash and cheap paint rollers.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: rab2591 on February 18, 2018, 12:57:14 PM
Honestly KDS, I visit the PS forum from time to time, and lately the only time I see some passive aggressive swipe against this forum is when you’re the one doing it. Everyone else seems to be growing up and moving on, except you, which I find to be ironic because you post here as much as anyone else here. If you’ve got a problem with specific people, then come out and say it. Do you have a problem with specific reasons why people dislike Mike? Then come out and say it. You say that some on “other forums” would be surprised that you’d pick Brian over Mike as your favorite beach boy? Who here would even care!?

Did you read Mike’s 2005 lawsuit?
Have you read any one of his interviews in the last 5 years regarding Brian?

You don’t want to acknowledge these things actually happened? Totally fine! But don’t pretend like people on this forum hate Mike just to hate Mike. Seriously, let’s talk about that 2005 lawsuit and please change my mind as to why lying about Brian doesn’t make Mike an absolute schmuck. Seriously, I’d love for anyone to change my mind about that. But until then stop taking swipes at this forum because some here have certain views about Mike.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 18, 2018, 01:15:22 PM
I'd add a correction that KDS's posts are not the only swipes regularly being taken at this place or people here, but the others are mostly from disgruntled former members from this board who found a new home and an open mic, and may be upset that no one is listening and no minds are being changed. That's who they are, and what they do (and have done for years). It's all laid out. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on February 18, 2018, 03:09:45 PM
There’s a few others, but the oddest one is from Mujan/Super Metroid  who has stated that she felt upset that there was no response to the bullying she received , which is not true. Not only did I stick up for her, I banned the person doing the lions share of it... who now posts there at PSF , for what it’s worth.

For the most part though, most of the people there are cool, no issues with steamboat, Becca, Will Harris, etc. it’s the people like the ones GF mentioned that are an issue albeit increasingly smaller. I think most people on both boards have put the issues behind them.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on February 18, 2018, 04:17:47 PM
I don’t get the anti Mike mention either. I’ve been posting here for years. When Brian made GIOMH (a dud) the posts were predominantly negative. Bruce adjusts his mic and we comment on that. Al flubs lines and that is highlighted. Big deal!

However we have for better or worse, the self appointed spokesman of the group (he chooses to pay the licensing fee for the name) plugging 150 shows a year and talking to literally hundreds of media organisations. Statistically because he says the most he is going to shoot himself in the foot more than other group members. Mike has been in the industry for almost 60 years and should know the ropes by now. Saying the same inflammatory statements time and time again then bitching about the criticism calls in to question his mindset and he admits he has issues.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on February 18, 2018, 04:29:52 PM
100% on the money


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Dave in KC on February 18, 2018, 05:16:40 PM
The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.

Gotta be careful here or Bruce will say something like they have time to play your funeral.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on February 18, 2018, 05:20:52 PM
The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.

Gotta be careful here or Bruce will say something like they have time to play your funeral.
I write the insults!  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on February 18, 2018, 06:43:24 PM
The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.

Gotta be careful here or Bruce will say something like they have time to play your funeral.
I write the insults!  :lol

Or, The Nearest Funeral Place.  ;)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 20, 2018, 10:45:30 AM
The Beach Boys. July 18th - White Family Dealership 2018 Concert Series at Centennial Terrace, 5773, Centennial Rd., Sylvania.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 20, 2018, 10:48:21 AM
July 19th Detroit. Freedom Hill. The Beach Boys


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Jim V. on February 20, 2018, 12:46:19 PM
There’s a few others, but the oddest one is from Mujan/Super Metroid  who has stated that she felt upset that there was no response to the bullying she received , which is not true. Not only did I stick up for her, I banned the person doing the lions share of it... who now posts there at PSF , for what it’s worth.

For the most part though, most of the people there are cool, no issues with steamboat, Becca, Will Harris, etc. it’s the people like the ones GF mentioned that are an issue albeit increasingly smaller. I think most people on both boards have put the issues behind them.

I agree with you Billy. And I gotta say, Mujan is especially weird because I'd say that Smiley Smile is a much more open, socially progressive board than PSF and people like The Real Beach Boy and mikesbeard and other homophobic/transphobic types on that board.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on February 20, 2018, 01:02:38 PM
There’s a few others, but the oddest one is from Mujan/Super Metroid  who has stated that she felt upset that there was no response to the bullying she received , which is not true. Not only did I stick up for her, I banned the person doing the lions share of it... who now posts there at PSF , for what it’s worth.

For the most part though, most of the people there are cool, no issues with steamboat, Becca, Will Harris, etc. it’s the people like the ones GF mentioned that are an issue albeit increasingly smaller. I think most people on both boards have put the issues behind them.

I agree with you Billy. And I gotta say, Mujan is especially weird because I'd say that Smiley Smile is a much more open, socially progressive board than PSF and people like The Real Beach Boy and mikesbeard and other homophobic/transphobic types on that board.

It's a case of a few bad apples, not the whole board. It just bothers me that someone left for a specific reason that WAS being addressed, then calls us out for not addressing the issue. Well, that's not the only thing that bothers me about that, but that's a big part of it.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 22, 2018, 11:18:39 AM
June 23rd. Pala Casino Spa and Resort- Pala CA

"...Most recently, in 2017, Love released a special double album through BMG entitled Unleash the Love. Featuring 13 previously unreleased songs and 14 re-recordings of Beach Boys classics, the album is a testament to and a continuation of Love's remarkable career. The Beach Boys continue to tour today with an impressive list of dates planned for 2018, following a record-setting year of 2017 performing over 175 shows and grossing over $23 million worldwide."


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on February 23, 2018, 12:09:49 AM
As they get older at some point as they get older they won’t be able to perform any more. The name should be retired at that point. I don’t want to see Jeff Foskett’s Band of Bastards (tm) in 2027 pass themselves off as The Beach Boys with an entirely new backing band.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on February 23, 2018, 05:53:15 AM
I am fairly sure that an authorised BB will continue, in same way as the current New Christy Minstrels -- who.used to.be soloists or whatever. Better that than yet another "tribute" band. A  licence should give some standard to be reached


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: the captain on February 23, 2018, 07:48:11 AM
I'd be shocked if no authorized band continued, as well.

The thing is, it could be amazing--a really great band. And sure, it would lack original members (by definition of the thought experiment). But ... does that really matter when you consider what these touring bands are right now? If you're personally set on watching those principals, then yes, even though every single one of them is a diminished version of his prior self (yes, even Al, who is still amazing for his age but not the little boy I once knew, oooh-ooh-ooh-ooh). If that's the case, I suggest that's more a nostalgia trip for you than a musical one anyway. Please don't take offense, I'm calling it like I see it.

But otherwise, those bands aren't out performing new music, with only rare exceptions: a song here and there, for the most part, at least since BW's Gershwin album tour. And even in the 00s, those BW tours were at least half oldies, with the first sets and encores sandwiching the new albums. (One of the three of those he performed in full was mostly old, too.) These are legacy bands performing old hits (or non-hits, sometimes). That's just a fact.

A band comprising the best of the non-principals across the current bands would be technically better than one with the principals. I'd without question pay to see such a band. I like all the drummers, so give me Cowsill, D'Amico, Hines, or Sucherman. Give me Totten, Sahanaja, Matt Jardine, Ike, Foskett, in a better universe an innocent Bennett, Gregory, Walusko, Mertens. You can fiddle with the specifics. The C50 band, though, plus Matt J and Ike, would be an amazing group to perform those amazing songs. I won't say there's nothing at all missing when the original guys aren't up there ... but there's no worse music being performed, and probably better music being performed in that situation. What's missing is emotional or nostalgic, not quality of music.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 23, 2018, 08:45:03 AM
I'm not in favor of continuing a band's name and licensing it if no original members are able to be on the stage or studio. When it's The Beach Boys, one of the bands in the upper echelon of popular music history, there is a responsibility to the legacy that has to be upheld. It's more than a name that can be sold to the highest bidder - or former sidemen who want it to be able to charge more for tickets based on the name. Other groups who do the name license thing generally are not near the status of The Beach Boys. I cannot imagine anyone suggesting The Beatles, Stones, Who, Zeppelin, or anyone in that caliber of artists would continue touring without original key members.



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: the captain on February 23, 2018, 08:54:54 AM
Well there you go. That's the difference between us. I disagree entirely that there is any responsibility to any kind of legacy in any case: if a band/entity wants to do it, fine. If not, fine. (I'm not saying it's something I WANT as a general rule, necessarily. Just that they have a right to it.)

But even allowing for the legacy line of thinking, I'd say any claims to some integrity of the original unit is long-since sullied, with members coming and going, sidemen handling major lifting, assorted unpleasantries between factions, etc. That's one key difference between the Beach Boys and the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and the like. Those bands broke up when they broke up. The Beach Boys were seemingly always breaking up and shifting things around. So to my thinking, they are more a brand than a band anyway and have been for decades. They more resemble the Basie band, etc.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 23, 2018, 09:13:56 AM
We do disagree Captain, I think the issue too is that the world of jazz, big bands, and dance bands that you're citing Count Basie as an example are a different universe with a different set of parameters than the rock and roll bands. Big bands since the 30's had shifting membership which fans of those bands (like my mom for one, back in the day lol) used to follow and keep track of who was in what band. Like who was Harry James playing with, where did *insert musician* end up now, etc. Like following a sports team and all the trades and deals that changed the roster.

Rock changed all that. For one, the core groups of players were just that - The bands were a core group of members that fans knew. Cite any example of the bands in the upper echelon and fans can name the core group. Anything less, minus the usual shifting of one or 2 members, wouldn't be the same.

Let me pose this as a question. I love the album "Time Out" by the Dave Brubeck Quartet. Would I pay to see a group calling itself "The Dave Brubeck Quartet" in 2018 playing that album live? I would not, because the key members are dead. It's as simple as that. If a group under another name were doing it, I wouldn't have an issue at all because they're not trying to take the name.

The big bands, like Basie, Miller, Dorsey? Yes, they all have touring versions and have for decades, long after the namesake bandleader had died...in Miller's case, since 1944. But they play the original book that everyone knows and expects to hear, and apart from the leader's name, there was never quite the same "core" group of musicians in any majority number traveling with those bands, with some exceptions.

But it's not quite the same scene as if we got a Led Zeppelin tour in 2027 with guys named Freddie, Jack, Smitty, and Sunny Jim playing the tunes instead of Page, Plant, or Jones. It would be a farce unless that group goes out as a tribute or cover band and didn't call themselves Led Zeppelin. I think in some cases like Zeppelin, fans would actually think it was so absurd they may even laugh at it instead of buying tickets, and why not at that point just do a tribute band like exists now for everyone from Led Zep to The Talking Heads at this point?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on February 23, 2018, 09:17:51 AM
Ah, but guitarfool....tribute bands steal clothes anyway. I wd favour continuity to stop that at least, or at least to reduce it


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 23, 2018, 09:24:15 AM
Ah, but guitarfool....tribute bands steal clothes anyway. I wd favour continuity to stop that at least, or at least to reduce it

haha, I can see that. Honestly, and I don't mean to offend here, but it's become more than tired and played out to see upcoming concerts by various Beach Boys tribute bands and see all the members wearing Hawaiian shirts. I mean, guys...we get it. Fun in the sun, party, beach balls...etc. But it does make me laugh to see these billings and ads and it seems they are always sporting Hawaiian shirts. You don't need Hawaiian shirts just because you're a Beach Boys cover band. That's the kind of C-level showbiz hackery that I get a kick out of.

The tribute band that does it right? I mean this 100% seriously, no joke. The Fab Faux. Besides the fact that among the members are Will Lee on bass and Jimmy Vivino on guitar, two of my favorite players in general, they don't wear Sgt Pepper costumes or don fake moustaches and Beatle wigs to play the shows. They put all their energy into paying tribute to the music, and getting the minute details of the music spot-on, which is why I love them.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on February 23, 2018, 09:43:40 AM
I agree. It makes me laugh, not in a good way, too see Tributes thus. Fendertones must be a high standard for competitors.....except they arent competing. Now THAT is a tribute


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: the captain on February 23, 2018, 09:51:23 AM

Rock changed all that. For one, the core groups of players were just that - The bands were a core group of members that fans knew. Cite any example of the bands in the upper echelon and fans can name the core group. Anything less, minus the usual shifting of one or 2 members, wouldn't be the same.

Let me pose this as a question. I love the album "Time Out" by the Dave Brubeck Quartet. Would I pay to see a group calling itself "The Dave Brubeck Quartet" in 2018 playing that album live? I would not, because the key members are dead. It's as simple as that. If a group under another name were doing it, I wouldn't have an issue at all because they're not trying to take the name.


This would hold more water with me if the Beach Boys followed that model. But the touring band The Beach Boys has had dozens of people in and out through the years, and most audience members probably knew little to nothing about who was who beyond recognizing a couple of the principals. The Beach Boys have operated more like the jazz bands than they have like the Beatles or Led Zeppelin. If you can be The Beach Boys with one Beach Boy on stage, with non-Beach Boys in the band for decades, and with non-Beach Boys carrying prominent roles, then you can be the Beach Boys with one fewer.

Any damage to the legacy is already done. I'm reminded of the old quote "haggling over the price" line often attributed to Churchill and to Shaw.

As to the second paragraph I left, there is no question (for me) in it. You asked yourself a question: would you pay to see that band. You answered yourself with a no. And that's fine. I am not saying you would. But that's irrelevant to me.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 23, 2018, 10:21:44 AM
While the BB's brand/trademark has been watered down to the point where, as has been established over the last 20 years, it *can* continue to exist with few (and surely zero) original members and have some level of success, the fact that the band name *can* exist regardless of membership doesn't mean that membership in the band doesn't impact its success. By that I mean the C50 tour. That tour garnered bookings, advances, and interest that Mike's tour doesn't (and never could). That tour could have continued and had the ability, *unlike* most again Motown and other oldies acts with few if any original members, to *build* up on that success and actually *change* the perception and brand/value.

As Howie Edelson referenced some time back regarding what an industry person said about C50 (and its demise), C50 managed to turn an AARP brand into an arena act. That *is* very rare. That's where the BB name and reputation *does* have some remnant of a "classic rock" type of band where its reconstituted form can bring fans and ticket sales back.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 23, 2018, 10:30:00 AM

Rock changed all that. For one, the core groups of players were just that - The bands were a core group of members that fans knew. Cite any example of the bands in the upper echelon and fans can name the core group. Anything less, minus the usual shifting of one or 2 members, wouldn't be the same.

Let me pose this as a question. I love the album "Time Out" by the Dave Brubeck Quartet. Would I pay to see a group calling itself "The Dave Brubeck Quartet" in 2018 playing that album live? I would not, because the key members are dead. It's as simple as that. If a group under another name were doing it, I wouldn't have an issue at all because they're not trying to take the name.


This would hold more water with me if the Beach Boys followed that model. But the touring band The Beach Boys has had dozens of people in and out through the years, and most audience members probably knew little to nothing about who was who beyond recognizing a couple of the principals. The Beach Boys have operated more like the jazz bands than they have like the Beatles or Led Zeppelin. If you can be The Beach Boys with one Beach Boy on stage, with non-Beach Boys in the band for decades, and with non-Beach Boys carrying prominent roles, then you can be the Beach Boys with one fewer.

Any damage to the legacy is already done. I'm reminded of the old quote "haggling over the price" line often attributed to Churchill and to Shaw.

As to the second paragraph I left, there is no question (for me) in it. You asked yourself a question: would you pay to see that band. You answered yourself with a no. And that's fine. I am not saying you would. But that's irrelevant to me.

I agree with you Captain.

Frankly, I think the current Mike and Bruce show is better for the legacy than some of the shows they were doing in the early 80s after Carl jumped ship, Dennis was in and out of the lineup because he couldn't keep himself clean, Brian sitting onstage doing very little most nights, and Mike, Al, and Bruce not really committing to rehearsing the material. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 23, 2018, 10:33:18 AM

Rock changed all that. For one, the core groups of players were just that - The bands were a core group of members that fans knew. Cite any example of the bands in the upper echelon and fans can name the core group. Anything less, minus the usual shifting of one or 2 members, wouldn't be the same.

Let me pose this as a question. I love the album "Time Out" by the Dave Brubeck Quartet. Would I pay to see a group calling itself "The Dave Brubeck Quartet" in 2018 playing that album live? I would not, because the key members are dead. It's as simple as that. If a group under another name were doing it, I wouldn't have an issue at all because they're not trying to take the name.


This would hold more water with me if the Beach Boys followed that model. But the touring band The Beach Boys has had dozens of people in and out through the years, and most audience members probably knew little to nothing about who was who beyond recognizing a couple of the principals. The Beach Boys have operated more like the jazz bands than they have like the Beatles or Led Zeppelin. If you can be The Beach Boys with one Beach Boy on stage, with non-Beach Boys in the band for decades, and with non-Beach Boys carrying prominent roles, then you can be the Beach Boys with one fewer.

Any damage to the legacy is already done. I'm reminded of the old quote "haggling over the price" line often attributed to Churchill and to Shaw.

As to the second paragraph I left, there is no question (for me) in it. You asked yourself a question: would you pay to see that band. You answered yourself with a no. And that's fine. I am not saying you would. But that's irrelevant to me.

Clumsy wording, my bad. Sometimes I'm better at multitasking than others.

But seriously, Captain - Are there any rock bands of note, and I don't mean C-listers like 1910 Fruitgum Company and the like, who are touring minus an original member? Genuine question, because I can't think of any.

And I guess my reasoning in asking that is how I would hate to see a group like the Beach Boys at some point becoming Foskett or whoever buys the rights going out as "The Beach Boys" with even less legitimacy minus even one guy who was actually in the band that created the legacy in the first place. It's a tribute band, not *the* band. There has to be a line drawn somewhere.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: the captain on February 23, 2018, 10:38:13 AM
No, I don't think there are any such rock bands--though to be clear and fair, I don't really follow that many older bands all that closely, so it's entirely possible that I just don't know of any. But as I know KDS and I have discussed on occasion, it's entirely possible that KISS will be the first/one such band.

And in most cases, to be clear, I'm not saying I'd prefer some kind of replacements with a licensing deal. I'm just saying they have a right to do so and in this particular case, musically, the results could well be better. Obviously the ideal situation would be a band that just breaks up and stops touring so that it never comes to that. But...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 23, 2018, 10:44:12 AM

Rock changed all that. For one, the core groups of players were just that - The bands were a core group of members that fans knew. Cite any example of the bands in the upper echelon and fans can name the core group. Anything less, minus the usual shifting of one or 2 members, wouldn't be the same.

Let me pose this as a question. I love the album "Time Out" by the Dave Brubeck Quartet. Would I pay to see a group calling itself "The Dave Brubeck Quartet" in 2018 playing that album live? I would not, because the key members are dead. It's as simple as that. If a group under another name were doing it, I wouldn't have an issue at all because they're not trying to take the name.


This would hold more water with me if the Beach Boys followed that model. But the touring band The Beach Boys has had dozens of people in and out through the years, and most audience members probably knew little to nothing about who was who beyond recognizing a couple of the principals. The Beach Boys have operated more like the jazz bands than they have like the Beatles or Led Zeppelin. If you can be The Beach Boys with one Beach Boy on stage, with non-Beach Boys in the band for decades, and with non-Beach Boys carrying prominent roles, then you can be the Beach Boys with one fewer.

Any damage to the legacy is already done. I'm reminded of the old quote "haggling over the price" line often attributed to Churchill and to Shaw.

As to the second paragraph I left, there is no question (for me) in it. You asked yourself a question: would you pay to see that band. You answered yourself with a no. And that's fine. I am not saying you would. But that's irrelevant to me.

I agree with you Captain.

Frankly, I think the current Mike and Bruce show is better for the legacy than some of the shows they were doing in the early 80s after Carl jumped ship, Dennis was in and out of the lineup because he couldn't keep himself clean, Brian sitting onstage doing very little most nights, and Mike, Al, and Bruce not really committing to rehearsing the material. 

Straight up direct question, and feel free anyone to insert this too:  :deadhorse

If the content of the shows is drawing people to them, why not just go out on tour as original members of this or any band as something like "...original members of (insert band name)" and not get tangled up in calling yourselves"The Beach Boys" or "The Rolling Stones" or whatever other name applies?

And it's not just the Beach Boys who have influenced my opinions of other classic bands who I love but whose squabbles and drama with which 2nd line member gets to book using the band name have kind of dirtied the rep a bit. Just my opinion, but there is something noble if that's the right word to a band calling it quits after it is unable to play with certain key members actually involved in the shows. And if those members left want to tour, they go out as their own name. There is something cheap to me about using a name to boost ticket sales if a majority of the members fans know aren't there. Again, not just the BB's.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 23, 2018, 10:47:17 AM
No, I don't think there are any such rock bands--though to be clear and fair, I don't really follow that many older bands all that closely, so it's entirely possible that I just don't know of any. But as I know KDS and I have discussed on occasion, it's entirely possible that KISS will be the first/one such band.

And in most cases, to be clear, I'm not saying I'd prefer some kind of replacements with a licensing deal. I'm just saying they have a right to do so and in this particular case, musically, the results could well be better. Obviously the ideal situation would be a band that just breaks up and stops touring so that it never comes to that. But...

And even with KISS, with me not even being a fan but still following the various dramas, Gene Simmons has been as divisive a figure among the diehard fans as we have seen with the BB's, and KISS is rife with feuds and squabbles and fan arguments surrounding former members who are not involved who either got the boot, or left on bad terms, and are replaced by Simmons as if they were no more vital to making the band who they were in the 70's as it would be simply giving the greasepaint and costume to a new musician to replace them, as they back Gene Simmons on his next run of shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on February 23, 2018, 10:50:55 AM
That’s why I liked it when Al was doing “The Beach Boys Friends and Family “. The name was honest


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: the captain on February 23, 2018, 10:53:13 AM
Again, just saying it could (will?) happen. Not that it would be uncontroversial. The more commercially minded entities presumably will always want to preserve their brands and generating revenue.

The fact is that all art is always a balance of art and commerce. Different people balance them differently. The ones making money are likely to see and like the opportunity to make more of it. There are innumerable opinions, but they're only that. The "right" thing to do doesn't really exist without defining a preferred end state. A band has its own right to define its own goals.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 23, 2018, 10:53:28 AM
That’s why I liked it when Al was doing “The Beach Boys Friends and Family “. The name was honest

Me too. And that honesty in Al's case got him sued by Mike for causing "confusion".  ;D


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 23, 2018, 10:56:29 AM
That’s why I liked it when Al was doing “The Beach Boys Friends and Family “. The name was honest

It was a good name, about as descriptive as a band name can possibly get. To boot, while a very minor point, the band name didn't technically have a "The" in front of it; it was "Beach Boys Family & Friends" as I recall, which I think helped in terms of the name not getting truncated to "The Beach Boys."

But the screws were put to that band from the get-go. We're lucky they got some decent touring done that one year in 1999. I managed to catch one of the few gigs they did in 2000, under the name "Al Jardine Family & Friends Beach Band."

It may well have been that the BBFF name wasn't sustainable in a world of shady promoters trying to imply an "official" Beach Boys band. But really, nobody was going to these shows and seeing the Wilson sisters, Owen Elliott, and Daryl Dragon and mistaking it for "THE" Beach Boys.

The 2000 gig I saw was one of my all-time favorites, even though it wasn't a super long show. That BBFF band was smokin' vocally, as good as any BB-related vocal unit I've seen live (even Brian's band), and they also had the great 70s backline BB band guys there as well.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 23, 2018, 10:57:54 AM
Again, just saying it could (will?) happen. Not that it would be uncontroversial. The more commercially minded entities presumably will always want to preserve their brands and generating revenue.

The fact is that all art is always a balance of art and commerce. Different people balance them differently. The ones making money are likely to see and like the opportunity to make more of it. There are innumerable opinions, but they're only that. The "right" thing to do doesn't really exist without defining a preferred end state. A band has its own right to define its own goals.

Right, and my own opinion, I think the phrase "No Wilsons, no Beach Boys" pretty much summed it up. As a comparison, sure he was essential and a terrific musician, but how many fans would buy the notion of John Paul Jones touring alone as "Led Zeppelin" without Page or Plant? It would be a laughingstock, as it would be if other bands of that stature were to have a similar scenario unfold. But again, that's all dead horse territory.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 23, 2018, 11:02:19 AM

Rock changed all that. For one, the core groups of players were just that - The bands were a core group of members that fans knew. Cite any example of the bands in the upper echelon and fans can name the core group. Anything less, minus the usual shifting of one or 2 members, wouldn't be the same.

Let me pose this as a question. I love the album "Time Out" by the Dave Brubeck Quartet. Would I pay to see a group calling itself "The Dave Brubeck Quartet" in 2018 playing that album live? I would not, because the key members are dead. It's as simple as that. If a group under another name were doing it, I wouldn't have an issue at all because they're not trying to take the name.


This would hold more water with me if the Beach Boys followed that model. But the touring band The Beach Boys has had dozens of people in and out through the years, and most audience members probably knew little to nothing about who was who beyond recognizing a couple of the principals. The Beach Boys have operated more like the jazz bands than they have like the Beatles or Led Zeppelin. If you can be The Beach Boys with one Beach Boy on stage, with non-Beach Boys in the band for decades, and with non-Beach Boys carrying prominent roles, then you can be the Beach Boys with one fewer.

Any damage to the legacy is already done. I'm reminded of the old quote "haggling over the price" line often attributed to Churchill and to Shaw.

As to the second paragraph I left, there is no question (for me) in it. You asked yourself a question: would you pay to see that band. You answered yourself with a no. And that's fine. I am not saying you would. But that's irrelevant to me.

I agree with you Captain.

Frankly, I think the current Mike and Bruce show is better for the legacy than some of the shows they were doing in the early 80s after Carl jumped ship, Dennis was in and out of the lineup because he couldn't keep himself clean, Brian sitting onstage doing very little most nights, and Mike, Al, and Bruce not really committing to rehearsing the material. 

Straight up direct question, and feel free anyone to insert this too:  :deadhorse

If the content of the shows is drawing people to them, why not just go out on tour as original members of this or any band as something like "...original members of (insert band name)" and not get tangled up in calling yourselves"The Beach Boys" or "The Rolling Stones" or whatever other name applies?

And it's not just the Beach Boys who have influenced my opinions of other classic bands who I love but whose squabbles and drama with which 2nd line member gets to book using the band name have kind of dirtied the rep a bit. Just my opinion, but there is something noble if that's the right word to a band calling it quits after it is unable to play with certain key members actually involved in the shows. And if those members left want to tour, they go out as their own name. There is something cheap to me about using a name to boost ticket sales if a majority of the members fans know aren't there. Again, not just the BB's.

Some artists do that, or amend the name of the band.  Queen + Adam Lambert, The Doors of the 21st Century, and Joey Molland's Badfinger come to mind.  

But, then you also have bands who made major personnel changes while still relevant.  Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Iron Maiden, Chicago, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, etc etc.

You could seriously write a tome about the debates of who / what makes a certain band who they are?  Are Daltrey and Townshend enough to qualify as The Who?   Should Dreja and McCarty tour as The Yardbirds?  

So, to answer your question, I think it would make more sense for fractured bands to amend their names, and I include the current Beach Boys in that.   I think it's a great concert, but more often than not, I still refer to it as "Mike and Bruce" because while it's a great live version of a great band, it's not truly The Beach Boys.   But, to some, The Beach Boys ceased to exist on Dec 28, 1983.  

But, there are also exceptions for bands like Deep Purple who have never really had a constant lineup.  In fact, their current lineup has been in place for 15 years, so they've been together longer than their original and "classic" lineups combined.  

As for big time legacy bands will all originals.   The big one is Aerosmith.  Though they don't tour as often as they once did.  There's also Poison.  Granted, not on the same level as Aerosmith, but they are pretty much the "Beatles of (So Called) Hair Metal."  

So, yeah, there really is no answer because it's different for every band.  

But the one thing I'll say is that I, personally, think it's more acceptable for bands like The Beach Boys to tour with greatly fractured lineups than to release new music.  


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: mikeddonn on February 23, 2018, 04:32:59 PM
The Beach Boys will be like a football team.  Still have the same name but different players.  Unfortunately, it has become a franchise.  Most people support the same football team they did 30 years ago, but it won't have any of the same players, for obvious reasons.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 23, 2018, 04:48:06 PM
The Beach Boys will be like a football team.  Still have the same name but different players.  Unfortunately, it has become a franchise.  Most people support the same football team they did 30 years ago, but it won't have any of the same players, for obvious reasons.

Will that happen to The Beatles, Stones, Who, Zeppelin, U2, Sex Pistols, Clash, Public Enemy, Boston, etc? Or any other truly top-tier band? Will they be like a football team?

I left out Guns N Roses because of everyone I could think of, Axl Rose will be the Mike Love of his generation in 25 years, still tourin' with a band having no original GnR members, with whatever auxiliary member he can grab to go with him. And laughing all the way to the bank as they sell 80's nostalgia kilts and Axl re-records a soundalike "Sweet Child O Mine" for his solo album due in the Fall of 2043.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on February 23, 2018, 05:54:43 PM
This logic has "Beach Boys" written all over it. This is what they are all about. They are totally a brand. They determined this from the get go. It never mattered to the majority (NOT folks like the few of us), who is up on that stage.

So, I don't think there's any question this will happen, the only uncertainty is "when?" .

The other wildcard (as morbid as it is, I've discussed it here before), who passes away first. Frankly, if anyone other than Mike passes, I don't think anything will change. If Mike were to pass before the other four, I would be well beyond intrigued as to what would happen next. Would Brian, Alan, and David become Beach Boys (with Bruce)? It's hard to imagine The Beach Boys without a "front man", at least, a Beach Boys that centralize around the early surfin'/car/girl hits.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Kid Presentable on February 24, 2018, 02:26:01 AM
The Beach Boys will be like a football team.  Still have the same name but different players.  Unfortunately, it has become a franchise.  Most people support the same football team they did 30 years ago, but it won't have any of the same players, for obvious reasons.

Will that happen to The Beatles, Stones, Who, Zeppelin, U2, Sex Pistols, Clash, Public Enemy, Boston, etc? Or any other truly top-tier band? Will they be like a football team?

I left out Guns N Roses because of everyone I could think of, Axl Rose will be the Mike Love of his generation in 25 years, still tourin' with a band having no original GnR members, with whatever auxiliary member he can grab to go with him. And laughing all the way to the bank as they sell 80's nostalgia kilts and Axl re-records a soundalike "Sweet Child O Mine" for his solo album due in the Fall of 2043.

There is a lot to criticise about Axl Rose, but in this comparison it's important to keep in mind that at the very least he has always been committed to being a progressive and creative musician above everything else.  He has just always been hard to work with and hasn't always been successful with his ideas.  I actually see him as having more in common with Dennis than with Mike in this comparison.  Axl accepts the legacy portion of his music, but in my opinion would likely not do a "rent the license and do a yearly endless tour" thing unless it also had the ability or at least the hope of creatively moving forward with something new.

I don't think the BBs will be like a football team franchise but eventually will be like an "Elvis: The Musical" thing that you can find for a few weeks every year at theaters in many major cities. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: mikeddonn on February 24, 2018, 05:23:42 AM
The Beach Boys will be like a football team.  Still have the same name but different players.  Unfortunately, it has become a franchise.  Most people support the same football team they did 30 years ago, but it won't have any of the same players, for obvious reasons.

Will that happen to The Beatles, Stones, Who, Zeppelin, U2, Sex Pistols, Clash, Public Enemy, Boston, etc? Or any other truly top-tier band? Will they be like a football team?

I'm not sure of your point regarding the bands you mention.  They obviously are not a franchise as the Beatles, for example, stopped touring in the 60s so I think it would be highly unlikely a 'Beatles' will tour in the future with different members.  The others have also had long periods of not touring and when the members die it is likely any chance of the band touring will also die with them. Unfortunately, in the eyes of the public at large the Beach Boys are not a top-tier band.  Evidenced when I go to Record Fayre's like today and see an abundance of stuff for all the above groups, but very little for Beach Boys.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on February 24, 2018, 06:28:12 AM
mikedonn is right imo.....I have used the football team analogy before often to "justify" my onging interest , beyond just Brian's work


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 24, 2018, 08:37:50 AM
This logic has "Beach Boys" written all over it. This is what they are all about. They are totally a brand. They determined this from the get go. It never mattered to the majority (NOT folks like the few of us), who is up on that stage.

So, I don't think there's any question this will happen, the only uncertainty is "when?" .

The other wildcard (as morbid as it is, I've discussed it here before), who passes away first. Frankly, if anyone other than Mike passes, I don't think anything will change. If Mike were to pass before the other four, I would be well beyond intrigued as to what would happen next. Would Brian, Alan, and David become Beach Boys (with Bruce)? It's hard to imagine The Beach Boys without a "front man", at least, a Beach Boys that centralize around the early surfin'/car/girl hits.

I believe a 'Beach Boys' without Mike, would cruise right along. If Brian, Al, Bruce and Dave were to start touring as The Beach Boys tomorrow because Mike was out of the picture, it would work for exactly the same reasons Mike and Bruce do. As mentioned, it's a brand at this point. People want to see the Beach Boys, and many of those people aren't hardcore fans, who are all absorbed in the machinations of lineups, band politics, etc. I guess to summarize, the very reason it works so well for Mike, is the very reason it would work so well without him.

As for a band without any of them present, going out under the name, that's where I would lose interest..but I could see it happening.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 24, 2018, 09:51:44 AM
This logic has "Beach Boys" written all over it. This is what they are all about. They are totally a brand. They determined this from the get go. It never mattered to the majority (NOT folks like the few of us), who is up on that stage.

So, I don't think there's any question this will happen, the only uncertainty is "when?" .

The other wildcard (as morbid as it is, I've discussed it here before), who passes away first. Frankly, if anyone other than Mike passes, I don't think anything will change. If Mike were to pass before the other four, I would be well beyond intrigued as to what would happen next. Would Brian, Alan, and David become Beach Boys (with Bruce)? It's hard to imagine The Beach Boys without a "front man", at least, a Beach Boys that centralize around the early surfin'/car/girl hits.

I believe a 'Beach Boys' without Mike, would cruise right along. If Brian, Al, Bruce and Dave were to start touring as The Beach Boys tomorrow because Mike was out of the picture, it would work for exactly the same reasons Mike and Bruce do. As mentioned, it's a brand at this point. People want to see the Beach Boys, and many of those people aren't hardcore fans, who are all absorbed in the machinations of lineups, band politics, etc. I guess to summarize, the very reason it works so well for Mike, is the very reason it would work so well without him.

As for a band without any of them present, going out under the name, that's where I would lose interest..but I could see it happening.

KISS is talking about doing that, and I could see more artists do the same. 

Rock music has been stagnant a long time, and much of the genre's touring venue is from legacy artists.  I could forsee a future of more holograms and in name only bands.   


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on February 24, 2018, 09:41:37 PM
This logic has "Beach Boys" written all over it. This is what they are all about. They are totally a brand. They determined this from the get go. It never mattered to the majority (NOT folks like the few of us), who is up on that stage.

So, I don't think there's any question this will happen, the only uncertainty is "when?" .

The other wildcard (as morbid as it is, I've discussed it here before), who passes away first. Frankly, if anyone other than Mike passes, I don't think anything will change. If Mike were to pass before the other four, I would be well beyond intrigued as to what would happen next. Would Brian, Alan, and David become Beach Boys (with Bruce)? It's hard to imagine The Beach Boys without a "front man", at least, a Beach Boys that centralize around the early surfin'/car/girl hits.

I believe a 'Beach Boys' without Mike, would cruise right along. If Brian, Al, Bruce and Dave were to start touring as The Beach Boys tomorrow because Mike was out of the picture, it would work for exactly the same reasons Mike and Bruce do. As mentioned, it's a brand at this point. People want to see the Beach Boys, and many of those people aren't hardcore fans, who are all absorbed in the machinations of lineups, band politics, etc. I guess to summarize, the very reason it works so well for Mike, is the very reason it would work so well without him.

As for a band without any of them present, going out under the name, that's where I would lose interest..but I could see it happening.

"Juice"...I have no doubt it would work. My question (if I had framed it better before) is, do we think the three Beach Boys who are currently NOT in the lineup would be interested in taking on the responsibility of the touring license if Mike were not around to do so and they all were? It would dramatically change the touring schedule for sure. I couldn't see Brian doing the number of shows or the lower-end venues that Mike has no shame in picking up along with the theatres and nicer joints.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Gabo on February 24, 2018, 09:48:53 PM
This logic has "Beach Boys" written all over it. This is what they are all about. They are totally a brand. They determined this from the get go. It never mattered to the majority (NOT folks like the few of us), who is up on that stage.

So, I don't think there's any question this will happen, the only uncertainty is "when?" .

The other wildcard (as morbid as it is, I've discussed it here before), who passes away first. Frankly, if anyone other than Mike passes, I don't think anything will change. If Mike were to pass before the other four, I would be well beyond intrigued as to what would happen next. Would Brian, Alan, and David become Beach Boys (with Bruce)? It's hard to imagine The Beach Boys without a "front man", at least, a Beach Boys that centralize around the early surfin'/car/girl hits.
As for a band without any of them present, going out under the name, that's where I would lose interest..but I could see it happening.

Agreed, but, still, who could fill Bruce's shoes onstage?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 25, 2018, 12:32:19 AM
This logic has "Beach Boys" written all over it. This is what they are all about. They are totally a brand. They determined this from the get go. It never mattered to the majority (NOT folks like the few of us), who is up on that stage.

So, I don't think there's any question this will happen, the only uncertainty is "when?" .

The other wildcard (as morbid as it is, I've discussed it here before), who passes away first. Frankly, if anyone other than Mike passes, I don't think anything will change. If Mike were to pass before the other four, I would be well beyond intrigued as to what would happen next. Would Brian, Alan, and David become Beach Boys (with Bruce)? It's hard to imagine The Beach Boys without a "front man", at least, a Beach Boys that centralize around the early surfin'/car/girl hits.

I believe a 'Beach Boys' without Mike, would cruise right along. If Brian, Al, Bruce and Dave were to start touring as The Beach Boys tomorrow because Mike was out of the picture, it would work for exactly the same reasons Mike and Bruce do. As mentioned, it's a brand at this point. People want to see the Beach Boys, and many of those people aren't hardcore fans, who are all absorbed in the machinations of lineups, band politics, etc. I guess to summarize, the very reason it works so well for Mike, is the very reason it would work so well without him.

As for a band without any of them present, going out under the name, that's where I would lose interest..but I could see it happening.

"Juice"...I have no doubt it would work. My question (if I had framed it better before) is, do we think the three Beach Boys who are currently NOT in the lineup would be interested in taking on the responsibility of the touring license if Mike were not around to do so and they all were? It would dramatically change the touring schedule for sure. I couldn't see Brian doing the number of shows or the lower-end venues that Mike has no shame in picking up along with the theatres and nicer joints.

I would be surprised if that happened.   Brian's camp has spent the better part of the last two decades building the Brian Wilson brand.  I would think they would keep touring as Brian Wilson.   


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on February 25, 2018, 06:32:20 AM
I don't think Brian would go for it at all. And I would fully expect the Lovester to have a "Beach Boys'' Band ot on the road in name only when he decides to cal it quits, as long as shows can be booked and money is to be made.....no matter how he cheapens the name. It's all about the dollar to Mikey, he could care less if there are a bunch on young guys who perform under the guise of the Beach Boys.....as long as he can sell it and make $.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 26, 2018, 07:32:38 AM
Clearly Brian has little or no interest in touring as "The Beach Boys."

But I don't think it makes sense to assume that if we're trying to look at such a hypothetical, that it would require Brian to tour with the name in the precise same mode that Mike does. So questions of "Could Brian do as many shows?" or "Would Brian book low-end venues?", etc. aren't really applicable.

Brian (and Al or whomever would be involved) could do 50 shows per year, or 75, or 100. They could forego whatever venues/cities they didn't want to do.

For better or worse, considering the statistically small amount of time that would likely pass between the death or major infirmity of, say, Mike, and the continued to desire to extensively tour by, say Brian (or vice versa for that matter), the more likely scenario worth pondering is what happens when *all* of the members are unable or unwilling to tour. Then what happens? Would the estates (and/or surviving members if applicable) vote for and form a licensed touring band? I'm pretty convinced this is the sort of thing that someone like Foskett would and could be angling at in the long run.

I'd rather see something more along the lines of a "Beach Boys Family & Friends" or "California Saga" sort of thing involving Matt Jardine, perhaps Billy Hinsche (though he's not like extensively younger than the actual BBs I guess), and some other family members. I wouldn't be interested in kind of just seeing a Mike/Bruce type band but without Mike and Bruce, with just Mike's backing guys like Foskett and Totten fronting a band.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 26, 2018, 07:38:08 AM
Clearly Brian has little or no interest in touring as "The Beach Boys."

But I don't think it makes sense to assume that if we're trying to look at such a hypothetical, that it would require Brian to tour with the name in the precise same mode that Mike does. So questions of "Could Brian do as many shows?" or "Would Brian book low-end venues?", etc. aren't really applicable.

Brian (and Al or whomever would be involved) could do 50 shows per year, or 75, or 100. They could forego whatever venues/cities they didn't want to do.

For better or worse, considering the statistically small amount of time that would likely pass between the death or major infirmity of, say, Mike, and the continued to desire to extensively tour by, say Brian (or vice versa for that matter), the more likely scenario worth pondering is what happens when *all* of the members are unable or unwilling to tour. Then what happens? Would the estates (and/or surviving members if applicable) vote for and form a licensed touring band? I'm pretty convinced this is the sort of thing that someone like Foskett would and could be angling at in the long run.

I'd rather see something more along the lines of a "Beach Boys Family & Friends" or "California Saga" sort of thing involving Matt Jardine, perhaps Billy Hinsche (though he's not like extensively younger than the actual BBs I guess), and some other family members. I wouldn't be interested in kind of just seeing a Mike/Bruce type band but without Mike and Bruce, with just Mike's backing guys like Foskett and Totten fronting a band.

Plus, if Brian's band did elect to tour as The Beach Boys, there are a lot of songs that they don't play that they would suddenly be obligated to include - Surfin Sufari, Be True to Your School, Catch a Wave, and......wait for it.....Kokomo. 

Have you read or heard any interviews where Jeff Foskett expressed interview in touring as The Beach Boys after Mike retires? 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 26, 2018, 08:15:02 AM
This logic has "Beach Boys" written all over it. This is what they are all about. They are totally a brand. They determined this from the get go. It never mattered to the majority (NOT folks like the few of us), who is up on that stage.

So, I don't think there's any question this will happen, the only uncertainty is "when?" .

The other wildcard (as morbid as it is, I've discussed it here before), who passes away first. Frankly, if anyone other than Mike passes, I don't think anything will change. If Mike were to pass before the other four, I would be well beyond intrigued as to what would happen next. Would Brian, Alan, and David become Beach Boys (with Bruce)? It's hard to imagine The Beach Boys without a "front man", at least, a Beach Boys that centralize around the early surfin'/car/girl hits.

I believe a 'Beach Boys' without Mike, would cruise right along. If Brian, Al, Bruce and Dave were to start touring as The Beach Boys tomorrow because Mike was out of the picture, it would work for exactly the same reasons Mike and Bruce do. As mentioned, it's a brand at this point. People want to see the Beach Boys, and many of those people aren't hardcore fans, who are all absorbed in the machinations of lineups, band politics, etc. I guess to summarize, the very reason it works so well for Mike, is the very reason it would work so well without him.

As for a band without any of them present, going out under the name, that's where I would lose interest..but I could see it happening.

"Juice"...I have no doubt it would work. My question (if I had framed it better before) is, do we think the three Beach Boys who are currently NOT in the lineup would be interested in taking on the responsibility of the touring license if Mike were not around to do so and they all were? It would dramatically change the touring schedule for sure. I couldn't see Brian doing the number of shows or the lower-end venues that Mike has no shame in picking up along with the theatres and nicer joints.

Point taken, I agree. I guess I was just framing it from the audience side of the equation. If those guys were out on the road as The Beach Boys, I don't think it would impact attendance negatively.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 26, 2018, 09:25:35 AM
Clearly Brian has little or no interest in touring as "The Beach Boys."

But I don't think it makes sense to assume that if we're trying to look at such a hypothetical, that it would require Brian to tour with the name in the precise same mode that Mike does. So questions of "Could Brian do as many shows?" or "Would Brian book low-end venues?", etc. aren't really applicable.

Brian (and Al or whomever would be involved) could do 50 shows per year, or 75, or 100. They could forego whatever venues/cities they didn't want to do.

For better or worse, considering the statistically small amount of time that would likely pass between the death or major infirmity of, say, Mike, and the continued to desire to extensively tour by, say Brian (or vice versa for that matter), the more likely scenario worth pondering is what happens when *all* of the members are unable or unwilling to tour. Then what happens? Would the estates (and/or surviving members if applicable) vote for and form a licensed touring band? I'm pretty convinced this is the sort of thing that someone like Foskett would and could be angling at in the long run.

I'd rather see something more along the lines of a "Beach Boys Family & Friends" or "California Saga" sort of thing involving Matt Jardine, perhaps Billy Hinsche (though he's not like extensively younger than the actual BBs I guess), and some other family members. I wouldn't be interested in kind of just seeing a Mike/Bruce type band but without Mike and Bruce, with just Mike's backing guys like Foskett and Totten fronting a band.

Plus, if Brian's band did elect to tour as The Beach Boys, there are a lot of songs that they don't play that they would suddenly be obligated to include - Surfin Sufari, Be True to Your School, Catch a Wave, and......wait for it.....Kokomo. 

Have you read or heard any interviews where Jeff Foskett expressed interview in touring as The Beach Boys after Mike retires? 

As we've discussed before concerning setlist requirements, I tend to doubt there are any specific song requirements. If Brian somehow ended up touring as "The Beach Boys", there wouldn't be any problem omitting some or all of those songs. Maybe he'd toss "Kokomo" to Matt to sing or something, maybe not.

Foskett almost never gives interviews, so I have not heard or read him directly saying anything concerning wanting to take over the license one day. Call it a well-informed hunch springing from more than simply a gut feeling.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 26, 2018, 09:32:08 AM
There were years during the BBs touring career where certain hits were eschewed and they did just fine. That's not to say anyone using the BB name could survive long doing nothing but Bread and Air Supply covers, but they'd be fine skipping some hits as long as they did some.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 26, 2018, 09:35:00 AM
Clearly Brian has little or no interest in touring as "The Beach Boys."

But I don't think it makes sense to assume that if we're trying to look at such a hypothetical, that it would require Brian to tour with the name in the precise same mode that Mike does. So questions of "Could Brian do as many shows?" or "Would Brian book low-end venues?", etc. aren't really applicable.

Brian (and Al or whomever would be involved) could do 50 shows per year, or 75, or 100. They could forego whatever venues/cities they didn't want to do.

For better or worse, considering the statistically small amount of time that would likely pass between the death or major infirmity of, say, Mike, and the continued to desire to extensively tour by, say Brian (or vice versa for that matter), the more likely scenario worth pondering is what happens when *all* of the members are unable or unwilling to tour. Then what happens? Would the estates (and/or surviving members if applicable) vote for and form a licensed touring band? I'm pretty convinced this is the sort of thing that someone like Foskett would and could be angling at in the long run.

I'd rather see something more along the lines of a "Beach Boys Family & Friends" or "California Saga" sort of thing involving Matt Jardine, perhaps Billy Hinsche (though he's not like extensively younger than the actual BBs I guess), and some other family members. I wouldn't be interested in kind of just seeing a Mike/Bruce type band but without Mike and Bruce, with just Mike's backing guys like Foskett and Totten fronting a band.

Plus, if Brian's band did elect to tour as The Beach Boys, there are a lot of songs that they don't play that they would suddenly be obligated to include - Surfin Sufari, Be True to Your School, Catch a Wave, and......wait for it.....Kokomo. 

Have you read or heard any interviews where Jeff Foskett expressed interview in touring as The Beach Boys after Mike retires? 

As we've discussed before concerning setlist requirements, I tend to doubt there are any specific song requirements. If Brian somehow ended up touring as "The Beach Boys", there wouldn't be any problem omitting some or all of those songs. Maybe he'd toss "Kokomo" to Matt to sing or something, maybe not.

Foskett almost never gives interviews, so I have not heard or read him directly saying anything concerning wanting to take over the license one day. Call it a well-informed hunch springing from more than simply a gut feeling.

I didn't say requirements, I said obligations.   Just as Chicago are obligated to play Saturday in the Park or Journey are obligated to play Don't Stop Believin.  Do they have to?  No. Iron Maiden regularly leaves Run to the Hills off their setlists.  But, touring under the BB banner, regardless of who the personnel is, sets a certain expectation. 



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 26, 2018, 09:39:35 AM
Clearly Brian has little or no interest in touring as "The Beach Boys."

But I don't think it makes sense to assume that if we're trying to look at such a hypothetical, that it would require Brian to tour with the name in the precise same mode that Mike does. So questions of "Could Brian do as many shows?" or "Would Brian book low-end venues?", etc. aren't really applicable.

Brian (and Al or whomever would be involved) could do 50 shows per year, or 75, or 100. They could forego whatever venues/cities they didn't want to do.

For better or worse, considering the statistically small amount of time that would likely pass between the death or major infirmity of, say, Mike, and the continued to desire to extensively tour by, say Brian (or vice versa for that matter), the more likely scenario worth pondering is what happens when *all* of the members are unable or unwilling to tour. Then what happens? Would the estates (and/or surviving members if applicable) vote for and form a licensed touring band? I'm pretty convinced this is the sort of thing that someone like Foskett would and could be angling at in the long run.

I'd rather see something more along the lines of a "Beach Boys Family & Friends" or "California Saga" sort of thing involving Matt Jardine, perhaps Billy Hinsche (though he's not like extensively younger than the actual BBs I guess), and some other family members. I wouldn't be interested in kind of just seeing a Mike/Bruce type band but without Mike and Bruce, with just Mike's backing guys like Foskett and Totten fronting a band.

Plus, if Brian's band did elect to tour as The Beach Boys, there are a lot of songs that they don't play that they would suddenly be obligated to include - Surfin Sufari, Be True to Your School, Catch a Wave, and......wait for it.....Kokomo.  

Have you read or heard any interviews where Jeff Foskett expressed interview in touring as The Beach Boys after Mike retires?  

As we've discussed before concerning setlist requirements, I tend to doubt there are any specific song requirements. If Brian somehow ended up touring as "The Beach Boys", there wouldn't be any problem omitting some or all of those songs. Maybe he'd toss "Kokomo" to Matt to sing or something, maybe not.

Foskett almost never gives interviews, so I have not heard or read him directly saying anything concerning wanting to take over the license one day. Call it a well-informed hunch springing from more than simply a gut feeling.

I didn't say requirements, I said obligations.   Just as Chicago are obligated to play Saturday in the Park or Journey are obligated to play Don't Stop Believin.  Do they have to?  No. Iron Maiden regularly leaves Run to the Hills off their setlists.  But, touring under the BB banner, regardless of who the personnel is, sets a certain expectation.  



Except an "obligation" outside of anything contractual is totally speculative and subjective. I would use the word "expectation" more than "obligation", and even then it would be a pretty murky area.

Would a BB tour survive without performing "Kokomo?" Yes. Would a BB tour survive by simply replicating a typical recent "Brian Wilson" setlist? I think so.

Would the tour survive by playing nothing but "MIU" and "So Tough" tracks? Probably not.

It's hard to find a good parallel for the touring BB situation, but we could look at something like the current incarnation of Styx, who leave out at least *some* of the well-known DeYoung hits.

Leaving out hits that are linked to an inactive member of a band is a harder proposition when the band only has a hand full of truly *well-known* hits. Supertramp, when Roger Hodgson left, tried to "divide" up the respective songs with Hodgson taking his tunes and the other guy taking his and continuing on under the Supertramp name. This didn't work, as Hodgson's hits were the most well-known ("Logical Song", "Give a Little Bit", "Take the Long Way Home"). They eventually just gave in and started doing the Hodgson songs (much to Hodgson's chagrin; I can't recall but there may have even been actual agreement in place barring that from happening at some point).

The difference with the BBs is that they have DOZENS of well-known songs, both hit singles and other well-known oldies and past radio staples.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 26, 2018, 09:50:35 AM
Clearly Brian has little or no interest in touring as "The Beach Boys."

But I don't think it makes sense to assume that if we're trying to look at such a hypothetical, that it would require Brian to tour with the name in the precise same mode that Mike does. So questions of "Could Brian do as many shows?" or "Would Brian book low-end venues?", etc. aren't really applicable.

Brian (and Al or whomever would be involved) could do 50 shows per year, or 75, or 100. They could forego whatever venues/cities they didn't want to do.

For better or worse, considering the statistically small amount of time that would likely pass between the death or major infirmity of, say, Mike, and the continued to desire to extensively tour by, say Brian (or vice versa for that matter), the more likely scenario worth pondering is what happens when *all* of the members are unable or unwilling to tour. Then what happens? Would the estates (and/or surviving members if applicable) vote for and form a licensed touring band? I'm pretty convinced this is the sort of thing that someone like Foskett would and could be angling at in the long run.

I'd rather see something more along the lines of a "Beach Boys Family & Friends" or "California Saga" sort of thing involving Matt Jardine, perhaps Billy Hinsche (though he's not like extensively younger than the actual BBs I guess), and some other family members. I wouldn't be interested in kind of just seeing a Mike/Bruce type band but without Mike and Bruce, with just Mike's backing guys like Foskett and Totten fronting a band.

Plus, if Brian's band did elect to tour as The Beach Boys, there are a lot of songs that they don't play that they would suddenly be obligated to include - Surfin Sufari, Be True to Your School, Catch a Wave, and......wait for it.....Kokomo.  

Have you read or heard any interviews where Jeff Foskett expressed interview in touring as The Beach Boys after Mike retires?  

As we've discussed before concerning setlist requirements, I tend to doubt there are any specific song requirements. If Brian somehow ended up touring as "The Beach Boys", there wouldn't be any problem omitting some or all of those songs. Maybe he'd toss "Kokomo" to Matt to sing or something, maybe not.

Foskett almost never gives interviews, so I have not heard or read him directly saying anything concerning wanting to take over the license one day. Call it a well-informed hunch springing from more than simply a gut feeling.

I didn't say requirements, I said obligations.   Just as Chicago are obligated to play Saturday in the Park or Journey are obligated to play Don't Stop Believin.  Do they have to?  No. Iron Maiden regularly leaves Run to the Hills off their setlists.  But, touring under the BB banner, regardless of who the personnel is, sets a certain expectation.  



Except an "obligation" outside of anything contractual is totally speculative and subjective. I would use the word "expectation" more than "obligation", and even then it would be a pretty murky area.

Would a BB tour survive without performing "Kokomo?" Yes. Would a BB tour survive by simply replicating a typical recent "Brian Wilson" setlist? I think so.

Would the tour survive by playing nothing but "MIU" and "So Tough" tracks? Probably not.

It's hard to find a good parallel for the touring BB situation, but we could look at something like the current incarnation of Styx, who leave out at least *some* of the well-known DeYoung hits.

Leaving out hits that are linked to an inactive member of a band is a harder proposition when the band only has a hand full of truly *well-known* hits. Supertramp, when Roger Hodgson left, tried to "divide" up the respective songs with Hodgson taking his tunes and the other guy taking his and continuing on under the Supertramp name. This didn't work, as Hodgson's hits were the most well-known ("Logical Song", "Give a Little Bit", "Take the Long Way Home"). They eventually just gave in and started doing the Hodgson songs (much to Hodgson's chagrin; I can't recall but there may have even been actual agreement in place barring that from happening at some point).

The difference with the BBs is that they have DOZENS of well-known songs, but hit singles and other well-known oldies and past radio staples.

It's really all a moot point anyway, as I think Brian's band touring as The Beach Boys is about as likely as my winning the Powerball. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 26, 2018, 09:53:54 AM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 26, 2018, 10:14:17 AM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

If it happened, I'd be frankly shocked.  Only because Brian and his band have worked for the better part of two decades to establish the Brian Wilson Brand.   The success of the BW brand can definitely be debated, and there's no doubt touring under The Beach Boys label would allow Brian and his band to play bigger venues.   


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: oldsurferdude on February 26, 2018, 10:35:28 AM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

One could only hope that it's sooner than later.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 26, 2018, 10:38:50 AM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

One could only hope that it's sooner than later.

...for Mike to run into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse)?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: B.E. on February 26, 2018, 11:00:54 AM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

One could only hope that it's sooner than later.

...for Mike to run into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse)?

If this isn't against the rules, it should be.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The Lovester on February 26, 2018, 11:46:06 AM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

One could only hope that it's sooner than later.
Classy.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on February 26, 2018, 01:23:01 PM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

One could only hope that it's sooner than later.

........... wow. Not even surprised that was said that’s pathetic in its self


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: David1964 on February 26, 2018, 01:36:29 PM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

One could only hope that it's sooner than later.
I've read some pretty classless things on this board over the years and this ranks right near the top. Disliking someone is one thing, but hoping for illness or worse is just sick.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on February 26, 2018, 08:06:32 PM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

One could only hope that it's sooner than later.

Can you please clarify what  you meant by this?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zargo on February 26, 2018, 10:10:55 PM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

It might become "Brian Wilson's Beach Boys" ala "Jeff Lynne's E.L.O"


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on February 27, 2018, 12:19:17 AM
Personally, it still wouldn’t be The Beach Boys. I’m almost the very definition of a Brianista but it wouldn’t be The Beach Boys without Mike either


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on February 27, 2018, 12:35:07 AM

That window is probably only another few years.


God....How long have we been saying that?  ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 27, 2018, 06:18:03 AM

That window is probably only another few years.


God....How long have we been saying that?  ::)

True, they most certainly have more longevity than most of us assumed. But the clock is still ticking. I don't think they'll all be touring 100 shows per year in their 90s.

If anything, their longevity makes it, in retrospect, even sadder than all but six months or so during 2012 out of the past 20 years have been wasted being apart from each other. *Especially* post-2012.

It's not blasphemous to point out that, barring Al Jardine who still sounds the same, none of the other guys sound as good or better in 2017/18 than they did in 2012.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 27, 2018, 06:22:04 AM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

It might become "Brian Wilson's Beach Boys" ala "Jeff Lynne's E.L.O"

The weird thing about Jeff Lynne with ELO is that usually when someone sticks their name in front of the band, it's because they don't have the full rights to the name and/or have been forced by contractual agreement (or court order!) to use such an amended name. But in the case of Lynne and ELO, he owns the name. He doesn't have to put "Jeff Lynne" in front of it, but for some reason (probably a mixture of finally highlighting his name more, and also to differentiate his band from the various off-shoot/knock-off bands like "ELO Part II" and "The Orchestra") has chosen to use the "Jeff Lynne's ELO" moniker which actually kind of makes it sound *less* legit.

I've wondered in past years if having Mike tour as something like "Mike Love's Beach Boys" may have been a decent compromise with the license/name situation. But I think once the name is being used like that, not much brand name reputation is being saved by making him put his name in front of the band name as a qualifier.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on February 27, 2018, 06:38:45 AM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

One could only hope that it's sooner than later.

Can you please clarify what  you meant by this?

I, and many others still faithfully hold out for Brian to take back the BB name although *Brian Wilson* eliminates any confusion as to who will be performing or recording. I still think of Brian as a Beach Boy however.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on February 27, 2018, 10:10:54 AM
Works for me


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on March 01, 2018, 07:00:07 PM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

It might become "Brian Wilson's Beach Boys" ala "Jeff Lynne's E.L.O"

The weird thing about Jeff Lynne with ELO is that usually when someone sticks their name in front of the band, it's because they don't have the full rights to the name and/or have been forced by contractual agreement (or court order!) to use such an amended name. But in the case of Lynne and ELO, he owns the name. He doesn't have to put "Jeff Lynne" in front of it, but for some reason (probably a mixture of finally highlighting his name more, and also to differentiate his band from the various off-shoot/knock-off bands like "ELO Part II" and "The Orchestra") has chosen to use the "Jeff Lynne's ELO" moniker which actually kind of makes it sound *less* legit.

I've wondered in past years if having Mike tour as something like "Mike Love's Beach Boys" may have been a decent compromise with the license/name situation. But I think once the name is being used like that, not much brand name reputation is being saved by making him put his name in front of the band name as a qualifier.

Of course Alan has sounded the same since 1983


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Dave in KC on March 02, 2018, 06:07:45 PM
His album is a true masterpiece in my domain.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: DC310 on March 04, 2018, 11:42:10 AM
I saw the band last night in Thousand Oaks, CA.  Quick background on me: Never saw the BBs in their heyday live, but have seen all different touring versions of BBs, BW and Al's bands since the late '80s.  Up until 2016, I could take or leave Mike's band.  I was happy that he continued to tour and bring the music to so many fans, but (especially compared to Brian's band) I thought the concerts themselves were quite forgettable.  I would still see them when I could (for me hearing this music live performed by ANYONE is a treat), but never left eager to see them again.  That all changed in 2016 when I saw Mike and his band at this same venue in Thousand Oaks.  The band was tight, the harmonies were killer, the setlist had some unexpected deep cuts and the vibe was excellent.  It felt like Mike and Co. had upped their game.  Still a very different concert experience than seeing Brian and his band, but awesome in its own way.  Seeing Jeff taking some great leads, along with Scott and Brian E to me felt like the spirit of what the Beach Boys music is and can be moving forward. I was unable to make their show last year at same venue, but was thrilled to see them again last night.  It was, however, quite a letdown.

Highlights-
Christian Love performed the whole set with the band and sounded fantastic on God Only Knows and Good Vibrations.  I wish he would've sung more leads.
Bruce's falsetto at the end of Fun Fun Fun was quite impressive and he wasn't doubled by anyone else.  He also had a couple of other great stand out falsetto vocal moments.
Scott sounded lovely on Betsy, and his lead playing is top notch.
Jeff sounded great on Darlin'.

Lowlights-
Backing vocals- I'm not sure what is going on, but Jeff selectively sings falsetto now.  Sometimes someone else is on top of the stack, but other times it's just empty (or the sound mixer is asleep at the wheel, which is quite possible based on how terrible the mix was last night).  When Jeff did sing falsetto, it sounded pretty weak (though he sounded great full voice on Darlin').  A friend saw them in October last year and Jeff didn't sing at all, so I wonder if he is having voice issues.
Mike's schtick- which had toned way down the last time I saw them-- last night felt like we were back to the circus with all the dumb tired jokes and banter
Hearing so many songs from Mike's album- they are just terrible.
Stamos- He played most of show with them.  I don't mind him on 4th guitar, but when he drums instead of Cowsill, everything falls flat.  He has no sense of meter and is more concerned about twirling a drum stick in between tom hits than keeping solid time. 
Do It Again- I already mentioned Mike's album cuts, but this gets its own mention. Just...no.  Please.  Play the real version.  No one in the crowd knows or cares who Mark McGrath is.  Some people around me were quite confused.
No Brian E- Nothing against Randall who is great, but Brian's vocals on I Can Hear Music and Then I Kissed Her in 2016 elevated the whole show.  His absence is felt, even though during his entire run with band, his vocals were criminally underutilized.
The theremin substitute sounds on Good Vibrations-  Horrendous.  Sounded like a child's toy.  Clearly a choice to make it sound like this instead of what I've heard previously.  Inexplicable.  I hope someone posts a video online.
THE SOUND MIX- was the worst I've heard at a BB related show.  Ever. 
The videos played during about half the songs are of teenagers in bikinis, with no sense of irony.  It's pretty icky.



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocker on March 04, 2018, 12:07:20 PM
I saw the band last night in Thousand Oaks, CA.  Quick background on me: Never saw the BBs in their heyday live, but have seen all different touring versions of BBs, BW and Al's bands since the late '80s.  Up until 2016, I could take or leave Mike's band.  I was happy that he continued to tour and bring the music to so many fans, but (especially compared to Brian's band) I thought the concerts themselves were quite forgettable.  I would still see them when I could (for me hearing this music live performed by ANYONE is a treat), but never left eager to see them again.  That all changed in 2016 when I saw Mike and his band at this same venue in Thousand Oaks.  The band was tight, the harmonies were killer, the setlist had some unexpected deep cuts and the vibe was excellent.  It felt like Mike and Co. had upped their game.  Still a very different concert experience than seeing Brian and his band, but awesome in its own way.  Seeing Jeff taking some great leads, along with Scott and Brian E to me felt like the spirit of what the Beach Boys music is and can be moving forward. I was unable to make their show last year at same venue, but was thrilled to see them again last night.  It was, however, quite a letdown.

Highlights-
Christian Love performed the whole set with the band and sounded fantastic on God Only Knows and Good Vibrations.  I wish he would've sung more leads.
Bruce's falsetto at the end of Fun Fun Fun was quite impressive and he wasn't doubled by anyone else.  He also had a couple of other great stand out falsetto vocal moments.
Scott sounded lovely on Betsy, and his lead playing is top notch.
Jeff sounded great on Darlin'.

Lowlights-
Backing vocals- I'm not sure what is going on, but Jeff selectively sings falsetto now.  Sometimes someone else is on top of the stack, but other times it's just empty (or the sound mixer is asleep at the wheel, which is quite possible based on how terrible the mix was last night).  When Jeff did sing falsetto, it sounded pretty weak (though he sounded great full voice on Darlin').  A friend saw them in October last year and Jeff didn't sing at all, so I wonder if he is having voice issues.
Mike's schtick- which had toned way down the last time I saw them-- last night felt like we were back to the circus with all the dumb tired jokes and banter
Hearing so many songs from Mike's album- they are just terrible.
Stamos- He played most of show with them.  I don't mind him on 4th guitar, but when he drums instead of Cowsill, everything falls flat.  He has no sense of meter and is more concerned about twirling a drum stick in between tom hits than keeping solid time. 
Do It Again- I already mentioned Mike's album cuts, but this gets its own mention. Just...no.  Please.  Play the real version.  No one in the crowd knows or cares who Mark McGrath is.  Some people around me were quite confused.
No Brian E- Nothing against Randall who is great, but Brian's vocals on I Can Hear Music and Then I Kissed Her in 2016 elevated the whole show.  His absence is felt, even though during his entire run with band, his vocals were criminally underutilized.
The theremin substitute sounds on Good Vibrations-  Horrendous.  Sounded like a child's toy.  Clearly a choice to make it sound like this instead of what I've heard previously.  Inexplicable.  I hope someone posts a video online.
THE SOUND MIX- was the worst I've heard at a BB related show.  Ever. 
The videos played during about half the songs are of teenagers in bikinis, with no sense of irony.  It's pretty icky.




Thanks for your review!

Here's "Fun, fun, fun":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ8VkyO-q2Q


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: All Summer Long on March 04, 2018, 05:18:00 PM
I saw the band last night in Thousand Oaks, CA.  Quick background on me: Never saw the BBs in their heyday live, but have seen all different touring versions of BBs, BW and Al's bands since the late '80s.  Up until 2016, I could take or leave Mike's band.  I was happy that he continued to tour and bring the music to so many fans, but (especially compared to Brian's band) I thought the concerts themselves were quite forgettable.  I would still see them when I could (for me hearing this music live performed by ANYONE is a treat), but never left eager to see them again.  That all changed in 2016 when I saw Mike and his band at this same venue in Thousand Oaks.  The band was tight, the harmonies were killer, the setlist had some unexpected deep cuts and the vibe was excellent.  It felt like Mike and Co. had upped their game.  Still a very different concert experience than seeing Brian and his band, but awesome in its own way.  Seeing Jeff taking some great leads, along with Scott and Brian E to me felt like the spirit of what the Beach Boys music is and can be moving forward. I was unable to make their show last year at same venue, but was thrilled to see them again last night.  It was, however, quite a letdown.

Highlights-
Christian Love performed the whole set with the band and sounded fantastic on God Only Knows and Good Vibrations.  I wish he would've sung more leads.
Bruce's falsetto at the end of Fun Fun Fun was quite impressive and he wasn't doubled by anyone else.  He also had a couple of other great stand out falsetto vocal moments.
Scott sounded lovely on Betsy, and his lead playing is top notch.
Jeff sounded great on Darlin'.

Lowlights-
Backing vocals- I'm not sure what is going on, but Jeff selectively sings falsetto now.  Sometimes someone else is on top of the stack, but other times it's just empty (or the sound mixer is asleep at the wheel, which is quite possible based on how terrible the mix was last night).  When Jeff did sing falsetto, it sounded pretty weak (though he sounded great full voice on Darlin').  A friend saw them in October last year and Jeff didn't sing at all, so I wonder if he is having voice issues.
Mike's schtick- which had toned way down the last time I saw them-- last night felt like we were back to the circus with all the dumb tired jokes and banter
Hearing so many songs from Mike's album- they are just terrible.
Stamos- He played most of show with them.  I don't mind him on 4th guitar, but when he drums instead of Cowsill, everything falls flat.  He has no sense of meter and is more concerned about twirling a drum stick in between tom hits than keeping solid time. 
Do It Again- I already mentioned Mike's album cuts, but this gets its own mention. Just...no.  Please.  Play the real version.  No one in the crowd knows or cares who Mark McGrath is.  Some people around me were quite confused.
No Brian E- Nothing against Randall who is great, but Brian's vocals on I Can Hear Music and Then I Kissed Her in 2016 elevated the whole show.  His absence is felt, even though during his entire run with band, his vocals were criminally underutilized.
The theremin substitute sounds on Good Vibrations-  Horrendous.  Sounded like a child's toy.  Clearly a choice to make it sound like this instead of what I've heard previously.  Inexplicable.  I hope someone posts a video online.
THE SOUND MIX- was the worst I've heard at a BB related show.  Ever. 
The videos played during about half the songs are of teenagers in bikinis, with no sense of irony.  It's pretty icky.



DC310, did Mike say if Randall and Christian are back in the touring band for good?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on March 04, 2018, 06:49:04 PM
 myKe luHv and the Impersonators.  ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on March 05, 2018, 03:42:41 AM
The  Fun Fun Fun video posted  above didn't really sound great. And is there anyone more annoying on stage these days at a Beach Boys concert than John Stamos?  Not only does he play an inaudible,likely unplugged guitar merely for affect, but his constant running around the stage from spot to spot is ludicrous. This guy so wants to be a rock and roll star. John, please give it a rest and stick to acting....you take so much more than you give to these shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on March 05, 2018, 06:35:24 AM
I saw the band last night in Thousand Oaks, CA.  Quick background on me: Never saw the BBs in their heyday live, but have seen all different touring versions of BBs, BW and Al's bands since the late '80s.  Up until 2016, I could take or leave Mike's band.  I was happy that he continued to tour and bring the music to so many fans, but (especially compared to Brian's band) I thought the concerts themselves were quite forgettable.  I would still see them when I could (for me hearing this music live performed by ANYONE is a treat), but never left eager to see them again.  That all changed in 2016 when I saw Mike and his band at this same venue in Thousand Oaks.  The band was tight, the harmonies were killer, the setlist had some unexpected deep cuts and the vibe was excellent.  It felt like Mike and Co. had upped their game.  Still a very different concert experience than seeing Brian and his band, but awesome in its own way.  Seeing Jeff taking some great leads, along with Scott and Brian E to me felt like the spirit of what the Beach Boys music is and can be moving forward. I was unable to make their show last year at same venue, but was thrilled to see them again last night.  It was, however, quite a letdown.

Highlights-
Christian Love performed the whole set with the band and sounded fantastic on God Only Knows and Good Vibrations.  I wish he would've sung more leads.
Bruce's falsetto at the end of Fun Fun Fun was quite impressive and he wasn't doubled by anyone else.  He also had a couple of other great stand out falsetto vocal moments.
Scott sounded lovely on Betsy, and his lead playing is top notch.
Jeff sounded great on Darlin'.

Lowlights-
Backing vocals- I'm not sure what is going on, but Jeff selectively sings falsetto now.  Sometimes someone else is on top of the stack, but other times it's just empty (or the sound mixer is asleep at the wheel, which is quite possible based on how terrible the mix was last night).  When Jeff did sing falsetto, it sounded pretty weak (though he sounded great full voice on Darlin').  A friend saw them in October last year and Jeff didn't sing at all, so I wonder if he is having voice issues.
Mike's schtick- which had toned way down the last time I saw them-- last night felt like we were back to the circus with all the dumb tired jokes and banter
Hearing so many songs from Mike's album- they are just terrible.
Stamos- He played most of show with them.  I don't mind him on 4th guitar, but when he drums instead of Cowsill, everything falls flat.  He has no sense of meter and is more concerned about twirling a drum stick in between tom hits than keeping solid time. 
Do It Again- I already mentioned Mike's album cuts, but this gets its own mention. Just...no.  Please.  Play the real version.  No one in the crowd knows or cares who Mark McGrath is.  Some people around me were quite confused.
No Brian E- Nothing against Randall who is great, but Brian's vocals on I Can Hear Music and Then I Kissed Her in 2016 elevated the whole show.  His absence is felt, even though during his entire run with band, his vocals were criminally underutilized.
The theremin substitute sounds on Good Vibrations-  Horrendous.  Sounded like a child's toy.  Clearly a choice to make it sound like this instead of what I've heard previously.  Inexplicable.  I hope someone posts a video online.
THE SOUND MIX- was the worst I've heard at a BB related show.  Ever. 
The videos played during about half the songs are of teenagers in bikinis, with no sense of irony.  It's pretty icky.



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Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 05, 2018, 06:40:03 AM
I saw the band last night in Thousand Oaks, CA.  Quick background on me: Never saw the BBs in their heyday live, but have seen all different touring versions of BBs, BW and Al's bands since the late '80s.  Up until 2016, I could take or leave Mike's band.  I was happy that he continued to tour and bring the music to so many fans, but (especially compared to Brian's band) I thought the concerts themselves were quite forgettable.  I would still see them when I could (for me hearing this music live performed by ANYONE is a treat), but never left eager to see them again.  That all changed in 2016 when I saw Mike and his band at this same venue in Thousand Oaks.  The band was tight, the harmonies were killer, the setlist had some unexpected deep cuts and the vibe was excellent.  It felt like Mike and Co. had upped their game.  Still a very different concert experience than seeing Brian and his band, but awesome in its own way.  Seeing Jeff taking some great leads, along with Scott and Brian E to me felt like the spirit of what the Beach Boys music is and can be moving forward. I was unable to make their show last year at same venue, but was thrilled to see them again last night.  It was, however, quite a letdown.

Highlights-
Christian Love performed the whole set with the band and sounded fantastic on God Only Knows and Good Vibrations.  I wish he would've sung more leads.
Bruce's falsetto at the end of Fun Fun Fun was quite impressive and he wasn't doubled by anyone else.  He also had a couple of other great stand out falsetto vocal moments.
Scott sounded lovely on Betsy, and his lead playing is top notch.
Jeff sounded great on Darlin'.

Lowlights-
Backing vocals- I'm not sure what is going on, but Jeff selectively sings falsetto now.  Sometimes someone else is on top of the stack, but other times it's just empty (or the sound mixer is asleep at the wheel, which is quite possible based on how terrible the mix was last night).  When Jeff did sing falsetto, it sounded pretty weak (though he sounded great full voice on Darlin').  A friend saw them in October last year and Jeff didn't sing at all, so I wonder if he is having voice issues.
Mike's schtick- which had toned way down the last time I saw them-- last night felt like we were back to the circus with all the dumb tired jokes and banter
Hearing so many songs from Mike's album- they are just terrible.
Stamos- He played most of show with them.  I don't mind him on 4th guitar, but when he drums instead of Cowsill, everything falls flat.  He has no sense of meter and is more concerned about twirling a drum stick in between tom hits than keeping solid time. 
Do It Again- I already mentioned Mike's album cuts, but this gets its own mention. Just...no.  Please.  Play the real version.  No one in the crowd knows or cares who Mark McGrath is.  Some people around me were quite confused.
No Brian E- Nothing against Randall who is great, but Brian's vocals on I Can Hear Music and Then I Kissed Her in 2016 elevated the whole show.  His absence is felt, even though during his entire run with band, his vocals were criminally underutilized.
The theremin substitute sounds on Good Vibrations-  Horrendous.  Sounded like a child's toy.  Clearly a choice to make it sound like this instead of what I've heard previously.  Inexplicable.  I hope someone posts a video online.
THE SOUND MIX- was the worst I've heard at a BB related show.  Ever. 
The videos played during about half the songs are of teenagers in bikinis, with no sense of irony.  It's pretty icky.



Did Christian Love sing lead on God Only Knows instead of the Carl video? 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on March 05, 2018, 07:45:34 AM
I strongly dislike the intrusion of a poseur into what should be a balanced vocal team. Hamming it up for 1 song is ok...but not for the whole of their set. And displacing a great drummer and vocalist for way too many numbers. My lifelong experience of being in vocal groups is that modesty , blending in every sense and community are required. Not a "star" from the acting world.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on March 05, 2018, 07:48:28 AM
As for Stamos being plugged in or not, it's hard to tell. In the video of the concert in Washington from 2017 (with no Bruce), when they're playing Little Honda, Stamos is clearly playing the wrong chords. Although, there's a clip of him playing Forever, where his guitar is clearly audible. I suppose he really plays when he knows the songs, and turns down the volume when he doesn't know the song.

And I totally agree about the drums. He's a fine drummer. Bar bar band ability. Definitely not legendary rock band ability, like Cowsill, where he has solid time, energy, and really just brings it every night.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: wilsonart1 on March 05, 2018, 09:00:12 AM
Minnesota State Fair added Aug 27th and a digital download of Mike's  (whatever) is included.  This one's a tough one, I've never seen the group since Carl passed.  Thinking about going this time.  I'm getting soft in my old age.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 05, 2018, 09:44:26 AM
I've said it before; I have no doubt that John Stamos is a true, huge fan of the Beach Boys.

There are a million ways he could do something good with that. A (relatively) famous person who is a huge BB fan? Awesome. He shouldn't be on stage (whether with Mike's band or C50). What people like him should be doing is helping the cause *as a high profile fan.* He should be helping to fund a documentary on the band (though don't give him any editorial control), he should be egging Mike and the other guys on to open up the archives. He could be championing a DVD boxed set of old concerts; Stamos could even tape a video opening introduction piece or something.

So many ways he could use his celebrity and wealth for good for BB fans. Instead, he indulges himself and his passing interest in being a weekend rock star.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: All Summer Long on March 05, 2018, 09:48:50 AM
I've said it before; I have no doubt that John Stamos is a true, huge fan of the Beach Boys.

There are a million ways he could do something good with that. A (relatively) famous person who is a huge BB fan? Awesome. He shouldn't be on stage (whether with Mike's band or C50). What people like him should be doing is helping the cause *as a high profile fan.* He should be helping to fund a documentary on the band (though don't give him any editorial control), he should be egging Mike and the other guys on to open up the archives. He could be championing a DVD boxed set of old concerts; Stamos could even tape a video opening introduction piece or something.

So many ways he could use his celebrity and wealth for good for BB fans. Instead, he indulges himself and his passing interest in being a weekend rock star.

He could also work for another C50????  ;D 

Ok I know it's impossible but at least he tries to show his love of the band, even if he might do it the wrong way.

In other news, are Randall and Christian back permanently?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 05, 2018, 10:33:29 AM
Minnesota State Fair added Aug 27th and a digital download of Mike's  (whatever) is included.  This one's a tough one, I've never seen the group since Carl passed.  Thinking about going this time.  I'm getting soft in my old age.

I would say if you're thinking about it, do it. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Kid Presentable on March 05, 2018, 12:44:41 PM
I've said it before; I have no doubt that John Stamos is a true, huge fan of the Beach Boys.

There are a million ways he could do something good with that. A (relatively) famous person who is a huge BB fan? Awesome. He shouldn't be on stage (whether with Mike's band or C50). What people like him should be doing is helping the cause *as a high profile fan.* He should be helping to fund a documentary on the band (though don't give him any editorial control), he should be egging Mike and the other guys on to open up the archives. He could be championing a DVD boxed set of old concerts; Stamos could even tape a video opening introduction piece or something.

So many ways he could use his celebrity and wealth for good for BB fans. Instead, he indulges himself and his passing interest in being a weekend rock star.

Put yourself in John Stamos' shoes for a minute.  Realizing your pros and cons as a musician, status as a celebrity, knowledge that plenty of casual fans probably think it's awesome, and overall deep devotion to your favorite band.  There is no way you wouldn't do EXACTLY what he's doing!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 05, 2018, 01:32:14 PM
I think JS could do a lot worse than watch some clips of Al, Carl and Dave for a lesson in Beach Boys stage presentation. Just saying.  ;)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 05, 2018, 01:39:26 PM
I've said it before; I have no doubt that John Stamos is a true, huge fan of the Beach Boys.

There are a million ways he could do something good with that. A (relatively) famous person who is a huge BB fan? Awesome. He shouldn't be on stage (whether with Mike's band or C50). What people like him should be doing is helping the cause *as a high profile fan.* He should be helping to fund a documentary on the band (though don't give him any editorial control), he should be egging Mike and the other guys on to open up the archives. He could be championing a DVD boxed set of old concerts; Stamos could even tape a video opening introduction piece or something.

So many ways he could use his celebrity and wealth for good for BB fans. Instead, he indulges himself and his passing interest in being a weekend rock star.

Put yourself in John Stamos' shoes for a minute.  Realizing your pros and cons as a musician, status as a celebrity, knowledge that plenty of casual fans probably think it's awesome, and overall deep devotion to your favorite band.  There is no way you wouldn't do EXACTLY what he's doing!

Meh. That's *exactly* the argument Stamos himself used in an interview a couple of years ago where he discussed this very topic. He acknowledged that if he were in the audience, he would find himself annoying! (His analogy was to watching Scott Baio jump on stage with the band). He basically just said "Who *wouldn't* jump at the chance to play on stage?" My answer is, plenty of people. And I'm not talking about a fan being invited on stage for five minutes to dance. I'm talking joining the band for a full set of songs, and to *take over* on drums at various points, sing lead vocals, etc.

If Stamos occasionally showed up and played bongos on "Kokomo", it wouldn't be such a big deal. But he does whatever he wants on stage. He has carte blanche. It's embarrassing for any band that actually wants to be taken seriously. Which probably explains the cold reaction Stamos got in 2012 when he pulled the schtick, and why he was quickly relegated to observer.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on March 05, 2018, 03:38:48 PM
Yeah, I'd have no problem with Stamos if his drumming was kept to maybe a song or two, and if he didn't parade around the stage and steal the show, or at least attempt to. Can you imagine if Randell Kirsch or Jeff Foskett started meandering around the stage, or if John Cowsill stood up every five minutes while playing drums??? (about the standing thing, Stamos loves to stand, presumably to be seen, when he plays the drums. He's been doing it since '86 when the BBs first were on his show. It drives me crazy)

Look, If I were a celebrity I would absolutely do what he does! Who wouldn't? Get up on stage and rock with your favorite band? Get to share the stage with a legendary rock star? It would be incredible!!! However, I do totally agree that he could be doing more to promote the band (documentary, archival release, etc...) than just having a SIP poster in Full House and doing all the DIA17 shtick he did.

I can relate to John in the sense that he's a huge BBs fan that loves to perform. However, I think some of the things he does on stage is a little tasteless.


On another note, something that always bothers me is when people criticize Mike or John for not mentioning Dennis when they play Forever. I love when they do, however. But, can you imagine how annoying it would get if Mike talked about Brian after every song? You'd be hearing "Here's a song written by Brian Wilson" before almost every song they play. Given Mike's general personal beefs with Dennis, I'd say having him on the video almost every night is pretty cool of him. It pays respect to Dennis, even though he doesn't go out of his way to acknowledge it, like he does for Carl, or even George Harrison!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on March 05, 2018, 04:23:08 PM
Glad I am not alone in finding Stamos antics interfering with a coherent band which I have followed for........a very long time. Thing is, his schtick is " me, me, me ....not B B B". A guest is just that. A guest. Not the star. Not to take over.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on March 05, 2018, 04:25:32 PM
Also, someone pointed out that Jeff has been having falsetto problems, and hasn't been singing in the register as much. I would not mind at all for those parts to go back to Randell, and have Jeff sing in his mid-range voice


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on March 05, 2018, 04:32:14 PM
Randell...and Scott...are both good in falsetto parts. Oddly , I felt Jeff had been in best voice since rejoining the BB, although recent youtubes appear to show someone who has backed off somewhat


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 05, 2018, 08:33:33 PM
Minnesota State Fair added Aug 27th and a digital download of Mike's  (whatever) is included.  This one's a tough one, I've never seen the group since Carl passed.  Thinking about going this time.  I'm getting soft in my old age.

I would say if you're thinking about it, do it. 

If you haven't seen the group post-Carl, a state fair show is NOT the time to hop back in. You'll get a about 20-25 of the greatest hits that you've probably heard before surrounding by a bunch of sweaty country bumpkins claiming that Bruce Johnston is Brian Wilson and wandering when Uncle Jessie comes on. I really have nothing good to say about shows of this caliber. I'm not knocking the band. I'm knocking the circumstances of this show. If The Beach Boys were playing the Maryland State Fair, I would not buy tickets. I MIGHT park across York Rd. and roll down my windows.  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Kid Presentable on March 05, 2018, 11:43:21 PM
Going to an outdoor BB concert surrounded by a bunch of country bumpkins > Going to a BB concert surrounded by people like us

Going to a Brian Wilson concert surrounded by a bunch of country bumpkins < Going to a Brian Wilson concert surrounded by people like us


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 06, 2018, 05:40:24 AM
Minnesota State Fair added Aug 27th and a digital download of Mike's  (whatever) is included.  This one's a tough one, I've never seen the group since Carl passed.  Thinking about going this time.  I'm getting soft in my old age.

I would say if you're thinking about it, do it. 

If you haven't seen the group post-Carl, a state fair show is NOT the time to hop back in. You'll get a about 20-25 of the greatest hits that you've probably heard before surrounding by a bunch of sweaty country bumpkins claiming that Bruce Johnston is Brian Wilson and wandering when Uncle Jessie comes on. I really have nothing good to say about shows of this caliber. I'm not knocking the band. I'm knocking the circumstances of this show. If The Beach Boys were playing the Maryland State Fair, I would not buy tickets. I MIGHT park across York Rd. and roll down my windows.  :lol

Good point, I didn't notice that the poster said it was a fair. 

The only way I'm going to a Mike and Bruce show at another one of those summer shows is if they play Ocean City's Sunfest again.   We found, if you stand my the Inlet Parking Lot, you can peer into the tent, and basically see the show for me.   We caught Eddie Money two years ago the same way. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Sunflower70 on March 06, 2018, 05:58:16 AM
So are Randall and Christian back permanently??


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on March 06, 2018, 07:19:56 AM
Well, with Brian now gone, and if the rumors are true about  Fosket's voice problems, it would seem that both Christian and Randal could be back for good.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 06, 2018, 07:33:49 AM
Well, with Brian now gone, and if the rumors are true about  Fosket's voice problems, it would seem that both Christian and Randal could be back for good.

I know Jeff is in his early 60s, and he's been out there for 170 or so shows a year trying to emulate the perfect falsetto of a guy in his 20s.   No easy task. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 06, 2018, 09:25:50 AM
Just to help future board searches and whatnot, I'd like to mention that his name is spelled RANDELL Kirsch.

As for his membership, unless Mike plans on finding another different permanent replacement on bass, I would guess Kirsche is back full-time. Brian E. has seemingly permanently left the road.

As for Christian Love, I'm not sure what's going on. As previously mentioned, it's ironic that Mike complained about the size of the C50 band in relation to his "lean" touring operation, because it has now ballooned to a 9-piece band compared to the 7-piece of most the last decade or so (going to 8-piece when the sax guy was added a couple years ago).

I suppose the possibilities include Mike simply deciding to spring for a 9-piece band, or Christian just sitting in for shows for a few months, or indeed Christian essentially warming up into coming back to replace someone else.

I can't fathom Foskett leaving; he's essentially Mike's right-hand man of recent years, making public appearances with him, etc. His jumping to Mike's band was the most "political" move in the BB orb in quite some time, so I can't imagine he'd do all that only to spend a few years in the band.

I guess we'll find out.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on March 06, 2018, 06:24:51 PM
Think Foskett will be transitioning to more mid range parts as time goes by. He is going nowhere.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 06, 2018, 06:29:18 PM
His scheme to get back at BW by getting the BBs name from Mike continues... ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: All Summer Long on March 06, 2018, 06:51:54 PM
Just to help future board searches and whatnot, I'd like to mention that his name is spelled RANDELL Kirsche.

As for his membership, unless Mike plans on finding another different permanent replacement on bass, I would guess Kirsche is back full-time. Brian E. has seemingly permanently left the road.

As for Christian Love, I'm not sure what's going on. As previously mentioned, it's ironic that Mike complained about the size of the C50 band in relation to his "lean" touring operation, because it has now ballooned to a 9-piece band compared to the 7-piece of most the last decade or so (going to 8-piece when the sax guy was added a couple years ago).

I suppose the possibilities include Mike simply deciding to spring for a 9-piece band, or Christian just sitting in for shows for a few months, or indeed Christian essentially warming up into coming back to replace someone else.

I can't fathom Foskett leaving; he's essentially Mike's right-hand man of recent years, making public appearances with him, etc. His jumping to Mike's band was the most "political" move in the BB orb in quite some time, so I can't imagine he'd do all that only to spend a few years in the band.

I guess we'll find out.

Thanks Hey Jude about Randell's name, I had seen it spelled different ways on different websites. The reason I asked a few times was that I'm surprised he would come back after (I'm assuming, correct me if I'm wrong) Mike canned him to bring in Brian Eichenberger.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on March 06, 2018, 07:28:14 PM
Perhaps Jeff will transition to mid-range, and have Randell take over the falsetto. That would be fine by me. Hell, that would be great with me! I love Jeff's mid-range and Randell's falsetto. Great singers, those guys.

I'm curious as to who's doing the heavy lifting rhythm guitar vs the "icing on the cake" Al-esque guitar parts. I'm assuming Foskett is playing as the primary rhythm guitarist, with Christian being the "icing on the cake" , but I very well could be wrong, because Christian played solid rhythm guitar with Mike and Bruce for many years.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 06, 2018, 07:47:13 PM
I would guess that Christian is just doing a handful of shows as he has since his departure. I seriously doubt he'll be on steady once summer dates pick up from June onward. I also get the feeling that Randell isn't around for long, but is less temporary than Christian, if that makes sense. Mike had no problem letting him go for a younger voice (and got a dig in at BW while he was at it) and I have no doubt he'd do it again.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: GoodVibrations33 on March 06, 2018, 09:25:51 PM
Just to help future board searches and whatnot, I'd like to mention that his name is spelled RANDELL Kirsche.

I think his last name is spelled Kirsch.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 06, 2018, 11:19:53 PM
Quote
Just to help future board searches and whatnot, I'd like to mention that his name is spelled
This is smart thing to say, I didn't look at it like that.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: lastofmykind on March 07, 2018, 09:56:26 AM
Having talked to C Love i get the impression he is back full time.  IMO his voice adds a balance to the middle third harmonies that was not there since he left. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on March 07, 2018, 10:32:47 AM
Having talked to C Love i get the impression he is back full time.  IMO his voice adds a balance to the middle third harmonies that was not there since he left. 

I agree. His phrasing and tone reminds me of Carl


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: acedecade75 on March 07, 2018, 01:23:20 PM
 Does anyone know why Brian E left the road?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 07, 2018, 01:36:53 PM
Does anyone know why Brian E left the road?

https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeLoveOFCL/status/963128496771031041


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Eric Aniversario on March 09, 2018, 10:58:26 AM
Word is that Christian is back full time, and that Randell is unfortunately just back temporarily. I'm not sure what the reason is.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 09, 2018, 08:44:00 PM
Going by Mike's own logic, I fail to see the reasoning behind having Christian Love, Scott Totten, and Jeffrey Foskett. UNLESS, one of them were to transition to bass...but I can't really see any of them doing that.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: barsone on March 11, 2018, 09:30:15 PM
I saw the band last night in Thousand Oaks, CA.  Quick background on me: Never saw the BBs in their heyday live, but have seen all different touring versions of BBs, BW and Al's bands since the late '80s.  Up until 2016, I could take or leave Mike's band.  I was happy that he continued to tour and bring the music to so many fans, but (especially compared to Brian's band) I thought the concerts themselves were quite forgettable.  I would still see them when I could (for me hearing this music live performed by ANYONE is a treat), but never left eager to see them again.  That all changed in 2016 when I saw Mike and his band at this same venue in Thousand Oaks.  The band was tight, the harmonies were killer, the setlist had some unexpected deep cuts and the vibe was excellent.  It felt like Mike and Co. had upped their game.  Still a very different concert experience than seeing Brian and his band, but awesome in its own way.  Seeing Jeff taking some great leads, along with Scott and Brian E to me felt like the spirit of what the Beach Boys music is and can be moving forward. I was unable to make their show last year at same venue, but was thrilled to see them again last night.  It was, however, quite a letdown.

Highlights-
Christian Love performed the whole set with the band and sounded fantastic on God Only Knows and Good Vibrations.  I wish he would've sung more leads.
Bruce's falsetto at the end of Fun Fun Fun was quite impressive and he wasn't doubled by anyone else.  He also had a couple of other great stand out falsetto vocal moments.
Scott sounded lovely on Betsy, and his lead playing is top notch.
Jeff sounded great on Darlin'.

Lowlights-
Backing vocals- I'm not sure what is going on, but Jeff selectively sings falsetto now.  Sometimes someone else is on top of the stack, but other times it's just empty (or the sound mixer is asleep at the wheel, which is quite possible based on how terrible the mix was last night).  When Jeff did sing falsetto, it sounded pretty weak (though he sounded great full voice on Darlin').  A friend saw them in October last year and Jeff didn't sing at all, so I wonder if he is having voice issues.
Mike's schtick- which had toned way down the last time I saw them-- last night felt like we were back to the circus with all the dumb tired jokes and banter
Hearing so many songs from Mike's album- they are just terrible.
Stamos- He played most of show with them.  I don't mind him on 4th guitar, but when he drums instead of Cowsill, everything falls flat.  He has no sense of meter and is more concerned about twirling a drum stick in between tom hits than keeping solid time. 
Do It Again- I already mentioned Mike's album cuts, but this gets its own mention. Just...no.  Please.  Play the real version.  No one in the crowd knows or cares who Mark McGrath is.  Some people around me were quite confused.
No Brian E- Nothing against Randall who is great, but Brian's vocals on I Can Hear Music and Then I Kissed Her in 2016 elevated the whole show.  His absence is felt, even though during his entire run with band, his vocals were criminally underutilized.
The theremin substitute sounds on Good Vibrations-  Horrendous.  Sounded like a child's toy.  Clearly a choice to make it sound like this instead of what I've heard previously.  Inexplicable.  I hope someone posts a video online.
THE SOUND MIX- was the worst I've heard at a BB related show.  Ever. 
The videos played during about half the songs are of teenagers in bikinis, with no sense of irony.  It's pretty icky.


Just back from a three week trip and catching up.  I saw DC310 post and it did make me chuckle.  About three hours after he posted, I saw the matinee show of Mike and the band in Palm Desert.  Though in a classy venue (McCallum Hall), it was a typical boring show (ala casino) as NO ONE stood up for the entire show until the Fun Fun Fun encore.  Here's my thoughts and observations....

1.  I was in the balcony but the sound was awful.  I was about 40 feet from the sound guy and wanted to go over and ask "are you listening??"   Granted I'm always up front whether its a Brian or Mike show but this was awful.  In particular Bruce's mic was way off....during his Wendy solo, I thought he was going to break his neck with the violent turns to his stage right with his hands outstretched and tehn suddenly his voiced appears 10x louder.

2. My sense is Mike is doing a little less heavy lifting.  With JF doing his Darlin and Don't Worry Baby, Bruce doing Wendy, Christian did God Only Knows and Good Vibrations, and ST did his songs, my sense was Mike did a bit less than when I last saw him in Seattle in last year.  And they also had a second show to do later that evening so some of this makes sense.

3. Thankfully no Stamos !!

4. I was reading this blog but not posting on my trip.  I had read where there was speculation that Jeff was doing less falsetto due to voice issues.  Kirsch did it all from my vantage point.  Did Jeff double up with him at times....maybe some.   Earlier on this page, those in the know thought Randell was only back temporarily.  Just not sure what the plan is going forward.

5.  Everyone here on SmileySmile has their own opinion, but I feel Brian Eichelberger was a HUGE addition to this band.  I had a few PM's with a person in the group who felt the EXACT same way.  BE could do some falsetto but also handle his own level in the stack. I feel he will be sorely missed as the reviews.  Think about it everyone.....BE leaves and Mike adds 2 guys back to the group.  Something is now missing IMO.

6.  Christian voice is a lot like his dad's.  During his solo's (especially God Only Knows), his lower notes are very strong and he strains a bit as he goes up.  I guess it just tells us how good and beautiful Carl truly was singing this song.

7.  DC310 hit the head of the nail perfectly.  For the most part, the videos are horrendous....This McGrath guy obviously wants to be the next Stamos personality associated with the band.  Even the grey hairs all around were asking who this guy was......all kinda sad really. 

8.  I've always thought Mike truly didn't care for Dennis but they sing "Do You Wanna Dance" with Dennis' voice.  Basically substituting Carl's old God Only Knows lead (to Christian) and then does a Dennis voice-over.....Just seemed really strange to me.

9.  Again DC310 nails it.  God these new remakes are just AWFUL.  Do It Again is bad, but wait till you hear Sloop John B.  Either the sound was so way off it was unintelligible....OR....this remake has just butchered more ways than one a true Beach Boys classic.

10.   Noted no Jacquelyn Love dancing with her husband to Surfer Girl.....Maybe Palm Desert being close to Tahoe, she may have gone home which would be understandable to take some time off the road.

Yes I went....The tickets were free.  Given to me in the Men's Grill at a golf club 2 hours prior to the show.  After seeing what I felt was a great show  in Nov 2016....This was a true downer.....the remakes.....the sound issues.....no energy in the venue.....oh well....concert 39 is history !!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 12, 2018, 06:11:29 AM
Going by Mike's own logic, I fail to see the reasoning behind having Christian Love, Scott Totten, and Jeffrey Foskett. UNLESS, one of them were to transition to bass...but I can't really see any of them doing that.

Yes, assuming Kirsch is truly temporary, then they'll need to either have one of those guitarist switch over to bass, or hire in another bass player.

The only member of those three that we've really ever seen play any bass on stage is Totten, who played bass for at least one tune ("Pet Sounds") during C50. But I don't particularly envision any of those guys taking over on bass. I suppose one scenario would be Christian Love taking some time (hence having Kirsch back temporarily) to learn the bass parts.

What seems odd is to not simply have Kirsch back full-time (which would be tremendously easier, he can sing and play bass and was with the band for over a decade), because it probably isn't super easy to find someone who can sing in the harmony stack well and also play bass. Which may explain why they brought Christian Love back to fill out the mid-range (with Foskett and Totten now exclusively doing the higher parts), and Kirsch in to handle bass. But Kirsch is also singing I'm guessing.

All of this is also odd considering Mike's bottom-line emphasis in terms of overheard costs. *That* aspect would strongly suggest he's going to have one of those guitarists switch over to bass.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on March 13, 2018, 08:03:35 AM
The Legendary Beach Boys will be playing the Freeman Stage in Selbyville DE, on August 3rd.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 13, 2018, 08:09:53 AM
The Legendary Beach Boys will be playing the Freeman Stage in Selbyville DE, on August 3rd.

I was hoping they'd play OC Sunfest this year (it can be checked out for free), but days after Ocean City announced their Sunfest lineup, this show was announced. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: All Summer Long on March 13, 2018, 10:26:18 AM
Going by Mike's own logic, I fail to see the reasoning behind having Christian Love, Scott Totten, and Jeffrey Foskett. UNLESS, one of them were to transition to bass...but I can't really see any of them doing that.

Yes, assuming Kirsch is truly temporary, then they'll need to either have one of those guitarist switch over to bass, or hire in another bass player.

The only member of those three that we've really ever seen play any bass on stage is Totten, who played bass for at least one tune ("Pet Sounds") during C50. But I don't particularly envision any of those guys taking over on bass. I suppose one scenario would be Christian Love taking some time (hence having Kirsch back temporarily) to learn the bass parts.

What seems odd is to not simply have Kirsch back full-time (which would be tremendously easier, he can sing and play bass and was with the band for over a decade), because it probably isn't super easy to find someone who can sing in the harmony stack well and also play bass. Which may explain why they brought Christian Love back to fill out the mid-range (with Foskett and Totten now exclusively doing the higher parts), and Kirsch in to handle bass. But Kirsch is also singing I'm guessing.

All of this is also odd considering Mike's bottom-line emphasis in terms of overheard costs. *That* aspect would strongly suggest he's going to have one of those guitarists switch over to bass.

That seems like its the most likely option (moving Christian to bass) because of Mike's complaints over costs and the size of the C50 band. I don't think Foskett can play bass, so we can count that one out. And I don't know if moving Scott Totten to bass would be the best option. He is a great lead guitarist and that would hurt the band; moving him to lead guitar would require moving Foskett to lead guitar and I don't think Foskett plays lead anymore (the last time I'm guessing he did this was around 1990.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 13, 2018, 11:36:09 AM
Going by Mike's own logic, I fail to see the reasoning behind having Christian Love, Scott Totten, and Jeffrey Foskett. UNLESS, one of them were to transition to bass...but I can't really see any of them doing that.

Yes, assuming Kirsch is truly temporary, then they'll need to either have one of those guitarist switch over to bass, or hire in another bass player.

The only member of those three that we've really ever seen play any bass on stage is Totten, who played bass for at least one tune ("Pet Sounds") during C50. But I don't particularly envision any of those guys taking over on bass. I suppose one scenario would be Christian Love taking some time (hence having Kirsch back temporarily) to learn the bass parts.

What seems odd is to not simply have Kirsch back full-time (which would be tremendously easier, he can sing and play bass and was with the band for over a decade), because it probably isn't super easy to find someone who can sing in the harmony stack well and also play bass. Which may explain why they brought Christian Love back to fill out the mid-range (with Foskett and Totten now exclusively doing the higher parts), and Kirsch in to handle bass. But Kirsch is also singing I'm guessing.

All of this is also odd considering Mike's bottom-line emphasis in terms of overheard costs. *That* aspect would strongly suggest he's going to have one of those guitarists switch over to bass.

That seems like its the most likely option (moving Christian to bass) because of Mike's complaints over costs and the size of the C50 band. I don't think Foskett can play bass, so we can count that one out. And I don't know if moving Scott Totten to bass would be the best option. He is a great lead guitarist and that would hurt the band; moving him to lead guitar would require moving Foskett to lead guitar and I don't think Foskett plays lead anymore (the last time I'm guessing he did this was around 1990.

While it's not quite as easy as just telling a guitarist to switch over to bass, I would imagine both Totten and Foskett *could* play bass if they wanted to, especially after taking some time to fully learn all the nuanced parts. Similarly, I think Foskett could play all the leads (he used to do leads in the 80s, and sometimes in Brian's band). So they all have the ability to move around. But my guess would be neither Foskett nor Totten would want to switch over full-time to bass. So that leaves us indeed at a best guess of either Christian Love taking time to learn the parts, or hiring in someone else. If they keep Christian Love in the band but also hire in a new bass player, then they would probably be able to cast a wider net and find someone who plays bass but doesn't need sing. But then that gets us back to wondering why, if he doesn't need to reduce the size of the band, he doesn't just keep Kirsch in then.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: All Summer Long on March 13, 2018, 03:20:55 PM
Going by Mike's own logic, I fail to see the reasoning behind having Christian Love, Scott Totten, and Jeffrey Foskett. UNLESS, one of them were to transition to bass...but I can't really see any of them doing that.

Yes, assuming Kirsch is truly temporary, then they'll need to either have one of those guitarist switch over to bass, or hire in another bass player.

The only member of those three that we've really ever seen play any bass on stage is Totten, who played bass for at least one tune ("Pet Sounds") during C50. But I don't particularly envision any of those guys taking over on bass. I suppose one scenario would be Christian Love taking some time (hence having Kirsch back temporarily) to learn the bass parts.

What seems odd is to not simply have Kirsch back full-time (which would be tremendously easier, he can sing and play bass and was with the band for over a decade), because it probably isn't super easy to find someone who can sing in the harmony stack well and also play bass. Which may explain why they brought Christian Love back to fill out the mid-range (with Foskett and Totten now exclusively doing the higher parts), and Kirsch in to handle bass. But Kirsch is also singing I'm guessing.

All of this is also odd considering Mike's bottom-line emphasis in terms of overheard costs. *That* aspect would strongly suggest he's going to have one of those guitarists switch over to bass.

That seems like its the most likely option (moving Christian to bass) because of Mike's complaints over costs and the size of the C50 band. I don't think Foskett can play bass, so we can count that one out. And I don't know if moving Scott Totten to bass would be the best option. He is a great lead guitarist and that would hurt the band; moving him to lead guitar would require moving Foskett to lead guitar and I don't think Foskett plays lead anymore (the last time I'm guessing he did this was around 1990.

While it's not quite as easy as just telling a guitarist to switch over to bass, I would imagine both Totten and Foskett *could* play bass if they wanted to, especially after taking some time to fully learn all the nuanced parts. Similarly, I think Foskett could play all the leads (he used to do leads in the 80s, and sometimes in Brian's band). So they all have the ability to move around. But my guess would be neither Foskett nor Totten would want to switch over full-time to bass. So that leaves us indeed at a best guess of either Christian Love taking time to learn the parts, or hiring in someone else. If they keep Christian Love in the band but also hire in a new bass player, then they would probably be able to cast a wider net and find someone who plays bass but doesn't need sing. But then that gets us back to wondering why, if he doesn't need to reduce the size of the band, he doesn't just keep Kirsch in then.

Of course. They probably could both play bass.  I've heard Foskett play lead in the 80's on YouTube (I wasn't around then), and I love his solo on, I think, their live version of GTO).  I just don't see Foskett wanting to play lead or bass.  Didn't know he occasionally played lead with Brian.  Also, not saying that Foskett wouldn't be able to play bass, but it would hurt the band because he's such a good lead guitarist. 

Yeah, the question is does Mike want to keep the band that big, knowing his past statements/concerns?  If he does, keeping Kirsch would be easier, if both he and Mike are up for it.  But I wonder if Kirsch would even want to saying Mike canned him for Eichenberger (correct me if I'm wrong), and people speculated back then it was done on purpose to hurt Brian by hiring his newest falsetto singer/bass player.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Wiggy on March 13, 2018, 05:27:34 PM
Umm, didn’t Bruce play bass live (admittedly a long time ago)? It’s not like he contributes a huge amount on keyboards...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 13, 2018, 05:35:42 PM
Umm, didn’t Bruce play bass live (admittedly a long time ago)? It’s not like he contributes a huge amount on keyboards...

Bruce wore a bass on stage on many occasions...and on more than one, he even plucked it a few times!

But seriously...his instrumental contributions onstage have been non-existent since the early 70's. He clearly doesn't care about it anymore. He's a damn fine pianist...it will forever be mystifying.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Wiggy on March 13, 2018, 05:52:43 PM
Umm, didn’t Bruce play bass live (admittedly a long time ago)? It’s not like he contributes a huge amount on keyboards...

Bruce wore a bass on stage on many occasions...and on more than one, he even plucked it a few times!

But seriously...his instrumental contributions onstage have been non-existent since the early 70's. He clearly doesn't care about it anymore. He's a damn fine pianist...it will forever be mystifying.

I agree totally. Could say the same about his songwriting too (he has a Grammy, apparently  :) )


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on March 13, 2018, 06:24:17 PM
Maybe Brian E will be back sooner rather than later so Kirsch is just filling in for him.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 13, 2018, 07:33:17 PM
Maybe Brian E will be back sooner rather than later so Kirsch is just filling in for him.

He left the road because him and his wife are expecting a child. I wouldn't expect him back anytime soon. Odds are Mike will be dead by the time the kid is grown...if we're being blunt...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Wrightfan on March 14, 2018, 08:11:10 AM
The UPAC Facebook (which is close to me) made a post saying "Often called America's first rock band."  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 14, 2018, 09:10:26 AM
Maybe Brian E will be back sooner rather than later so Kirsch is just filling in for him.

I don't think Mike would go to the trouble of announcing a backing band member's departure if that member was just taking  a leave of absence for a few months.

I know Mike being super active on Facebook, etc. is something that has only occurred in the last five or so years, so I can't even recall if he announced Christian Love's departure when Foskett joined in 2014. I believe Mike did announce Foskett joining, but weirdly I don't recall him "announcing" Christian's departure.

Someone posted here back around that time that Christian's departure was not necessarily the most harmonious. Couple that with Kirsch seemingly being canned in order to bring Eichenberger on board (although at least Kirsch got a polite announcement of his departure, followed within minutes or hours by the announcement that Eichenberger had joined), and it's certainly interesting that both Christian and Randell are back in any capacity.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Eric Aniversario on March 17, 2018, 11:00:35 PM
Whoever the new bassist is, he started tonight. I saw pictures on a Facebook post. I know that Randell is back playing with his old band with Bobby Figueroa, Ed Carter and Probyn Gregory this upcoming week.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Wrightfan on March 19, 2018, 04:59:45 AM
Anyone have a setlist for last night's Kingston show? Just curious.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: All Summer Long on March 19, 2018, 09:02:13 AM
Anyone have a setlist for last night's Kingston show? Just curious.

Setlist.fm is down, so I can't help you  :(


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on March 19, 2018, 01:19:07 PM
Here’s the set from a friend over at B.B. Britain

Surfin' Safari
Catch a Wave
Little Honda
Do It Again
Surfin' U.S.A.
Surfer Girl
Getcha Back
Good to My Baby
You're So Good to Me
Dance, Dance, Dance
In My Room
All the Love in Paris
Darlin'
Why Do Fools Fall in Love
When I Grow Up (to Be a Man)
Be True to Your School
Ballad of Ole' Betsy
Don't Worry Baby
Little Deuce Coupe
409
Shut Down
I Get Around
*INTERMISSION*
California Dreamin'
Sloop John B
Wouldn't It Be Nice
California Girls
Disney Girls
God Only Knows
Pisces
Cool Head
Unleash the Love
Do You Wanna Dance?
Help Me, Rhonda
Kokomo
Good Vibrations

Barbara Ann
Fun, Fun, Fun

Based on his review it seems the new bass players name is Keith. Also the set on my opinion is getting stale they’ve been playing the same songs for 2-3 years now they don’t even swap a couple out show to show, maybe it’s because of the new bass player


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on March 19, 2018, 03:47:19 PM
That's a damn good setlist in my opinion. Pretty standard for a M&B show, but with songs like In My Room and Betsy, I can't complain.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: B.E. on March 19, 2018, 04:00:52 PM
I can’t help but notice more Mike solo songs than ‘67-80 BBs songs (and that’s including the less-than-authentic Do It Again in the BBs category).


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 19, 2018, 07:08:58 PM
That's the standard with a couple semi-non-standards thrown in...You're SO Good To Me, Good To My Baby, and In My Room...but even those three are "regular irregular" songs.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 19, 2018, 08:07:01 PM
Early BBs songs are solo songs to Mike the egomaniac....


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 20, 2018, 05:47:36 AM
That's a damn good setlist in my opinion. Pretty standard for a M&B show, but with songs like In My Room and Betsy, I can't complain.

I think it's a good setlist for anyone who hasn't seen Mike's band in concert.   


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on March 20, 2018, 06:14:27 AM
That's a damn good setlist in my opinion. Pretty standard for a M&B show, but with songs like In My Room and Betsy, I can't complain.

I think it's a good setlist for anyone who hasn't seen Mike's band in concert.   

Agreed that’s more what i meant. I’ve seen them enough where aside from Aren’t You Glad and All I Wanna Do which I’ve seen in the last few years live there really isn’t anything here making me want to spend my money and see them again. Which isn’t a criticism just how i feel, on the opposite side Brian is always incorporating a surprise or two every time i see him.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 20, 2018, 06:31:42 AM
That's a damn good setlist in my opinion. Pretty standard for a M&B show, but with songs like In My Room and Betsy, I can't complain.

I think it's a good setlist for anyone who hasn't seen Mike's band in concert.   

Agreed that’s more what i meant. I’ve seen them enough where aside from Aren’t You Glad and All I Wanna Do which I’ve seen in the last few years live there really isn’t anything here making me want to spend my money and see them again. Which isn’t a criticism just how i feel, on the opposite side Brian is always incorporating a surprise or two every time i see him.

My 2018 BB budget is being spent on Al.   Mike's setlists are pretty meat and potatoes.   He changes a few songs, but I'm not paying money to see Brian do Pet Sounds again.   Maybe next year if he brings a different theme to my neck of the woods. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on March 21, 2018, 05:44:23 AM
I would have loved to have seen Al's show, but Easter Sunday in my area just didn't work. No real desire to see Mike's BB show; haven't seen them since Carl passed, other than twice on the 50th reunion tour. And as for Brian, as much as I love him and his band's performances, I'm done with the whole Pet Sounds tour. I've seen several shows already, and I think Brian's performance over the course of the last tour really went down hill a bit, with his speaking the songs of Pet Sounds rather than singing them lounge lizard style. Just really lacking.....I'd really rather just see the Greatest Hits show frankly.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 21, 2018, 01:03:23 PM
Mike and Bruce are returning to the AMT in Lancaster this August as they do at least once a year to rehash the same oldies for the same oldies. I'll pass. It is worth noting that this is the first year ticket prices have gone DOWN (a whole $10) despite the lineup increasing. I can see some gaps in the schedule in August where they could potentially come closer to the Baltimore area but it would take something really special for me to return after being verbally abused by Bruce last year, despite Mike and the entire rest of the band being excellent.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on March 22, 2018, 08:20:06 AM
I just bought cheap tickets (about half price) to go to their show tonight at the Luhrs Center in PA. I'm honestly only bothering because my girlfriend really wants to go, but based on recent shows there's not really anything too new I haven't seen. Aside from a new bass player and Christian singing God Only Knows, which i'll admit in the videos I've seen he sounds very solid on. But other than that i'm prepared for the same old meat and potatoes show, much more excited to see Al at Rams Head next week.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 22, 2018, 08:39:29 AM
I just bought cheap tickets (about half price) to go to their show tonight at the Luhrs Center in PA. I'm honestly only bothering because my girlfriend really wants to go, but based on recent shows there's not really anything too new I haven't seen. Aside from a new bass player and Christian singing God Only Knows, which i'll admit in the videos I've seen he sounds very solid on. But other than that i'm prepared for the same old meat and potatoes show, much more excited to see Al at Rams Head next week.

I wonder if they'll expand the setlist as the new / returning bandmembers get more comfortable.    When I saw them at the Lyric two years ago, it was a 43 (I think) song set. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 22, 2018, 11:00:17 AM
I just bought cheap tickets (about half price) to go to their show tonight at the Luhrs Center in PA. I'm honestly only bothering because my girlfriend really wants to go, but based on recent shows there's not really anything too new I haven't seen. Aside from a new bass player and Christian singing God Only Knows, which i'll admit in the videos I've seen he sounds very solid on. But other than that i'm prepared for the same old meat and potatoes show, much more excited to see Al at Rams Head next week.

I wonder if they'll expand the setlist as the new / returning bandmembers get more comfortable.    When I saw them at the Lyric two years ago, it was a 43 (I think) song set. 

That's correct. That show at the Lyric was probably the best I've ever seen Mike and Bruce give...still salty about "All I Wanna Do" getting cut.  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 22, 2018, 11:16:36 AM
I just bought cheap tickets (about half price) to go to their show tonight at the Luhrs Center in PA. I'm honestly only bothering because my girlfriend really wants to go, but based on recent shows there's not really anything too new I haven't seen. Aside from a new bass player and Christian singing God Only Knows, which i'll admit in the videos I've seen he sounds very solid on. But other than that i'm prepared for the same old meat and potatoes show, much more excited to see Al at Rams Head next week.

I wonder if they'll expand the setlist as the new / returning bandmembers get more comfortable.    When I saw them at the Lyric two years ago, it was a 43 (I think) song set. 

That's correct. That show at the Lyric was probably the best I've ever seen Mike and Bruce give...still salty about "All I Wanna Do" getting cut.  :lol

I honestly wish you'd never shared that All I Wanna Do was actually on the setlist only to get cut.   That's beyond disappointing and does slightly temper how much I enjoyed that show. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 22, 2018, 11:52:16 AM
On Al's live album, he literally crossed songs out on the back cover that he cut out!

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91mDJC2jmaL._SL1500_.jpg)

I always wondered if excising "Kokomo" so visibly was done purposely. Bummer about "You Still Believe In Me" though; the Wilson sisters sounded good on that on when they toured with Al.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on March 28, 2018, 11:09:45 AM
Aug 7 date added at Tioga Downs, NY


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 28, 2018, 11:15:03 AM
On Al's live album, he literally crossed songs out on the back cover that he cut out!

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91mDJC2jmaL._SL1500_.jpg)

I always wondered if excising "Kokomo" so visibly was done purposely. Bummer about "You Still Believe In Me" though; the Wilson sisters sounded good on that on when they toured with Al.

I've always wondered.   If this a picture of a setlist to a show where YSBIM and Kokomo were actually cut out, or were they both left off for length purposes?   If it was a time thing, I'd have gladly sacrificed Fun Fun Fun or Barbara Ann for YSBIM.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Wrightfan on March 28, 2018, 02:10:50 PM
Another new date: August 5th at Bethel, NY (the REAL site of Woodstock '69!)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Kid Presentable on March 28, 2018, 11:15:17 PM
Lol @ leaving in California Energy Blues as the show closer.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 29, 2018, 06:05:30 AM
Lol @ leaving in California Energy Blues as the show closer.

"California Energy Blues" was a studio track added as a "bonus track" to the CD.

If you look closely, it appears the back cover listing *is* from an actual concert-used setlist, but they've superimposed the bonus track name in the same font.

As for whether the scratched-out songs were scratched out for the show or for the CD, I'm not sure (and keep in mind Al did a run of like a week or two of shows in Las Vegas in late 1999, so the CD probably isn't from one single show), but I'd guess probably for the CD.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on March 29, 2018, 09:09:37 AM
I saw two M&B shows this past week. They were both, for the most part, excellent. I've stayed away from this board mostly because I absolutely can't stand the Mike vs. Brian bantering. I don't get how you can walk away from ANY Beach Boys related concert, if you truly love this music, and not have a good feeling in your heart.

Both bands are excellent, both feature original members of The Beach Boys, both make their audience happy. I'm gonna continue to see both for as long as possible.

(But even having said that - the Mark McGrath stuff needs to go, pronto).


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 29, 2018, 09:20:16 AM
I saw two M&B shows this past week. They were both, for the most part, excellent. I've stayed away from this board mostly because I absolutely can't stand the Mike vs. Brian bantering. I don't get how you can walk away from ANY Beach Boys related concert, if you truly love this music, and not have a good feeling in your heart.

Both bands are excellent, both feature original members of The Beach Boys, both make their audience happy. I'm gonna continue to see both for as long as possible.

(But even having said that - the Mark McGrath stuff needs to go, pronto).

In the past couple years, I've attended Brian shows, Mike's Beach Boys shows, and now an Al Storyteller show, and loved every one. 

But, I agree 100% about the Do It Again at Mike's shows.   Never has there been a concert in the history of music that was improved by a contribution by Mark McGrath.   


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: jeffh on March 29, 2018, 09:22:05 AM
I’m going to see  a great cover band in May in Hartford WI, “Sounds of Summer. “ They are on a national tour.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on March 29, 2018, 10:20:10 AM
Just checked them out on tbeir site. Ok,...but.the keyboard guy sings Brians parts.......so, how come the bass vocalist is suddenly on the high parts in the next tune?  They seem  reasonable....but, really, "tribute" = "theft" of intellectual property, image and artistry. Increasingly, I find this approach stifling new works and new ideas.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 29, 2018, 01:10:40 PM
Tribute bands have been around for eons. As long as they're properly advertised, there's nothing wrong with them. Some are awful, a few are great, a lot of them are okay.

Mike Love's tour is essentially a licensed tribute band.

It isn't low-budget tribute bands playing festivals that are stifling "new works and ideas." Talk to the myriad of huge bands/artists (including various iterations of "The Beach Boys" over the years) who toured for decades without creating much in the way of "new works."


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 29, 2018, 01:14:16 PM
I'm frankly surprised that Beach Boys tribute bands can get a decent amount of bookings considering there is an actual band using the "Beach Boys" name playing all year, every year, including some smaller market venues.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: “Big Daddy” on April 13, 2018, 07:37:56 PM
July 17: Interlochen, MI (http://tickets.interlochen.org/summer-arts-festival)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: acedecade75 on April 14, 2018, 11:52:41 AM
July 17: Interlochen, MI (http://tickets.interlochen.org/summer-arts-festival)

 Interlochen is a fantastic venue to see a show.  I wonder if they'll be doing the meet and greet packages for this show?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on April 23, 2018, 07:18:23 AM
Bethlehem PA Events Center will present The Beach Boys on Aug 14


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on April 28, 2018, 02:03:58 PM
The Boys will hit the stage on September 28 at Norsk Hostfest, in ND.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on April 28, 2018, 03:37:27 PM
There's the crucial smaller markets they know and love...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on May 01, 2018, 12:21:29 PM
Another Jersey date added for The Beach Boys. Aug. 18 in Ocean Grove

https://www.app.com/story/entertainment/events/2018/04/30/beach-boys-return-ocean-grove-great-auditorium-date/477684002/


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Amy B. on May 01, 2018, 12:25:42 PM
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Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on May 04, 2018, 06:37:00 AM
On September 15, The Beach Boys will play the Kansas State Fair.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 04, 2018, 03:29:32 PM
Wow...they're at the Mountain Winery in CA the next night! Say what you will about these guys (and there is plenty to say...) but they certainly work hard.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 04, 2018, 03:31:41 PM
They have a new photo on their tour dates page that now includes Keith as well as Christian Love. It also looks like Mike and Bruce's faces have been poorly digitally enhanced to look younger and brighter. It's pretty creepy.

https://www.thebeachboys.com/tour


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on May 04, 2018, 04:57:22 PM
Looks like Stan is subbing for Mike this year.  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on May 04, 2018, 09:27:47 PM
They have a new photo on their tour dates page that now includes Keith as well as Christian Love. It also looks like Mike and Bruce's faces have been poorly digitally enhanced to look younger and brighter. It's pretty creepy.

https://www.thebeachboys.com/tour

I didn't see anything weird or creepy about the band photo.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on May 06, 2018, 05:06:17 AM
They have a new photo on their tour dates page that now includes Keith as well as Christian Love. It also looks like Mike and Bruce's faces have been poorly digitally enhanced to look younger and brighter. It's pretty creepy.

https://www.thebeachboys.com/tour

That ones not terrible but i see what you’re saying about the creepy part. I saw another pic in an article about them and that one was weird looking too. See below

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thetelegraph.com/news/amp/The-Beach-Boys-to-perform-at-Liberty-Bank-Alton-12887667.php


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 06, 2018, 10:05:04 AM
Exactly! Bruce's face looks exceptionally unnatural in that photo.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on May 06, 2018, 05:54:32 PM
So is wearing black leather shoes without socks.  ;D


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 06, 2018, 08:05:23 PM
So is wearing black leather shoes without socks.  ;D

Hey, at least he has long pants!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on May 09, 2018, 10:07:28 AM
It feels like Summer, and America's Band is filling up their schedule.

https://www.thetelegraph.com/news/article/The-Beach-Boys-to-perform-at-Liberty-Bank-Alton-12887667.php


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on May 15, 2018, 11:19:13 PM
http://www.wjbdradio.com/music-news/2018/05/15/mike-love-michael-mcdonald-to-perform-at-annual-we-write-the-songs-event-at-the-library-of-congress

Story implies Mike will be solo.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on May 16, 2018, 06:28:17 AM
Another Date added to The Beach Boys 2018 Tour

Ohio State Fair
Wed., July 25, 2018, 7 pm


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: feelintheflows on May 24, 2018, 03:07:39 PM
Now and Then tour ?? Haha oh boy.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on May 25, 2018, 09:39:30 AM
August 26th date added for Moline

And tonight in Springfield, organizers expect a crowd of 4000.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on May 25, 2018, 01:17:24 PM
Unfortunately, by tying the official "Beach Boys" page in with bookings for Mike's version of the band, you get stuff like this:

https://www.facebook.com/events/1708943499184238

A pic of the old/original BBs (in this case the banner pic from the BB FB page, which is the upcoming London Philharmonic album) is essentially being used to promote Mike's tour. Hopefully they can fix this.

I *actually* thought when I got the notification that they were perhaps doing an "orchestral" show based on the BB album, essentially the recent Orbison UK hologram tour minus the hologram, perhaps playing the new album live with a live orchestra playing along with the old recordings.

But no, I think this is just Mike's tour.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 25, 2018, 08:18:39 PM
Yikes. That's Bad.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on June 05, 2018, 07:48:44 AM
The Montreal date is July 23rd


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on June 07, 2018, 07:47:24 AM
Another date added on their August swing thru New York State - August 6 at Constellation Brands-Marvin Sands Performing Arts Center in Canandaigua.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on June 07, 2018, 08:52:09 PM
I don't know how they're going to physically survive the month of August. Overall, this is a light year for Mike and Bruce with touring, but the month of August is on steroids compared to the rest of the summer, and calendar year for that matter.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on June 08, 2018, 06:12:34 AM
I don't know how they're going to physically survive the month of August. Overall, this is a light year for Mike and Bruce with touring, but the month of August is on steroids compared to the rest of the summer, and calendar year for that matter.

23 shows in 26 days in August; that's seems pretty normal for Mike's tour (last year was pretty similar; 20 shows over 24 days). And I do feel bad for the people who catch the shows on the tail end of that run especially, as I recall last year that pro-shot benefit show that was up online for a few days was taken from the tail end of a really long run of shows, and the band seemed pretty tired and lacking in energy.



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on June 08, 2018, 06:45:06 AM
They also have some heavy travel, in relation to quirky scheduling surounding some Canadian dates. They are way up in Timmins Onrario for a show on June 30, then in California the next day. They also have shows in Ottawa and Montreal on the 21st and 23rd of July. A nice easy travel stretch as these cities are less than 2 hours apart by car. BUT they are doing a gig in Edmonton, halfway across the Country in between on the 22nd!! Can't say these guys don't giver'!!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on June 08, 2018, 07:06:47 AM
I don't know how they're going to physically survive the month of August. Overall, this is a light year for Mike and Bruce with touring, but the month of August is on steroids compared to the rest of the summer, and calendar year for that matter.

23 shows in 26 days in August; that's seems pretty normal for Mike's tour (last year was pretty similar; 20 shows over 24 days). And I do feel bad for the people who catch the shows on the tail end of that run especially, as I recall last year that pro-shot benefit show that was up online for a few days was taken from the tail end of a really long run of shows, and the band seemed pretty tired and lacking in energy.



Yes, I recall last August was packed because I saw the 2nd show in one day after about seven days of straight shows. It wasn't bad...but it showed. Musically, and in Bruce's obtuse personality. But doesn't the rest of the summer months (June & July) seem less active than usual this year?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on June 08, 2018, 07:52:52 AM
The end of last year and beginning of this year seemed a bit lighter than usual for Mike. It may well be that he's just letting up a *tiny bit* on the schedule. I think a recent interview he did had him acknowledging that this year is slightly lighter than last year in total shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on June 14, 2018, 06:50:22 AM
The World Tour will push into late fall as The Beach Boys are surfing their way into the Mark C. Smith Concert Hall at the VBC in Hunstsville, Alabama on November 13.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: BeachBoysCovers on June 17, 2018, 11:09:06 AM
Surprised by how heavy the Cowsill version of "Wild Honey" is. He was practically screaming it at points, which was great.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on June 17, 2018, 05:38:44 PM
Surprised by how heavy the Cowsill version of "Wild Honey" is. He was practically screaming it at points, which was great.

He was very displeased that Mike doesn't seem to think all audiences would enjoy that song when I saw them last summer and asked why the song wasn't included in the encore. I think Mike has a good concept of "flow" in a setlist however, I think he has a poor concept of pleasing the variety of listeners that come to their shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on June 19, 2018, 12:21:53 PM
Oops, looks like this article (about Keith Moon digging the Beach Boys) incorrectly suggested Al was playing with Mike and Bruce for the Hampton Court shows:

https://www.nwitimes.com/entertainment/music/keith-moon-sent-letter-to-beach-boys-asking-to-join/article_49eacb48-2811-5c34-966c-da7de41e42c7.html


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on June 20, 2018, 05:50:31 PM
When he says  Brian , Dennis, Carl, and Al wouldn’t have allowed it, he is saying he would have dumped Dennis for Keith?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on June 27, 2018, 09:19:50 AM
I can't believe they're *still* doing *this* at the shows:

(http://thisisreno.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Beach-Boys323-400x600.jpg)

From a Friday, 6/22 show.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Dave in KC on July 02, 2018, 12:18:18 AM
Will they do that on the 4th of July special?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on July 02, 2018, 04:18:00 AM
Just got announcement from Ticket master

Friday, October 5  Beau Rivage, Biloxi, MS
 
(The M&B Beach Boys usually play a Saturday show there as well).

Debating whether to go - the last time I saw them I lucked out - Stamos wasn't there.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on July 02, 2018, 06:50:55 AM
Just got confirmation on that anticipated Saturday show at Beau Rivage. So it's October 5 and 6.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Dave in KC on July 02, 2018, 04:02:41 PM
How many years in a row have they played that place?  And always the first weekend in October. I saw them there in 2003.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: donald on July 02, 2018, 06:46:32 PM
They are playing the mountain winery in Saratoga CA in September.  Being from the mid Atlantic area, it is interesting that I may see them at that same venue  for a third time , again in late summer, early fall.  May be my last time to see them.   We are all getting older.  But it is almost always a good show.   always enjoy seeing Scott, cowsill, and Jeffrey.   I don't know how they keep it up.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 10:05:47 AM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36598163_10156494964109140_8762297651132628992_n.png?_nc_cat=1&oh=25b640a2011d15cd5c4582d10feed8f6&oe=5BD9E1D7)

It struck me seeing this photo in a feed this morning, what someone posted in another discussion: It seems Mike's M.O. of going "lean and mean" with his touring band has changed a bit. I wonder why.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 10:31:00 AM
Seems they are going the “Chicago” route.... BW, Al, And David would more than do. ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on July 04, 2018, 11:46:44 AM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36598163_10156494964109140_8762297651132628992_n.png?_nc_cat=1&oh=25b640a2011d15cd5c4582d10feed8f6&oe=5BD9E1D7)

It struck me seeing this photo in a feed this morning, what someone posted in another discussion: It seems Mike's M.O. of going "lean and mean" with his touring band has changed a bit. I wonder why.

NCOTFBB'S  >:D         ( No chance outside the fake Beach Boys)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 12:32:42 PM
OSD July! ;D


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 04, 2018, 12:37:55 PM
I'll YouTube this lyp-synched shlock tomorrow...better things to do tonight...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 12:43:35 PM
M&B are getting over the top covering for Mike’s lack of singing ability at this point...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 12:45:41 PM
Mike will be getting some kind of award at this event tonight too.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 12:53:09 PM
Uh oh, wonder what?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 01:20:27 PM
I'd give Mike a replica of that foot statue Reagan gave James Watt back in '83. But it would need to be at least 20 times larger than Watt's to cover Mike's f-ups. Mark McGrath can unveil it by pulling the hotel bedsheet used in the Do It Again video off the statue during the broadcast.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 01:34:39 PM
Wink Martindale to M.C?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 01:53:06 PM
Wink Martindale to M.C?

According to an impeccable source, Mike called Wink multiple times to invite him to emcee the event, but each time the person answering the phone at Wink's house told Mike that Wink was "busy washing his hair" and could not take the call. Mike eventually gave up and got Stamos instead.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 04, 2018, 01:53:20 PM
Jimmy B. Is putting up a bit of the soundcheck on his Instagram. A great pic of Jimmy and Bruce, two guys who 'pray for waves' as the caption says.

Looking forward to watching this tonight. Hoping JB and BB do a tune or two together.  Happy 4th!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 01:56:34 PM
Jimmy B. Is putting up a bit of the soundcheck on his Instagram. A great pic of Jimmy and Bruce, two guys who 'pray for waves' as the caption says.

Looking forward to watching this tonight. Hoping JB and BB do a tune or two together.  Happy 4th!

Prerecorded tracks or a 100% authentic live performance this time around?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 04, 2018, 02:00:34 PM
Mike will be getting some kind of award at this event tonight too.

The National Artistic Achievement Award. Can't say I can find much info on it. It's had 4 prior recipients, including Stevie Wonder.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 04, 2018, 02:02:54 PM
Jimmy B. Is putting up a bit of the soundcheck on his Instagram. A great pic of Jimmy and Bruce, two guys who 'pray for waves' as the caption says.

Looking forward to watching this tonight. Hoping JB and BB do a tune or two together.  Happy 4th!

Prerecorded tracks or a 100% authentic live performance this time around?
Well it sounded like JB was playing a little guitar, but aren't these things always pre recorded?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 02:05:46 PM
Mike will be getting some kind of award at this event tonight too.

The National Artistic Achievement Award. Can't say I can find much info on it. It's had 4 prior recipients, including Stevie Wonder.

Yes, that's what it was, thanks for the clarification. I hope someone explained to Mike that The Beach Boys are getting the award, as in including the Wilsons and Jardine et al, and it's not just going to Mike & Bruce. If he delivers an acceptance speech when Stamos gives him the award, I hope he sees fit to name his original bandmates which he doesn't seem to do as often these days in his promotional press junket interviews.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 02:09:07 PM
Jimmy B. Is putting up a bit of the soundcheck on his Instagram. A great pic of Jimmy and Bruce, two guys who 'pray for waves' as the caption says.

Looking forward to watching this tonight. Hoping JB and BB do a tune or two together.  Happy 4th!

Prerecorded tracks or a 100% authentic live performance this time around?
Well it sounded like JB was playing a little guitar, but aren't these things always pre recorded?

If they are always prerecorded, it kind of makes a soundcheck unnecessary. Unless the soundcheck is more for camera blocking than actually running through a soundcheck for the musicians.

There was an issue in previous years with some fans (and posters here and elsewhere) suggesting some of these things Mike did were 100% live when they clearly were not. Just curious if this year would be a 100% live show.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2018, 02:16:28 PM
Mike will be getting some kind of award at this event tonight too.

The National Artistic Achievement Award. Can't say I can find much info on it. It's had 4 prior recipients, including Stevie Wonder.

Yes, that's what it was, thanks for the clarification. I hope someone explained to Mike that The Beach Boys are getting the award, as in including the Wilsons and Jardine et al, and it's not just going to Mike & Bruce. If he delivers an acceptance speech when Stamos gives him the award, I hope he sees fit to name his original bandmates which he doesn't seem to do as often these days in his promotional press junket interviews.

If he does, it'll probably be to remind everybody that Brian is his cousin (which he only does when discussing Brian's many accomplishments)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 02:35:00 PM
Mike will be getting some kind of award at this event tonight too.

The National Artistic Achievement Award. Can't say I can find much info on it. It's had 4 prior recipients, including Stevie Wonder.

Yes, that's what it was, thanks for the clarification. I hope someone explained to Mike that The Beach Boys are getting the award, as in including the Wilsons and Jardine et al, and it's not just going to Mike & Bruce. If he delivers an acceptance speech when Stamos gives him the award, I hope he sees fit to name his original bandmates which he doesn't seem to do as often these days in his promotional press junket interviews.

If he does, it'll probably be to remind everybody that Brian is his cousin (which he only does when discussing Brian's many accomplishments)

I would not be surprised if that's exactly what happens! It's been Mike's M.O. in recent interviews to either go that route, or not mention the name "Brian" at all. As happened on an 8-minute long interview recently done on UK television.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 03:11:55 PM
Mike will be getting some kind of award at this event tonight too.

The National Artistic Achievement Award. Can't say I can find much info on it. It's had 4 prior recipients, including Stevie Wonder.

Yes, that's what it was, thanks for the clarification. I hope someone explained to Mike that The Beach Boys are getting the award, as in including the Wilsons and Jardine et al, and it's not just going to Mike & Bruce. If he delivers an acceptance speech when Stamos gives him the award, I hope he sees fit to name his original bandmates which he doesn't seem to do as often these days in his promotional press junket interviews.

If he does, it'll probably be to remind everybody that Brian is his cousin (which he only does when discussing Brian's many accomplishments)

I would not be surprised if that's exactly what happens! It's been Mike's M.O. in recent interviews to either go that route, or not mention the name "Brian" at all. As happened on an 8-minute long interview recently done on UK television.

Billy with the win in round 1! I don't know what this interviewer's credentials are or who he represents, but here are Mike and Bruce yapping away earlier today in DC...

https://youtu.be/4bDORIR2YzA?t=29s (https://youtu.be/4bDORIR2YzA?t=29s)

Now were the original 80's July 4th shows in DC Mike's idea? He seems to suggest that in this interview. Legit question...is the credit for those shows really Mike's? Hmm.



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 03:18:21 PM
The history rewrite in the flesh....


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 03:25:48 PM
Brian Wilson’s genius is “fake” news... ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2018, 03:28:42 PM
Mike will be getting some kind of award at this event tonight too.

The National Artistic Achievement Award. Can't say I can find much info on it. It's had 4 prior recipients, including Stevie Wonder.

Yes, that's what it was, thanks for the clarification. I hope someone explained to Mike that The Beach Boys are getting the award, as in including the Wilsons and Jardine et al, and it's not just going to Mike & Bruce. If he delivers an acceptance speech when Stamos gives him the award, I hope he sees fit to name his original bandmates which he doesn't seem to do as often these days in his promotional press junket interviews.

If he does, it'll probably be to remind everybody that Brian is his cousin (which he only does when discussing Brian's many accomplishments)

I would not be surprised if that's exactly what happens! It's been Mike's M.O. in recent interviews to either go that route, or not mention the name "Brian" at all. As happened on an 8-minute long interview recently done on UK television.

Billy with the win in round 1! I don't know what this interviewer's credentials are or who he represents, but here are Mike and Bruce yapping away earlier today in DC...

https://youtu.be/4bDORIR2YzA?t=29s (https://youtu.be/4bDORIR2YzA?t=29s)

Now were the original 80's July 4th shows in DC Mike's idea? He seems to suggest that in this interview. Legit question...is the credit for those shows really Mike's? Hmm.



For the longest time, I didn't know there was a radio guy named "Cousin Brucie" and  when Mike referred to him, I thought he was talking about Bruce Johnston :lol  I was like "holy sh*t this guy has a serious problem" :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 03:35:08 PM
Haha!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2018, 03:38:30 PM
https://truestrange.com/2017/07/15/how-everyone-alive-now-on-earth-is-your-cousin/


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 03:39:00 PM
Brian Wilson’s genius is “fake” news... ::)

Apparently - given the time Mike spent on it in this interview - discussing "I Write The Songs" is weighted heavier than mentioning Carl, Dennis, or the Beach Boys (pre-license) at all. Only a mention of "my cousin Brian" regarding songs he wrote with Mike.

Oh, and suggesting the original run of DC 4th of July concerts was Mike's idea.

It shouldn't, but this stuff gets me fired up.

Mike: It isn't about you.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2018, 03:40:52 PM
Brian Wilson’s genius is “fake” news... ::)

Apparently - given the time Mike spent on it in this interview - discussing "I Write The Songs" is weighted heavier than mentioning Carl, Dennis, or the Beach Boys (pre-license) at all. Only a mention of "my cousin Brian" regarding songs he wrote with Mike.

Oh, and suggesting the original run of DC 4th of July concerts was Mike's idea.

It shouldn't, but this stuff gets me fired up.

Mike: It isn't about you.

Well said Cousin Craig :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 03:44:06 PM
Uncle Billy should interview M&B!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 03:44:21 PM
Brian Wilson’s genius is “fake” news... ::)

Apparently - given the time Mike spent on it in this interview - discussing "I Write The Songs" is weighted heavier than mentioning Carl, Dennis, or the Beach Boys (pre-license) at all. Only a mention of "my cousin Brian" regarding songs he wrote with Mike.

Oh, and suggesting the original run of DC 4th of July concerts was Mike's idea.

It shouldn't, but this stuff gets me fired up.

Mike: It isn't about you.

Well said Cousin Craig :lol

Thank you, Cousin Billy!  ;D


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2018, 03:56:06 PM
Uncle Billy should interview M&B!

Thank you Aunt Melinda, er, Cousin Smile Brian!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2018, 03:56:37 PM
Brian Wilson’s genius is “fake” news... ::)

Apparently - given the time Mike spent on it in this interview - discussing "I Write The Songs" is weighted heavier than mentioning Carl, Dennis, or the Beach Boys (pre-license) at all. Only a mention of "my cousin Brian" regarding songs he wrote with Mike.

Oh, and suggesting the original run of DC 4th of July concerts was Mike's idea.

It shouldn't, but this stuff gets me fired up.

Mike: It isn't about you.

Well said Cousin Craig :lol

Thank you, Cousin Billy!  ;D

;)
Half tempted to do a word filter on the board that automatically changes "Brian" to "Cousin Brian" :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 04:14:58 PM
Do it (again)!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 05:15:17 PM
Any highlights from the show?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 06:13:35 PM
Here is the stream on YouTube - Mike's set just ended around 9:10 EST, I Get Around, Kokomo (with Buffett) shortened that went right into Fun Fun Fun.

You should be able to rewind the stream to catch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5HNFhzNdnI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5HNFhzNdnI)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 06:16:41 PM
Mike did accept the award "on behalf of Brian, Carl, and Dennis Wilson, Alan Jardine, David Marks, and Bruce and I".

Cool - As it should be.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 06:33:06 PM
That's a relief..... ;)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Marty Castillo on July 04, 2018, 06:41:17 PM
I've been fooled before, but it sounded live to me. Not saying there wasn't anything extra--certainly could have been. Much improved compared to years past with the pre-recorded vocals/tracks.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 04, 2018, 06:56:23 PM
Buffett instead of McGrath is a win lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on July 04, 2018, 07:47:08 PM
I'll YouTube this lyp-synched shlock tomorrow...better things to do tonight...


https://youtu.be/MnRchdfsnMw


The second year in a row I am grateful Mike fired Brian, Al and David, and gave a new meaning to ‘Independence’ Day.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: donald on July 04, 2018, 07:57:54 PM
I' ve been  a die hard fan for decades and decades (as some of you may remember). But in recent years have been sidelined by a growing interest in the blues, pop and swing my friends and co-musicians enjoy playing.   But I've drifted back in recent weeks to the lovely melodies and lore of the Boys.   Gotta say, I am amazed by the ongoing strength and musicianship of Mike and the touring band.   Couldn't believe how well they came across in the DC performance today.  Mike, Bruce, Cowsill, Scotty, , Jeff, and the rest are still going strong it seems.  Hell, even Stamos.   Been 3 years or more since I last saw them.   5 years since I last saw BW.  May see them again in California this fall.   These guys still bring me a bit of happiness..  amazing after all these years.    


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: thatjacob on July 04, 2018, 08:03:23 PM
I've been fooled before, but it sounded live to me. Not saying there wasn't anything extra--certainly could have been. Much improved compared to years past with the pre-recorded vocals/tracks.

Pretty sure it's lipsynced or at least pitch corrected a bit, but it's much better than last year. I feel like scott totten's opening riff for "fun, fun, fun" had a tiny slightly muted string mistake in it, so that leads me to believe that it wasn't live for the broadcast, it was at least just a recent live performance's audio.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: thatjacob on July 04, 2018, 08:14:40 PM
You can definitely tell that there's something going on with mike's vocal, but I'm not sure what it is anymore. If you listen to the first line of "fun, fun, fun" you can hear two mike love vocals simultaneously on the first word "well" before it cuts out like it was a mistake.

It really doesn't matter in a situation like that, though. Mike's vocal has been live and fairly strong the two times I've seen him in concert.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: John Brode on July 04, 2018, 10:22:29 PM
Saw Mike and Bruce a couple days ago, and while there were tributes to Carl and Dennis with GOK and DYWD (they used Dennis' lead vocal), I was surprised that there was absolutely no mention of Brian.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 10:57:37 PM
Welcome back donald!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2018, 11:55:58 PM
Never mind my original post... I was looking at the wrong video. Performance wasn’t bad and mike sounded better but the mix was too “wet” and Stamos continues to annoy me

Edit

Referring to the clip of them doing I Get Around


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lee Marshall on July 05, 2018, 08:36:22 AM
I was pleasantly surprised.  The vocal sound was pretty strong...the best of all of the 'acts' I thought.  I wondered what they did to enhance Mike's power and tone...  It worked.

Quibbles?  Why wouldn't they put the camera on Jeff when he was singing key parts of Kokomo?  Looked stupid...amateurish.  Obviously a poor production idea.  Why send John Cowsill packing in order to put 'who's-his-arse' on the drums?  Just let him play the guitar...or some bongos.  Jimmy isn't good at singing harmonies.  As I have said for years...'speechifying' ain't Mike's strong suit.  It never has been.  Stumbling through his wee accepting of the award 'blurt' was pretty iffy...and he forgot to include Blondie and Ricky.

All in all though?  W A Y  better than last year's debacle.  Hey!!!  I gotta tell the truth. ;)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on July 05, 2018, 09:53:23 AM

Quibbles?  Why wouldn't they put the camera on Jeff when he was singing key parts of Kokomo?  Looked stupid...amateurish.  Obviously a poor production idea.  

This is an ongoing issue and has been for a couple decades for Mike, because he tours as "The Beach Boys" mostly with "non-Beach Boys", and the sidemen sing a ton of the lead vocals.

It isn't super-duper common for a *group* to hand off a ton of leads to "non-official members." They usually bring those other newer members in as "official" members (e.g. Chicago, Journey, Boston, etc.).

Yes, on occasion groups (or even "solo" artists) hand off lead parts to backing band members. Foskett was singing "Little GTO" with the Beach Boys back in the 80s. Even McCartney had his backing guys singing a few lines on "I've Got a Feeling."

But Mike and Bruce are regularly presented as "The Beach Boys" in its official capacity as a touring band, and thus the (correct) assumption even on the part of directors/editors on TV shows is that everybody else is in the backing band, thus you get stuff like the camera staying honed in on Mike (or Bruce, or even Stamos) instead of the other guys.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 05, 2018, 09:58:35 AM
I was pleasantly surprised.  The vocal sound was pretty strong...the best of all of the 'acts' I thought.  I wondered what they did to enhance Mike's power and tone...  It worked.

Quibbles?  Why wouldn't they put the camera on Jeff when he was singing key parts of Kokomo?  Looked stupid...amateurish.  Obviously a poor production idea.  Why send John Cowsill packing in order to put 'who's-his-arse' on the drums?  Just let him play the guitar...or some bongos.  Jimmy isn't good at singing harmonies.  As I have said for years...'speechifying' ain't Mike's strong suit.  It never has been.  Stumbling through his wee accepting of the award 'blurt' was pretty iffy...and he forgot to include Blondie and Ricky.

All in all though?  W A Y  better than last year's debacle.  Hey!!!  I gotta tell the truth. ;)

It seemed a little harried on stage for the award presentation. I wonder if they were behind? We're the fireworks supposed to start during the set?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 05, 2018, 10:38:27 AM
Just watched...seemed like Mike was desperately trying to read a prompter that was too far away.

I'm pretty sure they sang with a recording of themselves. The harmonies were thick in a duplication kinda way. As previously mentioned, there were also some moments were it was easily noticeable that there were "two Mike Loves" singing at the same time.

WAY better than last year...but truly, jut the same old shlock.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on July 05, 2018, 01:18:08 PM
From the articles I've read, the fireworks are independent of the concert, so the National Park Service can set them off whenever they wish.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 05, 2018, 07:04:54 PM
I was actually surprised to see Mike kind of stumble over his acceptance speech when Stamos gave him that award. I like that Mike accepted it for and named his original bandmates, but I didn't expect him to A. need to read from a teleprompter (if that's what he was doing) for such a short thank-you type of speech since his everyday gig is an emcee/frontman, and B. have trouble delivering the speech. It happens to everyone but Mike seemed off.

I can't put my finger on what it was, but I thought listening live last night that the performance was enhanced, I also think I did hear multiple Mike vocals hitting the live mix simultaneously and perhaps one was corrected, and the instrumental mix sounded really, really full (and I don't mean the orchestra, I mean the core band). Compare that sound to some of the recent June 2018 concert clips on YouTube.

I thought it felt like the set was clipped a little too tight, as in it felt rushed especially cutting right to Fun Fun Fun in the middle of Kokomo, and it didn't feel like the group was given enough time in the set. These things always run long, but still...we got basically one full song from the band. Or 2 if you count Fun Fun Fun which is short anyway.

Jimmy Buffett...I don't think he added much if anything. Him being barefoot was a little odd, at least Bruce could have lent Jimmy a pair of his Docksiders to put on his feet.  ;D

Anyway - The songs are the legacy. People love them and always will. It's music that heals and makes people happy. A special tip of the hat as well to John Stamos for all the work he does for veterans groups and his other charities - A class act in that regard, and I mean that sincerely. Kudos to John Stamos.




Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 06, 2018, 06:19:34 AM
2guitarfool2002: Well said. Agree with each point. It didn't seem characteristic of chatty Mike to stumble indeed.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on July 06, 2018, 06:35:09 AM
I don't think there's any need to pile on given that any time Stamos and Mike are involved, and it's a TV show conforming to all the trappings of such, it's *always* pretty painful and not the best presentation for anyone.

That being said, we've set the bar pretty low if it's now a case of "well, not as bad as last year!"

I guess I appreciate Mike mentioning the other band members when accepting the punch bowl, err, award, but really that would, under any circumstance concerning an "award" for the band, be the most basic courtesy he *should* be offering.

As for the "live" performances, they did indeed appear less obviously canned compared to last year. I still think some futzing is going on, but at least some of the vocals and possibly some of the instrumentation appeared to be partially live.  Mike's band, while kind of a bit diluted (I'm pretty sure all three of Bonhomme, the sax player, and the new bass player are all the same guy), puts on a professional show. But these types of shows are never even a good presentation for his band.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on July 06, 2018, 07:51:15 AM
There was certainly nothing on the show this year that was epic enough to inspire this Vic Berger video from last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdYbymafUd0


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on July 06, 2018, 03:13:47 PM
July 15th show has been cancelled "due to logistical issues."

https://www.wane.com/news/local-news/beach-boys-cancel-fort-wayne-show/1286789993


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 06, 2018, 03:57:07 PM
That inspired me to check up on their schedule...which led me to this interesting discovery:

November 16th in Chattanooga, the 'boys' will launch their "Reason for the Season Christmas Tour"...I know Mike and Bruce have done Christmas shows before...but have they ever advertised a specifically themed Christmas tour...coincidentally at the same exact time Brian & Al are doing their own?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 06, 2018, 04:09:11 PM
July 15th show has been cancelled "due to logistical issues."

https://www.wane.com/news/local-news/beach-boys-cancel-fort-wayne-show/1286789993

That inspired me to check up on their schedule...which led me to this interesting discovery:

November 16th in Chattanooga, the 'boys' will launch their "Reason for the Season Christmas Tour"...I know Mike and Bruce have done Christmas shows before...but have they ever advertised a specifically themed Christmas tour...coincidentally at the same exact time Brian & Al are doing their own?

Maybe they had to cancel to hold emergency auditions to find a dancing Santa Claus to add to Mike's Christmas shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 06, 2018, 04:35:34 PM
July 15th show has been cancelled "due to logistical issues."

https://www.wane.com/news/local-news/beach-boys-cancel-fort-wayne-show/1286789993

That inspired me to check up on their schedule...which led me to this interesting discovery:

November 16th in Chattanooga, the 'boys' will launch their "Reason for the Season Christmas Tour"...I know Mike and Bruce have done Christmas shows before...but have they ever advertised a specifically themed Christmas tour...coincidentally at the same exact time Brian & Al are doing their own?

Maybe they had to cancel to hold emergency auditions to find a dancing Santa Claus to add to Mike's Christmas shows.

More likely a slew of dancing Mrs. Clauses...surely Mike will be the big man in red...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 06, 2018, 04:39:46 PM
Unleash the santa daddy... :o


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on July 06, 2018, 05:37:23 PM
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Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Dave in KC on July 07, 2018, 02:03:46 AM
I was actually surprised to see Mike kind of stumble over his acceptance speech when Stamos gave him that award. I like that Mike accepted it for and named his original bandmates, but I didn't expect him to A. need to read from a teleprompter (if that's what he was doing) for such a short thank-you type of speech since his everyday gig is an emcee/frontman, and B. have trouble delivering the speech. It happens to everyone but Mike seemed off.

I can't put my finger on what it was, but I thought listening live last night that the performance was enhanced, I also think I did hear multiple Mike vocals hitting the live mix simultaneously and perhaps one was corrected, and the instrumental mix sounded really, really full (and I don't mean the orchestra, I mean the core band). Compare that sound to some of the recent June 2018 concert clips on YouTube.

I thought it felt like the set was clipped a little too tight, as in it felt rushed especially cutting right to Fun Fun Fun in the middle of Kokomo, and it didn't feel like the group was given enough time in the set. These things always run long, but still...we got basically one full song from the band. Or 2 if you count Fun Fun Fun which is short anyway.



Jimmy Buffett...I don't think he added much if anything. Him being barefoot was a little odd, at least Bruce could have lent Jimmy a pair of his Docksiders to put on his feet.  ;D

Anyway - The songs are the legacy. People love them and always will. It's music that heals and makes people happy. A special tip of the hat as well to John Stamos for all the work he does for veterans groups and his other charities - A class act in that regard, and I mean that sincerely. Kudos to John Stamos.

NOTE: JB does all his concerts barefoot.





Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 07, 2018, 05:29:08 AM
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Mike needs to wear this on the christmas tour! :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Debbie KL on July 07, 2018, 10:07:59 AM
July 15th show has been cancelled "due to logistical issues."

https://www.wane.com/news/local-news/beach-boys-cancel-fort-wayne-show/1286789993

That inspired me to check up on their schedule...which led me to this interesting discovery:

November 16th in Chattanooga, the 'boys' will launch their "Reason for the Season Christmas Tour"...I know Mike and Bruce have done Christmas shows before...but have they ever advertised a specifically themed Christmas tour...coincidentally at the same exact time Brian & Al are doing their own?

Maybe they had to cancel to hold emergency auditions to find a dancing Santa Claus to add to Mike's Christmas shows.

 :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on July 07, 2018, 12:35:47 PM
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Mike needs to wear this on the christmas tour! :lol

Ahh, memories of being banned for a stretch only this time it's a sweatshirt.  :lol :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 07, 2018, 12:57:05 PM
That was a pretty strange photo with “family” members! :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on July 07, 2018, 05:54:05 PM
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Mike needs to wear this on the christmas tour! :lol

Ahh, memories of being banned for a stretch only this time it's a sweatshirt.  :lol :lol

Hey We gotta laugh about it now... all we can do :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on July 07, 2018, 07:05:47 PM

Old water under the bridge, Billy.  ;)




Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 08, 2018, 10:10:39 AM
OSD is the man!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Debbie KL on July 08, 2018, 12:02:12 PM
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Mike needs to wear this on the christmas tour! :lol

Ahh, memories of being banned for a stretch only this time it's a sweatshirt.  :lol :lol

Hey We gotta laugh about it now... all we can do :lol

Yep  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on July 10, 2018, 02:10:18 PM
It's interesting to me that in many (not all, but a handful) of TV performances since C50, Bruce has gone without a keyboard, as another frontman. Does he do this on TV at events such as the Capitol Fourth 2018, Memorial Day 2016, The View 2016, etc to draw attention that he is another "real" Beach Boy? That would be my guess. To distinguish him from the band.

I know singing BBs harmony is no easy task, but Bruce always looks like he doesn't have much to do!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 10, 2018, 09:29:31 PM
It's interesting to me that in many (not all, but a handful) of TV performances since C50, Bruce has gone without a keyboard, as another frontman. Does he do this on TV at events such as the Capitol Fourth 2018, Memorial Day 2016, The View 2016, etc to draw attention that he is another "real" Beach Boy? That would be my guess. To distinguish him from the band.

I know singing BBs harmony is no easy task, but Bruce always looks like he doesn't have much to do!

I've noticed that Bruce's keyboard is MIA when they are lip-synching to one degree or another. I've also noticed that when he plays live, he is often playing vocal cues on very soft electric piano sounds, or simply playing nothing at all (this is usually the case...) So, I'm sure they see no need for the additional expense. Also, I wouldn't consider him an additional frontman. Frankly, he's a backup singer at that point.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on July 11, 2018, 08:36:03 AM
Yeah, whenever I hear Bruce playing it's always the DX7-esque electric piano patch. When it stands out, it's a little cheesy, but when it sits right in the mix (as it usually does), it probably adds a nice cushion, that the audience can't really distinguish. Similar to Al's guitar playing in Brian's shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on July 12, 2018, 06:38:07 PM
Bruce’s piano is only live for about 3 songs in the set


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on July 13, 2018, 06:36:34 AM
Bruce said to Howie Edelson in an interview (which can be looked up here) that he (Bruce) saw his keyboard at live shows as mainly an accompaniment for himself, and also mentioned that the audience would really only notice anything if Bruce's keyboard dropped out of the live mix.

There's no question Bruce is a good piano player. So it's worth noting that any criticism of his prominence or lack thereof at live shows either in terms of what he's playing or how audible it is, has to do not with his ability, but with his practical usefulness musically at live shows. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on July 13, 2018, 06:56:44 AM
Scott Totten told me that Bruce's keyboard is always on and that his keyboard is the "main sound" in Darlin' and the chorus and bridge of Good Vibrations.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 20, 2018, 01:21:45 PM
The band will play Fleet Week in CA.  Sept 1st in front of USS IOWA, 250 S Harbor Blvd., San Pedro.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on July 20, 2018, 03:09:32 PM
Any recent setlists to post?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 23, 2018, 07:57:58 PM
Any recent setlists to post?

Something close to the following;

Do it again
Surfin' Safari
Catch a Wave
Hawaii
Surfin' USA
Surfer Girl
Getcha Back
Good to my Baby
Darlin'
Why do Fools
You're So Good to Me
When I Grow Up
All the Love in Paris
Don't Worry Baby
Little Deuce Coupe
409
Shut Down
I Get Around
God Only Knows
Pisces Brothers
Unleash the Love
Sloop
WIBN
California Girls
All Summer Long
Rhonda
GV
Barbara Ann
Kokomo
Fun Fun Fun


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: marcella27 on July 23, 2018, 08:09:16 PM
I saw them on Saturday at Kemptville Music Festival and the setlist on Setlist FM is accurate, I believe, as is Juice Brohnston's post immediately above. No surprises, but it was a festival show so I wasn't expecting any.

The band sounded good but Mike's voice is really not what it used to be. It's to be expected from a 76 year old man (only Al seems to defy time) but the fact remains, it's not great. For all the criticism I have read of Brian's singing, I can't say Mike's is any better at all. Again, I don't mean this with any disrespect as it's a natural aspect of aging, and Mike and Bruce's punishing tour schedule can't help. Just my observation having seem them a couple of times since C50.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on July 23, 2018, 11:02:37 PM
Any recent setlists to post?

Something close to the following;

Do it again
Surfin' Safari
Catch a Wave
Hawaii
Surfin' USA
Surfer Girl
Getcha Back
Good to my Baby
Darlin'
Why do Fools
You're So Good to Me
When I Grow Up
All the Love in Paris
Don't Worry Baby
Little Deuce Coupe
409
Shut Down
I Get Around
God Only Knows
Pisces Brothers
Unleash the Love
Sloop
WIBN
California Girls
All Summer Long
Rhonda
GV
Barbara Ann
Kokomo
Fun Fun Fun

Thanks. In previous years, I have passed on the Mike and Bruce show, but I think it's time to see them. Sadly, they don't seem to be in our area this year. A friend saw them at the fair last summer, and was very impressed. Glad they are doing some of the new songs, too.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on July 24, 2018, 06:31:05 AM
For all of Mike's talk in his autobiography of giving up dairy (comically seeming more wistful and upset about giving up his "beloved Tillamook Cheddar Cheese" than ending the reunion in 2012) in order to help his voice, he really would be in better voice if he didn't tour all year, every year. He takes a few weeks off here and there, sometimes a bit more time off in the winter months.

But this business of doing 23 shows in 25 night during the summer and all of that, it absolutely shreds his voice. He'd probably be in surprisingly pretty good voice if he toured less.

I don't think it's a total coincidence that he was in comparatively good voice during C50; when the tour started at the end of April 2012, he had been mostly off the road for a solid four months.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 24, 2018, 07:42:31 AM
The Reason For The Season tour will hit Wilmington NC, at the aptly named Wilson Center, Tuesday December 18th at 7:30.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on July 24, 2018, 08:07:05 AM
Considering the long-term absence of any Wilsons in the band, I'd go with "ironically named" instead.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 24, 2018, 08:25:40 AM
Considering the long-term absence of any Wilsons in the band, I'd go with "ironically named" instead.

LOL ya u could make an argument. Mike's half Wilson, remember!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 24, 2018, 08:26:54 AM
Some nice sounding clips on You Tube of last nights performance in front of 30,000 plus in Montreal.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: marcella27 on July 24, 2018, 09:50:12 AM
Some nice sounding clips on You Tube of last nights performance in front of 30,000 plus in Montreal.

This article says that Mike made a joke about there being no Trump in Canada. Then again, it also describes Pisces Brother as a "superb" song, so maybe we should take it with a grain of salt. https://m.quebec.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/07/24/the-beach-boys-surfer-habilement-sur-la-vague-des-belles-annees_a_23488355/

One more comment: they HAVE to stop doing the schtick with bringing girls up on stage to dance during Barbara Ann. Especially when Totten plays guitar while it's being held by a hot girl...come on, it's 2018. This is cheesy and embarrassing and sexist. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on July 24, 2018, 05:33:24 PM
Coincidence that Mike is really pumping up this Christmas tour the same year Brian and Al are doing their first one? Absolutely not . Fits right into the Love competitiveness / perceived inferiority.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on July 24, 2018, 06:27:08 PM
Some nice sounding clips on You Tube of last nights performance in front of 30,000 plus in Montreal.

This article says that Mike made a joke about there being no Trump in Canada. Then again, it also describes Pisces Brother as a "superb" song, so maybe we should take it with a grain of salt. https://m.quebec.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/07/24/the-beach-boys-surfer-habilement-sur-la-vague-des-belles-annees_a_23488355/

One more comment: they HAVE to stop doing the schtick with bringing girls up on stage to dance during Barbara Ann. Especially when Totten plays guitar while it's being held by a hot girl...come on, it's 2018. This is cheesy and embarrassing and sexist. 
Well i sure wouldn't mind if a gorgeous girl joined me onstage for a song every night.
But if it would make you happy, we could have a good looking guy join Scott for the solo some nights.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 26, 2018, 09:57:11 AM
Review of last night's show in Columbus Dispatch

Mike Love brought his Beach Boys to the Ohio State Fair last night. They may or may not have feasted on corn dogs, turkey legs and elephant ears. The packed house in the Celeste Center last night can testify this morning, though, that the eight-piece band lit the opening night of the Fair with a celebration of eternal, California summer.

It mattered little that Beach Boy mastermind and composer Brian Wilson wasn’t along for the outing. (Wilson has spent far more time during the band’s 57-year career off the road, rather than on it with the band.) Last night it was irrelevant, too, that the other two founding Wilsons are deceased, fifth founding member Al Jardine was absent, and that Bruce Johnston—who joined in 1965--was the only other near-original.

The songs—mostly penned by Brian Wilson—and their performance, stood the test of time.

From the opening cluster of surf-related early material, the band nailed the trademark harmonies, accurately delivered the sometimes tricky arrangements, and kept the energy high. It helped that songs such as “Do It Again,” “Surfin’ Safari,” “Catch A Wave,” and “Surfin’ U.S.A.” flowed together naturally, building a dance fever that had the audience frugging in its seats. The video screen that rolled a mini-documentary before the set continued with non-stop clips of attractive young people frolicking in the ocean.

“Surfer Girl,” the first of the band’s dreamy classics was sweet and warm, its rich harmonies vibrant and alive. “Darlin’” and “Wouldn’t It Be Nice” similarly floated on the glow of their harmony parts. Fabulous falsettos from musical director and guitarist Scott Totten and lead vocals from guitarist Jeffrey Foskett were terrific substitutes for the original singers.


Totten’s guitar solos on the surf numbers smoked.

When the band entered less familiar territory, though, the brightness dulled a bit. The unremarkable “All The Love In Paris” and “Unleash The Love,” from Love’s 2017 solo album, sharply contrasted with the ambition and sophistication of Wilson’s songs. “Pisces Brothers,” a tribute to George Harrison and a remembrance of time spent in India with the Beatles, was most satisfying for its memories. On this and a couple other quiet spotlights, Love’s singing revealed the challenged intonation of his 77 years.

Nonetheless, a songbook identified as much by its tight harmonies as its brilliant songwriting was finely represented last night. The songs stood for themselves; the vocals, shared with Love and Johnston by Foskett, Totten, Love’s son Christian (a passionate reading of “God Only Knows”), and fabulous drummer John Cowsill (an electrifying stand-in for Blondie Chaplin on “Sail On, Sailor”), were proud readings of the originals.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on July 26, 2018, 11:10:13 AM
Great review!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on July 26, 2018, 01:08:35 PM
Some nice sounding clips on You Tube of last nights performance in front of 30,000 plus in Montreal.

This article says that Mike made a joke about there being no Trump in Canada. Then again, it also describes Pisces Brother as a "superb" song, so maybe we should take it with a grain of salt. https://m.quebec.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/07/24/the-beach-boys-surfer-habilement-sur-la-vague-des-belles-annees_a_23488355/

One more comment: they HAVE to stop doing the schtick with bringing girls up on stage to dance during Barbara Ann. Especially when Totten plays guitar while it's being held by a hot girl...come on, it's 2018. This is cheesy and embarrassing and sexist. 
Well i sure wouldn't mind if a gorgeous girl joined me onstage for a song every night.
But if it would make you happy, we could have a good looking guy join Scott for the solo some nights.


Nothing to do with guys or girls. It’s tacky and it’s continued moves like this since the 80s that keep the BB as B list entertainers on the party / state fair route when their musical output matches the A listers. Some fans are fine with that others are not.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on July 26, 2018, 01:15:49 PM
I've always found this gross and tacky (pic from only about a month ago, June 22):

(http://thisisreno.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Beach-Boys323-400x600.jpg)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: marcella27 on July 26, 2018, 06:50:13 PM
Some nice sounding clips on You Tube of last nights performance in front of 30,000 plus in Montreal.

This article says that Mike made a joke about there being no Trump in Canada. Then again, it also describes Pisces Brother as a "superb" song, so maybe we should take it with a grain of salt. https://m.quebec.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/07/24/the-beach-boys-surfer-habilement-sur-la-vague-des-belles-annees_a_23488355/

One more comment: they HAVE to stop doing the schtick with bringing girls up on stage to dance during Barbara Ann. Especially when Totten plays guitar while it's being held by a hot girl...come on, it's 2018. This is cheesy and embarrassing and sexist. 
Well i sure wouldn't mind if a gorgeous girl joined me onstage for a song every night.
But if it would make you happy, we could have a good looking guy join Scott for the solo some nights.


Nothing to do with guys or girls. It’s tacky and it’s continued moves like this since the 80s that keep the BB as B list entertainers on the party / state fair route when their musical output matches the A listers. Some fans are fine with that others are not.

Yep.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on August 01, 2018, 07:10:18 AM
Review

https://www.nwitimes.com/the-beach-boys-present-beloved-hits-in-concert/article_e0791c29-f93e-594f-beeb-f9fda594cb4a.html


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on August 01, 2018, 07:20:38 AM
The Beach Boys bring some sunshine to a rainy night in Alton.

https://www.riverbender.com/articles/details/iconic-beach-boys-entertain-the-house-despite-of-damp-night-on-alton-riverfront-29800.cfm


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on August 13, 2018, 06:30:44 AM
Cape Cod Times reporting Good Vibes

http://www.capecodtimes.com/news/20180812/beach-boys-bring-magic-in-waves


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 13, 2018, 07:12:55 PM
Cape Cod Times reporting Good Vibes

http://www.capecodtimes.com/news/20180812/beach-boys-bring-magic-in-waves


Nice of them to mention how Brian Wilson and CARL JARDINE are touring in Europe right now, after mentioning how "everyone knows the Beach Boys' story"...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on August 14, 2018, 08:41:26 AM
Cape Cod Times reporting Good Vibes

http://www.capecodtimes.com/news/20180812/beach-boys-bring-magic-in-waves


Nice of them to mention how Brian Wilson and CARL JARDINE are touring in Europe right now, after mentioning how "everyone knows the Beach Boys' story"...

It's amazing how many factual errors appear in these type of articles. Wrong names. Wrong names put to pictures. Always just basic 'checkable' flubs.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: acedecade75 on August 14, 2018, 09:00:17 PM
Cape Cod Times reporting Good Vibes

http://www.capecodtimes.com/news/20180812/beach-boys-bring-magic-in-waves


Nice of them to mention how Brian Wilson and CARL JARDINE are touring in Europe right now, after mentioning how "everyone knows the Beach Boys' story"...

I remember one time seeing that "Brian Johnson" was playing on the tour. :)

It's amazing how many factual errors appear in these type of articles. Wrong names. Wrong names put to pictures. Always just basic 'checkable' flubs.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: rickyroma on August 16, 2018, 01:23:41 PM
newbie to the board, but big favor to ask!  I am bringing my 3 yo son to the mike/bruce beach boys show this saturday and was curious as to how long the concerts have been running.  Setlists are long but I know a lot of these songs are short.  Looks to be an intermission as well.  this would be VERY helpful in terms of planning the lil guy's naps etc. 

I think it is tough to call it the beach boys as well, but my son won't care as long as he gets to shake his behind to surf songs  ;D


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 16, 2018, 02:14:21 PM
newbie to the board, but big favor to ask!  I am bringing my 3 yo son to the mike/bruce beach boys show this saturday and was curious as to how long the concerts have been running.  Setlists are long but I know a lot of these songs are short.  Looks to be an intermission as well.  this would be VERY helpful in terms of planning the lil guy's naps etc. 

I think it is tough to call it the beach boys as well, but my son won't care as long as he gets to shake his behind to surf songs  ;D

This link on setlist.fm will show you past setlists for Mike's band. That might help gauge how long your show might be:

https://www.setlist.fm/setlists/the-beach-boys-3d6c17b.html

Looks like the longer shows go into the 35-40 song range and feature an intermission, so I'm guessing around two hours give or take. Some shows (festivals, fairs, etc.) are shorter and sometimes don't have intermissions.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 16, 2018, 07:00:32 PM
newbie to the board, but big favor to ask!  I am bringing my 3 yo son to the mike/bruce beach boys show this saturday and was curious as to how long the concerts have been running.  Setlists are long but I know a lot of these songs are short.  Looks to be an intermission as well.  this would be VERY helpful in terms of planning the lil guy's naps etc. 

I think it is tough to call it the beach boys as well, but my son won't care as long as he gets to shake his behind to surf songs  ;D

In the past, it seems they've played longer shows at Ocean Grove. I would definitely expect it veer beyond 2.5 hours.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Uncle Walter on August 17, 2018, 09:50:33 AM
Saw the M&B Boys last night, my (admittedly negative) thoughts:

- The band and the quality of the show across the setlist couldn't have been more inconsistent. Some songs sounded fantastic (Darlin, Ole Betsy) but most songs sounded ragged and sloppy
- The tempos felt like they dragged a LOT... When I Grow Up for example felt like a dirge.
- Mike's voice is in decent shape for a guy his age but there were definite rough spots. He has no business singing Rhonda in its original key, for example.
- Mike's solo material sticks out like a sore thumb in the set and is clearly worse than the other songs in the show
- Bruce's harmonies were noticeably weak, but he sounded great on Disney Girls
- Cowsill and Totten stole the show, Cowsill with his rendition of Darlin' and Totten with Ole Betsy and Warmth of the Sun
- The band just felt under-rehearsed, which I know can't possibly be the case since they constantly tour the same material
- If you can pump Dennis' voice in for Do You Wanna Dance, you can definitely pump in Carl's for God Only Knows. Christian Love doesn't do an awful job but come on
- Foskett was not there. Is he not with the band anymore?
- Brian's band is just worlds above Mike's, and it's not even close. Better harmonies, better arrangements, better ingredients, better pizza, Papa John's
- The song the crowd got most excited for was Kokomo, sadly
- I'll add more as I think of it but honestly I'd give the show a 3.5/10. I'm glad I got to see Mike and Bruce in person, but it was overall a poor performance


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 17, 2018, 10:01:25 AM
Looking at some YouTube videos of last night's show, it's hard to tell, but someone is there in place of Foskett. My best guess based on height and posture is Randell Kirsch, who already subbed on a few dates early this year. It looks like Kirsch or whomever is also probably playing Foskett's guitar, so maybe it was a last-second thing. So it might just be a short temporary absence for Foskett. I dunno.

I see videos of Mike's show from 8/12 and Foskett is there.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on August 17, 2018, 11:24:25 AM
Yes, it appears to be Randell Kirsch filling in for Jeff Foskett.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Worzel Gummidge on August 17, 2018, 05:45:44 PM
Mike Love totally hit on my friend while on stage at the Connecticut show the other night (Aug. 15)!! Other people from the audience even came up to her after the show and congratulated her for catching his eye in such a blatantly obvious way lol. I would’ve been jealous of this attention she was getting from Dr. Love, but he also gave me a high five and let me sing a quick line on ‘Barbara Ann’ into the mic while we were dancing by the stage! Anyway, I wonder if this kind of thing is a common occurance... whatever the case, I found it incredibly amusing and it makes for a great memory!!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on August 17, 2018, 09:07:13 PM
Don't get replies saying Christian sounds *just* like Carl. He didn't & doesn't. Btw, fans who didn't catch Mike's special attention, isn't it luck, in fact? Why would anybody going to enjoy show be interested in catching band's attention? If you don't, you don't. What's the big deal. Fans shouldn't be interested in chatting with band etc. It doesn't make sense. Show is seeing/ hearing music. Am I right or am I right?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on August 18, 2018, 05:30:58 AM
I don't comment much here anymore because of the anti-Mike bias in the establishment and some of its posters (I much prefer to hang around with fans who respect that fact that both Brian and Mike were essential to the band success and can enjoy their both being out on the road doing their thing), but over the last 30 days, I've seen Brian/Al twice and Mike/Bruce three times, and going again to the latter's group tonight, so I feel I can comment on the state of both bands pretty fairly.

Mike/Bruce:

GOOD:

-Really tight lately.
-Cowsill drums like a madman.
-Really fun, energetic, lively when you're near the action.
-In my opinion, when you're sitting in your seat, Mike sounds pretty identifiable, like his 60s self.
-Bruce singing Disney Girls is always a nice part of the show.
-Great visuals behind them.
-I think Jeff fits more to the M&B show than to Brian, I like his voice better in this blend. He's apparently getting married again, so Randell Kirsch is filling in temporarily, and of course, he knows his stuff!

-NOT SO GOOD:

-At the shows I've seen, the setlist has shrunk a bit. 32, 34 and 34 songs. To be fair, this probably has more to do with the venues and restrictions.
-Pisces Bros needs to go. I can understand wanting to plug the new album, but just All The Love In Paris or Unleash The Love would serve this purpose.
-Why Do Fools Fall In Love & California Dreamin' - would love to see them replace these with something a little deeper in the Beach Boys catalog.


Brian/Al:

GOOD:

-It's BRIAN WILSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Band is always super duper duper great. Jim works perfectly in Nelson's former role.
-Al sounds fab as always.
-Respect and reverence for the music that you can palpably feel, more than the M&B band.

NOT SO GOOD:

-After 10+ times of seeing it, very very tired of Blondie's schtick. It takes up too much of the show.
-Brian doesn't sing enough.
-This is very understandable, but Brian's is singing the weakest I've ever heard him. Compare it to even the 2012 shows and the difference is audible.
-Too many car and surf cuts. Setlists from previous tours always spiced it up a lot more (in regards to non-PS sets). I want to hear more songs that are identifiable as Brian Wilson gems, not what M&B play to please the masses.


My recommendation? They are both awesome shows to see if you can, for different reasons. I've had a blast this summer because of all of these gentlemen.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on August 18, 2018, 06:46:00 AM
I couldn't agree more with your summary of each show.

I really don't understand the criticism of Mike's voice. I think his voice has held up really well for someone his age. Definitely not like Al's, but when you go to see Mike Love's Beach Boys show Mike's lead vocals sound pretty great in my opinion. I've seen The Beach Boys in concert every year since 2014, and I've never been disappointed. Cowsill's drumming is worth price of admission alone. But the harmonies are perfect, the band is tight, and most importantly, the show is fun. Even though we know it's not really THE BEACH BOYS, Mike and his crew put on a perfect Beach Boys show.

I love seeing Brian too. His band plays like a beautiful pop orchestra, whereas Mike's band is more rock n roll. Brian's band conveys the beauty of The Beach Boys music, whereas Mike's band conveys the fun of The Beach Boys music.

To each his own I suppose. I love both shows. I didn't get the chance to see a C50 show, but from what I can tell from videos, it combined the best of Mike and Brian's shows into one. Wish I could have seen one of those shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Worzel Gummidge on August 18, 2018, 07:21:09 AM
Btw, fans who didn't catch Mike's special attention, isn't it luck, in fact? Why would anybody going to enjoy show be interested in catching band's attention? If you don't, you don't. What's the big deal. Fans shouldn't be interested in chatting with band etc. It doesn't make sense. Show is seeing/ hearing music. Am I right or am I right?
Hmm, not sure I entirely agree. We didn’t go to the show expecting to get close to the stage at all, so that being said, my entire story was just icing on top of the Beach Boys cake. Given the chance, who wouldn’t want to be inches from a rocking group of highly respectable living legends? To me, concerts are more than just ‘seeing and hearing’, it’s about the whole experience. And speaking for performing artists, it’s always a great feeling to connect with the audience. After 50+ years, I’d say Mike’s gotten quite creative with that!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on August 18, 2018, 01:08:01 PM
Looks like Ike is currently filling in for Foskett.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kotg4tj8UfQ


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on August 18, 2018, 05:28:47 PM
Mike Love totally hit on my friend while on stage at the Connecticut show the other night (Aug. 15)!! Other people from the audience even came up to her after the show and congratulated her for catching his eye in such a blatantly obvious way lol. I would’ve been jealous of this attention she was getting from Dr. Love, but he also gave me a high five and let me sing a quick line on ‘Barbara Ann’ into the mic while we were dancing by the stage! Anyway, I wonder if this kind of thing is a common occurance... whatever the case, I found it incredibly amusing and it makes for a great memory!!

Very common. Same tasteless display a few days later.

https://youtu.be/epSoNfR5jbo


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on August 18, 2018, 08:04:51 PM
Mike Love totally hit on my friend while on stage at the Connecticut show the other night (Aug. 15)!! Other people from the audience even came up to her after the show and congratulated her for catching his eye in such a blatantly obvious way lol. I would’ve been jealous of this attention she was getting from Dr. Love, but he also gave me a high five and let me sing a quick line on ‘Barbara Ann’ into the mic while we were dancing by the stage! Anyway, I wonder if this kind of thing is a common occurance... whatever the case, I found it incredibly amusing and it makes for a great memory!!

Very common. Same tasteless display a few days later.

https://youtu.be/epSoNfR5jbo

Yup, the same old tacky, legacy trashing antics by the dirty old man himself(myKe luHv) along with his crew of dependents who act out his twisted fantasies. Such a pathetic ending to a once treasured band.  ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on August 18, 2018, 08:06:03 PM
Mike sounds good in those clips. I wasn’t able to go when they were close to me this week, had a conflict .


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 18, 2018, 10:55:22 PM
Mike Love totally hit on my friend while on stage at the Connecticut show the other night (Aug. 15)!! Other people from the audience even came up to her after the show and congratulated her for catching his eye in such a blatantly obvious way lol. I would’ve been jealous of this attention she was getting from Dr. Love, but he also gave me a high five and let me sing a quick line on ‘Barbara Ann’ into the mic while we were dancing by the stage! Anyway, I wonder if this kind of thing is a common occurance... whatever the case, I found it incredibly amusing and it makes for a great memory!!

Very common. Same tasteless display a few days later.

https://youtu.be/epSoNfR5jbo

Yup, the same old tacky, legacy trashing antics by the dirty old man himself(myKe luHv) along with his crew of dependents who act out his twisted fantasies. Such a pathetic ending to a once treasured band.  ::)
I think we'd love Mike if he was a broken down old man who had to be carried to his microphone at center stage, and just sat there looking miserable as he sang the greatest hits for the billionth time.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on August 19, 2018, 03:26:55 AM
Huh? ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on August 19, 2018, 03:28:37 AM
Lonely Luhvster.... ;)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Uncle Walter on August 19, 2018, 08:28:20 AM
-After 10+ times of seeing it, very very tired of Blondie's schtick. It takes up too much of the show.
-Brian doesn't sing enough.
-This is very understandable, but Brian's is singing the weakest I've ever heard him. Compare it to even the 2012 shows and the difference is audible.
-Too many car and surf cuts. Setlists from previous tours always spiced it up a lot more (in regards to non-PS sets). I want to hear more songs that are identifiable as Brian Wilson gems, not what M&B play to please the masses.
Totally agree. Blondie's gimmick wears very thin after a while.

Brian's voice has gone really south since 2015 or so. The No Pier Pressure shows were the last time Brian's voice was in good shape for the shows. It was gradually declining since the BWPS shows, but the last two or three years of touring have been especially rough. I think this goes hand in hand with Brian taking less of the leads. I'd be more than happy to hear him sing more even in lowered keys, but I'm getting the impression that it's not just the high notes he struggles with but also the breath support.

And on the last thing, also dead on. Brian's show has shifted from a showcase of Brian's best songwriting to a showcase of Beach Boys hits. The thing I keep hearing is that Brian wants a more rock-oriented show with less verbose songs.

I really don't understand the criticism of Mike's voice. I think his voice has held up really well for someone his age. Definitely not like Al's, but when you go to see Mike Love's Beach Boys show Mike's lead vocals sound pretty great in my opinion.
The only time I felt like Mike was struggling vocally was on Rhonda. Otherwise he was solid.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: marcella27 on August 19, 2018, 08:46:16 AM
I've seen both bands a few times in the last years and I would say Brian, Mike and Bruce are all struggling vocally. Al is incredible. 

I saw Mike and Bruce in august 2015, May 2017, August 2017, and July 2018. At the show last month, his singing was just not great. Very very nasal and his singing was quite flat in parts. And I say that trying to be as objective as possible.

I saw Brian in June 2015, a ton of times on the first leg of the PS tour in 2016, and most recently in September 2017. As we all know he has good and not-as-good nights but yes, his singing has declined markedly since C50.

The reality is that singing is very physical and age takes a serious toll. There aren't many singers in their mid- to late-seventies that can compete with their younger voices.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on August 19, 2018, 08:55:06 AM
In case anyone is interested Foskett is out because his daughter is getting married this weekend just saw on his Facebook.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on August 19, 2018, 08:10:29 PM
Anyone catch them on TV today after the Little League game ?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 20, 2018, 07:34:24 AM

And on the last thing, also dead on. Brian's show has shifted from a showcase of Brian's best songwriting to a showcase of Beach Boys hits.

While Brian's setlist hasn't changed a great deal in the last couple years, I'd hardly call it a "hits" set. Beyond including all of "Pet Sounds" at many shows (from which most songs are most assuredly not "hits"), the show has included a number of songs that aren't hits and weren't regulars for decades in BB setlists, such as Little Honda, Salt Lake City, Wake the World, Add Some Music to Your Day, California Saga: California, Feel Flows, Wild Honey. If we go back to the last 3 or so years, we can also include songs like Cotton Fields, Then I Kissed Her, Honkin' Down the Highway, Susie Cincinnati, She Knows Me Too Well, Hushabye, This Whole World, Surf's Up, Busy Doin' Nothin', Girl Don't Tell Me, Drive In, as well as "No Pier Pressure" songs, and that's not touching on the more rare tracks only performed once or a few times like "I'm Broke", etc.

Characterizing the nature of a given Brian Wilson setlist requires a great deal of historical perspective rather than simply what one individual feels are "hits" or "well known" songs. If one wants to argue the setlist has been pretty stagnant for the last couple of years, and to some degree for the last 3-4, I can't disagree with that.

But in terms of an overall historical/setlist perspective, Brian still does a good amount of relative "deep cuts."

Maybe some folks don't remember 1990s Beach Boys setlists, which got VERY stale at various points. Remember how *mind-blowing* that late 1993 "Boxed Set" setlist was?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 20, 2018, 07:38:32 AM
It does indeed look like first Randell Kirsch and then Eichenburger have filled in for Foskett. Seems kind of spur of the moment to require two different replacements and have them playing Foskett's guitars if in fact this was something planned for quite some time. But in any event, it's sounding like it's a short-term thing.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on August 20, 2018, 08:49:38 AM
Good Vibes continue

http://www.sungazette.com/news/top-news/2018/08/the-beach-boys-attract-diverse-crowd-at-series/


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 20, 2018, 11:51:03 AM
I realize it was an *after* game gig, but one can't help compare playing an emptying out little league park to playing major league baseball stadiums in the 80s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Hd9OI9qGY


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on August 20, 2018, 12:46:11 PM
(https://s33.postimg.cc/853r5tr9r/Screen_Shot_2018-08-20_at_3.47.25_PM.png)

"If I told them once I've told them a hundred times, to put Spinal Tap first and puppet show last!"





Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on August 20, 2018, 01:07:04 PM
Not a great look and some odd set list choices for that type of show . The Mike solo track absolutely died a slow death and what a weird one to have his daughter sing WOTS


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocker on August 21, 2018, 11:41:26 AM
Here's another video. It starts at 7 mins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCXlgIXVblc


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 21, 2018, 11:45:53 AM
Here's another video. It starts at 7 mins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCXlgIXVblc

I realize that is just one camera perspective and not optimal quality in audio either, but that was pathetic. Hardly anyone there and zero energy from the crowd whatsoever. All the lead vocals were rough from all the "loves" that afternoon...band seemed tight as usual, but lead vox were falling mad flat all across the board.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on August 21, 2018, 12:17:30 PM
Here's another video. It starts at 7 mins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCXlgIXVblc

I realize that is just one camera perspective and not optimal quality in audio either, but that was pathetic. Hardly anyone there and zero energy from the crowd whatsoever. All the lead vocals were rough from all the "loves" that afternoon...band seemed tight as usual, but lead vox were falling mad flat all across the board.

Ya gotta luHv it. myKe luHv and his band of unknowns (otherwise known as the fake Beach Boys) playing for a rather thin crowd to begin with. Even with them entertaining(?) after the game, they couldn't produce a larger crown than that? Huh? The LL game itself was far more entertaining and the miniature audience looked bored as hell. Just goes to show what the luHvster will do for the old buckaroo. I'm waiting for the day when this is the only type of gig they can get. :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on August 21, 2018, 12:20:32 PM
(https://s33.postimg.cc/853r5tr9r/Screen_Shot_2018-08-20_at_3.47.25_PM.png)

"If I told them once I've told them a hundred times, to put Spinal Tap first and puppet show last!"





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Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on August 21, 2018, 05:24:24 PM
Ambha Love's voice just not my cup of tea. It's not that she sings badly, I don;t know exactly what it is, she always sounds like she's straining. Nails on a blackboard to me.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on August 21, 2018, 05:31:01 PM
Agree, Tony S. That said, she was cute in "Santa Goes To Kokomo". Fun seasonal remake.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on August 21, 2018, 10:04:53 PM
Who thought booking that gig was a good idea?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 21, 2018, 11:12:49 PM
Who thought booking that gig was a good idea?
Probably the person working for Mike who thinks to himself "what can I do to get those bunch of haters over at Smiley Smile going at it again?"
BTW, these "fake Beach Boys" are licensed to perform under that name by...you know it...the real Beach Boys themselves.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 22, 2018, 07:03:53 AM
Who thought booking that gig was a good idea?
Probably the person working for Mike who thinks to himself "what can I do to get those bunch of haters over at Smiley Smile going at it again?"
BTW, these "fake Beach Boys" are licensed to perform under that name by...you know it...the real Beach Boys themselves.

Mike's band is licensed by BRI, which is Brian, Al, Mike, and Carl's estate. Not by any measure quite the same thing as "the real Beach Boys themselves."

The license, as far as we've been told, came from one vote back in 1998/99, a vote that most likely was *not* unanimous, and did not involve non-corporate BB members nor, of course, deceased members.

Nobody at this stage, on this board anyway, seems to *not* understand that Mike's band is licensed by BRI.

That being said, even a cursory understanding/familiarity with the band's history and their comments over the years would tell one that "complicated" would be the best way to describe the other corporate members' attitude towards the license. "Ambivalent at best" would be how I would describe it. I won't go into all the details that I've gone into a thousand times before, but at this stage Mike and "the license" sort of have a common-law marriage that cannot be easily broken by any outsider, and that doesn't have, in 2018, anybody seemingly interested in doing so. Not wanting to pay lawyers thousands if not millions to take a decade to litigate the license issue is far from a unanimous, effervescent endorsement of Mike having the license.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on August 22, 2018, 04:21:00 PM
The license has nothing to do with it. That gig was a disaster


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 23, 2018, 06:48:31 AM
A pro-shot (from the ESPN feed?) segment featuring "Unleash the Love" was posted in the "pro-shot" thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4u-I1Mln2c

Keeping in mind that I'm well aware that Brian and Al have biffed lyrics many times over the years, it's weird and kind of ironic that Mike totally blanks on the words to the *title track* to his *own* solo album in this clip.

Apparently, while even some quite positive reviews of his shows have noted the unremarkable nature of the new solo tracks he performs in concerts, the song appears to be unremarkable enough to Mike himself that he blanked on the words to the title track to his solo album even though he's been performing the song live at most of his concerts for about a year now.

I was also surprised to see a weird attempt to corral many of the small crowd to, for some inexplicable reason, form a big "UNLEASH THE LOVE" sign.

In other news, I believe Foskett is back from his hiatus.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 23, 2018, 10:20:45 PM
A pro-shot (from the ESPN feed?) segment featuring "Unleash the Love" was posted in the "pro-shot" thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4u-I1Mln2c

Keeping in mind that I'm well aware that Brian and Al have biffed lyrics many times over the years, it's weird and kind of ironic that Mike totally blanks on the words to the *title track* to his *own* solo album in this clip.

Apparently, while even some quite positive reviews of his shows have noted the unremarkable nature of the new solo tracks he performs in concerts, the song appears to be unremarkable enough to Mike himself that he blanked on the words to the title track to his solo album even though he's been performing the song live at most of his concerts for about a year now.

I was also surprised to see a weird attempt to corral many of the small crowd to, for some inexplicable reason, form a big "UNLEASH THE LOVE" sign.

In other news, I believe Foskett is back from his hiatus.
Yeah, what a loser Mike Love is! Still trying to push that terrible autotuned album that nobody bought! He can't even remember the lyrics to his own lame songs! He should just stick to songs about surfing, cars, and girls.  >:D


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on August 24, 2018, 03:32:40 PM
Got notice today - Beach Boys in Lafayette, LA, Wed October 3.

Might consider going. Biloxi is closer but a lot more expensive .


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on August 25, 2018, 04:38:00 AM
What a complete embarrassment that video was. Not only is it a bad song it's a bad performance.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on August 25, 2018, 08:09:16 AM
More December dates for Mike and Bruce:
Dec. 4 -- Greenburg, PA -- Palace Theatre
Dec. 13 -- Wilmington, DE -- The Grand


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 25, 2018, 07:57:21 PM
What a complete embarrassment that video was. Not only is it a bad song it's a bad performance.
So maybe what we should do is, contact any potential venues Mike might be talking to, and show them this video. "You want to book the Beach Boys? This is what they look and sound like in 2018!"  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on August 25, 2018, 08:04:04 PM
Mike is struggling... ;)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on August 26, 2018, 12:45:23 AM
Man that Unleash the Love song is so poor. Reminds of something the band in one of those kids programs from the eighties like saved by the bell or california dreams would come up with.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on August 26, 2018, 02:12:31 AM
Usually, judging , say, a Youtube video or a mobile phone capture is unkind to the performer. But this is a well shot, close up clear film and records a song which does not merit the cost of filming. I have never seen ML struggle so. And , blind to the quality level drop it gives the act, when he is licensed to do HUNDREDS of well written tunes on which he used to excel.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 26, 2018, 10:04:23 PM
Usually, judging , say, a Youtube video or a mobile phone capture is unkind to the performer. But this is a well shot, close up clear film and records a song which does not merit the cost of filming. I have never seen ML struggle so. And , blind to the quality level drop it gives the act, when he is licensed to do HUNDREDS of well written tunes on which he used to excel.
Mike needs to give up on promoting his new material; he should take a cue from his famous cousin, just do the oldies, that's all we want to hear.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on August 27, 2018, 09:06:21 AM
Call it my OCD or whatever, but it is odd to me to see someone wearing their own tribute shirt, in this case every time Mike looked down at his hands he'd see his own image staring up at him on those rolled-up sleeves. I don't know...if it's done as humor that's one thing, but the word narcissism comes to mind just the same.

The 80's 90's TV teen band comparison "hey kids, let's put on our own show..." kind of scene is spot-on.  ;D  It seems every teen sitcom or show had an episode where the "kids" decide to form a band, and the resulting music did sound a lot like this. I was thinking too the old Super Bowl halftime shows before major artists started getting the bookings. Up With People, etc.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 27, 2018, 11:40:11 PM
Call it my OCD or whatever, but it is odd to me to see someone wearing their own tribute shirt, in this case every time Mike looked down at his hands he'd see his own image staring up at him on those rolled-up sleeves. I don't know...if it's done as humor that's one thing, but the word narcissism comes to mind just the same.

The 80's 90's TV teen band comparison "hey kids, let's put on our own show..." kind of scene is spot-on.  ;D  It seems every teen sitcom or show had an episode where the "kids" decide to form a band, and the resulting music did sound a lot like this. I was thinking too the old Super Bowl halftime shows before major artists started getting the bookings. Up With People, etc.
Full House had an episode like that. Stephanie starts a band with a couple friends, and they play Ace of Base's hit "The Sign". And not a single Beach Boy in sight.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: the captain on August 28, 2018, 05:09:10 AM
Review of their MN State Fair show last night. Not much love for Love solo material or Stamos’s Forever.

http://www.startribune.com/beach-boys-and-righteous-brothers-thrill-crowds-at-state-fair/491859921/


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on August 28, 2018, 07:19:13 AM
Review of their MN State Fair show last night. Not much love for Love solo material or Stamos’s Forever.

http://www.startribune.com/beach-boys-and-righteous-brothers-thrill-crowds-at-state-fair/491859921/

Love indulged in a few songs from his 2017 solo album, including the forgettable “All the Love in Paris” and “Unleashed Love.”


...Apparently, forgettable enough that the reviewer can't remember the name of the song!   :lol



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 30, 2018, 12:09:54 AM
Review of their MN State Fair show last night. Not much love for Love solo material or Stamos’s Forever.

http://www.startribune.com/beach-boys-and-righteous-brothers-thrill-crowds-at-state-fair/491859921/

Love indulged in a few songs from his 2017 solo album, including the forgettable “All the Love in Paris” and “Unleashed Love.”


...Apparently, forgettable enough that the reviewer can't remember the name of the song!   :lol


:lol
Well, the critic had to show how hip he is by dissing ML solo material. It's in the rock critics code of laws, section 3, paragraph 409.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 30, 2018, 07:01:43 AM
I'd actually say that both Mike's album, as well as his tours in general, get off pretty easy as far as critics go.

Most pieces on both his album when it came out, and his tours/shows in general, get pretty puff-piece-ish reviews.

I don't recall vast swaths of (deserved) bad reviews for "Unleash" last year.

And the pieces on his tours usually consist of the local paper doing a total puff piece prior to the show (to promote it), featuring the same old "why are you so awesome and hard working?" type of questions, and when actual reviews of his shows come out, they usually ignore or don't heavily weigh or criticize the lack of original (still living) band members on stage, or the ratio of backing band members singing leads, etc.

Mike's show is, musically speaking, usually pretty tight and professional. Most criticisms would tend to be concerning the use of the name, the lack of other living members on stage, the number of non-Beach Boys singing leads, etc. So when shows ignore that and just focus on the quality of the singing and playing, the shows deservedly don't get many poor reviews.

Mike's solo stuff has always been the low point of his shows; if he wasn't touring using the "Beach Boys" name, I'd actually probably give him a tiny bit of props for having the motivation to *continue* to make the audience listen to "Pisces Brothers" after numerous years, and to listen to 3 or 4 songs from "Unleash" almost a year after it came out. It's ironic that Mike has been more stubborn about continuing to play stuff from his "new" album than the Beach Boys were back in the 80s and 90s concerning new albums, where usually most songs from a new album would be gone from the setlist in less than a year. They were doing 4-5 songs from BB '85 for instance, but within a few months it was down to just "Getcha Back."

Back to "Unleash"; it deserved *more* poor reviews. It probably benefitted from simply a lack of much attention from the rock press. I'd say any of "Looking Back With Love", "Summer in Paradise", and certainly the 2004 circulating collection of Mike's music, are all much better than "Unleash."


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: the captain on August 30, 2018, 07:24:53 AM

I don't recall vast swaths of (deserved) bad reviews for "Unleash" last year.
...
Back to "Unleash"; it deserved *more* poor reviews. It probably benefitted from simply a lack of much attention from the rock press. I'd say any of "Looking Back With Love", "Summer in Paradise", and certainly the 2004 circulating collection of Mike's music, are all much better than "Unleash."

I think it was mostly ignored, as you say in that latter part of what I quoted. It’s not as if much/any relevant music press liked the piece of sh*t. It was (rightly) ignored as just another irrelevant release.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 04, 2018, 07:58:45 AM
Mike and Bruce will bring the "reason for the season" to the Strathmore in MD on 12/10...Monday night, with an hour drive down, work the next day...and for what? Might wait until the tour kicks off to see what this is all about and consider a ticket then.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on September 06, 2018, 07:31:09 PM
Longer piece
https://www.newjerseystage.com/articles/2018/08/31/unleash-the-love-the-beach-boys-live-at-the-great-auditorium/


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 17, 2018, 06:12:22 PM
Definitely a "no" on the Strathmore for me...they'll be in Baltimore Sunday 12/2 for a 6pm show...still waiting to see what the Christmas show actually looks like...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 17, 2018, 06:23:35 PM
Why torture yourself? ;)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on September 17, 2018, 06:30:45 PM
Why torture yourself? ;)

 :woot :woot :woot


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 17, 2018, 06:42:29 PM
Why torture yourself? ;)

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 17, 2018, 07:11:17 PM
There is only vocal harmony with the BW band... 8)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: jmc on September 17, 2018, 09:02:31 PM
I attended the Mt. Winery show lastnight in the SF Bay area. The crowd was very much into the classics, but rather motionless and with minimal applause for his (Love's) new solo work. I went with a group of casual fans all of which thought the new songs were pretty weak. I thought they were awful. All The Love in Paris being the best out of the three...but still meh.

How many damn songs will he write that includes his last name in the title? Does he think we all believe he's really clever? Does he not realize how lame that is? Again, a group of casual fans I was with (who supplied me with a free ticket) all leaned over and whispered to me...how lame. I can only imagine what Dennis would think.

"All the Love in Paris", "Unleash the Love", and on the way into the venue they were playing random Beach Boy and Mike Love songs, one of which seemed to have the title "Make Love Not War"....I wouldn't know as I wouldn't buy the album.

BTW, it seems very shady to plug your solo album and play three tracks at a show billed as the Beach Boys. Totten's and Cowsil's playing/singing were the highlights lastnight....



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 17, 2018, 09:08:38 PM
There is only vocal harmony with the BW band... 8)

Which I'm delighted to hear at The Kennedy Center on November 5th again. Why are you on this thread if that's all you have to contribute?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Dave in KC on September 17, 2018, 10:20:31 PM
Why torture yourself? ;)

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.

So I'm not the only one who has reported unsolicited verbal abuse from BJ.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on September 18, 2018, 12:02:05 AM
I attended the Mt. Winery show lastnight in the SF Bay area. The crowd was very much into the classics, but rather motionless and with minimal applause for his (Love's) new solo work. I went with a group of casual fans all of which thought the new songs were pretty weak. I thought they were awful. All The Love in Paris being the best out of the three...but still meh.

How many damn songs will he write that includes his last name in the title? Does he think we all believe he's really clever? Does he not realize how lame that is? Again, a group of casual fans I was with (who supplied me with a free ticket) all leaned over and whispered to me...how lame. I can only imagine what Dennis would think.

"All the Love in Paris", "Unleash the Love", and on the way into the venue they were playing random Beach Boy and Mike Love songs, one of which seemed to have the title "Make Love Not War"....I wouldn't know as I wouldn't buy the album.

BTW, it seems very shady to plug your solo album and play three tracks at a show billed as the Beach Boys. Totten's and Cowsil's playing/singing were the highlights lastnight....


Okay, i'll accept that; and Brian and Al and Blondie shouldn't be doing Beach Boys songs in a concert advertised as a Brian Wilson show.
Bring on Melt Away, There's So Many, Meet Me in My Dreams Tonight, Let's Go to Heaven in My Car, Orange Crate Art, San Francisco, Palm Tree and Moon, Where Has Love Been, Lay Down Burden, ...well, you get the idea.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on September 18, 2018, 12:26:47 AM
Why torture yourself? ;)

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.

So I'm not the only one who has reported unsolicited verbal abuse from BJ.

There was a report of it here at the Woodlands Tx c50 show too.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 18, 2018, 04:05:27 AM
Why torture yourself? ;)

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.

So I'm not the only one who has reported unsolicited verbal abuse from BJ.

There was a report of it here at the Woodlands Tx c50 show too.

It was the most bizarre interaction with a "celebrity" (if you want to call him that) I have ever encountered. He went out of his way to make a problem.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 18, 2018, 06:26:25 AM
I attended the Mt. Winery show lastnight in the SF Bay area. The crowd was very much into the classics, but rather motionless and with minimal applause for his (Love's) new solo work. I went with a group of casual fans all of which thought the new songs were pretty weak. I thought they were awful. All The Love in Paris being the best out of the three...but still meh.

How many damn songs will he write that includes his last name in the title? Does he think we all believe he's really clever? Does he not realize how lame that is? Again, a group of casual fans I was with (who supplied me with a free ticket) all leaned over and whispered to me...how lame. I can only imagine what Dennis would think.

"All the Love in Paris", "Unleash the Love", and on the way into the venue they were playing random Beach Boy and Mike Love songs, one of which seemed to have the title "Make Love Not War"....I wouldn't know as I wouldn't buy the album.

BTW, it seems very shady to plug your solo album and play three tracks at a show billed as the Beach Boys. Totten's and Cowsil's playing/singing were the highlights lastnight....


Okay, i'll accept that; and Brian and Al and Blondie shouldn't be doing Beach Boys songs in a concert advertised as a Brian Wilson show.
Bring on Melt Away, There's So Many, Meet Me in My Dreams Tonight, Let's Go to Heaven in My Car, Orange Crate Art, San Francisco, Palm Tree and Moon, Where Has Love Been, Lay Down Burden, ...well, you get the idea.

I don't understand why people occasionally draw this comparison. Mike's tour and Brian's tour are not the same logistically or in terms of billing/licensing set up.

Brian doesn't license the use of the name "Brian Wilson", whereas BRI lets Mike use the "Beach Boys" name for a specified fee. Mike is using a name he doesn't solely own to plug his solo stuff, whereas Brian is using his own name.

So long as Mike tours under a BAND name, one he is only LICENSING, and Brian tours under his OWN name, the two tours will not be entirely comparable.

Now, obviously, any band can perform any songs they want on stage. Both Mike and Brian can perform nothing but REO Speedwagon and Eminem songs if they want.

But let's not pretend that Mike paying to license use of the "Beach Boys" name while plugging his NEW solo material is the "same" as Brian performing Beach Boys songs at his shows. Not only does Mike plug his solo material under a licensed "Beach Boys" banner, but also blurs the line (in my opinion) between what is "solo" and what is "Beach Boys" material.

Not to mention, Brian mostly only performs songs he wrote or co-wrote (there are occasional exceptions), while Mike performs a slew of songs he had no hand in writing.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: B.E. on September 18, 2018, 06:38:12 AM
Now, obviously, any band can perform any songs they want on stage. Both Mike and Brian can perform nothing but REO Speedwagon and Eminem songs if they want.

Brian can. Mike can't. Either Mike would lose the license or BRI would lose the trademark.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 18, 2018, 07:23:15 AM
Why torture yourself? ;)

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.

But you've had other good interactions with Bruce, yeah? He's probably undiagnosed bipolar, but whatever. He's been more than nice to me several times, and one time he was a bit prickly. He's really the one Beach Boy you can delve into rare album tracks and session work, and he'll talk to you about it! You wanna meet these guys, that's the risk you take. He's in his mid 70s and travels around in a bus 200 days out of the year, and people are always wanting to talk to him. You'd probably be a grump sometimes, too.

Your postings in regard to the BB band on this board were really positive pre-Bruce brushing you off on his way to the tour bus after a show. Ever since that experience, you seem sour on them. I get it, but there's not enough time for that. Pretty soon, you'll be able to see NO original Beach Boys. There will be cover bands touring the country, and that's the only way you'll be able to hear this music live.

Do yourself a favor - go see Brian as many times as is feasible, go see Mike/Bruce as many times as is feasible. Once they're gone, they're gone. You'll be sad and you'll be sorry. Go make a new memory with Bruce if you can.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 18, 2018, 07:32:00 AM
Why torture yourself? ;)

 :woot :woot :woot

Guitarfool - since you asked elsewhere - postings like these that are allowed is the reason I no longer am a regular contributor to this board.

I am all for meaningful discussion of The Beach Boys - and understand some will not like the Mike/Bruce band no matter how talented they are or how much they've stepped up their game since the 'Duke of Earl' days - but what's the point of allowing them to be bashed them without substance?

If there were posts where one contributor said "BRIAN'S OLD!" and the next contributor said "YEAH! BOO BRIAN!", you'd be pissed and probably least give them a warning.

Saying Mike Love's new album is bad because it's loaded with autotune and full of remakes is one thing (which is something I would agree with completely) but numerous postings by the two above being allowed makes this place seem like a biased community where it's OK to sh*t on Mike and Bruce just because, and I don't think that's right.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 18, 2018, 08:05:21 AM
There is only vocal harmony with the BW band... 8)

Which I'm delighted to hear at The Kennedy Center on November 5th again. Why are you on this thread if that's all you have to contribute?
Sorry man, was a little "buzzed" watching my chicago bears win a MNF football game last night. You are a fan's fan seeing all the shows from M&B and BW band! :bw


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on September 18, 2018, 08:28:42 AM
Why torture yourself? ;)

 :woot :woot :woot

Guitarfool - since you asked elsewhere - postings like these that are allowed is the reason I no longer am a regular contributor to this board.

I am all for meaningful discussion of The Beach Boys - and understand some will not like the Mike/Bruce band no matter how talented they are or how much they've stepped up their game since the 'Duke of Earl' days - but what's the point of allowing them to be bashed them without substance?

If there were posts where one contributor said "BRIAN'S OLD!" and the next contributor said "YEAH! BOO BRIAN!", you'd be pissed and probably least give them a warning.

Saying Mike Love's new album is bad because it's loaded with autotune and full of remakes is one thing (which is something I would agree with completely) but numerous postings by the two above being allowed makes this place seem like a biased community where it's OK to sh*t on Mike and Bruce just because, and I don't think that's right.

Since there's some kind of pill for just about everything these days, how about one for making one's skin a bit thicker?  ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 18, 2018, 08:33:42 AM
I would take a pill to deal with Bruce, WTF is up with insulting people at shows?

Billy and rubbersoul13 have firsthand stories of "negative" Bruce behavior far beyond "its all about the music" at M&B shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on September 18, 2018, 12:23:29 PM
I would take a pill to deal with Bruce, WTF is up with insulting people at shows?

Billy and rubbersoul13 have firsthand stories of "negative" Bruce behavior far beyond "its all about the music" at M&B shows.

Not just us either!

I've been very critical of Mike through the years but I respect his talent. I have no love for Bruce at all.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: CenturyDeprived on September 18, 2018, 12:44:40 PM
Review of their MN State Fair show last night. Not much love for Love solo material or Stamos’s Forever.

http://www.startribune.com/beach-boys-and-righteous-brothers-thrill-crowds-at-state-fair/491859921/

Love indulged in a few songs from his 2017 solo album, including the forgettable “All the Love in Paris” and “Unleashed Love.”


...Apparently, forgettable enough that the reviewer can't remember the name of the song!   :lol


:lol
Well, the critic had to show how hip he is by dissing ML solo material. It's in the rock critics code of laws, section 3, paragraph 409.

Just the song's name, with the word "Unleash", is enough to generate unintended chuckles, so it's understandable.

"Unleash" conjures images of unleashing dogs or unleashing trouser snakes... so to hear a famous musician - who fashions themselves to be one of the all-time great rock wordsmiths (and reminds interviewers of that repeatedly over and over and over and over and over again) use that clunky word in a song title is just gonna cause many listeners to start off on the wrong foot, right off the bat.

That, and the song also sucks, truly it does. (And I say that being not someone who hates every Mike solo song). And the album cover image tying in the "unleash" imagery is really, really, really laughable. Every person I've showed it to has busted out laughing. That's an unfortunate reality. Not sure if the unbelievably cliche dove imagery or Mike Love wearing a Mike Love hat is funnier. We could take votes to decide, I suppose.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 18, 2018, 12:56:04 PM
Unleash the trouser snake! :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on September 18, 2018, 01:08:59 PM
 
 :lol
Unleash the Crotch Pheasant.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 18, 2018, 01:36:25 PM
Any videos from recent performances?

 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 18, 2018, 02:21:49 PM
Unleash the trouser snake! :lol



 :lol
Unleash the Crotch Pheasant.


Any videos from recent performances?

 


Say what.......?  :o


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 18, 2018, 06:24:09 PM
Why torture yourself? ;)

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.

But you've had other good interactions with Bruce, yeah? He's probably undiagnosed bipolar, but whatever. He's been more than nice to me several times, and one time he was a bit prickly. He's really the one Beach Boy you can delve into rare album tracks and session work, and he'll talk to you about it! You wanna meet these guys, that's the risk you take. He's in his mid 70s and travels around in a bus 200 days out of the year, and people are always wanting to talk to him. You'd probably be a grump sometimes, too.

Your postings in regard to the BB band on this board were really positive pre-Bruce brushing you off on his way to the tour bus after a show. Ever since that experience, you seem sour on them. I get it, but there's not enough time for that. Pretty soon, you'll be able to see NO original Beach Boys. There will be cover bands touring the country, and that's the only way you'll be able to hear this music live.

Do yourself a favor - go see Brian as many times as is feasible, go see Mike/Bruce as many times as is feasible. Once they're gone, they're gone. You'll be sad and you'll be sorry. Go make a new memory with Bruce if you can.

You're not wrong. I also have a lot of respect and admiration for Scott Totten and John Cowsill. It's always a treat to hear them handle the catalog so carefully. As for new memories though, I'll just stay away. I've had lots and lots of interactions with Mike and Bruce. They've been nothing but excellent with Mike. You're right about Bruce. They've gone both ways. What bothered me about Bruce last summer, was that I did not engage or deserve the comment he made. It was a bit more than "slagging off". For those new to the party, I was waiting in a specific location given to me to meet John Cowsill after a concert to have my photo signed, near the tour bus...like 15-20 feet from the bus. As each band member came out to go on the bus (Mike included) I said Goodnight and thanked them for a great show, they all replied accordingly and kept walking. Out comes Bruce...I think I managed to get out "Hi Bruce, Great show..." before I was interrupted with him screaming "NOPE! NOT GONNA DO IT!" (I can only assume that he assumed the photo in my hand was for him to sign) so I replied "I'm sorry, I'm waiting for Mr. Cowsill to sign my photo." as he walked to the bus, stomped up the steps and shouted "Well all RIGHT then Mr. MAAAAAAN" and slammed the door to the bus.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on September 18, 2018, 06:30:14 PM
What an asshole


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 18, 2018, 06:30:27 PM
Ouch man, you didn’t deserve that at all. Between two shows and a meet/ greet, Al and Blondie were great in personal experience. BW was quiet and I don’t blame him in a random M&G situation.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on September 18, 2018, 06:38:22 PM
Never went to a meet and greet (got there too late :(  ) but after the show I talked with quite a few members of the band. Paul especially was great, as was Al. Matt recognized my wife (from Facebook perhaps?). Darian was...I don't know. Perhaps was tired after the show.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 18, 2018, 06:39:26 PM
Darian was great when I met him, we talked about the fake beards in summer dreams! ;D


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on September 18, 2018, 07:45:27 PM
He came across as being uncomfortable when I met him...my daughter had told him she "liked his music" and he kind of got irritated and said "that's not my music". I of course explained to Jaymie that he just helped bring Brian's music to life live, but he seemed a little uncomfortable through the whole exchange. I kinda feel bad about the whole thing, even now 3 years later.

Had a conversation with Nelson waiting in line for the restroom :lol  Pretty much everyone was cool, aside from a visibly drunk Scott.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Dave in KC on September 18, 2018, 09:29:31 PM
I would take a pill to deal with Bruce, WTF is up with insulting people at shows?

Billy and rubbersoul13 have firsthand stories of "negative" Bruce behavior far beyond "its all about the music" at M&B shows.

Please include me on this list. But my bad experience came in 1985 at midnight when the band was checking into a hotel. I knew they were coming and positioned myself to have a great moment. It happened as planned, except for Bruce sticking his head in my car and admonishing me for having my children up so late.  We were 10 minutes from home. He is a strange bird.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Dave in KC on September 18, 2018, 09:38:51 PM
I truly believe that the personalities of Mike and Bruce was a match made in heaven. Their "togetherness" was and is a no-brainer to me.



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on September 19, 2018, 03:45:10 AM
Bruce is very much into himself.  The most useless player in rock n roll, contributes next to NOTHING on stage, and acts like he's a big star. Dude has major issues, and has done virtually nothing on stage for years, other than to collect a big check and kiss Mike Love's butt.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on September 19, 2018, 07:45:23 AM
I truly believe that the personalities of Mike and Bruce was a match made in heaven. Their "togetherness" was and is a no-brainer to me.



Kinda like Scrooge & Marley.  ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on September 19, 2018, 07:48:00 AM
Bruce is very much into himself.  The most useless player in rock n roll, contributes next to NOTHING on stage, and acts like he's a big star. Dude has major issues, and has done virtually nothing on stage for years, other than to collect a big check and kiss Mike Love's butt.

Atta boy, Tony. Perfect description to a "T".


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lee Marshall on September 19, 2018, 11:23:54 AM
It's a different story when you get in behind the scenes...away from the fans...and the bus.  Seems like Bruce has more recently had enough of 'it' because I have to say he was generally very decent to me.  Away and apart from the spotlight I found him to be open and honest...forthcoming.  Mind you that was 36 years ago.  He was pleasant and friendly 3 years ago and we would have spoken longer and more in depth except for the demands of the clock.

Mike was never anything but distant...bordering on cold...whenever I encountered him well after the show.  But when he came to sit in as the Rotary Club's guest speaker at a fund raiser some 9 months before the subsequent concert/show in Chatham, Ontario...he was both 'on' and reasonably friendly.  I was surprised actually.  Well acted.

I only ever had a quickly passing acquaintance with Al.  "Hi, nice to meet you" and later "howzit goin'?"  Denny?  Just a few words.  With Brian [circa 2005] I did the usual post show "Thanks/congrats"...then somebody in the pack of well-wishers stepped forward, spooked him and ...zoom...>> off he went.  Melinda was very, VERY nice and friendly.  And Carl Wilson?  He was beyond terrific.  What a sensationally wonderful guy.  Salt of the earth.  A well-rounded soul.  Down to earth and humble.  [every time...generally]
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That pic of me there ... to the left?  That was me MC'ing that subsequent show I mentioned above back in early August 2015.  The 'Beached Boys' were VERY good that evening.  Scott deserved, and likely still deserves, a ton of credit.  Mike doesn't have the 'chops' to run a stage show.  THAT has always been true.  His 2 distinct notes sax solos from the first half of the 60s do not, him, a musician make.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on September 19, 2018, 01:06:09 PM
Why torture yourself? ;)

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.

But you've had other good interactions with Bruce, yeah? He's probably undiagnosed bipolar, but whatever. He's been more than nice to me several times, and one time he was a bit prickly. He's really the one Beach Boy you can delve into rare album tracks and session work, and he'll talk to you about it! You wanna meet these guys, that's the risk you take. He's in his mid 70s and travels around in a bus 200 days out of the year, and people are always wanting to talk to him. You'd probably be a grump sometimes, too.

Your postings in regard to the BB band on this board were really positive pre-Bruce brushing you off on his way to the tour bus after a show. Ever since that experience, you seem sour on them. I get it, but there's not enough time for that. Pretty soon, you'll be able to see NO original Beach Boys. There will be cover bands touring the country, and that's the only way you'll be able to hear this music live.

Do yourself a favor - go see Brian as many times as is feasible, go see Mike/Bruce as many times as is feasible. Once they're gone, they're gone. You'll be sad and you'll be sorry. Go make a new memory with Bruce if you can.

Why torture yourself? ;)

 :woot :woot :woot

Guitarfool - since you asked elsewhere - postings like these that are allowed is the reason I no longer am a regular contributor to this board.

I am all for meaningful discussion of The Beach Boys - and understand some will not like the Mike/Bruce band no matter how talented they are or how much they've stepped up their game since the 'Duke of Earl' days - but what's the point of allowing them to be bashed them without substance?

If there were posts where one contributor said "BRIAN'S OLD!" and the next contributor said "YEAH! BOO BRIAN!", you'd be pissed and probably least give them a warning.

Saying Mike Love's new album is bad because it's loaded with autotune and full of remakes is one thing (which is something I would agree with completely) but numerous postings by the two above being allowed makes this place seem like a biased community where it's OK to sh*t on Mike and Bruce just because, and I don't think that's right.



I want to address a few points made here, in the sense of both moderation and in general posting as myself.

First, as all current and previous mods and admins have tried to make clear numerous times, every decision and action made by us is first discussed and then approved or denied as a team. Despite attempts by disgruntled members in the past to say otherwise, at least since I've been on board there are no actions taken by moderators acting alone without first getting the agreement from the others. There has been nothing done by one moderator going rogue - and presently that means Billy and I. We discuss *everything* pertinent to complaints or actions on this board, we do not pull the trigger randomly or out of spite. Again, despite what others have said, that is how we handle it.

Here and in another thread this week, I've been singled out with these issues, and I'd just ask that anything moving forward be addressed to both myself and Billy according to the board rules. We will try to look at each issue in a reasonable amount of time and reply accordingly once we've discussed it. But it feels unfair to Billy and would be unfair to me (and the board system) if only one of us were singled out repeatedly when the complaints or concerns should be addressed/reported privately so we can do what we always do and put it on the discussion table as a team.


What stuck out in these replies (and this is speaking as me, Craig, as a poster and not a mod) is how you asked a poster who had negative experiences with a band member to overlook that and consider seeing the bigger picture in terms of going to enjoy the band in concert despite that negative experience. That's a valid point.

However, I'd say nearly the same reasoning could be applied to your own feelings about this forum in general. If a few posters out of several hundred members, or in this case two posts out of dozens each day, are upsetting you, I'd suggest ignoring them. The forum is an open forum, as such not everyone will agree or even like what's going on.

But to paint the entire place as well as all the people posting here with such a broad brush based on what amounts to less than 1% of the total posts and the active membership would seem like the same mindset you responded to from the poster who had a bad experience with Bruce.

If the thinking is that someone should not let a bad experience affect their opinions or decisions about the bigger picture of buying tickets to see the band live and the good that the rest of the band has to offer audiences, I'd say the same thinking shouldn't affect decisions on or opinions of the entire forum and the membership here based on a few posters you might not agree with or like.

Regarding this comment: "If there were posts where one contributor said "BRIAN'S OLD!" and the next contributor said "YEAH! BOO BRIAN!", you'd be pissed and probably least give them a warning." :

Again, it has no basis in fact unless someone can find a case in the archives were either me or Billy warned or banned anyone based on that kind of post. We simply do *not* do that, so it's a little insulting to have a situation posted that has not happened in the past. If board rules are broken, we discuss and act. If we are posting as members we can and do reply and debate as everyone else does. But this notion of moderators here bringing out the ban hammer over that kind of thing is false. When posters have been banned in the past, it is either a case of strongly crossing the line, or a history of repeatedly breaking the published rules of the board. It isn't because someone says Brian is old or anything of the sort.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 19, 2018, 01:24:18 PM
I appreciate your response. You make some valid points in regards to the fact that there ARE many quality posters here, and I shouldn't discount that. I will apologize if the posting made you feel as if it was somehow your fault only. My feelings largely remain the same on the subject, but rather than continue.... love and mercy - I hope we can all be very appreciative that we have two bands to go see with original members and that they are both excellent, and who cares which ones of them wear striped shirts. :)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 19, 2018, 04:20:12 PM
Good point about the 1% GF. It’s comparable to saying ‘I’m not going to a B.B./BW show because I know they will play ‘Barbara Ann’.  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on September 20, 2018, 07:56:36 AM
Why torture yourself? ;)

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.

But you've had other good interactions with Bruce, yeah? He's probably undiagnosed bipolar, but whatever. He's been more than nice to me several times, and one time he was a bit prickly. He's really the one Beach Boy you can delve into rare album tracks and session work, and he'll talk to you about it! You wanna meet these guys, that's the risk you take. He's in his mid 70s and travels around in a bus 200 days out of the year, and people are always wanting to talk to him. You'd probably be a grump sometimes, too.

Your postings in regard to the BB band on this board were really positive pre-Bruce brushing you off on his way to the tour bus after a show. Ever since that experience, you seem sour on them. I get it, but there's not enough time for that. Pretty soon, you'll be able to see NO original Beach Boys. There will be cover bands touring the country, and that's the only way you'll be able to hear this music live.

Do yourself a favor - go see Brian as many times as is feasible, go see Mike/Bruce as many times as is feasible. Once they're gone, they're gone. You'll be sad and you'll be sorry. Go make a new memory with Bruce if you can.

You're not wrong. I also have a lot of respect and admiration for Scott Totten and John Cowsill. It's always a treat to hear them handle the catalog so carefully. As for new memories though, I'll just stay away. I've had lots and lots of interactions with Mike and Bruce. They've been nothing but excellent with Mike. You're right about Bruce. They've gone both ways. What bothered me about Bruce last summer, was that I did not engage or deserve the comment he made. It was a bit more than "slagging off". For those new to the party, I was waiting in a specific location given to me to meet John Cowsill after a concert to have my photo signed, near the tour bus...like 15-20 feet from the bus. As each band member came out to go on the bus (Mike included) I said Goodnight and thanked them for a great show, they all replied accordingly and kept walking. Out comes Bruce...I think I managed to get out "Hi Bruce, Great show..." before I was interrupted with him screaming "NOPE! NOT GONNA DO IT!" (I can only assume that he assumed the photo in my hand was for him to sign) so I replied "I'm sorry, I'm waiting for Mr. Cowsill to sign my photo." as he walked to the bus, stomped up the steps and shouted "Well all RIGHT then Mr. MAAAAAAN" and slammed the door to the bus.

Bruce is a good guy. If you ever get into a dialogue with him again, and he's at all rude, give it right back to him, you'll probably end up having a good laugh.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on September 20, 2018, 09:41:04 AM
^ that didn’t work with me. Just an FYI.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Jim V. on September 20, 2018, 01:47:14 PM
^ that didn’t work with me. Just an FYI.

Well OKAY, MISTER MAN!

(http://www.radiomaspalomas.es/cmsAdmin/uploads/o_1ch06msd81u1j125j1stfero1ncba.jpg)

"Now let me tell you, Brian's genius music and Mike's just super cool lyrics, it's totally rad!"


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 20, 2018, 02:02:47 PM
Yes! :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 21, 2018, 04:02:08 AM
For those new to the party, I was waiting in a specific location given to me to meet John Cowsill after a concert to have my photo signed, near the tour bus...like 15-20 feet from the bus. As each band member came out to go on the bus (Mike included) I said Goodnight and thanked them for a great show, they all replied accordingly and kept walking. Out comes Bruce...I think I managed to get out "Hi Bruce, Great show..." before I was interrupted with him screaming "NOPE! NOT GONNA DO IT!" (I can only assume that he assumed the photo in my hand was for him to sign) so I replied "I'm sorry, I'm waiting for Mr. Cowsill to sign my photo." as he walked to the bus, stomped up the steps and shouted "Well all RIGHT then Mr. MAAAAAAN" and slammed the door to the bus.
Bruce is Stephen King fan? :brow Evil nurse Annie Wilkes in "Misery" tells the same to the writer she's obsessed with everytime she gets angry. F.ex. when she slapped his numb legs with expensive paper she bought him as he said it didn't suit, buy the other paper.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: southbay on September 21, 2018, 07:54:01 AM
saw the Mike and Bruce show 2 nights ago, the 19th.  I have been fortunate enough to meet the guys several times over the last 20 years, and Bruce truly is a Jekyll and Hyde.  All  of the other guys have always at least been consistent. This was my 17 years old daughter's first time meeting them.  Fortunately, we got the "good" Bruce. He was engaging, talked for several minutes and discussed pieces of the group's catalog with her. I do wish everybody had this same experience with him.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on September 28, 2018, 03:53:33 PM
Got an announcement in my email today

Beach Boys - Now and Then

January 22 - Shreveport LA, Municipal Memorial Auditorium, 7:00

January 23- Lafayette, LA, Heymann Performing Arts Center, 7:30 (This is a show that was originally to be on Oct 3)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on September 29, 2018, 03:32:42 PM
M&B Atlanta date announced:
Jan. 20 -- Atlanta, GA -- Cobb Energy Performing Arts Centre


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: donald on October 02, 2018, 03:06:40 PM
Saw the Winery show on 9-16.   Christian was back, vocals not as good as when I last  saw them.   They did unleash the love.    The show and music had improved over the years but either this was an off night or they are losing ground vocally.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on October 03, 2018, 07:43:58 AM
Saw the Winery show on 9-16.   Christian was back, vocals not as good as when I last  saw them.   They did unleash the love.    The show and music had improved over the years but either this was an off night or they are losing ground vocally.

They usually jam pack the schedule in the late summer, with few nights off. I've noticed for years now that shows in the middle or near the end of long runs with few if any breaks tend to have the band in lower energy and sounding not quite as sharp. It's the cost of trying to always shoehorn in 150 shows per year and play every theater, amphitheater, winery, casino, fair, and bowling alley they possibly can.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: donald on November 10, 2018, 08:25:33 AM
I have also thought of them as the likes of the Basie band.   It could go on in that fashion.  If they keep a dozen or so of the current members of both bands.  Call it the Pet Sounds Orchestra


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on November 10, 2018, 12:17:38 PM
I went ahead and bought tickets for the front row of the balcony at The Lyric for the Baltimore date next month. What the heck. Let's give the Christmas show a shot.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Aum Bop Diddit on November 12, 2018, 07:27:58 PM
I have also thought of them as the likes of the Basie band.   It could go on in that fashion.  If they keep a dozen or so of the current members of both bands.  Call it the Pet Sounds Orchestra

The Glen Miller Orchestra has a number of dates left in this year's touring schedule, the next being December 9th in Newton NJ.  How many original members I wonder!

https://www.secureboxoffice.com/P/p-325?gclid=CjwKCAiA5qTfBRAoEiwAwQy-6egdYEpmx8SYU-G1tAkirxC_gWBEJaAEXIUmti-cK9-IH4u3n_COVhoC_lkQAvD_BwE


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on November 12, 2018, 07:56:04 PM
I'm Glen Miller Orchestra fan - great music.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on December 02, 2018, 07:07:22 PM
I just wrote a big review of the show tonight and my internet was lost and with it, the post was lost. I'm not typing it again.

The band was in very rough shape tonight. The first half was far less than okay, and many people in my section noted it. "Darlin" actually crashed and burned when Cowsill missed a fill and the whole band froze for about three seconds looking panicked. Mike and Bruce look and sounds damn rough. The band was not tight in fact, it was quite messy. I point this out because it is not the norm. I was quite shocked.

Part Two was better, but still rough around the edges. It was wonderful to hear the old Christmas music that I never thought I'd hear live. Mike is singing with the recording of himself on his new Christmas songs.

2018 was not a good year overall for Beach Boys live and I hope that doesn't mean we've passed the point of no return. Mike, Brian, and Bruce are not in good voice. Mike's band is not the tight and well-oiled machine they have been from like 2013-2017. Perhaps this is because they've had more of a revolving door lately. The highlight of 2018 by a landslide, is Al Jardine's Storyteller Shows. If your concert budget allows one Beach Boys experience, that's the way to go. His voice still sounds like 1965, his stories are down to earth and honest, his son is a huge asset to the show, great setlist that allows for fan input (Santa Ana Winds from yours truly), and there's a free meet-and-greet afterwards. What's not to like?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ForHerCryingSoul on December 02, 2018, 07:27:10 PM
2018 was not a good year overall for Beach Boys live and I hope that doesn't mean we've passed the point of no return. Mike, Brian, and Bruce are not in good voice. Mike's band is not the tight and well-oiled machine they have been from like 2013-2017. Perhaps this is because they've had more of a revolving door lately. The highlight of 2018 by a landslide, is Al Jardine's Storyteller Shows. If your concert budget allows one Beach Boys experience, that's the way to go. His voice still sounds like 1965, his stories are down to earth and honest, his son is a huge asset to the show, great setlist that allows for fan input (Santa Ana Winds from yours truly), and there's a free meet-and-greet afterwards. What's not to like?
Makes me upset to read this. Perhaps this is the end of the line? What does one even do at this point?  :bw


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: John Brode on December 02, 2018, 10:14:22 PM
I just wrote a big review of the show tonight and my internet was lost and with it, the post was lost. I'm not typing it again.

The band was in very rough shape tonight. The first half was far less than okay, and many people in my section noted it. "Darlin" actually crashed and burned when Cowsill missed a fill and the whole band froze for about three seconds looking panicked. Mike and Bruce look and sounds damn rough. The band was not tight in fact, it was quite messy. I point this out because it is not the norm. I was quite shocked.

Part Two was better, but still rough around the edges. It was wonderful to hear the old Christmas music that I never thought I'd hear live. Mike is singing with the recording of himself on his new Christmas songs.

2018 was not a good year overall for Beach Boys live and I hope that doesn't mean we've passed the point of no return. Mike, Brian, and Bruce are not in good voice. Mike's band is not the tight and well-oiled machine they have been from like 2013-2017. Perhaps this is because they've had more of a revolving door lately. The highlight of 2018 by a landslide, is Al Jardine's Storyteller Shows. If your concert budget allows one Beach Boys experience, that's the way to go. His voice still sounds like 1965, his stories are down to earth and honest, his son is a huge asset to the show, great setlist that allows for fan input (Santa Ana Winds from yours truly), and there's a free meet-and-greet afterwards. What's not to like?
This is surprising to me. I saw them in early summer this year. The band was tight both vocally and instrumentally, Mike and Bruce sounded pretty good, and the crowd was into it 100% of the time.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Jay on December 02, 2018, 10:47:19 PM
Does anybody find it odd that "The Beach Boys" are suddenly starting to not perform well at the exact same time that there is all this concern for Brian?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on December 03, 2018, 09:21:53 AM
I've seen reviews (and also seen/heard recordings of shows) that demonstrate Mike's band has its ups and downs as well.

That pro-shot private show from last year that disappeared pretty quickly had the band in relatively ragged form, surely due to excessive touring (the 14 shows in 15 nights sort of thing I've talked about before).

I also think both Mike and Brian (and probably Bruce though we don't hear much singing from him) are continuing to (understandably) see aging-related issues, completely separate from any other potential issues they might have going on. They're coming up on 80 years old. They've both shown much more longevity than most fans would have ever expected, but even if the "aging process" isn't as noticeable for them as we my have thought decades ago when pondering the idea of 75+-year-old BBs touring, they are still aging, even if more "slowly" than some others have.

Except Al Jardine. He defies nature. I challenge anybody to find someone who can sound so markedly similar to how they sounded 50+ YEARS AGO.

I guess it's too cold and cynical (and unrealistic) to suggest Mike and Brian go into semi-retirement and let Al go out there to "keep the name alive", but one has to ponder it. Ideally at this stage, I think a lot of fans would be happy to see everybody take some time off next year, and then regroup for a TRUE "farewell" tour, and then anybody that wants to keep doing *less hectic* touring could continue to do so either under their true solo names, or work out some sort of branded BRI thing to equally use the BB name to sell their respective solo shows and also "keep the name alive", somthing like "The Beach Boys Present Mike Love", "The Beach Boys Present Brian Wilson", "The Beach Boys Present Al Jardine."


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: marcella27 on December 03, 2018, 09:51:04 AM
Does anybody find it odd that "The Beach Boys" are suddenly starting to not perform well at the exact same time that there is all this concern for Brian?

Not really.  I saw M&B in early July and it was the roughest I've seen them.  Mike's voice is showing his age for sure, as are his movements on stage.  This is not the Mike of the C50.  And honestly, a lot of it comes down to age.  Brian and Mike are not spring chickens, and they've both got gruelling tour schedules that would exhaust many people decades younger than them.  I think with both bands the overdoing-it factor is a major part of the issues we're seeing.  Mike and Bruce, in particular, keep a touring schedule that is absolute madness.  If they would slow down and not run themselves ragged I think it would result in an improved performance.  


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Jay on December 03, 2018, 10:12:44 AM
Mike makes a mention of the hectic touring schedule of the current group in his autobiography, and it's kind of interesting(to me, at least). He basically says it goes back to the time in the late 1960's and early 1970's when The Beach Boys really had to hustle and work their butts off to more or less save and rebuild their career. Mike more or less admits to a lingering fear that it could happen again.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on December 03, 2018, 10:52:13 AM
Mike makes a mention of the hectic touring schedule of the current group in his autobiography, and it's kind of interesting(to me, at least). He basically says it goes back to the time in the late 1960's and early 1970's when The Beach Boys really had to hustle and work their butts off to more or less save and rebuild their career. Mike more or less admits to a lingering fear that it could happen again.

That could factor in, but I think that also ignores some of the other obvious potential reasons: Lots of money, and also a sort of "possession is 9/10 of the law" sort of mentality in the last 20 years of keeping *his* thing going so it can't revert to other hands. Make no mistake, Mike likes being the "face" of whatever the Beach Boys on a live stage are at this point.

I find it hard to believe fear of, what, going broke?, would be a huge factor. Perhaps to some degree, people's brains can do weird things. But given his openness in sharing his extravagant, lavish lifestyle on Facebook (look, we need a 20-foot-latter to decorate the tree!), anyone would be hard pressed to think Mike would be living in the gutter if he just scaled back touring.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on December 03, 2018, 08:21:21 PM
None of them have the tact to bow out gracefully with a farewell tour...there have been countless opportunities in the past oh...forty years or so, to do something like that and it could have left them in such a better place. It'll never happen. I wouldn't necessarily say they'll never perform together again. But with Mike, Bruce, and Brian don't even have their 2012 chops anymore to do something on a C50 scale. To market them at that height, in those kinds of venues...would end up being an embarrassment.

I've said it before, I'll say it again...as a fan (not making any judgements or assumptions), I'd like to see "The Beach Boys" defined as Brian Wilson's touring band with John Cowsill and Scott Totten...fronted by Mike Love, Al Jardine, and David Marks. Mike brings the signature showmanship that, like it or not, is associated with the attitude of this band on stage. Alan brings authenticity in his vocals and sincerity that can't be replaced. David brings some sick guitar licks and adds to the authenticity. Bruce Johnston is disposable. He played his keyboard audibly, one time Sunday night on "White Christmas" and it was just poorly timed rolling chords on the downbeats. His vocals are like a notch between a crackle and a whisper. He can surf his days away in Santa Barbara. And then there's Brian. I'd like to see Brian given a free pass. If he wants to come along, there's a keyboard and his lead vocals are waiting for him. If he doesn't feel up to a run of shows, then the production can run all systems go without him present as it has many times before. The key would be to never advertise or confirm his presence, and that any extended expense of his travel beyond what the rest of the band requires, is covered himself...as that simply isn't fair to people who are out year round making a living off this.

BUT...that'll never happen. Of course, timing plays a part, but I suspect Brian's show will stop before Mike's does. I'd imagine his band will split and find their own work, very easily, elsewhere. Blondie will disappear back into the darkness, and Alan will continue with his couple dozen solo shows a year. When it's time for Mike to stop or he is stopped by higher powers, I have zero doubt that "The Beach Boys" will tour. The rock and roll answer to the Glen Miller Orchestra. I doubt Bruce would stay without Mike. Would David and/or Alan for that matter, be invited without the Lovester around? Would that then give Bruce reason to stay? All interesting thoughts for sure.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Jay on December 03, 2018, 09:59:50 PM
I should have known not to post that. Of course, why have a deeply rooted psychological and plausible reason, when we can just blame evil egomaniac Mike Love's greed for money and power as the leader of his Beach Boys. Sometimes I forget which board I'm on. This constant hate is getting tiresome and old.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on December 03, 2018, 10:48:10 PM
Here are my thoughts...

As for Mike singing with a recording of himself, I'd like to say I'm indifferent, because I've had singers I play with or promote sing along with recordings of themselves to get a richer, double tracked, sound. but I'd rather just have Mike sing by himself, and hear a few bad notes.  I doubt  the thought behind Mike doing this is to achieve a double tracked sound however... If it's because his voice isn't strong enough, then why don't they have him do that on all the songs? Why just the new ones? Maybe because he can't remember the words? Well if that's the case, if he forgot to the point where he stopped singing, and the pre-recorded track carried on without him, that would be super awkward... I guess if he is still singing and it's just as, if not more, audible than the pre-recorded track, I suppose I'd be fine- as long as it's not like Frankie Valli just straight up lip syncing. But again, I'd still just rather hear Mike's voice, warts and all.

As for the band being tight or not tight, I'd say that's a night by night thing. Playing music isn't easy ... especially Beach Boys music. Very Complicated harmonies and chord changes. So with that being said, I understand the band sounding really tight some nights, and not so much other nights. Their hectic touring schedule obviously doesn't help. I've seen Mike's band four times since 2014, and I have always thought they sounded incredibly tight, with the exception of the most recent time I saw them in August of 2018. They were still tighter than most bands I've ever seen, but we're sometimes spoiled with both Mike and Brian's respective bands, and we get used to literal perfection. Yes, I said it- perfection. There have been times where I've been watching both bands either in person or on the internet, where I've been blown away by the beautiful BBs sound both bands can conjure up...   At this point, with Mike and Brian both nearing their 80's, both of their voices and stage presence have declined. But seeing either of those legends in person (with Bruce or Al/Blondie) is worth the price of admission.

As for the future, I have mixed opinions. If Mike and Brian both continue to tour, I will be very happy because I love getting to see each band in person. If they choose to retire, one before the other, or at the same time, it would be bittersweet, but I would feel relieved for obvious reasons. In response to the idea of a Mike/Al/David show, I'll say this. I really love the current Beach Boys band and Brian Wilson band. They both have incredibly skilled musicians. I also think there's a pool of talented musicians from Al's Endless Summer band, the Surf City Allstars (Dean Torrence, Al, and David's band), and past touring members (Randell Kirsch, Ike,  Nelson Bragg, Adrian Baker). Between Mike's band, Brian's band, and the other musicians I mentioned, a fantastic backing band could be assembled. And like Jay mentioned, whoever has the desire to continue touring could front the band... It could be all the guys, or even just one or two of them, like we're already used to. In my mind, an ideal situation would be similar to Jay's, but would also include Bruce. Sure, his voice isn't what it used to be, and instrumentally, he coasts through the show, with the audibility of his piano being questionable, but Bruce is a Beach Boy and having him in the show adds authenticity, and for being in the band for over 50 years, he has earned it. Hell, I think it would be cool if Dean Torrence either sat in occasionally, or even toured with the band as well, if he wanted to. This idea came into my mind because of his little cameo for Barbara Ann during a C50 show. I know he wasn't a Beach Boy, but he has been a collaborator with the band since the early days, and is a skilled enough musician to earn a role in this fantasy band... even if his singing isn't always perfect, like the other guys I've mentioned- I think he's earned it. However, given my past experiences bringing J&D up on this forum, I get the feeling many of you will disagree....

Wow, I didn't expect to get so off topic...   As for everyone saying 2018 wasn't a great year for the group, remember this- Brian, Mike, Bruce, Al, and Blondie are still 1) around and 2) performing, so we're extremely lucky for that. We also got a new album from Mike, and despite how you may feel about Reason For The Season (reviews seem pretty mixed), it's still very impressive to see any of the guys in studio working on new material. We also got the Royal Philharmonic album (again, with mixed reviews) but that climbed to the top of classical charts, another cool accomplishment for the band. We also have the '68 boxset coming out anytime now, which is sure to be mind blowing... The guys also reunited for the first time in years!! Who the hell thought that was gonna happen?!!?!?! So, sure, the guys might be in rough shape vocally (some more than others) and the albums we've gotten so far (RPO and Reason For The Season) may not be classics, but they both have their moments, in my opinion, so 2018 may have not been a perfect year, but it was a damn good one.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: twentytwenty on December 04, 2018, 01:30:17 AM
None of them have the tact to bow out gracefully with a farewell tour...there have been countless opportunities in the past oh...forty years or so, to do something like that and it could have left them in such a better place. It'll never happen. I wouldn't necessarily say they'll never perform together again. But with Mike, Bruce, and Brian don't even have their 2012 chops anymore to do something on a C50 scale. To market them at that height, in those kinds of venues...would end up being an embarrassment.

I've said it before, I'll say it again...as a fan (not making any judgements or assumptions), I'd like to see "The Beach Boys" defined as Brian Wilson's touring band with John Cowsill and Scott Totten...fronted by Mike Love, Al Jardine, and David Marks. Mike brings the signature showmanship that, like it or not, is associated with the attitude of this band on stage. Alan brings authenticity in his vocals and sincerity that can't be replaced. David brings some sick guitar licks and adds to the authenticity. Bruce Johnston is disposable. He played his keyboard audibly, one time Sunday night on "White Christmas" and it was just poorly timed rolling chords on the downbeats. His vocals are like a notch between a crackle and a whisper. He can surf his days away in Santa Barbara. And then there's Brian. I'd like to see Brian given a free pass. If he wants to come along, there's a keyboard and his lead vocals are waiting for him. If he doesn't feel up to a run of shows, then the production can run all systems go without him present as it has many times before. The key would be to never advertise or confirm his presence, and that any extended expense of his travel beyond what the rest of the band requires, is covered himself...as that simply isn't fair to people who are out year round making a living off this.

BUT...that'll never happen. Of course, timing plays a part, but I suspect Brian's show will stop before Mike's does. I'd imagine his band will split and find their own work, very easily, elsewhere. Blondie will disappear back into the darkness, and Alan will continue with his couple dozen solo shows a year. When it's time for Mike to stop or he is stopped by higher powers, I have zero doubt that "The Beach Boys" will tour. The rock and roll answer to the Glen Miller Orchestra. I doubt Bruce would stay without Mike. Would David and/or Alan for that matter, be invited without the Lovester around? Would that then give Bruce reason to stay? All interesting thoughts for sure.


I would want to see this, but leave out Cowsill and keep Brians band intact with the addition of Scott..

It would actually be amazing if Brians band would carry on after Brian retires, I'd really want to see a tour with the band on it's own bursting out the hits - they were always the superior backing band between the two imo..


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on December 04, 2018, 02:07:23 AM
2 NateRuvin:

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And like Jay mentioned, whoever has the desire to continue touring could front the band
It's HeyJude's point in Reply #442.

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In my mind, an ideal situation would be similar to Jay's, but would also include Bruce.
Again, you address the other poster's point, this time RubberSoul13's in Reply 446.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: rab2591 on December 04, 2018, 05:53:57 AM
I should have known not to post that. Of course, why have a deeply rooted psychological and plausible reason, when we can just blame evil egomaniac Mike Love's greed for money and power as the leader of his Beach Boys. Sometimes I forget which board I'm on. This constant hate is getting tiresome and old.

I think both you and HeyJude have nearly the same point though. Mike has admitted in the recent past that, due to his upbringing and the lousy jobs he had growing up, he has always worked his tail off to make sure there is food on his and his family's plate. Why does Mike want control of the Beach Boys name/band? Probably two main reasons: one, it ensures food on his plate (even though he could quit now and not starve, he still has that "work your tail off" drive and knows he has a lot of mouths to feed in his band), and two, he probably does like the recognition of his role in the current band after decades of hearing that Brian is the genius of the band...this isn't any hate against Mike, but just a rational look at why he makes the decisions he makes. He does show off his lavish lifestyle (has been doing it for decades (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlJaGMLZjrg)) and he probably does it because he's proud of what he has been able to accomplish in life despite a lot of hardships.

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when we can just blame evil egomaniac Mike Love's greed for money and power as the leader of his Beach Boys. Sometimes I forget which board I'm on. This constant hate is getting tiresome and old.

Jay, you're claiming that pointing out some fairly obvious and provable points about Mike Love are somehow "constant hate". I know the other spectrum of the online Beach Boys fandom really likes to forget this stuff, but Mike Love is indeed the man who just a little over 10 years ago tried to sue Brian for a lot of money over a tiny picture on a freebie CD and in that lawsuit claimed that Brian only took drugs and did absolutely zero songwriting for decades after 1968 - this is all in black and white in the lawsuit. So when people make the claim that Mike does things out of greed or egomaniac tendencies, they aren't just pulling this from some fringe tin-foil-hat part of the fandom. You can call it "hate" but it's just pretty obvious stuff that some fans want to ignore because they want to live in some Beach Boys fantasy world of sunshine and rainbows.

There is definitely a middle ground in this fandom where we can still appreciate Mike's contributions to this incredible music whilst also being able to admit that Mike isn't perfect and has done some rather lousy things to people. Just because a few people on one board really hate this guy doesn't mean the rest of the fandom needs to run to the opposite end of the spectrum and completely ignore some very obvious history of this band and it's members.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Wirestone on December 05, 2018, 07:10:02 AM
I think this topic has been raised with Brian's band members, and the response is ... mixed. As I recall, sbout half would be interested in carrying on, but another half aren't that keen on doing it without BW.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: marcella27 on December 05, 2018, 09:07:27 AM
None of them have the tact to bow out gracefully with a farewell tour...there have been countless opportunities in the past oh...forty years or so, to do something like that and it could have left them in such a better place. It'll never happen. I wouldn't necessarily say they'll never perform together again. But with Mike, Bruce, and Brian don't even have their 2012 chops anymore to do something on a C50 scale. To market them at that height, in those kinds of venues...would end up being an embarrassment.

I've said it before, I'll say it again...as a fan (not making any judgements or assumptions), I'd like to see "The Beach Boys" defined as Brian Wilson's touring band with John Cowsill and Scott Totten...fronted by Mike Love, Al Jardine, and David Marks. Mike brings the signature showmanship that, like it or not, is associated with the attitude of this band on stage. Alan brings authenticity in his vocals and sincerity that can't be replaced. David brings some sick guitar licks and adds to the authenticity. Bruce Johnston is disposable. He played his keyboard audibly, one time Sunday night on "White Christmas" and it was just poorly timed rolling chords on the downbeats. His vocals are like a notch between a crackle and a whisper. He can surf his days away in Santa Barbara. And then there's Brian. I'd like to see Brian given a free pass. If he wants to come along, there's a keyboard and his lead vocals are waiting for him. If he doesn't feel up to a run of shows, then the production can run all systems go without him present as it has many times before. The key would be to never advertise or confirm his presence, and that any extended expense of his travel beyond what the rest of the band requires, is covered himself...as that simply isn't fair to people who are out year round making a living off this.

BUT...that'll never happen. Of course, timing plays a part, but I suspect Brian's show will stop before Mike's does. I'd imagine his band will split and find their own work, very easily, elsewhere. Blondie will disappear back into the darkness, and Alan will continue with his couple dozen solo shows a year. When it's time for Mike to stop or he is stopped by higher powers, I have zero doubt that "The Beach Boys" will tour. The rock and roll answer to the Glen Miller Orchestra. I doubt Bruce would stay without Mike. Would David and/or Alan for that matter, be invited without the Lovester around? Would that then give Bruce reason to stay? All interesting thoughts for sure.


I would want to see this, but leave out Cowsill and keep Brians band intact with the addition of Scott..

It would actually be amazing if Brians band would carry on after Brian retires, I'd really want to see a tour with the band on it's own bursting out the hits - they were always the superior backing band between the two imo..

Me too.  Al, Brian's band plus Scott Totten would be about as good as you could get in my opinion. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: STE on December 06, 2018, 05:07:31 AM


Mike & Bruce + Hanson, "Finally It's Christmas" live on Today:  https://youtu.be/ZI_I7hOGbrU (https://youtu.be/ZI_I7hOGbrU)






Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: STE on December 06, 2018, 05:10:14 AM


The Beach Boys - Santa's Beard / Little St.Nick, live in Greensburg, PA, December 4th: https://youtu.be/fCMWhqpTuwo (https://youtu.be/fCMWhqpTuwo)



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on December 06, 2018, 01:31:10 PM
Yeah, that's about how they sounded the night before.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ReggieDunbar on December 08, 2018, 09:52:14 AM
Never seen this happen before: Mike forgets the lyrics to surfin safari!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhxErnS24wk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhxErnS24wk)



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on December 08, 2018, 02:02:20 PM
Never seen this happen before: Mike forgets the lyrics to surfin safari!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhxErnS24wk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhxErnS24wk)



He didn't quite "forget the words"...he jut messed up the form. He started into the chorus after the guitar solo, heard them shift to the IV chord on the verse, and then it sounds like Foskett takes over to finish the phrase as Mike hops back in with another go round of the chorus.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on December 10, 2018, 06:26:55 PM
Seein Mike and Bruce in MD, we’re at intermission currently and Foskett has had no leads so far, not even DWB. Maybe he’s sick but he didn’t even sing falsetto. Scott’s been doing it all, i saw them in Baltimore last week and they sound just as rough, missing cues forgetting words, starting songs late. They cut when i grow up, don’t think I’ve ever been to a show where they haven’t played that. Merry Christmas Baby has been added with Christian on lead at least it’s on the stage setlist. Having seen Brian and mike both in the last month it’s really getting cringy to watch. I love the band they’re my idols this is my 23rd show and I’m only 23 and I’ll continue to see shows when they’re in my area but they’ve both taken steps back in recent years but i honestly can’t be mad at either group. They still play the music great and it’s awesome to see them.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on December 17, 2018, 10:31:55 PM
Someone mentioned Mike singing along with a recording of himself on the Christmas songs... Well, after watching many videos, like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoGwIHATpF0, I honestly don't think that's true. I only hear one voice, and you can hear some bad notes- however, he does sound fantastic!

There are several videos of Mike singing with recordings of himself (the recent Hallmark appearance and Fourth of July medley) ... Like I mentioned in a previous post, I don't really mind that he does it, if it makes his voice sound stronger (like in the fourth of july performance). The reason I don't mind is because he still is singing and it is audible, so it's not that different from the way Foskett used to double BW on leads. I would however be disappointing if the group started lip syncing live, which I don't think will ever happen.

From the videos I've seen, I think the bands sounds all around pretty good. Maybe a little tired, but Mike and Bruce are really getting up there, and Foskett turned 60 not too long ago. With that in mind, it blows my mind how good these guys sound. Mike doesn't quite move like he used to, but he's still a captivating frontman. Bruce, in a way is like Brian: while he may not play his piano to often, or sing as many leads as we wish he would, just having his presence and watching him enjoy the music is worth price of admission. After all, these guys are The Beach Boys. We are so lucky  to have any of the members still touring, let alone Mike & Bruce touring together, giving a near perfect (perfect would be impossible) overview of The Beach Boys 50+ year career, Brian with Al & Blondie playing with arguably the world's greatest backing band, and David often playing with Dean Torrence and the Surf City Allstars.

We won't get to discuss The Beach Boys/Brian Wilson/Al Jardine/etc... tours forever.... So even if you're frustrated that The Beach Boys only consist of Mike & Bruce as original members, if you get a chance to see them- do it. All of these guys are living legends.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on December 25, 2018, 02:15:20 PM
Check out this awesome video of Scott Totten showing his pedal setup and playing some classic BBs riffs!! Also, notice "Kona Coast" playing in the background...  Also notice that Scott starts to play Let's Go Trippin'... Man, Scott really knows his Beach Boys. Thank god for him, because after Carl died and until Scott became musical director, the band sounded like a near perfect  representation of The Beach Boys but once Scott joined, Mike's band really does sound like The Beach Boys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-5dCSxQl3A


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on December 25, 2018, 04:21:07 PM
That’s actually Melekalikimaka in the background ( the Christmas version of Kona Coast). I agree that Scott has been huge for Mike but I disagree that the band between 98 and when Scott took over as director were great representations . I went to several shows that were bar cover band like


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: DC310 on January 07, 2019, 11:49:20 AM
Posting this here and on one other thread where it seems it might be of the most interest. A friend saw the touring BBs in 2017 and Foskett didn't sing at all. Must've had a cold or something. Anyway, Brian E sang all the falsetto parts that show and here's some video with many more songs by same poster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf1LYUPBozY


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RJM on January 08, 2019, 01:02:52 AM
Posting this here and on one other thread where it seems it might be of the most interest. A friend saw the touring BBs in 2017 and Foskett didn't sing at all. Must've had a cold or something. Anyway, Brian E sang all the falsetto parts that show and here's some video with many more songs by same poster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf1LYUPBozY

I was at that particular show, and yes, Jeff was suffering from a bad cold that night.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocker on January 09, 2019, 10:42:22 AM
I couldn't find a Beach Boys 2019 Tour thread, so I'll just post this here.


The Beach Boys at Silver Creek Event Center

The Beach Boys perform live at Silver Creek Event Center at Four Winds Casino New Buffalo on August 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3pY50TPIQw


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on January 09, 2019, 02:23:16 PM
That was very carefully crafted to only show Mike and Bruce, for a change!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: BeachBoysCovers on January 09, 2019, 03:17:52 PM
That was very carefully crafted to only show Mike and Bruce, for a change!

They've added to the Youtube description: "This concert will not feature Brian Wilson, Al Jardine or David Marks."


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: thatjacob on January 17, 2019, 04:48:47 PM
A very similar commercial has been airing in the Atlanta market the past few days, as well.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 01, 2019, 11:30:37 AM
I was just listening to KYW 1060, the news radio station in Philly that everyone listens to for traffic, weather, and school closings when it snows like it is currently...), and an ad for a Mike & Bruce Beach Boys show on July 27th in Atlantic City came on, Hard Rock casino. First I had heard it, or a BB themed concert ad in general, for awhile. Anyway, here's the links for those interested:
https://www.hardrockhotels.com/atlantic-city/hotel-home (https://www.hardrockhotels.com/atlantic-city/hotel-home)
https://www1.ticketmaster.com/the-beach-boys-now-then/event/02005637ED669536 (https://www1.ticketmaster.com/the-beach-boys-now-then/event/02005637ED669536)

What stood out about the billing and ad included that it's being billed as "Now And Then"...anyone know what that title refers to beyond the obvious? For once there was no 50th anniversary tag to celebrate something from 1969, so I guess this tag replaced the 50th tag for 2019.

I did not see on the web links nor hear in the radio ad the disclaimer about Brian-Al-Blondie not appearing at this show as someone saw in another market's promotions.

What I noticed in the radio ad was that the majority of the BB's original music clips were using Brian's falsetto parts as the sound clip - Whether that's coincidence or not, it was noticeable. Considering the ad directed you to both the BB's and Mike's own website for more info, most of the audio heard in the spot was spotlighting Brian's falsetto hooks. I just found that a bit odd considering Mike's vocals would be a more expected spotlight to advertise his shows. Anyhoo...





Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: BeachBoysCovers on February 01, 2019, 12:40:30 PM
I was just listening to KYW 1060, the news radio station in Philly that everyone listens to for traffic, weather, and school closings when it snows like it is currently...), and an ad for a Mike & Bruce Beach Boys show on July 27th in Atlantic City came on, Hard Rock casino. First I had heard it, or a BB themed concert ad in general, for awhile. Anyway, here's the links for those interested:
https://www.hardrockhotels.com/atlantic-city/hotel-home (https://www.hardrockhotels.com/atlantic-city/hotel-home)
https://www1.ticketmaster.com/the-beach-boys-now-then/event/02005637ED669536 (https://www1.ticketmaster.com/the-beach-boys-now-then/event/02005637ED669536)

What stood out about the billing and ad included that it's being billed as "Now And Then"...anyone know what that title refers to beyond the obvious? For once there was no 50th anniversary tag to celebrate something from 1969, so I guess this tag replaced the 50th tag for 2019.

I did not see on the web links nor hear in the radio ad the disclaimer about Brian-Al-Blondie not appearing at this show as someone saw in another market's promotions.

What I noticed in the radio ad was that the majority of the BB's original music clips were using Brian's falsetto parts as the sound clip - Whether that's coincidence or not, it was noticeable. Considering the ad directed you to both the BB's and Mike's own website for more info, most of the audio heard in the spot was spotlighting Brian's falsetto hooks. I just found that a bit odd considering Mike's vocals would be a more expected spotlight to advertise his shows. Anyhoo...



Now And Then appears to be the tour name since at least last June when they were in the UK. They had a t-shirt for it which had lots of pictures of the band from all the eras - concentric circles, sixties on outside, then seventies (including one with Ricky and Blondie), eighties, then one with a 90s photo and reunion tour, and then finally in the centre the current touring band.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on February 21, 2019, 04:57:53 AM
Mike’s BBs are coming to Honolulu for a show.

I was shocked to see a promo for the concert on TV using C50 footage. Included was a close-up of Brian singing at his piano, several shots of Al, one with David, one with Bruce and like five of Mike.

This kind of thing happens too often to be accidental. Fans excited to see Brian with the band will certainly be disappointed!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on February 21, 2019, 06:45:07 AM
Time for a Hawaii vacation for me, OSD, and Add some?  >:D


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 21, 2019, 11:40:43 AM
I couldn't find a Beach Boys 2019 Tour thread, so I'll just post this here.


The Beach Boys at Silver Creek Event Center

The Beach Boys perform live at Silver Creek Event Center at Four Winds Casino New Buffalo on August 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3pY50TPIQw

I just lazily changed the 8 to a 9 lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on February 21, 2019, 12:48:21 PM
Time for a Hawaii vacation for me, OSD, and Add some?  >:D

I'm packed and ready to guys! Can you imagine staying at the same hotel as myKe's fake BB's? Oh what fun that would be, huh? :p :p :p


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on February 21, 2019, 05:07:43 PM
That hotel bar... :o


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: harrisonjon on February 27, 2019, 02:14:32 PM
I saw them in Fort Myers last night for the second time (previous visit was the December 2016 Xmas show) and would say:

Positives - I thought Brian Eichenberger was excellent on Don't Worry Baby. I loved the arrangement of In My Room and I think Bruce still does Disney Girls pretty well. The rhythm section is great and John Cowsill really pounds out those beats. Randy Leago plays a mean sax. Nine musicians on stage means you always get plenty of volume, but Totten also brings some subtlety to the arrangements (In My Room being the supreme example).

Neutral - Mike and Bruce deserve to be cut some slack at their age. Their voices are surviving better than Brian's, which was totally shot in Xmas show I saw. Exposing themselves to Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring a capella takes some balls, although Eichenberger carries that song to a large degree.

Negatives - Mike's solo stuff, which nobody wanted to hear, and the very ordinary lead of his son Christian on God Only Knows. Jeff's absence (which Mike didn't even acknowledge) affected some tunes such as 'Surfer Girl'. The setlist was predictably no-risk so we didn't even get Heroes and Villains. Mike is still milking 'Pisces Brother' and Pet Sounds 50th like he was in Dec 16, and I felt there was a subtext to his highlighting that Carl W and George Harrison both died from lung cancer (why mention it?).

Mike's movement - yes, he's down to a shuffle and I can foresee him needing more breaks like the one he takes during Disney Girls. Bruce is not doing much on the keyboards AFAIK (more of a prop these days?).

I thought it was worth the night out but I doubt I will need to see the band again, whereas Brian's band remains essential even if he's mostly just sitting there, provided he still wants to be sitting there.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on February 27, 2019, 05:54:46 PM
Bruce's keyboard has been a prop for forty years.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: All Summer Long on February 27, 2019, 06:21:38 PM
I saw them in Fort Myers last night for the second time (previous visit was the December 2016 Xmas show) and would say:

Positives - I thought Brian Eichenberger was excellent on Don't Worry Baby. I loved the arrangement of In My Room and I think Bruce still does Disney Girls pretty well. The rhythm section is great and John Cowsill really pounds out those beats. Randy Leago plays a mean sax. Nine musicians on stage means you always get plenty of volume, but Totten also brings some subtlety to the arrangements (In My Room being the supreme example).

Neutral - Mike and Bruce deserve to be cut some slack at their age. Their voices are surviving better than Brian's, which was totally shot in Xmas show I saw. Exposing themselves to Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring a capella takes some balls, although Eichenberger carries that song to a large degree.

Negatives - Mike's solo stuff, which nobody wanted to hear, and the very ordinary lead of his son Christian on God Only Knows. Jeff's absence (which Mike didn't even acknowledge) affected some tunes such as 'Surfer Girl'. The setlist was predictably no-risk so we didn't even get Heroes and Villains. Mike is still milking 'Pisces Brother' and Pet Sounds 50th like he was in Dec 16, and I felt there was a subtext to his highlighting that Carl W and George Harrison both died from lung cancer (why mention it?).

Mike's movement - yes, he's down to a shuffle and I can foresee him needing more breaks like the one he takes during Disney Girls. Bruce is not doing much on the keyboards AFAIK (more of a prop these days?).

I thought it was worth the night out but I doubt I will need to see the band again, whereas Brian's band remains essential even if he's mostly just sitting there, provided he still wants to be sitting there.

Wait...how long have I been out of the loop...Brian Eichenberger's back and Foskett's gone????


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on February 27, 2019, 06:36:39 PM
I assumed Bruce's keyboard was a prop but this is what I was told by Scott Totten ...


"Bruce's keyboard is always on.  His keyboard is the main sound in DARLIN and the chorus and bridge of VIBES."


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on February 27, 2019, 06:57:11 PM
I assumed Bruce's keyboard was a prop but this is what I was told by Scott Totten ...


"Bruce's keyboard is always on.  His keyboard is the main sound in DARLIN and the chorus and bridge of VIBES."


Holy crap, man!!! He must be worn out after having all that responsibility! What a farce.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Marty Castillo on February 28, 2019, 06:01:22 PM
I saw them in Fort Myers last night for the second time (previous visit was the December 2016 Xmas show) and would say:

Positives - I thought Brian Eichenberger was excellent on Don't Worry Baby. I loved the arrangement of In My Room and I think Bruce still does Disney Girls pretty well. The rhythm section is great and John Cowsill really pounds out those beats. Randy Leago plays a mean sax. Nine musicians on stage means you always get plenty of volume, but Totten also brings some subtlety to the arrangements (In My Room being the supreme example).

Neutral - Mike and Bruce deserve to be cut some slack at their age. Their voices are surviving better than Brian's, which was totally shot in Xmas show I saw. Exposing themselves to Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring a capella takes some balls, although Eichenberger carries that song to a large degree.

Negatives - Mike's solo stuff, which nobody wanted to hear, and the very ordinary lead of his son Christian on God Only Knows. Jeff's absence (which Mike didn't even acknowledge) affected some tunes such as 'Surfer Girl'. The setlist was predictably no-risk so we didn't even get Heroes and Villains. Mike is still milking 'Pisces Brother' and Pet Sounds 50th like he was in Dec 16, and I felt there was a subtext to his highlighting that Carl W and George Harrison both died from lung cancer (why mention it?).

Mike's movement - yes, he's down to a shuffle and I can foresee him needing more breaks like the one he takes during Disney Girls. Bruce is not doing much on the keyboards AFAIK (more of a prop these days?).

I thought it was worth the night out but I doubt I will need to see the band again, whereas Brian's band remains essential even if he's mostly just sitting there, provided he still wants to be sitting there.

Wait...how long have I been out of the loop...Brian Eichenberger's back and Foskett's gone????

I was thinking the same thing. Though, I thought I heard that Foskett had some illness and didn't take leads recently.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: All Summer Long on February 28, 2019, 06:53:14 PM
I saw them in Fort Myers last night for the second time (previous visit was the December 2016 Xmas show) and would say:

Positives - I thought Brian Eichenberger was excellent on Don't Worry Baby. I loved the arrangement of In My Room and I think Bruce still does Disney Girls pretty well. The rhythm section is great and John Cowsill really pounds out those beats. Randy Leago plays a mean sax. Nine musicians on stage means you always get plenty of volume, but Totten also brings some subtlety to the arrangements (In My Room being the supreme example).

Neutral - Mike and Bruce deserve to be cut some slack at their age. Their voices are surviving better than Brian's, which was totally shot in Xmas show I saw. Exposing themselves to Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring a capella takes some balls, although Eichenberger carries that song to a large degree.

Negatives - Mike's solo stuff, which nobody wanted to hear, and the very ordinary lead of his son Christian on God Only Knows. Jeff's absence (which Mike didn't even acknowledge) affected some tunes such as 'Surfer Girl'. The setlist was predictably no-risk so we didn't even get Heroes and Villains. Mike is still milking 'Pisces Brother' and Pet Sounds 50th like he was in Dec 16, and I felt there was a subtext to his highlighting that Carl W and George Harrison both died from lung cancer (why mention it?).

Mike's movement - yes, he's down to a shuffle and I can foresee him needing more breaks like the one he takes during Disney Girls. Bruce is not doing much on the keyboards AFAIK (more of a prop these days?).

I thought it was worth the night out but I doubt I will need to see the band again, whereas Brian's band remains essential even if he's mostly just sitting there, provided he still wants to be sitting there.

Wait...how long have I been out of the loop...Brian Eichenberger's back and Foskett's gone????

I was thinking the same thing. Though, I thought I heard that Foskett had some illness and didn't take leads recently.

That I remember too.  But still confused about the rest.  Has anyone else seen a recent M&B show to confirm this?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on February 28, 2019, 06:58:07 PM
I assumed Bruce's keyboard was a prop but this is what I was told by Scott Totten ...


"Bruce's keyboard is always on.  His keyboard is the main sound in DARLIN and the chorus and bridge of VIBES."

Yes, Scott told me the same exact thing. I have watched Bruce's keyboard intently during those songs and others from many viewpoints and at many different concerts and as a pianist myself, I will say with the utmost confidence that the only song he plays EVERY time, is "Disney Girls" on the cheesy 80's EP sound. I have also picked it up occasionally on "Don't Worry Baby" and have seen him give starting pitches for "Their Hearts Were Full of Spring" with that keyboard. That is it. I've never seen or heard anything to indicate playing on "Darlin" or "Good Vibrations". His hands are all over the place...and he is CONSTANTLY obsessed with the mix and signaling to the sound guy which makes it even funnier. The only other speculation I can make, is that he sometimes plays vocal harmony parts that are doubled only for in-ear monitoring and not in the house mix, which would explain why his playing seems out of time and inconsistent.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on February 28, 2019, 09:39:14 PM
I agree about Bruce's timing and hand placement. It does seem really all over the place. I have wondered for years if maybe his keyboard is indeed for vocal cues. I don't think Scott would purposely misguide any of us, so I think there is truth to his statements. It's obvious that Bruce doesn't do the heavy lifting, but I do think that his keyboard is more than an inaudible prop like the early BW tours with his keyboard or Dean Torrence's guitar. I think Bruce's keyboard is probably very similar to Al's guitar. Crucial back in the day, but now is more of a supporting instrument.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: harrisonjon on March 01, 2019, 04:16:22 AM
Foskett was present on 2/2/2019 so I think he misses some gigs but not others.

For Bruce being all over the place, check out this clip. He has cue cards for some reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnzYw7p3qCI


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 01, 2019, 06:49:52 AM
Bruce said this about his live concert keyboard playing in an interview with Howie Edelson:

"The point of my piano was to kind of keep my voice company. I thought, well, gosh, with some of these songs, If I can boogie and put the cushion under 'God Only Knows,' you won't really hear it unless I stop playing. Then you'll know something's gone."


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 01, 2019, 09:32:25 AM
Regarding Foskett, while I have no particular knowledge, a usual tip-off to a fill-in being a quick, temporary fill-in is if, as in this case, Eichenberger is using Foskett's guitar. That typically means it was a quick, perhaps last minute, short-term deal.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 01, 2019, 12:14:32 PM
Foskett was present on 2/2/2019 so I think he misses some gigs but not others.

For Bruce being all over the place, check out this clip. He has cue cards for some reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnzYw7p3qCI

I've noticed those as well but have never had a vantage point to read them. Gosh that clip was rough, all the way around...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE-Holland on April 12, 2019, 07:19:46 AM
Last minute additions to the European 2019 tour: 2 concerts in The Netherlands:

July 3rd: Nieuwe Luxor Theater, Rotterdam
https://www.luxortheater.nl/voorstellingen/4614/Met_Mike_Love_en_Bruce_Johnston/The_Beach_Boys_USA_/

July 5th: Tweede Maasvlakte, Rotterdam, with the (Dutch) Rotterdams Philharmonic Orchestra
https://www.spido.nl/tochten-cruises/concert-the-beach-boys-en-het-rotterdams-philharmonisch-orkest



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: JK on April 12, 2019, 10:43:43 AM
Last minute additions to the European 2019 tour: 2 concerts in The Netherlands:

July 3rd: Nieuwe Luxor Theater, Rotterdam
https://www.luxortheater.nl/voorstellingen/4614/Met_Mike_Love_en_Bruce_Johnston/The_Beach_Boys_USA_/

July 5th: Tweede Maasvlakte, Rotterdam, with the (Dutch) Rotterdams Philharmonic Orchestra
https://www.spido.nl/tochten-cruises/concert-the-beach-boys-en-het-rotterdams-philharmonisch-orkest

Yep. Noticed those. Saw them a couple of years back in Luxor--and very good they were too.

As a fan of the RPO I'd opt for the second concert. (I believe tickets go on sale tomorrow.) H'mm. We'll see...

In ieder geval hartelijk dank, Klaas. :)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE-Holland on April 12, 2019, 11:42:05 AM
As a fan of the RPO I'd opt for the second concert. (I believe tickets go on sale tomorrow.)

Sale for both concerts started this morning. I already bought tickets for both gigs.




Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocker on April 12, 2019, 12:25:55 PM
Is the list just for US shows? I see that the show Mike & Bruce will play in my hometown of Hannover, Germany on June 18th isn't listed yet.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Justin on April 12, 2019, 07:44:13 PM
I assumed Bruce's keyboard was a prop but this is what I was told by Scott Totten ...


"Bruce's keyboard is always on.  His keyboard is the main sound in DARLIN and the chorus and bridge of VIBES."

Yes, Scott told me the same exact thing. I have watched Bruce's keyboard intently during those songs and others from many viewpoints and at many different concerts and as a pianist myself, I will say with the utmost confidence that the only song he plays EVERY time, is "Disney Girls" on the cheesy 80's EP sound. I have also picked it up occasionally on "Don't Worry Baby" and have seen him give starting pitches for "Their Hearts Were Full of Spring" with that keyboard. That is it. I've never seen or heard anything to indicate playing on "Darlin" or "Good Vibrations". His hands are all over the place...and he is CONSTANTLY obsessed with the mix and signaling to the sound guy which makes it even funnier. The only other speculation I can make, is that he sometimes plays vocal harmony parts that are doubled only for in-ear monitoring and not in the house mix, which would explain why his playing seems out of time and inconsistent.

Cool it. It's obvious that Bruce's keyboard is his personal accompaniment. Just like when a guitar player prefers to play guitar while singing. Is Al Jardine also faking it just because we can't hear his guitar?

Man the hate towards Bruce and Mike on this board is ridiculous.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Woodstock on April 12, 2019, 10:55:14 PM
Bruce is the rhythm piano. Maybe a bit lower in the mix, but it’s no different to Brian, they both play the keys on stage.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on April 13, 2019, 05:04:00 AM
I assumed Bruce's keyboard was a prop but this is what I was told by Scott Totten ...


"Bruce's keyboard is always on.  His keyboard is the main sound in DARLIN and the chorus and bridge of VIBES."

Yes, Scott told me the same exact thing. I have watched Bruce's keyboard intently during those songs and others from many viewpoints and at many different concerts and as a pianist myself, I will say with the utmost confidence that the only song he plays EVERY time, is "Disney Girls" on the cheesy 80's EP sound. I have also picked it up occasionally on "Don't Worry Baby" and have seen him give starting pitches for "Their Hearts Were Full of Spring" with that keyboard. That is it. I've never seen or heard anything to indicate playing on "Darlin" or "Good Vibrations". His hands are all over the place...and he is CONSTANTLY obsessed with the mix and signaling to the sound guy which makes it even funnier. The only other speculation I can make, is that he sometimes plays vocal harmony parts that are doubled only for in-ear monitoring and not in the house mix, which would explain why his playing seems out of time and inconsistent.

Cool it. It's obvious that Bruce's keyboard is his personal accompaniment. Just like when a guitar player prefers to play guitar while singing. Is Al Jardine also faking it just because we can't hear his guitar?

Man the hate towards Bruce and Mike on this board is ridiculous.

No, he's not. I've seen Al Jardine carry his own in a story teller setting on guitar just over a year ago. I've seen Bruce Johnston with The Beach Boys TWELVE times and firmly stand by my statement above...yeah, I'm really fueling the hate on this board by cushioning his piggybank with ticket sales...and that's after being verbally accosted by the prick for no reason two summers ago after a show while waiting to speak to John Cowsill. Also, as a 24/7 musician and teacher of music, Al Jardine is playing the chords in rhythm, occasionally stopping to entice the crowd (since God knows Brian won't) and sits low in the mix for that purpose. Bruce's hands are all over the damn place completely out of rhythm. I know the keys are depressed at times but they following no RHYTHM or personal accompaniment to match the tune as you suggest. That's why I have speculated the vocal harmony cue theory...but even that seems silly....and, when did I show hate towards Mike? With the twelve tickets I've bought of his? How about you cool it and get your facts straight before you start going off for no good reason.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: lastofmykind on April 13, 2019, 05:58:18 PM
Hey Rubber Soul how bout you get your facts straight.  Yes Brucie's piano isnt that high up in the mix. but you to also consider, his piano is an accompaniment to the overall sound.  If you know what to listen for you can quite clearly hear his keyboard live.  For most of the songs he plays a choked 12 string which is meant to accompany the mix, not to be its own stand alone sound.  But I urge you to go back to listen to darlin, and to the semi bridge of good vibrations he plays the tack piano part .  Also if you listen to Hawaii close enough you will actually hear him adding bending of the notes hes playing which is quite prominent.  Obviously he is lead on Disney Girls when its in the set, but his piano is audible you just have to actually listen for it.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on April 13, 2019, 07:36:15 PM
I've definitely noticed the sliding part in Hawaii, mostly in the early 2000's and then again since around 2017/18... He's obviously playing the DX7 patch In Disney Girls, as well as Don't Worry Baby I think. I can't say I've ever noticed the 12 string patch, where can that be heard?

I also agree with the comparison to Al and Brian. I don't have a vendetta to prove against Bruce (which I'll admit some people seem to have), but I do agree that his playing seems rhythmically questionable and sometimes idiosyncratic compared to what the group is playing, but then again, I have no evidence to support that the keyboard is simply a prop- in fact, evidence to support the contrary.  I wouldn't be surprised if the keys were just a prop though. That's the setup BW had at first with his tours. Even Dean Torrence strums his usually unplugged guitar on stage. Singers sometimes need an instrument to feel comfortable, that's nothing new. But because of Bruce's significance as a keyboardist (compared to say Dean Torrence's as a guitarist) I kinda doubt that he'd just stand there pounding inaudible keys every night.

Between quotes from Howie Edelson and Scott Totten, I'm fairly confident Bruce is somewhere , probably usually low, in the mix like Brian and Al. In fact, I wasn't even totally convinced Al could hold his own on guitar (just because of how often he stops playing/being low in the mix) but his storyteller shows proved me wrong, which I was thrilled to see. He can totally play all the rhythm and lead parts with authority. Bruce has proven himself to be a talent on the keys, but I do agree that his hands are all over the keys (in odd places sometimes), that I find myself questioning as a musician. Or take a look at this clip...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh9hhn2C-7g  Bruce is definitely pounding the keys at moments where no melodic/harmonic instruments are audible. You can clearly see him playing the keyboard, but can only hear vocals and drums. That's not to say he isn't buried, or since it is a sound check, the engineer could've simply turned Bruce down to hear the vocals, drums, etc... Interesting nonetheless.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on April 13, 2019, 08:13:51 PM
Here's a great clip to accompany that great response Nate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utHLDoL_n7k

Immediately at the beginning of the clip you can see and hear Bruce play the pitch bend however, it sounds to me like his basic DX7 sound just like Disney Girls. Hear that "sparkle" in there? It's a little brighter to our ears because of the changing pitch so I can see why it might sound like a 12-string function.

Then, from 1:04-1:14, the camera stays on Bruce and you can clearly watch (count the four beats of each measure in your head while you watch...not seconds, but beats) and you'll see that his hands (when they move) don't move in any rhythmic pattern or accuracy...they do not land on a steady beat, or even an off beat. It's completely random placement at best. I'm not saying you denounced this, just another example.

"lastofmykind"- ...my, what a depressing name. Alas, you obviously did not read my posts clearly. I'm not dignifying yours with a productive response.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: thatjacob on April 13, 2019, 08:54:51 PM
new Biltmore gig announced in Asheville, NC July 25th. https://www.biltmore.com/concerts (https://www.biltmore.com/concerts)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on April 13, 2019, 09:40:21 PM
Boy, can't believe to see such weird defense replies to RubberSoul13's well-written, qualified fan posts. Folks, quit defending Bruce pls, RS13 didn't say anything super-mean towards Bruce. What's the outcries for? He went to M&B shows, read: actually been there, witnessed it. Let the fellow fan speak, what's the big deal. If smb. brings valid points, it should be read without getting worked up. BBs shouldn't be above criticism, including Bruce.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on April 14, 2019, 04:08:37 AM
I'll add one more fact that maybe I should have from the beginning, which is the source of my dismay and annoyance with Bruce as a musician: He has ALWAYS been THE most gifted instrumentalist of all the official Beach Boys. No question, no one else comes close. I'm not denying his ability however, if you don't use it...you do lose it...so I sure hope he is using his skills in other venues off the Beach Boys stage because they were indeed, a gift.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on April 14, 2019, 09:19:40 AM
I was talking to my friend about the Bruce playing vs miming thing, and he pointed out something that's fairly obvious, that many of us (including myself) overlook. We're constantly searching for clips that prove Bruce is audible or inaudible, to prove an argument, that he other does always play or doesn't. My friend pointed out, he might just play sometimes when he feels like it, or has a designated part from Scott, but he might turn the volume down if he's focusing on singing or can't remember the changes for the particular section of a song or something. For years I've been one of the people possibly perpetuating the idea that Bruce is using a prop, but it's not out of malice. I'm just genuinely confused (and kinda bummed) why such a phenomenal keyboardist doesn't show his props. I think it would be pretty cool if the group did Disney Girls, in an even more stripped-down fashion, with Bruce playing a "lead" piano, with all the flourishes he did here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63NBh0NqaLY) instead of just the little noodling on the DX7 patch. I understand Brian and Al coasting instrumentally: their talents were more in the singing and writing/producing respectfully. I honestly equate Bruce playing his quiet "rhythm" DX7 piano to if Paul McCartney coasted by strumming a nearly silent guitar, instead of playing his famous bass lines. I'm not trying to knock Bruce. I also am not trying to knock what he does in the band. "Rhythm" piano and other accompaniment instruments are very important, sometimes I just wish those parts would be delegated to Tim B for a song or two for Bruce to really show off. But I also understand if Bruce wants to focus on singing. Singing BBs harmonies is HARD.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: GuyO on April 15, 2019, 08:35:31 PM
I just bought tickets fir the 5 July 2019 concert. I noticed that Jeff Foskett was not mentioned as part of the backing group. The band will consist of: Tim Bonhomme, John Cowsill, Christian Love, Brian Eichenberger, Randy Leago, Keith Hubacher and Scott Totten.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Rob Dean on April 15, 2019, 10:57:58 PM
I just bought tickets fir the 5 July 2029 concert. I noticed that Jeff Foskett was not mentioned as part of the backing group. The band will consist of: Tim Bonhomme, John Cowsill, Christian Love, Brian Eichenberger, Randy Leago, Keith Hubacher and Scott Totten.
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2029 ?? blimey talk about selling tickets in advance   :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: GuyO on April 16, 2019, 09:48:42 AM
;-)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocker on May 05, 2019, 01:36:10 AM
Mike and Bruce will play in Freiburg, Germany on July 22nd at the "Zelt-Musik-Festival". Here's an article:

http://fudder.de/die-beach-boys-spielen-2019-auf-dem-zmf-aber-nur-zum-teil--159118416.html

The article mentioned that there is one little hitch and that is that "founding members Brian Wilson, Al Jardine and almost-founding member David Marks" won't be there.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on May 06, 2019, 12:07:23 PM
Does anyone have pics/video/audio from the recent Oklahoma show in which Dean Torrence played with Mike? I saw on setlist fm that Surf City and Little Old Lady were inserted after Rhonda and before Barbara Ann, which makes for a great little J&D section. Technically, J&D sang Barbara Ann before The Beach Boys did! Normally, Dean sings the falsetto part (as a dual lead with Chris Farmer or Matt Jardine) on Barbara Ann with his group, would be cool if he doubled up with Ike.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on May 07, 2019, 06:31:11 AM
Oops put this in wrong thread. Someone else gave details in correct thread (BW tour 2019)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on May 09, 2019, 10:36:50 PM
I used to laugh when someone would say Bruce was unquestionably the most talented instrumentalist in the Beach Boys. I don't laugh anymore, I've seen some old clips where he is playing some very nice stuff, but it's just so odd, then, that a guy with great talent as a musician chooses to just be a hand clapper and harmony singer at year after year of shows. Can you imagine, if Carl was still alive, and he stood there with a guitar that he occasionally strummed, mostly ignored, while someone else did all those great CW guitar parts?
Looking forward to seeing the guys in September, and i'm probably the one person looking forward to hearing a couple songs from Unleash the Love live.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: All Summer Long on May 10, 2019, 05:11:52 AM
I used to laugh when someone would say Bruce was unquestionably the most talented instrumentalist in the Beach Boys. I don't laugh anymore, I've seen some old clips where he is playing some very nice stuff, but it's just so odd, then, that a guy with great talent as a musician chooses to just be a hand clapper and harmony singer at year after year of shows. Can you imagine, if Carl was still alive, and he stood there with a guitar that he occasionally strummed, mostly ignored, while someone else did all those great CW guitar parts?
Looking forward to seeing the guys in September, and i'm probably the one person looking forward to hearing a couple songs from Unleash the Love live.


You'd think he'd want to show off his chops on the keys.  I'm used to it with Bruce, though; being a guitarist, had it been Carl, I would have been very disappointed.  Seeing the group in August and I'll be interested to see if Ike is still subbing for Foskett at this point and what happens (since it's an outside show) if I just yell for some random deep cut.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on May 10, 2019, 05:21:46 AM
Bruce has been on auto pilot for years, he collects his checks and probably laughs all the way to the bank. Has to be the cushiest job in today's rock n roll touring circuit.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on May 10, 2019, 09:42:27 AM
Bruce has been on auto pilot for years, he collects his checks and probably laughs all the way to the bank. Has to be the cushiest job in today's rock n roll touring circuit.


Absolutely, Tony and just one of the many reasons not to go to the fake Beach Boys cover band gig.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on May 10, 2019, 10:26:41 AM
I've never gone to see the Boys since Carl's passing. Nothing against them, and they sound pretty good nowadays, just no desire to see them perform. Too many great memories of seeing the Boys live, with basically the principles through the years. The Beach Boys were always more to me than just the music, though of course that's the main thing. They were the 5 or 6 personalities that comprised the original band; that was magic to me, and it's hard for me to go see the band today or over the course of the past 20+ years, that bills itself as the Beach Boys, when I just don't consider them to be. I will say, I went to the 50th anniversary shows with Brian and those shows were great, primarily because of the deep cut song selections. Brian and Al helped to make it more original, though missing Carl and Denny is tough to overcome.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on May 10, 2019, 10:41:14 AM
I've never gone to see the Boys since Carl's passing. Nothing against them, and they sound pretty good nowadays, just no desire to see them perform. Too many great memories of seeing the Boys live, with basically the principles through the years. The Beach Boys were always more to me than just the music, though of course that's the main thing. They were the 5 or 6 personalities that comprised the original band; that was magic to me, and it's hard for me to go see the band today or over the course of the past 20+ years, that bills itself as the Beach Boys, when I just don't consider them to be. I will say, I went to the 50th anniversary shows with Brian and those shows were great, primarily because of the deep cut song selections. Brian and Al helped to make it more original, though missing Carl and Denny is tough to overcome.

My thoughts exactly. Nice post.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on May 10, 2019, 11:57:32 AM
... missing Carl and Denny is tough to overcome.

Yep, amen to that sentiment.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on May 10, 2019, 05:26:05 PM
... missing Carl and Denny is tough to overcome.

Yep, amen to that sentiment.
I felt the same way for a long time, but one of my best friends saw them the last time they were in town, and that made me wish I had gone. And i'm curious to here how Mike's new songs sound live. These guys won't be around forever; I saw Brian back in 2000, now it's Mike's turn.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on May 22, 2019, 05:57:00 AM
New Mike and Bruce date:
Sept. 1 -- Vancouver, BC -- Pacific National Exhibition

There's a fan club pre-sale today at:
https://ticketleader.ca/events/summer-night-concerts-2019

Starts at 6 a.m. PT



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on June 05, 2019, 10:03:15 AM
A little snippet of Marky sitting in with America's Band

https://livemusicblog.com/news/marky-ramone-joins-the-beach-boys-mike-love-for-rockaway-beach-live/


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on June 05, 2019, 10:54:48 AM
A little snippet of Marky sitting in with America's Band

https://livemusicblog.com/news/marky-ramone-joins-the-beach-boys-mike-love-for-rockaway-beach-live/

Yikes. Backdrop screen promoting a Mike Love single... brand confusion there anyone? But the song sounds pretty good live.



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on June 05, 2019, 12:05:15 PM
I have sometimes wondered if anyone in these audiences who *doesn't* know the ins and outs of the band name license are asking themselves (or others) why these new albums and "singles" are being released as "Mike Love" product instead of "Beach Boys" given that Mike isn't out there putting BB tours on hold to tour solo and seems to plug his solo stuff "live" pretty much exclusively during "Beach Boys" concert and TV appearances.

The only relatively full-length gig I can think of that *may* have been billed as a "Mike Love" gig was a premiere party or two he did for "Unleash" and/or his XMas album, and even that was confusing as he was ostensibly maybe doing a "solo" gig, but still using the "Beach Boys" touring band and also doing some BB numbers.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: marcusb on June 06, 2019, 08:07:29 AM
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Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on June 06, 2019, 06:23:05 PM
I have sometimes wondered if anyone in these audiences who *doesn't* know the ins and outs of the band name license are asking themselves (or others) why these new albums and "singles" are being released as "Mike Love" product instead of "Beach Boys" given that Mike isn't out there putting BB tours on hold to tour solo and seems to plug his solo stuff "live" pretty much exclusively during "Beach Boys" concert and TV appearances.

The only relatively full-length gig I can think of that *may* have been billed as a "Mike Love" gig was a premiere party or two he did for "Unleash" and/or his XMas album, and even that was confusing as he was ostensibly maybe doing a "solo" gig, but still using the "Beach Boys" touring band and also doing some BB numbers.
I don't think the non die-hards even worry about this kind of stuff. It would be like fans wondering why Carl was singing a solo single during the 1983 shows. Or why is Tom Petty taking the Heartbreakers on tour to support his solo album Full Moon Fever?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: UEF on June 08, 2019, 10:39:02 AM
Had a YOLO moment and booked myself onto the Albert Hall in London. Still a few seats dotted about there. Shame they’re not doing Glastonbury, timing would’ve been perfect.

Also, first post! Hello!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on June 08, 2019, 08:05:24 PM
Had a YOLO moment and booked myself onto the Albert Hall in London. Still a few seats dotted about there. Shame they’re not doing Glastonbury, timing would’ve been perfect.

Also, first post! Hello!

Welcome and enjoy! Without a C50 type lineup, I don't see Glastonbury in the cards for Mike and Bruce, ever.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocker on June 09, 2019, 04:56:39 AM
Had a YOLO moment and booked myself onto the Albert Hall in London. Still a few seats dotted about there. Shame they’re not doing Glastonbury, timing would’ve been perfect.

Also, first post! Hello!


Hi and welcome!




Had a YOLO moment and booked myself onto the Albert Hall in London. Still a few seats dotted about there. Shame they’re not doing Glastonbury, timing would’ve been perfect.

Also, first post! Hello!

Welcome and enjoy! Without a C50 type lineup, I don't see Glastonbury in the cards for Mike and Bruce, ever.




Yes, it's usually Brian who gets invited to these big things. Here is his phenomenal Glastonbury appearance from 2005:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSa1KjPxeq0



Mike and Bruce as "The Beach Boys" just don't have the same standing in the business as Brian and/or The Beach Boys including Brian.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: UEF on June 12, 2019, 02:06:43 AM
Indeed, that Glastonbury 2005 gig remains the only time I've seen anything Beach Boys-related, sadly.

Was a great gig, someone was surfing over the crowd with a surfboard, the sun was out.

People thought then that Brian didn't seem to do a lot of singing or playing and just sorta sat there and waved his arms around a bit, and that was in 2005  :lol great times...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: GuyO on June 17, 2019, 10:14:24 PM
I have ticket for the Beach Boys concert at the Maasvlakte in Rotterdam but unfortunately no way of transport. Can anyone from the area going to the show give me a lift? I live near Rotterdam.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: UEF on June 24, 2019, 04:57:22 AM
Off to see the old boys tonight at the Albert Hall just before leaving for Glastonbury. Lovely venue, should be fun :-)

Mike Love has posted a video to instagram of some sort of orchestra rehearsal for this, not sure if that's the usual group or something drafted in for the Royal Albert Hall


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on June 24, 2019, 07:19:07 PM
Looks like it was a pretty amazing setlist! Aside from the selections from Mike's album, I've never heard "All I Wanna Do" or "Till I Die" performed by any number of Beach Boys live on stage! Cool stuff!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: marcella27 on June 24, 2019, 08:13:38 PM
I saw them at RAH a couple of years ago.  It’s quite a place to see them. 
Just wondering, who sang lead on Sail on Sailor and Summertime Blues? 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: markb on June 25, 2019, 12:12:31 AM
Mike sang ‘ Summertime Blues’. Christian sang ‘Sailor ‘ . He also did ‘’Caroline No ‘ and ‘God Only Knows’. They did NOT do All I wanna do’ though. Fantastic performance all round. Massively impressed by the new guy on bass and what he brought to the sound in general. First half was as good as I have seen either of the bands over the last five years. Second half I felt wasn’t helped by the Mike solo stuff and’ Kokomo’ which seemed to slow everything down. That said the version of ‘ Till I Die ‘ was reverential in detail and quality. Having greater numbers on stage has paid considerable  dividends for Mike .


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Sam_BFC on June 25, 2019, 06:47:10 AM
I thought Mike sounded very strong most of the time, only a little shaky on Kiss Me Baby.

Highlights for me were It’s Ok, Hearts (though I wish they’d sing it a little slower) and finally seeing Christian Love who does have a good voice along with the family connection which does add extra weight for me. Also really pleased they did Til I Die because when they did it in May 2015 some fuckwits ruined it for me talking, laughing and pouring champagne for themselves during the whole thing  :o

I thought the second set was stronger than the first, might just be me but first set didn’t feel fully tight.

I love Brian E on most songs but dare I say it Jeff’s absence wasn’t entirely unnoticed.

There was a political moment where Mike implied an American politician (AOC?) wanted to ban air travel which then led on to a Brexit comment that I didn’t quite understand but Bruce certainly enjoyed it  :lol

Blows my mind really that with all that history Mike and Bruce are still out there doing it and sounding pretty pretty good.

To compare to my most recent Brian gig which was near the end of last year in Toronto, the lows were obviously lower then (namely the Pet Sounds portion) however the first part of that gig remains hard to beat for me in terms of recent live shows...that said last night didn’t really have any lows to speak of.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on June 25, 2019, 03:32:02 PM
I watched Mike's version of Here Comes the Sun on YouTube just now. George must be turning over in his grave it is God awful.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on June 25, 2019, 06:49:13 PM
I watched Mike's version of Here Comes the Sun on YouTube just now. George must be turning over in his grave it is God awful.

Tony, can't find this. Can you help?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on June 25, 2019, 07:40:34 PM
Here Comes The Sun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ocVBm_aU-E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ocVBm_aU-E)



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on June 25, 2019, 08:08:27 PM
Here Comes The Sun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ocVBm_aU-E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ocVBm_aU-E)




Thanks, Craig. The Kokomization of a great Harrison song that only Mike Love could successfully screw up. Awful as expected.  ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: marcella27 on June 25, 2019, 09:34:12 PM
That is a truly awful cover version.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: BeachBoysCovers on June 26, 2019, 12:45:50 AM
4/5 star review in the Telegraph. Seemingly it lost a star for being too long... just skip all that boring stuff and get to Barbara Ann

Quote
The one problem was that the concert was too long. They could have lopped off 18 songs, ditched the interval and played 30 all-out bangers instead (that’s still five more songs than The Eagles currently play live, and 10 more than The Rolling Stones).

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/what-to-listen-to/beach-boys-review-royal-albert-hall-timeless-songs-triumph/


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on June 26, 2019, 01:03:11 AM
Think the HCTS arrangment is kinda interesting but doesn't seem to be in the right key for Mike to sing it. Christian Love sounds good on SOS. John Coswill does a good job on Cottonfields...I never liked him on Wild Honey.

Must be strange for Mike's band to play a great venue like that to what looks like a full house and then go back to playing state fairs and casinos.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on June 26, 2019, 07:56:39 AM
I don't dig the cover at all, and not the specific performance in the video but just overall. Here Comes The Sun, besides being one of the most beloved songs of the past 50 years that has touched and affected millions upon millions of listeners including myself, is one of the most uplifting and positive songs ever recorded...and one of the best records ever made. Just as the intro to California Girls uses majestic musicality and arrangement to depict a sunrise through music, and something like the Rascals' "It's A Beautiful Morning" literally sounds like someone walking out their door to start a beautiful day and enjoy the moment, Here Comes The Sun *sounds and feels* exactly like what George is singing about, through the sound and arrangement.

Now, with this cover, it's become an adult contemporary near-dirge-like ballad with an easy listening pseudo-Latin-bossa drum groove, and the glory and happiness and excitement of the original song is lost. For whatever reason, this version sounds depressing, and how that can happen to one of the most joyous songs in modern times is a mystery to me. Mike sounds like he's delivering a sad eulogy rather than celebrating a beautiful day to come, and it's a baffling choice.

I also think it's ironic that it sounds like an outtake from Brian's "Imagination" album, when the AC tendencies were at their worst.

And it's odd how they did both this AND Pisces Brothers in the same show. One dirge-like Harrison tribute is enough, perhaps? Or too much.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on June 26, 2019, 01:40:27 PM
4/5 star review in the Telegraph. Seemingly it lost a star for being too long... just skip all that boring stuff and get to Barbara Ann

Quote
The one problem was that the concert was too long. They could have lopped off 18 songs, ditched the interval and played 30 all-out bangers instead (that’s still five more songs than The Eagles currently play live, and 10 more than The Rolling Stones).

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/what-to-listen-to/beach-boys-review-royal-albert-hall-timeless-songs-triumph/

Is it just me or do they always do an extended set list in this venue?
The Beach Boys are still going strong in 2019!!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: CenturyDeprived on June 26, 2019, 02:00:44 PM
That is a truly awful cover version.

I think this is merely mediocre. Although I just played it for my coworker who said it was "brutal". IMO Mike's lead vocal is certainly unfortunately pretty lifeless and dispassionate. I'll at least give credit that the M&B band is trying to do something different and a bit interesting musically between the verses.

If you're gonna do a cover song, might as well try to do something "new" and bring some interesting melodies to it, and Mike's band has at least done that.

Now if we want to talk Mike Love-sung Beatles covers that are "truly awful", this "Imagine" cover from 1983 (with a corporate-sponsored Mike proudly wearing a Radio Shack hat while singing a song that's supposed to be an anti-corporate anthem) is indeed truly awful on pretty much every level:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mALKo_QDLrU


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on June 26, 2019, 04:42:57 PM
Truly AWWWWWWFUL!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on June 26, 2019, 07:00:42 PM
Truly AWWWWWWFUL!


I sang along with this abomination all the while holding my nose. Can you imagine the ego of this stool sample absolutely destroying Lennon's classic? How this clown can go on stage and do the things he does like this are truly unfathomable. He does not care because he is unbridled and will do anything to not only destroy the legacy but to make people believe he's even worthy to do a take on a great song when everyone knows he can't hold the proverbial candle to Lennon, Brian Wilson or anyone else that matters. He should been escorted off the stage or have been booed until he left the stage. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on June 26, 2019, 07:57:16 PM
Truly AWWWWWWFUL!


I sang along with this abomination all the while holding my nose. Can you imagine the ego of this stool sample absolutely destroying Lennon's classic? How this clown can go on stage and do the things he does like this are truly unfathomable. He does not care because he is unbridled and will do anything to not only destroy the legacy but to make people believe he's even worthy to do a take on a great song when everyone knows he can't hold the proverbial candle to Lennon, Brian Wilson or anyone else that matters. He should been escorted off the stage or have been booed until he left the stage. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

George Harrison is the composer of "Here Comes The Sun".


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on June 26, 2019, 08:04:13 PM
Truly AWWWWWWFUL!


I sang along with this abomination all the while holding my nose. Can you imagine the ego of this stool sample absolutely destroying Lennon's classic? How this clown can go on stage and do the things he does like this are truly unfathomable. He does not care because he is unbridled and will do anything to not only destroy the legacy but to make people believe he's even worthy to do a take on a great song when everyone knows he can't hold the proverbial candle to Lennon, Brian Wilson or anyone else that matters. He should been escorted off the stage or have been booed until he left the stage. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

George Harrison is the composer of "Here Comes The Sun".

Uh, I was referencing Mike Love's horrible rendition of "Imagine", but thanks anyway.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: 18thofMay on June 26, 2019, 10:56:06 PM
Here Comes The Sun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ocVBm_aU-E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ocVBm_aU-E)


f*** me dead! That's horrendous!!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on June 27, 2019, 03:52:15 AM
Probably one of the most iconic songs ever written. Certainly Harrison's best right up there with something. Such an upbeat wonderful tune and love absolutely destroys it. This guy should be ushered off the stage just for performing this song in such a poor manner. Sacrilege


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Matt H on June 27, 2019, 05:37:44 AM
Probably one of the most iconic songs ever written. Certainly Harrison's best right up there with something. Such an upbeat wonderful tune and love absolutely destroys it. This guy should be ushered off the stage just for performing this song in such a poor manner. Sacrilege

To be fair, he gave the disclaimer at the beginning that every note of that arrangement was Totten's.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on June 27, 2019, 06:21:16 AM
I don't know why I just assumed Mike's album would have a pretty standard remake of "Here Comes the Sun" if he was inclined to do it. I'm all for trying to do something different, but that is a truly tedious, soporific take on the song. Trying to give the "Daybreak Over the Ocean/Sumahama" arrangement to "Here Comes the Sun" just doesn't work. Altering the chord changes especially doesn't work on this one.

There was apparently a review of a recent UK show Mike did where the reviewer essentially said the show was too long. Obviously, this generally sounds crazy to fans. Who wouldn't want to hear a longer show?

So while I applaud the general idea of doing a bunch of deep cuts as Mike is doing (that he's doing them with mostly surrogate singers doing credible but generic, bland lead vocals is a separate issue), I would say objectively his recent setlists have some pretty surprising pacing problems. He actually does "Pisces Brothers" and this new languid arrangement of "Here Comes the Sun" *back to back*. That's pretty taxing on any audience; I can understand a reviewer scratching their head at nearly 10 minutes straight of tedium.

Also surprised Mike has thrown in an unremarkable "California Sun" into the opening run of songs at his shows. Does any "Beach Boys" show, even Mike's licensed version, really need *both* "California Sun" and "Summertime Blues" (and "Rockaway Beach") in the setlist?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RJM on June 27, 2019, 12:27:24 PM
For a guy who calls himself Mr. Positivity, Mike sure as hell sucked all of the joy out of one of the most joyous songs the Beatles ever did.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on June 27, 2019, 12:50:56 PM
A really turgid version of "Here Comes the Sun" maybe arguably has a place on some sort of studio release. But to do "Pisces Brothers" and this new sloooow remake of HCTS back-to-back in concert is just bizarre.

Even many Mike apologists and fans have found "Pisces Brothers" tedious, yet it has been in his setlist *for years*, pre-dating the "Unleash" album.

What's odd about this is that the band, including Mike (but not *just* Mike) seemed to be very trigger-shy back in the 80s and especially 90s when it came to doing obscure and/or slow and/or new stuff in concert. They'd usually push through and do some new album stuff for a little bit, but it would usually be dropped within months, sometimes weeks. They seemed to sometimes *over-analyze* the restlessness of audiences and felt compelled to *not* slow the show down too much. Even when they added over a dozen songs to the setlist to promote the GV boxed set in late '93, that "boxed set tour" lasted for a few weeks at the most, right?

Yet, Mike has pushed through with stuff like "Pisces Brothers" for *years* now.

Imagine if the band had kept "Problem Child" in the setlist for the entire decade of the 90s. Imagine if they were still doing the disco remake of "Here Comes the Night" in 1987.

Remember back in 1999/2000 when Al Jardine's setlists were being picked apart in those BRI lawsuits? Al was doing stuff like "You Still Believe In Me" and they were acting like Al had added a mini-set of Frank Zappa tunes or something. Yet now, with full autonomy, Mike regularly packs his "Beach Boys" shows with a myriad of solo tracks.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: twentytwenty on June 27, 2019, 01:20:46 PM
Doesn't Bruce have any solos left in the set?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Jim V. on June 27, 2019, 02:09:15 PM
There was a political moment where Mike implied an American politician (AOC?) wanted to ban air travel which then led on to a Brexit comment that I didn’t quite understand but Bruce certainly enjoyed it  :lol

Ugh. So politics are once again rearing their ugly head into Beach Boys land. Perhaps Mike and Bruce will revamp "Bush vibrations" to "Trump vibrations" for next year's election? Just freaking wonderful.

:thud


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: UEF on June 27, 2019, 05:36:50 PM
So I was sat sideways on from the state for this and could reasonably see what each person was playing.

I’m convinced Bruce’s keyboard either isn’t plugged in or isn’t in the mix at all. When his fingers were on the keys nothing changes. Is he miming? Playing for his own monitors?



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Jim V. on June 27, 2019, 09:42:39 PM
So I was sat sideways on from the state for this and could reasonably see what each person was playing.

I’m convinced Bruce’s keyboard either isn’t plugged in or isn’t in the mix at all. When his fingers were on the keys nothing changes. Is he miming? Playing for his own monitors?



Those in the know say he's really playing and that's only in his ear monitor for the most part to help with vocals and whatnot. And apparently if they play "Disney Girls" you can hear it in all its 1980s DX7 glory.

Now don't take any of that as gospel, I may have it slightly (or fully) wrong.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: UEF on June 28, 2019, 05:20:08 AM
I think that’s pretty much it


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on June 28, 2019, 03:48:05 PM
Here Comes The Sun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ocVBm_aU-E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ocVBm_aU-E)
:-D Is it joke? Hilarious.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: ReggieDunbar on June 29, 2019, 10:53:22 AM
Just got back from France, hottest day of the year. Beach Boys playing at Olympia was a real highlight of the vacation!

Not many Smileysmile board members in the crowds, I met a russian fan who had flown from Moscow and a woman from Tokyo both in Paris only for this show.
 
The setlist was resembling to RAH two days earlier. 46 songs with a very few dull moments.
The audience was on fire, indoors and with a capacity of 1800 it was very intimate. People sat down for most part of the first hour (before intermission). Standing ovations and applause to Bruce & Mike that felt like they never end after California Girls.

Mikes voice was in excellent condition and so was Bruce. First time in a long while that I've heard Bruce really singing with his full range, capacity and strength! He sang Please Let me Wonder with the original phrasing. Later he was dancing behind his keyboard, made his famous jump and clearly enjoying the show. It was his birthday and he got cake on stage and everybody sang happy birthday.

Also, first time I heard Ike and I must say: I like Ike! He's version of Good To My Baby was A++
Christian sounded nice on Sailor and GOK. I don't really like him on GV or Rhonda though

Minus: I would trade Pisces and All the love in Paris for songs from the BB-catalog.
Highlight: Mike and Bruce taking turns on Here Today!

(https://i.postimg.cc/g0xJNSy7/65440963-443323042883634-7844567022351417344-n.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: marcella27 on June 29, 2019, 12:03:37 PM
Here Comes The Sun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ocVBm_aU-E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ocVBm_aU-E)
:-D Is it joke? Hilarious.


Unfortunately I don't think it is. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on July 02, 2019, 06:08:05 PM
Stamos is hosting A Capitol Fourth on PBS this year, I’m surprised Mike and his guys aren’t on the bill as they’ve done it many times in the past, especially with Stamos involved.  Are they playing a show that night or maybe they’re making a surprise appearance. http://www.pbs.org/a-capitol-fourth/concert/performers/


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RJM on July 02, 2019, 07:16:53 PM
Stamos is hosting A Capitol Fourth on PBS this year, I’m surprised Mike and his guys aren’t on the bill as they’ve done it many times in the past, especially with Stamos involved.  Are they playing a show that night or maybe they’re making a surprise appearance. http://www.pbs.org/a-capitol-fourth/concert/performers/

According to Mike’s website, they will be in Holland. They have shows in Rotterdam on Wednesday and Friday.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 02, 2019, 08:22:30 PM
Stamos is hosting A Capitol Fourth on PBS this year, I’m surprised Mike and his guys aren’t on the bill as they’ve done it many times in the past, especially with Stamos involved.  Are they playing a show that night or maybe they’re making a surprise appearance. http://www.pbs.org/a-capitol-fourth/concert/performers/

This is by no means an attempt to discuss OUR political opinions...does anyone know if Stamos is a Trump supporter? I always assumed that he was involved before BECAUSE of The Beach Boys. I find it interesting that he is opting to host this without their presence as typically the acts are openly conservative bands/artists.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on July 02, 2019, 11:47:01 PM
Stamos is hosting A Capitol Fourth on PBS this year, I’m surprised Mike and his guys aren’t on the bill as they’ve done it many times in the past, especially with Stamos involved.  Are they playing a show that night or maybe they’re making a surprise appearance. http://www.pbs.org/a-capitol-fourth/concert/performers/

This is by no means an attempt to discuss OUR political opinions...does anyone know if Stamos is a Trump supporter? I always assumed that he was involved before BECAUSE of The Beach Boys. I find it interesting that he is opting to host this without their presence as typically the acts are openly conservative bands/artists.

I don’t think that’s true.  I mean, Carole King is headlining this year, she’s as liberal as they get.  I’ve always thought of Capitol Fourth to be an apolitical event.  PBS programming in general rarely is the sort that appeals to the Trump voter demographic.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on July 03, 2019, 01:03:40 AM
Speaking as a non American.

It is very sad that this even needs to be considered. I do remember when the BBs were banned in the early 80s and the feeling that James Watt was just an idiot first and foremost, the party didn’t even come into it. Sure, Reagan stepped in but it was just the right thing to do. Period.

Today the first thought seems to be ‘are they Republicans or Democrats?’. I feel sorry for Americans that this is the case today and you can’t have a Fourth of July Celebration because....it’s the Fourth of July.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Cabinessenceking on July 03, 2019, 05:16:56 AM
Truly sad indeed. It is gut wrenching to imagine members of my favourite group being seen next to that creature they elected leader. It's a consolation that neither of the Wilsons or Jardine would ever consider being seen in any connection to what's going on right now.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 03, 2019, 05:49:40 AM
Stamos is hosting A Capitol Fourth on PBS this year, I’m surprised Mike and his guys aren’t on the bill as they’ve done it many times in the past, especially with Stamos involved.  Are they playing a show that night or maybe they’re making a surprise appearance. http://www.pbs.org/a-capitol-fourth/concert/performers/

This is by no means an attempt to discuss OUR political opinions...does anyone know if Stamos is a Trump supporter? I always assumed that he was involved before BECAUSE of The Beach Boys. I find it interesting that he is opting to host this without their presence as typically the acts are openly conservative bands/artists.

I don’t think that’s true.  I mean, Carole King is headlining this year, she’s as liberal as they get.  I’ve always thought of Capitol Fourth to be an apolitical event.  PBS programming in general rarely is the sort that appeals to the Trump voter demographic.

Very cool! I don't routinely follow it. I'm always delighted to see Carole King out and performing for anything. I've made a point to watch it when The Beach Boys have been on and it was just an observation that when they performed, it was typically openly conservative groups/musicians on the bill with them.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on July 03, 2019, 07:00:36 AM
I once worked for a PBS station, so I know this one. A Capitol Forth is PBS' programming and has been going on for a long time. It's a live show, with an audience present, but ultimately aimed at a TV audience. Not political, just a birthday party for the USA.



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Cabinessenceking on July 03, 2019, 09:12:40 AM
I once worked for a PBS station, so I know this one. A Capitol Forth is PBS' programming and has been going on for a long time. It's a live show, with an audience present, but ultimately aimed at a TV audience. Not political, just a birthday party for the USA.



A crying shame that the national non-political birthday party is being hijacked by that detestable embarrassment to human dignity for his own political glorification. Imagine the backlash if it were Obama promising parades tanks and aircraft...

Sad to witness, but the United States of America is going down rapidly these days. And I used to be one of few to highlight the positives of the USA in conversations with friends. Quite sad, but relieved to no longer be that guy.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on July 03, 2019, 09:51:27 AM
(Saying I'm not enamored of the current administration would be putting it mildly, but I'd rather see the political discussion stay in the Sandbox.)

Back to Mike and Bruce tour discussion. They were wise to tour Europe this particular summer.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 03, 2019, 02:17:27 PM
Yes, as I previously said...no need to take it there, while over here.

It seems to me that the European tour is going quite well. With the exception of that review saying they played too long, I'm hearing and reading nothing but positives. Imagine if Mike and Co. spent a solid year just touring other parts of the world aside from the USA. I'd think their demand could probably increase slightly upon return the following year however, they're all climbing in age a bit too much to make plans for 2+ years down the road, on the road!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE-Holland on July 04, 2019, 06:18:42 AM
I was at the concert in Het Nieuwe Luxortheater in Rotterdam yesterday (July 3rd). A good and solid show. See setlist below. I thought both Mike and Bruce's voice held up quite well. And Brian Eichenbacher and Christian Love leads were good imo. The number of leadvocs by John and Scott seem to decrease... Nice to hear Mike speak fondly on his memories of their stay in The Netherlands while recording the Holland album. The Dec. 1970 night concert in Amsterdam (which was delayed almost 5 hours due to fog) was mentioned as well. They do remember those bits of history.

The band (and families) are enjoying a free day today (very appropriate on July 4th). Tomorrow another show, near Rotterdam on the Tweede Maasvlakte. The exact location is unknown, but it's most probably on the beach. When travelling by car one apparently simply has to follow the signs when arriving in the area. From the parking lot busses will transport us to the venue. It's a concert with the Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra. A relatively short set - 2 hours (starting at nine o'clock) including an intermission. Probably no rarities to be expected. But special nonetheless. This concert was organised by cruise company Spido to celebrate their 100th anniversary.
https://www.spido.nl/en/tochten-cruises/consert-the-beach-boys-en-het-rotterdams-philharmonisch-orkest (no English page available with general info or for buying tickets)
https://www.rotterdamsphilharmonisch.nl/en/agenda/176/The_Beach_Boys_en_het_Rotterdams_Philharmonisch_Orkest/100_jaar_Spido_The_Beach_Boys/

Setlist Rotterdam, July 3rd 2019:

First set:
1. Do It Again
2. Surfin' Safari
3. California Sun
4. It's O.K.
5. Surfin' U.S.A.
6. Surfer Girl (band)
7. Then I Kissed Her (Eichenbacher)
8. Dance, Dance, Dance
9. Do You Wanna Dance? (BJ)
10. Good To My Baby (Eichenbacher + ML)
11. In My Room (band)
12. When I Grow Up (To Be A Man)
13. Darlin'  (Eichenbacher)
14. Cottonfields (Cowsill)
15. Warmth Of The Sun (Totten)
16. Getcha Back
17. Don't Worry Baby (Eichenbacher)
18. Little Deuce Coupe
19. 409
20. Shut Down
21. I Get Around

Second set
22. California Dreamin'  (Cowsill)
23. California Girls
24. Sloop John B. (Totten + ML)
25. Wouldn't It Be Nice (Eichenbacher)
26. Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring (ML + BJ + Totten + Eichenbacher)
a few lines of I Write The Songs are played/sung during the introduction of grammy winner Bruce
27. Disney Girls (1957) (BJ)
28. Sail On Sailor (Christian Love)
29. All This Is That (Christian Love)
30. God Only Knows (Christian Love)
31. Pisces Brothers
32. Here Comes The Sun
33. Kokomo
34. All Summer Long
35. Help Me, Rhonda (Christian Love)
36. Barbara Ann (band)
37. Rock & Roll Music
38. Summertime Blues
39. Good Vibrations (Christian Love)

Encore:
40. Rockaway Beach
41. Fun, Fun, Fun


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocker on July 04, 2019, 09:04:38 AM
TIL I DIE + GOD ONLY KNOWS + PIECES BROTHERS The Beach Boys Royal Albert Hall London 24 June 2019 4K

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTtFGQjQnK0


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE-Holland on July 04, 2019, 11:18:33 AM
Nice stage on the 5th
https://www.ad.nl/rotterdam/spektakel-mega-podium-op-tweede-maasvlakte-voor-concert-beach-boys~a3b6f580/


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 04, 2019, 12:44:22 PM
I was at the concert in Het Nieuwe Luxortheater in Rotterdam yesterday (July 3rd). A good and solid show. See setlist below. I thought both Mike and Bruce's voice held up quite well. And Brian Eichenbacher and Christian Love leads were good imo. The number of leadvocs by John and Scott seem to decrease... Nice to hear Mike speak fondly on his memories of their stay in The Netherlands while recording the Holland album. The Dec. 1970 night concert in Amsterdam (which was delayed almost 5 hours due to fog) was mentioned as well. They do remember those bits of history.

The band (and families) are enjoying a free day today (very appropriate on July 4th). Tomorrow another show, near Rotterdam on the Tweede Maasvlakte. The exact location is unknown, but it's most probably on the beach. When travelling by car one apparently simply has to follow the signs when arriving in the area. From the parking lot busses will transport us to the venue. It's a concert with the Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra. A relatively short set - 2 hours (starting at nine o'clock) including an intermission. Probably no rarities to be expected. But special nonetheless. This concert was organised by cruise company Spido to celebrate their 100th anniversary.
https://www.spido.nl/en/tochten-cruises/consert-the-beach-boys-en-het-rotterdams-philharmonisch-orkest (no English page available with general info or for buying tickets)
https://www.rotterdamsphilharmonisch.nl/en/agenda/176/The_Beach_Boys_en_het_Rotterdams_Philharmonisch_Orkest/100_jaar_Spido_The_Beach_Boys/

Setlist Rotterdam, July 3rd 2019:

First set:
1. Do It Again
2. Surfin' Safari
3. California Sun
4. It's O.K.
5. Surfin' U.S.A.
6. Surfer Girl (band)
7. Then I Kissed Her (Eichenbacher)
8. Dance, Dance, Dance
9. Do You Wanna Dance? (BJ)
10. Good To My Baby (Eichenbacher + ML)
11. In My Room (band)
12. When I Grow Up (To Be A Man)
13. Darlin'  (Eichenbacher)
14. Cottonfields (Cowsill)
15. Warmth Of The Sun (Totten)
16. Getcha Back
17. Don't Worry Baby (Eichenbacher)
18. Little Deuce Coupe
19. 409
20. Shut Down
21. I Get Around

Second set
22. California Dreamin'  (Cowsill)
23. California Girls
24. Sloop John B. (Totten + ML)
25. Wouldn't It Be Nice (Eichenbacher)
26. Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring (ML + BJ + Totten + Eichenbacher)
a few lines of I Write The Songs are played/sung during the introduction of grammy winner Bruce
27. Disney Girls (1957) (BJ)
28. Sail On Sailor (Christian Love)
29. All This Is That (Christian Love)
30. God Only Knows (Christian Love)
31. Pisces Brothers
32. Here Comes The Sun
33. Kokomo
34. All Summer Long
35. Help Me, Rhonda (Christian Love)
36. Barbara Ann (band)
37. Rock & Roll Music
38. Summertime Blues
39. Good Vibrations (Christian Love)

Encore:
40. Rockaway Beach
41. Fun, Fun, Fun

Thanks for posting!!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on July 05, 2019, 06:52:00 AM
Some thoughts based on the summer tour so far...

The group is totally on fire. They sound totally refreshed and revitalized. Mike and Bruce sound much stronger than they had recently. Notice Mike is moving around the stage much more like he used to as well, not the shuffle we've become accustomed to. I like Foskett, but man, does Ike sound incredible with the group right now. His lead on Don't Worry Baby blows my mind. The setlists right now are pretty fantastic. I don't mind the 12 Sides of Summer cuts, cause I'm a pretty big fan of Rockaway Beach and Its Ok 2018. I've never minded Summertime Blues in a BBs set. It usually gets a great reaction, not to mention they recorded it for Surfin Safari. I've actually never been quite satisfied with any of The BBs related versions of Summertime Blues,  they never had the right punch and energy. I hope this new version changes that, cause it sounds great live. It feels like a great time to see The Beach Boys right now. When Brian recovers, I hope he too benefits from a little break. Mike's current bassist, Keith Hubacher, is totally underrated in these circles. I think he's viewed as disposable since he doesn't sing really, but next time you watch a M&B show (in person or online) listen to Keith's bass playing, He brings a great energy and drive, totally matches Cowsill's drumming style. Together they make songs like Rockaway Beach and Barbara Ann, for example, sound explosive. I can't wait to see the group in August, with Ringo Starr's band. I wonder if Mike will play Pisces Brothers (and/or Here Comes The Sun) with Ringo in attendance. Perhaps Back In The USSR will be brought back if there's any overlap with the groups.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: DC310 on July 05, 2019, 09:06:37 AM
Are there any videos of Brian E singing “Don’t Worry Baby” from recent shows?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: maskedwindsurfer on July 05, 2019, 04:02:38 PM
the whole Paris show :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=552Ms_L-QF0


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 05, 2019, 07:00:18 PM
I will preface this by saying I didn't watch the whole video. I watched approximately minute long clips every five minutes or so and this is what I landed on...

Mike is super out of tune on "Do it Again".
The rest of the surfin songs at the opening are tight af. Nice..diggin' the new "It's OK"

For all the crap I give him, Bruce sounds damn good on "Please Let Me Wonder", this does not contrast well with Mike's short-paced and wobbly lead on "Kiss Me Baby".
...I still do not dig the new "Getcha Back". Totten shouting "MICHAEL" while waiting to start "Darlin'" was priceless...I prefer Cowsill's lead on it though.
On the otherhand, "Do You Wanna Dance" does not sit in a strong spot for Bruce's voice. Yikes.

Beautiful lead from Totten on "Warmth of The Sun". Mike barked the car songs out with the swagger that only he can.
Another beautiful lead, this time from Ike on "You Still Believe in Me". Breathtaking. Weak leads from M&B on "Sloop John B". Hand it off to the young guns.
Yet another surprisingly strong lead from Bruce on "Disney Girls".

I couldn't stomach Pisces Brothers or Here Comes The Sun. Garbage. "Kokomo" sounds tired.
However, nice job burning through the rockers at the ending, including the covers. Well done.



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE-Holland on July 06, 2019, 02:22:13 AM
I had a blast yesterday. The combination with the Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra worked out great. Will tell more later on. But here the setlist.

(http://i65.tinypic.com/nnv31z.jpg)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE-Holland on July 06, 2019, 05:52:39 AM
Futureland, Tweede Maasvlakte, Rotterdam, July 5th 2019

This concert was a special one. The owner of the water tour company Spido wanted to celebrate their 100 year jubilee with a special concert. He had seen the Beach Boys perform in Rotterdam (Nieuwe Luxor Theater) in 2017 and had decided to get this group back in the Netherlands in 2019 for a special concert with the Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra. And so it happened apparently. The location was a special one as well: in the heart of the industrial port area Tweede Maasvlakte. A "new" part of the Netherlands, built where used to be the North Sea. Between the transhipment companies, cranes, and containers a large stage was built where the band could perform. Attendants could go to the venue by boat from the center of Rotterdam (a 2 and a half hour trip with diner, and the same trip back with beverages and food, accompanied by a Joe Cocker tribute band). Or one could go by car, drive to a central parking spot and be transported by a shuttle bus. The latter being a lot cheaper of course. The venue was a closed area , enclosed by containers. Except for the typical sea-smell, the beach atmosphere was nowhere to been seen (except for a few fake palmtrees that were placed along the path from the harbour to the stage). But the location was special nonetheless, seeing the cranes in the distance being operated during the concert and large boats passing by. Mike even made a joke about it when they entered the stage ("you know... we're just doing it for the oil and gas..."). Within the concerts area there were several stalls with beverages and cold/hot snacks. As there were only limited seats available for the disabled and special guests, the atmosphere was that of a festival.

I had already heard from Scott that because of the venue's location, the scheduled starting time (21PM), and the fact that an intermission was planned, a shorter set would be played. The concert would end at 23PM with a firework show, which couldn't be shifted. The concert started 15 minutes too late though, due to the last boat with special guests (including the mayor) arriving too late at the venue. Because of that the intermission was shortened; the band only took a short break during the RPO’s rendition of In My Room.
It was very interesting to see how the orchestra and band collaborated. Mind you that they only had time to talk and practice together during the afternoon prior to the show. And where normally a conductor leads the orchestra and band, in this case she had to follow the band, concentrating on both what the band did and lead the orchestra through it. And she - with the orchestra - did a heck of a job, giving many songs extra punch, or familiar studio sounds (like for example the cello in Good Vibrations). And the Beach Boys clearly appreciated that, letting us know that several times during the concert.

As you can see, compared to the set of two days earlier, they didn't just shortened it, a few other songs were thrown in as well (Catch A Wave, Kiss Me Baby, All The Love In Paris), and was reshuffled quite a bit.  Also noticeable was that Scott didn’t do any leads due to a sour throat. The Boys were in good form again, clearly enjoying the collaboration with an orchestra and the location.

As said the show ended with fireworks, and it closed with the announcement that - because of the 100 year jubilee - Spido was awarded the title "Royal company" by the King of the Netherlands.

Setlist Rotterdam, July 5th 2019:
1. Overture (performed by the Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra)
2. Do It Again
2. Surfin' Safari
3. Catch A Wave (ML + Eichenbacher)
5. Surfin' U.S.A.
6. Surfer Girl (band)
7. Getcha Back
8. Darlin' (Eichenbacher)
9. When I Grow Up (To Be A Man)
10. Kiss Me Baby
11. All The Love In Paris
12. Warmth Of The Sun (Eichenbacher)
13. Don't Worry Baby (Eichenbacher)
14. Little Deuce Coupe
15. I Get Around

16. Intermission / In My Room (performed by the Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra)

17. California Dreamin' (Cowsill)
18. Then I Kissed Her (Eichenbacher)
19. California Girls
20. Sloop John B. (BJ/Totten + ML)
21. Wouldn't It Be Nice (Eichenbacher)
the first 2 notes of I Write The Songs are played/sung during the introduction of grammy winner Bruce
22. Disney Girls (1957) (BJ)
23. God Only Knows (Christian Love)
24. Pisces Brothers
25. Cottonfields (Cowsill)
26. Help Me, Rhonda (Christian Love)
27. Barbara Ann (band)
28. Good Vibrations (Christian Love)
29. Kokomo
30. Fun, Fun, Fun

During the fireworks the Mike Love solo track Make Love Not War was played


Locations Rotterdam concerts Nieuwe Luxor Theater (right) and Futureland, Tweede Maasvlakte (left)

Read more: http://endlessharmony.boards.net/thread/580/beach-boys-2019-tour-rotterdam?page=1#ixzz5suO8ZdxV

(https://imgshare.io/images/2019/07/06/locations-Rodderdam-2019-concerts.jpg)

(https://imgshare.io/images/2019/07/06/location-Futureland.jpg)


The stage was located at where the bus is standing
(https://imgshare.io/images/2019/07/06/location-Futureland-2.jpg)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE-Holland on July 06, 2019, 10:26:14 AM
Pictures from the Luxor Rotterdam July 3rd concert

(https://i.postimg.cc/1zzzPwTm/IMG-1299.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fV6sftDp)

Do You Wanna Dance?
(https://i.postimg.cc/zvTzpjLj/IMG-1303.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dZtcVGjk)

During the car medley
(https://i.postimg.cc/wBbjB38h/IMG-E1307.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mcCsXLrD)

Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring
(https://i.postimg.cc/c13LssDn/IMG-1311.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Jt1LxWCr)

God Only Knows
(https://i.postimg.cc/50h9wGty/IMG-1317.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/471TGWVR)




Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE-Holland on July 06, 2019, 02:20:21 PM
Pictures and videosnippets from the Futureland, Tweede Maasvlakte Rotterdam July 5th concert

Arriving at the stage
(https://i.ibb.co/935GYtq/IMG-1323.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Tq3rhLH)

At the dock, waiting for the ships to arrive
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48215647792_443fbfadef_k.jpg)

The promenade from the dock to the stage
(https://i.postimg.cc/RFTRJLD2/IMG-1327.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gsDNhh)

The stage; the screen shows pictures of the Spido company from the early days
(https://i.postimg.cc/RFv1mnZd/IMG-1328.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDfq6zrq) (https://gasstation-nearme.com/)

The first ship arrives; this one is well on time
(https://i.postimg.cc/1RJB9M6q/IMG-1329.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kDRKsQTJ) (https://falloutfacts.com/legendary-deathclaw-fallout-new-vegas)

Mike checking the stage – I think there two at most that recognized him (I was one of them); everybody kept chatting and drinking…
(https://i.postimg.cc/D0ycrbV0/IMG-1330.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ygt9Bx8C)

VIDEO-snippet: The orchestra starts with an overture
https://youtu.be/HcpIdoJDRj8

The band joins, starting with Do It Again
(https://i.postimg.cc/DzrQRcnm/IMG-1335.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DWzbXLWK)

VIDEO-snippet: Surfer Girl
https://youtu.be/VNV20MniXR8

VIDEO-snippet: Kiss Me Baby
https://youtu.be/DQ9Fb6XbqK4

During the shortened car-medley
(https://i.postimg.cc/RVhRqfQb/IMG-1340.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JGwJ2sFb)

Fun, Fun, Fun with Fireworks
(https://i.postimg.cc/8c5hJQWr/IMG-1342.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8J2F9YZ1)

VIDEO-snippet: Fun, Fun, Fun with Fireworks
https://youtu.be/zUt0iFjcnVI

…and goodbye !
(https://i.postimg.cc/x1b332Zv/IMG-1344.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/pmRjPgRr)





Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: BeachBoysCovers on July 07, 2019, 01:08:42 PM
Brighton yesterday was changed  - seemingly on the night? - to have no intermission - but they still played 2 hours and 20 minutes anyway - so shorter than Royal Albert Hall, but complaining about a couple of near-80 year olds only being on stage for 160 minutes straight is a bit unfair... In fact they only did four more songs at RAH where they got a 25 minute intermission, so not much different really.

Setlist was a bit more hit-based than the RAH show - out with some of the Pet Sounds numbers (Caroline, No, Here Today, I'm Waiting For The Day, You Still Believe In Me), Why Do Fools Fall In Love, Their Hearts Were Full of Spring, 'Til I Die, Little Honda and Please Let Me Wonder

But they added in You're So Good To Me (Bruce lead), In My Room, 409, Shut Down and Wild Honey (love how heavy Cowsill makes this)


Mike seemed to be enjoying himself and was very talkative. Bruce did another great Disney Girls and also seemed in good spirits
Continue to be amazed by Ike - his Don't Worry Baby and Warmth Of The Sun were so good
Mike mentioned how they filmed the Don't Go Near The Water video in Brighton. Bruce then said it was either a terrific song or a terrible song... couldn't hear it clearer enough to determine which but either is likely!
I enjoy the new Summertime Blues version, and both that and Rockaway Beach go over well live.
Bruce played a single line of I Write The Songs before Disney Girls (with Mike threatening to make him do the whole thing one day)
I noticed Christian sang "blossom world we find" this time on GV.

Two complaints, neither band related - 1) there are always some people sitting near me in the crowds at these shows who seem to object to the whole "people standing up, dancing, clapping, having fun" during the fast songs. Despite Bruce literally doing his "all stand up" gesture at the start of those songs. I'm fine if you don't want to join in but why act all disgusted at everyone who doesn't want to just sit still and silently appreciate Help Me Rhonda.
2) Brighton Centre confiscated my water bottle on entry, but would happily sell me a bottle of water at the bar...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on July 07, 2019, 02:44:29 PM
Great! Glad it was a good night.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: JK on July 14, 2019, 02:48:12 PM
Futureland, Tweede Maasvlakte, Rotterdam, July 5th 2019

This concert was a special one.

Klaas, thanks a bunch for the description of both shows and for the pictures. I never made it to either (so shoot me!).

I see the conductor on the 5th was Corinna Niemeyer. My wife and I are both major fans of the RPhO, which has enjoyed some extraordinary conductors during its existence (our absolute favourite being Valery Gergiev). I'll check out the videos tomorrow--really looking forward to that!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocker on July 19, 2019, 08:00:16 AM
This was posted on Facebook by John Fogerty (I hope the picture gets shown):

(https://scontent-ber1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67666295_10156150556412540_6442492235815583744_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_eui2=AeGMLo8rbOewzLNwN4YeodU95gp7NEIigWHISzsSKHmNSAyhqhN6USTjktOmURS3NEYovvo6mUXgnNrs-PAh8eWc3lVKw-XP1PDpen6hH7QRZg&_nc_oc=AQleGvgaP2qxO1yiqBUzKPEvwCfESH8gFOvwwkHx8b5NtlQcVM7ouwez3GbwFEGMSigleskTq7mRojP0F03FBOTb&_nc_ht=scontent-ber1-1.xx&oh=90d41684ef5a6df327162bcb7949bd46&oe=5DAA3F84)


Look who we ran into in Dresden, Germany! 🇩🇪 Mike Love overheard us talking about how great The Beach Boys are, not knowing he was sitting one table over. He busted us. Now that’s something special. Peace and “Love” in Europe. Having a groovy time on this 50 year trip! #thebeachboys #mikelove — with The Beach Boys and Mike Love in Dresden, Germany.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 19, 2019, 08:13:20 AM
Is this man ever NOT promoting himself via his own apparel?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: marcella27 on July 19, 2019, 12:15:08 PM
That's a really cool post from John Fogerty. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on July 19, 2019, 12:20:51 PM
Is this man ever NOT promoting himself via his own apparel?

 :lol :lol Next, he'll be on stage with a sandwich board hawking his new album.  ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: rab2591 on July 19, 2019, 03:51:09 PM
That's a really cool post from John Fogerty. 

Indeed!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on July 22, 2019, 06:38:01 AM
That's awesome. I'll be seeing John Fogerty at Radio City Music Hall in August, my first time ever... can't wait.



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 22, 2019, 08:10:38 AM
I saw John Fogerty in 2015 and it was even better than expected. Superb live experience. Kinda ironic that he's sharing a photo with the Lovester as I believe he has shared the bill with Creedence Clearwater Revisited and thrown work their way on many an occasion...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: UEF on July 30, 2019, 01:35:15 AM
Some Albert Hall photos

(https://i.imgur.com/Bow5bG8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/P7xb6jc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0xktVbU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gJD5Doj.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/PBHswai.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/udjWtgz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Nyjrdo8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Z2ji5lF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/6ewNOV1.jpg)



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 30, 2019, 10:57:06 AM
I could be wrong and it could just be a minor thing, but I don't believe I've ever seen Mike and Bruce sell signed merchandise at their shows before (the poster). Interesting!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Marty Castillo on July 30, 2019, 05:28:22 PM
I could be wrong and it could just be a minor thing, but I don't believe I've ever seen Mike and Bruce sell signed merchandise at their shows before (the poster). Interesting!
Agree. Kind of surprise Mike hasn't done signed books or signed CDs or LPs of his new release(s).


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: UEF on August 01, 2019, 12:28:56 AM
I could be wrong and it could just be a minor thing, but I don't believe I've ever seen Mike and Bruce sell signed merchandise at their shows before (the poster). Interesting!

100 quid for that poster and a hat. I didn't see many takers... :D

Extra £25 for a plastic poncho!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 03, 2019, 03:00:27 PM
Anybody seeing M&B opening for Ringo & The All Starrs tonight?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: DC310 on August 03, 2019, 07:05:47 PM
A friend of mine is there and sent me a video of Brian E singing Don’t Worry Baby. Jeff is there as well playing guitar but doesn’t seem to be singing.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 05, 2019, 02:43:32 PM
Here's Mike, Bruce, and Scott Totten with Ringo & the all starrs on "with a little help..."


Mike appears to not really know the words and relies on doing his usually thumbs ups and crowd points, Bruce sings some really nice harmonies that stick out in a good way, but then freezes when they go into "Give Peace a Chance" and never does the peace fingers...Scott looks like he's having a ball, and rightfully so!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on August 05, 2019, 04:12:47 PM
Your link to the video is missing, but I did see it earlier. Bruce walks out for a handshake and is left hanging....Ringo doesn’t shake hands as he is a germaphobe.  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 05, 2019, 06:20:54 PM
That's weird...let's try again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgPpR8wTS6Q


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: UEF on August 06, 2019, 06:48:29 AM
Christ... my ears!

Looks like Steve Lukather from Toto on the left guitar (next to Mike) also

Interesting thing about Ringo - he never, ever drums live without another drummer doubling. All those guest appearances etc, you never get to hear the classic Ringo "dustbin lid" sound because there's always someone doubling up. Backing musicians covering up the sound - sounds familiar eh! ;)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 06, 2019, 07:02:58 AM
Christ... my ears!

Looks like Steve Lukather from Toto on the left guitar (next to Mike) also

Interesting thing about Ringo - he never, ever drums live without another drummer doubling. All those guest appearances etc, you never get to hear the classic Ringo "dustbin lid" sound because there's always someone doubling up. Backing musicians covering up the sound - sounds familiar eh! ;)

Lukather has been in Ringo's band for years now; it's unfortunate Ringo hasn't stuck to the original ethos of the All-Starr band by rotating more members each time.

Ringo has on occasion drummed solo, even on his All-Starr tours. There was a track on one of the tours, leading into or out of the solo spots/intermission, where finally he went solo and the other drummer took a break. I'm trying to remember. Maybe "Irene Wilde" by Ian Hunter back in 2001?

But yes, Ringo clearly likes having a second drummer. I mean, I can't fault Ringo. He's *very close* to 80 years old and still drumming for full shows and doing jumping jacks up front while he sings, etc.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on August 07, 2019, 10:45:58 AM
I saw Mike & Bruce's Beach Boys and Ringo at Ravinia on Sunday night. Here are my thoughts...

The Beach Boys band was on fire. Mike's lead vocals on the hits were very strong, and he was moving around the stage more than we've seen the last couple years. That was very cool. Ike sounded absolutely fantastic on the falsetto parts, specifically Don't Worry Baby. His voice is so strong and cuts through the mix perfectly, in a way similar to BW's. He can sing in that very high register without sounding "wimpy".

Bruce's only lead vocal during the entire night was the bridge of Surfer Girl. My Dad (who is a casual BBs fan, not an expert) said that it seemed like Bruce's role in the touring group had been diminished, with his lack of leads and audible keyboard playing. However, as I explained to him, even if Bruce's ONLY contribution was singing BBs backing harmonies, that'd be a significant contribution. Singing BBs harmony is very hard, and to be able to do it perfectly every night, makes you an incredible musician in my eyes.

Stamos was there. For the beginning of the show, I felt like he was hogging the spotlight. He was kinda upstaging Mike and Bruce, which felt a little weird at a Beach Boys concert. A couple songs in, however, something changed, and he let Mike do his frontman thing. Stamos' lead vocal on Forever was great though, and I'll never complain about having a Dennis song in the setlist.

Despite California Sun, Rockaway Beach, Summertime Blues, and Here Comes The Sun all being covers, they didn't harm the pace of the show. The audience was really into California Sun when it kicked off. I think most people thought Summertime Blues was a BBs song. And Rockaway Beach, with Cowsill's perfect fast tempo, had amazing energy. The only point of the show where I felt the energy dip was Pisces Brothers, as I've felt since 2014, however maybe a dozen people actually gave the song a standing ovation (maybe lots of George Harrison fans in the audience)

Many of the songs we've come to expect in a M&B show were cut from the setlist, since they were playing the show w Ringo. No Darlin, Why Do Fools Fall In Love, Little Honda, Disney Girls, SIP, Then I Kissed Her, Rock And Roll Music, etc... But that didn't really harm anyone's enjoyment of the show. It was still a great overview of The BBs catalog, with fan favorites like It's OK and The Warmth Of The Sun (with a terrific lead by Ambha Love)

Sometimes it can feel like the hits are played on autopilot, but songs like 409, Rhonda, and Surfin USA (which the group has played millions of times) had an incredible punch.

One complaint I have with the show, is Stamos completely took over the drums for the second half of the first set, including the car set and DWB. He's a fine drummer, but when compared to Cowsill, his tempo and energy sounded really amateur. The tempo on Surfer Girl, with Stamos on drums, was kinda all over the place. But the harmonies were so exquisite, I couldn't mind. Maybe it's just because I'm a musician, that I noticed the tempo fluctuations when Stamos took over. It wasn't the end of the world, even Dennis' tempo could shift during the song. Cowsill is really good at staying in the pocket, and he shines whenever he picks up the sticks.

Having Scott, Christian, Jeff, and Ike all play guitar gave the band a great rock sound. All of the guitarists complemented each other's playing, and didn't step on each other's toes. My ideal situation would be for Ike to continue to sing the falsettos, and when Jeff's voice is healed, have him sing his more mid-register leads like Darlin. This was truly a great lineup of musicians, who have all earned their stripes to be on stage with The Beach Boys band.

Overall, it was one of my favorite BBs shows I have been to. Everyone had a moment to shine. Tim's keyboard playing was astonishing as usual, I can't believe he can cover so many parts. Mike and Bruce had great energy as the resident official BBs members. If anyone is feeling hesitant to see Mike's Beach Boys, I really recommend seeing them. They have totally stepped up their game since Totten took over as musical director, and if you go to their shows you'll be treated with great harmonies, an interesting setlist, and wonderful musicians who seem to love what they do. You can't go wrong. It's funny, I'll sometimes skip a song like Little Deuce Coupe if it comes on shuffle, but when I hear it in person, with the pounding drums, chugging guitars, and soaring harmonies, I remember how genius early hits like that were. This band pays great respect to the original arrangements and intentions of the songs. It seems like Mike takes a lot of care in creating the setlists, and putting songs together in a way that works and keeps the energy up.

Despite my minor frustration with things like Stamos' drumming, or a relatively short setlist, I'd still give this show a 10/10 for being a great BBs experience. I look forward to seeing Mike's band again, as well as Brian's. They totally compliment each other in my opinion, even though I'd obviously prefer to see them together.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: UEF on August 07, 2019, 11:09:37 AM
Well said, Nate. It's a great band to watch (if a little personnel-heavy at times). Same for Brian's.

I wonder if we'll ever see them doing a basic lineup - Brian, Al, Mike, Bruce (complete with cheap/old sounding keyboard) plus maybe a drummer and bass. Or would the two main guys need 35 people each behind them to get on stage?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on August 07, 2019, 11:09:45 AM
Additional note:

Mike, Bruce, and Scott joined Ringo onstage for With A Little Help From My Friends, which was awesome. Indeed, a historical site to see. Last time The BBs and Ringo played together must have been Fourth Of July in the 80's I think...

Anyway, I was really hoping Bruce would take a verse of the song, since I love The BBs version with his lead, but no such luck... (I wonder if singing the song onstage brought Bruce back to those '67 sessions...)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 08, 2019, 06:51:58 AM
Funny thing about Ringo's 1984 appearances with the Beach Boys is that, according to Ringo's "Postcards from the Boys" book, he has *zero* recollection of doing those gigs. As in, the only reason he even believes he was there is that there are photos and video footage of it. He was so wasted back in the early-mid 80s that he has no recollection of getting on stage in front of a half million people at *two different gigs* on the same day in 1984.

No surprise Bruce didn't sing with Ringo the other night. Bruce barely sings any leads in his own band, and Ringo's pattern on "With A Little Help..." at gigs is that he often invites other musical friends in attendance (or on the bill) to do the singalong.

Here's a potentially better look (more shots of the big video screen) of Mike and company singing with Ringo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tERC07le9JU

Mike has appeared publicly with Ringo in more recent years. He appeared at that David Lynch thing with a bunch of people including Paul and Ringo back in 2009:

(http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Paul+McCartney+Mike+Love+David+Lynch+Foundation+bfh5S8f0pEVl.jpg)

One of my favorite Mike pics is this one from the that Lynch press conference where, with one simple photo, you can totally tell that Mike, *in front of Paul McCartney* is *once again* telling his "Back in the USSR" story:

(https://kenchawkin.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/mike-love.jpg?w=202)

Also, at some point Ringo did appear on stage somewhere with Brian; there's a pic of some random appearance (a club or a karaoke bar for all I know) of the two singing together on stage in Brian's 1999 tour program. This is the best pic I could find:

(https://d9nvuahg4xykp.cloudfront.net/-7026997675755691986/-6850019276727746458.jpg)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: UEF on August 08, 2019, 08:05:22 AM
Mike has appeared publicly with Ringo in more recent years. He appeared at that David Lynch thing with a bunch of people including Paul and Ringo back in 2009:

(http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Paul+McCartney+Mike+Love+David+Lynch+Foundation+bfh5S8f0pEVl.jpg)


"Me and George were Pisces brothers..."


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Matt H on August 08, 2019, 08:51:16 AM
Funny thing about Ringo's 1984 appearances with the Beach Boys is that, according to Ringo's "Postcards from the Boys" book, he has *zero* recollection of doing those gigs. As in, the only reason he even believes he was there is that there are photos and video footage of it. He was so wasted back in the early-mid 80s that he has no recollection of getting on stage in front of a half million people at *two different gigs* on the same day in 1984.

No surprise Bruce didn't sing with Ringo the other night. Bruce barely sings any leads in his own band, and Ringo's pattern on "With A Little Help..." at gigs is that he often invites other musical friends in attendance (or on the bill) to do the singalong.

Here's a potentially better look (more shots of the big video screen) of Mike and company singing with Ringo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tERC07le9JU

Mike has appeared publicly with Ringo in more recent years. He appeared at that David Lynch thing with a bunch of people including Paul and Ringo back in 2009:

(http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Paul+McCartney+Mike+Love+David+Lynch+Foundation+bfh5S8f0pEVl.jpg)

One of my favorite Mike pics is this one from the that Lynch press conference where, with one simple photo, you can totally tell that Mike, *in front of Paul McCartney* is *once again* telling his "Back in the USSR" story:

(https://kenchawkin.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/mike-love.jpg?w=202)

Also, at some point Ringo did appear on stage somewhere with Brian; there's a pic of some random appearance (a club or a karaoke bar for all I know) of the two singing together on stage in Brian's 1999 tour program. This is the best pic I could find:

(https://d9nvuahg4xykp.cloudfront.net/-7026997675755691986/-6850019276727746458.jpg)

I wonder if the picture of Brian and Ringo is from the infamous Van Dkye Parks birthday party?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 08, 2019, 10:18:32 PM
I saw Mike & Bruce's Beach Boys and Ringo at Ravinia on Sunday night. Here are my thoughts...

The Beach Boys band was on fire. Mike's lead vocals on the hits were very strong, and he was moving around the stage more than we've seen the last couple years. That was very cool. Ike sounded absolutely fantastic on the falsetto parts, specifically Don't Worry Baby. His voice is so strong and cuts through the mix perfectly, in a way similar to BW's. He can sing in that very high register without sounding "wimpy".

Bruce's only lead vocal during the entire night was the bridge of Surfer Girl. My Dad (who is a casual BBs fan, not an expert) said that it seemed like Bruce's role in the touring group had been diminished, with his lack of leads and audible keyboard playing. However, as I explained to him, even if Bruce's ONLY contribution was singing BBs backing harmonies, that'd be a significant contribution. Singing BBs harmony is very hard, and to be able to do it perfectly every night, makes you an incredible musician in my eyes.

Stamos was there. For the beginning of the show, I felt like he was hogging the spotlight. He was kinda upstaging Mike and Bruce, which felt a little weird at a Beach Boys concert. A couple songs in, however, something changed, and he let Mike do his frontman thing. Stamos' lead vocal on Forever was great though, and I'll never complain about having a Dennis song in the setlist.

Despite California Sun, Rockaway Beach, Summertime Blues, and Here Comes The Sun all being covers, they didn't harm the pace of the show. The audience was really into California Sun when it kicked off. I think most people thought Summertime Blues was a BBs song. And Rockaway Beach, with Cowsill's perfect fast tempo, had amazing energy. The only point of the show where I felt the energy dip was Pisces Brothers, as I've felt since 2014, however maybe a dozen people actually gave the song a standing ovation (maybe lots of George Harrison fans in the audience)

Many of the songs we've come to expect in a M&B show were cut from the setlist, since they were playing the show w Ringo. No Darlin, Why Do Fools Fall In Love, Little Honda, Disney Girls, SIP, Then I Kissed Her, Rock And Roll Music, etc... But that didn't really harm anyone's enjoyment of the show. It was still a great overview of The BBs catalog, with fan favorites like It's OK and The Warmth Of The Sun (with a terrific lead by Ambha Love)

Sometimes it can feel like the hits are played on autopilot, but songs like 409, Rhonda, and Surfin USA (which the group has played millions of times) had an incredible punch.

One complaint I have with the show, is Stamos completely took over the drums for the second half of the first set, including the car set and DWB. He's a fine drummer, but when compared to Cowsill, his tempo and energy sounded really amateur. The tempo on Surfer Girl, with Stamos on drums, was kinda all over the place. But the harmonies were so exquisite, I couldn't mind. Maybe it's just because I'm a musician, that I noticed the tempo fluctuations when Stamos took over. It wasn't the end of the world, even Dennis' tempo could shift during the song. Cowsill is really good at staying in the pocket, and he shines whenever he picks up the sticks.

Having Scott, Christian, Jeff, and Ike all play guitar gave the band a great rock sound. All of the guitarists complemented each other's playing, and didn't step on each other's toes. My ideal situation would be for Ike to continue to sing the falsettos, and when Jeff's voice is healed, have him sing his more mid-register leads like Darlin. This was truly a great lineup of musicians, who have all earned their stripes to be on stage with The Beach Boys band.

Overall, it was one of my favorite BBs shows I have been to. Everyone had a moment to shine. Tim's keyboard playing was astonishing as usual, I can't believe he can cover so many parts. Mike and Bruce had great energy as the resident official BBs members. If anyone is feeling hesitant to see Mike's Beach Boys, I really recommend seeing them. They have totally stepped up their game since Totten took over as musical director, and if you go to their shows you'll be treated with great harmonies, an interesting setlist, and wonderful musicians who seem to love what they do. You can't go wrong. It's funny, I'll sometimes skip a song like Little Deuce Coupe if it comes on shuffle, but when I hear it in person, with the pounding drums, chugging guitars, and soaring harmonies, I remember how genius early hits like that were. This band pays great respect to the original arrangements and intentions of the songs. It seems like Mike takes a lot of care in creating the setlists, and putting songs together in a way that works and keeps the energy up.

Despite my minor frustration with things like Stamos' drumming, or a relatively short setlist, I'd still give this show a 10/10 for being a great BBs experience. I look forward to seeing Mike's band again, as well as Brian's. They totally compliment each other in my opinion, even though I'd obviously prefer to see them together.
Nothing to say about Ringo's part of the show? My 2 cents: I thought the All-Starr band was a nice idea when his bandmates were people like Levon Helm, Rick Danko, Felix Cavaliere, Billy Preston, Randy Bachman, Dave Edmunds, Timothy B. Schmit, Burton Cummings, John Entwhistle. Since then, though, I have just wished he would do a show of all Ringo songs. To my knowledge, he only did this a couple times, during the Mark Hudson years. One of those shows was on VH1 Storytellers. Killer set list, and "the Roundheads" rocked much better than any of the All-Starrs.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocker on August 12, 2019, 09:56:30 AM
Someone uploaded what appears to be the whole show from Munich earlier this year:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZRsg3dxUuI


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on August 16, 2019, 11:36:50 AM
Looks like Rob Bonfiglio is filling in for Ike... who's filling in for Jeff...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQHBElCadxs

Can't complain though, he sounds pretty great, although I think Ike's falsetto is one of the best additions to Mike's band recently.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: “Big Daddy” on August 16, 2019, 06:15:13 PM
Looks like Rob Bonfiglio is filling in for Ike...

That’s cool, wouldn’t have expected Rob to be fluid between the different camps.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 16, 2019, 10:14:08 PM
Looks like Rob Bonfiglio is filling in for Ike... who's filling in for Jeff...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQHBElCadxs

Can't complain though, he sounds pretty great, although I think Ike's falsetto is one of the best additions to Mike's band recently.
Honestly, I have no idea who Rob and Ike are. Haven't seen the band since Carl died. Will be seeing them Labor Day weekend at the Puyallup Fair, so I guess I will find out!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on August 16, 2019, 10:38:36 PM
Lonely Summer,

I think you will enjoy the show if you go with an open mind! It obviously won't be the same as seeing the group with Carl, but Mike has an excellent lineup of musicians that pay attention to every detail.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Jay on August 17, 2019, 02:23:56 AM
I saw Mike & Bruce's Beach Boys and Ringo at Ravinia on Sunday night. Here are my thoughts...

The Beach Boys band was on fire. Mike's lead vocals on the hits were very strong, and he was moving around the stage more than we've seen the last couple years. That was very cool. Ike sounded absolutely fantastic on the falsetto parts, specifically Don't Worry Baby. His voice is so strong and cuts through the mix perfectly, in a way similar to BW's. He can sing in that very high register without sounding "wimpy".

Bruce's only lead vocal during the entire night was the bridge of Surfer Girl. My Dad (who is a casual BBs fan, not an expert) said that it seemed like Bruce's role in the touring group had been diminished, with his lack of leads and audible keyboard playing. However, as I explained to him, even if Bruce's ONLY contribution was singing BBs backing harmonies, that'd be a significant contribution. Singing BBs harmony is very hard, and to be able to do it perfectly every night, makes you an incredible musician in my eyes.

Stamos was there. For the beginning of the show, I felt like he was hogging the spotlight. He was kinda upstaging Mike and Bruce, which felt a little weird at a Beach Boys concert. A couple songs in, however, something changed, and he let Mike do his frontman thing. Stamos' lead vocal on Forever was great though, and I'll never complain about having a Dennis song in the setlist.

Despite California Sun, Rockaway Beach, Summertime Blues, and Here Comes The Sun all being covers, they didn't harm the pace of the show. The audience was really into California Sun when it kicked off. I think most people thought Summertime Blues was a BBs song. And Rockaway Beach, with Cowsill's perfect fast tempo, had amazing energy. The only point of the show where I felt the energy dip was Pisces Brothers, as I've felt since 2014, however maybe a dozen people actually gave the song a standing ovation (maybe lots of George Harrison fans in the audience)

Many of the songs we've come to expect in a M&B show were cut from the setlist, since they were playing the show w Ringo. No Darlin, Why Do Fools Fall In Love, Little Honda, Disney Girls, SIP, Then I Kissed Her, Rock And Roll Music, etc... But that didn't really harm anyone's enjoyment of the show. It was still a great overview of The BBs catalog, with fan favorites like It's OK and The Warmth Of The Sun (with a terrific lead by Ambha Love)

Sometimes it can feel like the hits are played on autopilot, but songs like 409, Rhonda, and Surfin USA (which the group has played millions of times) had an incredible punch.

One complaint I have with the show, is Stamos completely took over the drums for the second half of the first set, including the car set and DWB. He's a fine drummer, but when compared to Cowsill, his tempo and energy sounded really amateur. The tempo on Surfer Girl, with Stamos on drums, was kinda all over the place. But the harmonies were so exquisite, I couldn't mind. Maybe it's just because I'm a musician, that I noticed the tempo fluctuations when Stamos took over. It wasn't the end of the world, even Dennis' tempo could shift during the song. Cowsill is really good at staying in the pocket, and he shines whenever he picks up the sticks.

Having Scott, Christian, Jeff, and Ike all play guitar gave the band a great rock sound. All of the guitarists complemented each other's playing, and didn't step on each other's toes. My ideal situation would be for Ike to continue to sing the falsettos, and when Jeff's voice is healed, have him sing his more mid-register leads like Darlin. This was truly a great lineup of musicians, who have all earned their stripes to be on stage with The Beach Boys band.

Overall, it was one of my favorite BBs shows I have been to. Everyone had a moment to shine. Tim's keyboard playing was astonishing as usual, I can't believe he can cover so many parts. Mike and Bruce had great energy as the resident official BBs members. If anyone is feeling hesitant to see Mike's Beach Boys, I really recommend seeing them. They have totally stepped up their game since Totten took over as musical director, and if you go to their shows you'll be treated with great harmonies, an interesting setlist, and wonderful musicians who seem to love what they do. You can't go wrong. It's funny, I'll sometimes skip a song like Little Deuce Coupe if it comes on shuffle, but when I hear it in person, with the pounding drums, chugging guitars, and soaring harmonies, I remember how genius early hits like that were. This band pays great respect to the original arrangements and intentions of the songs. It seems like Mike takes a lot of care in creating the setlists, and putting songs together in a way that works and keeps the energy up.

Despite my minor frustration with things like Stamos' drumming, or a relatively short setlist, I'd still give this show a 10/10 for being a great BBs experience. I look forward to seeing Mike's band again, as well as Brian's. They totally compliment each other in my opinion, even though I'd obviously prefer to see them together.
Nothing to say about Ringo's part of the show? My 2 cents: I thought the All-Starr band was a nice idea when his bandmates were people like Levon Helm, Rick Danko, Felix Cavaliere, Billy Preston, Randy Bachman, Dave Edmunds, Timothy B. Schmit, Burton Cummings, John Entwhistle. Since then, though, I have just wished he would do a show of all Ringo songs. To my knowledge, he only did this a couple times, during the Mark Hudson years. One of those shows was on VH1 Storytellers. Killer set list, and "the Roundheads" rocked much better than any of the All-Starrs.
I totally agree. I wish he  would reunite with Mark Hudson. In my opinion he brought out the best of Ringo since his early collaborations with his ex Beatles bandmates. Ringo kind of "lost his way" in the late 70's and most of the 80's, but he did some great stuff with Mark and the Roundheads.

Autocorrect keeps wanting me to change Ringo to Dingo. That has nothing to do with what we're talking about, I just thought it was funny as hell.  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: UEF on August 17, 2019, 04:19:54 AM
Lonely Summer,

I think you will enjoy the show if you go with an open mind! It obviously won't be the same as seeing the group with Carl, but Mike has an excellent lineup of musicians that pay attention to every detail.

That’s one of the peculiarities of the old band that’s been lost- the shaky, ‘garage’ feel to the live performance where they had limited instruments, Dennis drumming 1.5x speed, etc.

The new band plays the songs very ‘straight’ (in the same way the Brian band does) because both are full of session guys


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Jay on August 17, 2019, 06:26:30 AM
Hmm.  ;D


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: startBBtoday on August 17, 2019, 02:42:41 PM
Saw M+B last night. I was a little distracted because I brought my daughter to her first concert, but I thought they sounded great. Rob was a nice fill-in for Jeff/Ike. As usual, I could have done without Pisces Brother, but I didn't mind the inclusions of Rockaway Beach, California Sun and Summertime Blues.

I think bringing in a sax player has really filled in the sound over the last few years.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 17, 2019, 08:39:23 PM
I saw Mike & Bruce's Beach Boys and Ringo at Ravinia on Sunday night. Here are my thoughts...

The Beach Boys band was on fire. Mike's lead vocals on the hits were very strong, and he was moving around the stage more than we've seen the last couple years. That was very cool. Ike sounded absolutely fantastic on the falsetto parts, specifically Don't Worry Baby. His voice is so strong and cuts through the mix perfectly, in a way similar to BW's. He can sing in that very high register without sounding "wimpy".

Bruce's only lead vocal during the entire night was the bridge of Surfer Girl. My Dad (who is a casual BBs fan, not an expert) said that it seemed like Bruce's role in the touring group had been diminished, with his lack of leads and audible keyboard playing. However, as I explained to him, even if Bruce's ONLY contribution was singing BBs backing harmonies, that'd be a significant contribution. Singing BBs harmony is very hard, and to be able to do it perfectly every night, makes you an incredible musician in my eyes.

Stamos was there. For the beginning of the show, I felt like he was hogging the spotlight. He was kinda upstaging Mike and Bruce, which felt a little weird at a Beach Boys concert. A couple songs in, however, something changed, and he let Mike do his frontman thing. Stamos' lead vocal on Forever was great though, and I'll never complain about having a Dennis song in the setlist.

Despite California Sun, Rockaway Beach, Summertime Blues, and Here Comes The Sun all being covers, they didn't harm the pace of the show. The audience was really into California Sun when it kicked off. I think most people thought Summertime Blues was a BBs song. And Rockaway Beach, with Cowsill's perfect fast tempo, had amazing energy. The only point of the show where I felt the energy dip was Pisces Brothers, as I've felt since 2014, however maybe a dozen people actually gave the song a standing ovation (maybe lots of George Harrison fans in the audience)

Many of the songs we've come to expect in a M&B show were cut from the setlist, since they were playing the show w Ringo. No Darlin, Why Do Fools Fall In Love, Little Honda, Disney Girls, SIP, Then I Kissed Her, Rock And Roll Music, etc... But that didn't really harm anyone's enjoyment of the show. It was still a great overview of The BBs catalog, with fan favorites like It's OK and The Warmth Of The Sun (with a terrific lead by Ambha Love)

Sometimes it can feel like the hits are played on autopilot, but songs like 409, Rhonda, and Surfin USA (which the group has played millions of times) had an incredible punch.

One complaint I have with the show, is Stamos completely took over the drums for the second half of the first set, including the car set and DWB. He's a fine drummer, but when compared to Cowsill, his tempo and energy sounded really amateur. The tempo on Surfer Girl, with Stamos on drums, was kinda all over the place. But the harmonies were so exquisite, I couldn't mind. Maybe it's just because I'm a musician, that I noticed the tempo fluctuations when Stamos took over. It wasn't the end of the world, even Dennis' tempo could shift during the song. Cowsill is really good at staying in the pocket, and he shines whenever he picks up the sticks.

Having Scott, Christian, Jeff, and Ike all play guitar gave the band a great rock sound. All of the guitarists complemented each other's playing, and didn't step on each other's toes. My ideal situation would be for Ike to continue to sing the falsettos, and when Jeff's voice is healed, have him sing his more mid-register leads like Darlin. This was truly a great lineup of musicians, who have all earned their stripes to be on stage with The Beach Boys band.

Overall, it was one of my favorite BBs shows I have been to. Everyone had a moment to shine. Tim's keyboard playing was astonishing as usual, I can't believe he can cover so many parts. Mike and Bruce had great energy as the resident official BBs members. If anyone is feeling hesitant to see Mike's Beach Boys, I really recommend seeing them. They have totally stepped up their game since Totten took over as musical director, and if you go to their shows you'll be treated with great harmonies, an interesting setlist, and wonderful musicians who seem to love what they do. You can't go wrong. It's funny, I'll sometimes skip a song like Little Deuce Coupe if it comes on shuffle, but when I hear it in person, with the pounding drums, chugging guitars, and soaring harmonies, I remember how genius early hits like that were. This band pays great respect to the original arrangements and intentions of the songs. It seems like Mike takes a lot of care in creating the setlists, and putting songs together in a way that works and keeps the energy up.

Despite my minor frustration with things like Stamos' drumming, or a relatively short setlist, I'd still give this show a 10/10 for being a great BBs experience. I look forward to seeing Mike's band again, as well as Brian's. They totally compliment each other in my opinion, even though I'd obviously prefer to see them together.
Nothing to say about Ringo's part of the show? My 2 cents: I thought the All-Starr band was a nice idea when his bandmates were people like Levon Helm, Rick Danko, Felix Cavaliere, Billy Preston, Randy Bachman, Dave Edmunds, Timothy B. Schmit, Burton Cummings, John Entwhistle. Since then, though, I have just wished he would do a show of all Ringo songs. To my knowledge, he only did this a couple times, during the Mark Hudson years. One of those shows was on VH1 Storytellers. Killer set list, and "the Roundheads" rocked much better than any of the All-Starrs.
I totally agree. I wish he  would reunite with Mark Hudson. In my opinion he brought out the best of Ringo since his early collaborations with his ex Beatles bandmates. Ringo kind of "lost his way" in the late 70's and most of the 80's, but he did some great stuff with Mark and the Roundheads.

Autocorrect keeps wanting me to change Ringo to Dingo. That has nothing to do with what we're talking about, I just thought it was funny as hell.  :lol
I guess the problem with doing a solo show for Ringo is, do people want to see him down front, as lead singer on every song, or do they want him to be the drummer? I think a compromise could be reached: for example, I remember when he did the Storytellers show, he went back to the drums for the last part of Back Off Boogaloo. And he used to sing at least a couple of songs during the All Starr shows from behind the drums - stuff like Boys or Act Naturally.
Ringo and Mark made a good team, but I guess they had a falling out. Now Mark is working with Joey Molland. We'll see if anything comes of that.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on August 17, 2019, 09:02:37 PM
Saw them tonight in Simsbury CT. Mike sounded really great . It was a very short show because if fireworks and then shortened even more due to storms . Only annoying thing is in a shortened show anyway where even a song like Darlin and When I Grow Up doesn’t make the cut they still played Pisces Brothers and Here Comes The Sun which brought everything to a screeching halt .


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: myonlysunshine on August 19, 2019, 06:31:17 PM
I saw the Mike and Bruce Beach Boys last night at the Ridgefield Playhouse Theater. This was the first time I've seen them since 2010, not counting the two C50 Mohegan Sun shows where I saw them with the reunited band. Growing up in the late 90s and early 2000s my parents took me to go see the Mike and Bruce Beach Boys a ton, but as I got older I gravitated more towards seeing Brian’s band and have pretty much stayed that way into adulthood. In a personal first for any concert experience, I decided to sign up for the VIP experience/package via Mike’s website. My main goal for the VIP experience was to have Mike and Bruce sign my Light-Up SMiLE Sessions box set since their autographs were the only ones I needed to complete it.

The VIP experience was good, but kind of odd due to the fact that the Ridgefield Playhouse Theater is a non-profit venue that mainly operates off of corporate sponsorships. I knew going in that the sponsors might alter the experience in some way. What I didn’t know was that the sponsors would be given their own private VIP experience during the ‘normal’/‘usual’ VIP time. The VIP experience was and is advertised on Mike’s website as lasting roughly an hour. Realistically this should actually manifest into something closer to a half hour of VIP time due to needing to receive VIP passes at the box office counter, Mike and Bruce needing to leave a little early in order to get ready for the show, etc. But last night the entire experience basically lasted about 10 minutes in total – the sponsors were let in to the VIP area separately from the ‘regular’ VIP group, and were then given a photo op with Mike and Bruce. For some reason, this photo op lasted about 25 minutes. I have no idea if each of the sponsors were given the chance to take separate/individual photos with Mike and Bruce, or if there was some other reason it took so long, but during that 25 minutes I and the four other people who had VIP passes had to wait outside in the concert hall until it was over.

I am not complaining – like I said, I knew going in that the sponsors would likely alter the experience in some way, shape, or form. And in some ways having a shorter meet and greet session is advantageous – it takes some of the social pressure away from the experience, which is nice. I am just pointing this out in case anyone is thinking about buying a VIP package for a venue like this, and who may be primarily interested in it for the social experience.

But the actual experience of meeting Mike and Bruce was great. Bruce signed the box set first. He asked me where I wanted him to sign it, and when I told him to sign underneath Brian’s signature, he called Brian his idol, to which I replied “mine too”. He then asked me if I own the Good Vibrations box set, and when I told him I did, he said to listen to disc 2 of that box set to hear where Brian was aiming to go with the SMiLE music. Mike then came over and added his autograph to it. He didn’t say much to me directly, but he was kind enough to also autograph my VIP Laminate, which was a nice gesture since the staff there were very explicit that Mike and Bruce would only sign one item as part of the VIP meet and greet session. So he didn’t have to do that, but he did so anyway. I really appreciated that.

After they finished autographing everyone’s items, Mike and Bruce then took photos with the VIPers. There was a young couple who got their photograph first, and then when my turn came Bruce noticed my sweatshirt and complimented me on it. He said “Where on earth did you get that? That’s fantastic!” Mike took notice of it and seemed to like it too. On the way out of the VIP meet and greet area as I was walking back to the theater, I ran into Scott Totten who also noticed the hoodie and complimented me on it, saying “now that’s dedication!”.

The show itself was great. Based this on some recent things I’ve read and on some of my previous experiences seeing Mike and Bruce back in the day, I was kind of skeptical that the show would be great, but I came away extremely impressed, so much so that I wouldn’t hesitate to see them again the next time they’re playing close by. Everyone was in good voice, but the person who impressed me the most was Bruce. His vocals were pretty weak when I last heard him sing live in 2012 and 2010, but last night his vocals were actually a highlight, maybe even the highlight of the night.

Rob was still filling in for Brian Eichenberger (who Mike mentioned is currently on paternity leave) and his vocals were much stronger this time around than when I saw him on Brian’s Christmas tour. In one of my posts in Brian’s 2018 tour thread, I complimented the sound of Rob’s voice, which to me sounds more like a young Brian Wilson than Matt Jardine’s voice does, but I criticized Rob’s falsetto for lacking power. Last night there was a lot more power behind his voice, and I thought he was fantastic. The setlist was good; they performed California Dreamin’, Good to My Baby, and You’re So Good To Me, which are three songs I wasn’t expecting them to do. On the other hand, they didn’t perform Darlin’ or Heroes and Villains. I know they don’t consistently perform Heroes and Villains in concert, but the lack of Darlin’ in the setlist was surprising. And they did perform some songs off of 12 Sides of Summer of course. The only song I thought sounded very out of place was Pisces Brothers – I know this has been discussed here before, but it really halted the momentum of the concert when it was performed. I can tell it is a very personal song for Mike, but that is the only song performed last night that I would argue should be left out of the setlist moving forward.

Here are some pictures from the concert, the VIP meet and greet, and my now fully completed/autographed Light-Up SMiLE Sessions box set:

(https://i.imgur.com/zjN0wO8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rJo1FxO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hrkZKGK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FmK8ZMe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WW7HWjC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lnCMGdl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/peyrc36.jpg?2)
(https://i.imgur.com/pFUDtsD.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/z7Ryuao.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on August 19, 2019, 08:54:18 PM
Myonlysunshine -- where DID you get that awesome Wild Honey hoodie?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: myonlysunshine on August 20, 2019, 03:12:12 AM
Myonlysunshine -- where DID you get that awesome Wild Honey hoodie?


A company called “3D royal tees” made and sold them for a limited time last year. Unfortunately they are not available anymore, but I’ve seen some of these hoodies pop up for sale on eBay since then. Along with Wild Honey they made hoodies in this same style using the Friends, Surf’s Up, Smiley Smile, Endless Summer, Love You, and Keepin’ the Summer Alive album artwork.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: DC310 on August 20, 2019, 08:01:29 AM
Cool pics. Looks like Rob B is in for Brian E.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: UEF on August 20, 2019, 08:10:02 AM
Myonlysunshine -- where DID you get that awesome Wild Honey hoodie?


A company called “3D royal tees” made and sold them for a limited time last year. Unfortunately they are not available anymore, but I’ve seen some of these hoodies pop up for sale on eBay since then. Along with Wild Honey they made hoodies in this same style using the Friends, Surf’s Up, Smiley Smile, Endless Summer, Love You, and Keepin’ the Summer Alive album artwork.

Maybe Mike Was wondering if the license fee was being paid :D


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: myonlysunshine on August 20, 2019, 08:14:07 AM
Myonlysunshine -- where DID you get that awesome Wild Honey hoodie?


A company called “3D royal tees” made and sold them for a limited time last year. Unfortunately they are not available anymore, but I’ve seen some of these hoodies pop up for sale on eBay since then. Along with Wild Honey they made hoodies in this same style using the Friends, Surf’s Up, Smiley Smile, Endless Summer, Love You, and Keepin’ the Summer Alive album artwork.

Maybe Mike Was wondering if the license fee was being paid :D

Probably. I always assumed that was the reason they weren’t available for very long.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 20, 2019, 08:46:44 AM
Based on quick googling, it kind of looks like whatever those album-themed hoodies were, they may well have not been licensed. Might be one of those outfits that churns out clothing and posters and other wears and operates mostly out of Facebook and pays for sponsored posts and all of that. I see Beatles stuff all the time that obviously isn't licensed.

What a weird era. Stuff gets pulled off YouTube and eBay all the time, yet bootleg clothing with conspicuous advertising on social media goes unchecked? Those hoodies look cool, but I'd rather BRI send their online team after *that* stuff instead of having old blurry VHS rips of the Beach Boys on the Merv Griffin Show pulled.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on August 21, 2019, 06:52:46 AM
I saw the Mike and Bruce Beach Boys last night at the Ridgefield Playhouse Theater. This was the first time I've seen them since 2010, not counting the two C50 Mohegan Sun shows where I saw them with the reunited band. Growing up in the late 90s and early 2000s my parents took me to go see the Mike and Bruce Beach Boys a ton, but as I got older I gravitated more towards seeing Brian’s band and have pretty much stayed that way into adulthood. In a personal first for any concert experience, I decided to sign up for the VIP experience/package via Mike’s website. My main goal for the VIP experience was to have Mike and Bruce sign my Light-Up SMiLE Sessions box set since their autographs were the only ones I needed to complete it.

The VIP experience was good, but kind of odd due to the fact that the Ridgefield Playhouse Theater is a non-profit venue that mainly operates off of corporate sponsorships. I knew going in that the sponsors might alter the experience in some way. What I didn’t know was that the sponsors would be given their own private VIP experience during the ‘normal’/‘usual’ VIP time. The VIP experience was and is advertised on Mike’s website as lasting roughly an hour. Realistically this should actually manifest into something closer to a half hour of VIP time due to needing to receive VIP passes at the box office counter, Mike and Bruce needing to leave a little early in order to get ready for the show, etc. But last night the entire experience basically lasted about 10 minutes in total – the sponsors were let in to the VIP area separately from the ‘regular’ VIP group, and were then given a photo op with Mike and Bruce. For some reason, this photo op lasted about 25 minutes. I have no idea if each of the sponsors were given the chance to take separate/individual photos with Mike and Bruce, or if there was some other reason it took so long, but during that 25 minutes I and the four other people who had VIP passes had to wait outside in the concert hall until it was over.

I am not complaining – like I said, I knew going in that the sponsors would likely alter the experience in some way, shape, or form. And in some ways having a shorter meet and greet session is advantageous – it takes some of the social pressure away from the experience, which is nice. I am just pointing this out in case anyone is thinking about buying a VIP package for a venue like this, and who may be primarily interested in it for the social experience.

But the actual experience of meeting Mike and Bruce was great. Bruce signed the box set first. He asked me where I wanted him to sign it, and when I told him to sign underneath Brian’s signature, he called Brian his idol, to which I replied “mine too”. He then asked me if I own the Good Vibrations box set, and when I told him I did, he said to listen to disc 2 of that box set to hear where Brian was aiming to go with the SMiLE music. Mike then came over and added his autograph to it. He didn’t say much to me directly, but he was kind enough to also autograph my VIP Laminate, which was a nice gesture since the staff there were very explicit that Mike and Bruce would only sign one item as part of the VIP meet and greet session. So he didn’t have to do that, but he did so anyway. I really appreciated that.

After they finished autographing everyone’s items, Mike and Bruce then took photos with the VIPers. There was a young couple who got their photograph first, and then when my turn came Bruce noticed my sweatshirt and complimented me on it. He said “Where on earth did you get that? That’s fantastic!” Mike took notice of it and seemed to like it too. On the way out of the VIP meet and greet area as I was walking back to the theater, I ran into Scott Totten who also noticed the hoodie and complimented me on it, saying “now that’s dedication!”.

The show itself was great. Based this on some recent things I’ve read and on some of my previous experiences seeing Mike and Bruce back in the day, I was kind of skeptical that the show would be great, but I came away extremely impressed, so much so that I wouldn’t hesitate to see them again the next time they’re playing close by. Everyone was in good voice, but the person who impressed me the most was Bruce. His vocals were pretty weak when I last heard him sing live in 2012 and 2010, but last night his vocals were actually a highlight, maybe even the highlight of the night.

Rob was still filling in for Brian Eichenberger (who Mike mentioned is currently on paternity leave) and his vocals were much stronger this time around than when I saw him on Brian’s Christmas tour. In one of my posts in Brian’s 2018 tour thread, I complimented the sound of Rob’s voice, which to me sounds more like a young Brian Wilson than Matt Jardine’s voice does, but I criticized Rob’s falsetto for lacking power. Last night there was a lot more power behind his voice, and I thought he was fantastic. The setlist was good; they performed California Dreamin’, Good to My Baby, and You’re So Good To Me, which are three songs I wasn’t expecting them to do. On the other hand, they didn’t perform Darlin’ or Heroes and Villains. I know they don’t consistently perform Heroes and Villains in concert, but the lack of Darlin’ in the setlist was surprising. And they did perform some songs off of 12 Sides of Summer of course. The only song I thought sounded very out of place was Pisces Brothers – I know this has been discussed here before, but it really halted the momentum of the concert when it was performed. I can tell it is a very personal song for Mike, but that is the only song performed last night that I would argue should be left out of the setlist moving forward.

Here are some pictures from the concert, the VIP meet and greet, and my now fully completed/autographed Light-Up SMiLE Sessions box set:

(https://i.imgur.com/zjN0wO8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rJo1FxO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hrkZKGK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FmK8ZMe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WW7HWjC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lnCMGdl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/peyrc36.jpg?2)
(https://i.imgur.com/pFUDtsD.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/z7Ryuao.jpg?1)

Quick question, what time did the meet and greet start before the show? I'm supposed to have one this weekend but i'm not sure when I need to leave as i'm driving 2 hours or so?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: myonlysunshine on August 21, 2019, 07:05:45 AM
Quick question, what time did the meet and greet start before the show? I'm supposed to have one this weekend but i'm not sure when I need to leave as i'm driving 2 hours or so?

It was advertised as starting 1 hour before showtime. For the Ridgefield Playhouse Theater this meant 6 PM (the show started at 7 PM), which was also the time that the doors to the venue were opened. According to the ushers/staff there though, the actual meet and greet was supposed to start at 6:15 PM, although it ultimately got delayed even further in my case.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on August 21, 2019, 08:37:52 AM
Quick question, what time did the meet and greet start before the show? I'm supposed to have one this weekend but i'm not sure when I need to leave as i'm driving 2 hours or so?

It was advertised as starting 1 hour before showtime. For the Ridgefield Playhouse Theater this meant 6 PM (the show started at 7 PM), which was also the time that the doors to the venue were opened. According to the ushers/staff there though, the actual meet and greet was supposed to start at 6:15 PM, although it ultimately got delayed even further in my case.
Great, Thanks so much!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: twentytwenty on August 23, 2019, 06:24:10 AM
https://youtu.be/esROIwAj8Jk
Rob’s killing it!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on August 23, 2019, 10:23:04 PM
Highlight of my meet and great with Mike and Bruce tonight.... asking Bruce if he had tried the new Popeyes chicken sandwich. Actually answered saying no he hadn’t but he had read about it and was really looking forward to trying it.  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: CenturyDeprived on August 24, 2019, 12:39:02 AM
https://youtu.be/esROIwAj8Jk
Rob’s killing it!

Gotta give credit to Rob (and I guess Carnie) for what seems to be gracious gesture of trying to heal the fractures within the family. For whatever grief people give Mike (some deserved and some not), I'm nonetheless glad to see any type of Wilson/Love reconciliation between the families.

To witness any deep family fracture, even as an outsider, is a very, very sad thing indeed, so I hope this means at least there's some measure of good family vibrations behind the scenes. Sort of sums up how I felt about California Saga at their few appearances too. Maybe some wounds and some interpersonal behavior can't be healed between some family members, but maybe other aspects can.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: myonlysunshine on August 24, 2019, 06:01:23 AM
Mike made a comment when introducing Rob to the audience about how it’s good to “keep things in the family.” Which made me chuckle because that’s a very Murry Wilson thing to say, and I know from reading his autobiography that if there is one person who Mike despises above all others, it’s Murry — and rightfully so I might add.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 24, 2019, 10:55:09 AM
Mike made a comment when introducing Rob to the audience about how it’s good to “keep things in the family.” Which made me chuckle because that’s a very Murry Wilson thing to say, and I know from reading his autobiography that if there is one person who Mike despises above all others, it’s Murry — and rightfully so I might add.

HA! Wow. This guy...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on August 24, 2019, 12:58:45 PM
https://youtu.be/esROIwAj8Jk
Rob’s killing it!

So what’s happening with the video behind the group? Rob singing to a Carl lead with a young Jeff backing up? Is that another C50 type video tribute like Forever/GOKs?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: twentytwenty on August 24, 2019, 01:05:53 PM
https://youtu.be/esROIwAj8Jk
Rob’s killing it!

So what’s happening with the video behind the group? Rob singing to a Carl lead with a young Jeff backing up? Is that another C50 type video tribute like Forever/GOKs?
Nah, it’s just a video of them performing the song back in the 80s. Tribute to Carl I guess, but not like the C50 when they had their vocals.

Here’s the video they had running the background https://youtu.be/ARp7OMsFY2Y


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on August 24, 2019, 01:50:26 PM
Thanks. So it’s Rob singing lead to a song Brian did originally, to a video of Carl, and now sung by Jeff live who is off sick. Actually pretty pointless if you ask me.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: “Big Daddy” on August 24, 2019, 02:06:27 PM
Highlight of my meet and great with Mike and Bruce tonight.... asking Bruce if he had tried the new Popeyes chicken sandwich. Actually answered saying no he hadn’t but he had read about it and was really looking forward to trying it.  :lol

:lol Love hearing Bruce’s take on the topics of the day


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: twentytwenty on August 24, 2019, 02:14:00 PM
Thanks. So it’s Rob singing lead to a song Brian did originally, to a video of Carl, and now sung by Jeff live who is off sick. Actually pretty pointless if you ask me.

Rob is sounding great though, I like his vocals more than Matt


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on August 24, 2019, 02:27:48 PM
Oh his voice sounds fine. I just find the video disrespectful to all involved....most of all Rob.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: twentytwenty on August 24, 2019, 03:14:31 PM
Oh his voice sounds fine. I just find the video disrespectful to all involved....most of all Rob.
Agreed.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Marty Castillo on August 24, 2019, 03:37:50 PM
https://youtu.be/esROIwAj8Jk
Rob’s killing it!

So what’s happening with the video behind the group? Rob singing to a Carl lead with a young Jeff backing up? Is that another C50 type video tribute like Forever/GOKs?
Nah, it’s just a video of them performing the song back in the 80s. Tribute to Carl I guess, but not like the C50 when they had their vocals.

Here’s the video they had running the background https://youtu.be/ARp7OMsFY2Y

They have used that particularly video for a few years. I think the idea is when Jeff is singing it gives him some cache for how long he has been with the group, at least, that is how I always interpreted it. Now with Jeff not currently touring, it does seem rather pointless.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: UEF on August 25, 2019, 03:20:44 AM
I'm not convinced many people in the audience know who Carl Wilson was, either. The Beach Boys is a band to them rather than a group of individuals


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: myonlysunshine on August 25, 2019, 08:18:55 AM
I'm not convinced many people in the audience know who Carl Wilson was, either. The Beach Boys is a band to them rather than a group of individuals

And you would be correct. This is one of the biggest oddities that struck me at the concert last week. While I was waiting for the VIP experience to start I overheard so many people in the audience basically admit in one form or another that they had very little idea who the original Beach Boys were (one couple said they thought only 3 people founded the band, and no, they weren't referring to how many founding members are still alive or how many of them are in the current band either). And during intermission, a very nice elderly gentleman who was sitting next to me admitted that he had no idea which of the band members who were performing on stage were the "originals", which was the most surprising thing I heard all night (he claimed to be a longtime fan, and based on other things he said to me I believe him).


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: twentytwenty on August 25, 2019, 09:36:03 AM
I'm not convinced many people in the audience know who Carl Wilson was, either. The Beach Boys is a band to them rather than a group of individuals

And you would be correct. This is one of the biggest oddities that struck me at the concert last week. While I was waiting for the VIP experience to start I overheard so many people in the audience basically admit in one form or another that they had very little idea who the original Beach Boys were (one couple said they thought only 3 people founded the band, and no, they weren't referring to how many founding members are still alive or how many of them are in the current band either). And during intermission, a very nice elderly gentleman who was sitting next to me admitted that he had no idea which of the band members who were performing on stage were the "originals", which was the most surprising thing I heard all night (he claimed to be a longtime fan, and based on other things he said to me I believe him).

Well, you can be a fan of the music and listen to it for years without knowing anything about the members names or whatever.. Not everybody cares about that stuff


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: myonlysunshine on August 25, 2019, 09:43:50 AM
I'm not convinced many people in the audience know who Carl Wilson was, either. The Beach Boys is a band to them rather than a group of individuals

And you would be correct. This is one of the biggest oddities that struck me at the concert last week. While I was waiting for the VIP experience to start I overheard so many people in the audience basically admit in one form or another that they had very little idea who the original Beach Boys were (one couple said they thought only 3 people founded the band, and no, they weren't referring to how many founding members are still alive or how many of them are in the current band either). And during intermission, a very nice elderly gentleman who was sitting next to me admitted that he had no idea which of the band members who were performing on stage were the "originals", which was the most surprising thing I heard all night (he claimed to be a longtime fan, and based on other things he said to me I believe him).

Well, you can be a fan of the music and listen to it for years without knowing anything about the members names or whatever.. Not everybody cares about that stuff

True, but to go decades without acquiring even a little bit of knowledge about the band's lineup is still surprising to me. One would think somewhere along the way of one's longtime fandom that a person might inadvertently find out who Mike Love is, but I guess that's not always the case.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 25, 2019, 10:49:36 AM
Totally normal. That's one difference between Brian Wilson's crowds and "The Beach Boys" crowds...and thus has been the case their entire career. I actually wrote a paper about their ambiguity for my American Musical History class freshman year of college. They did this to themselves and created a "brand" for the media's eye instead of a "band". It's one reason why The Beatles had no trouble surpassing them (and many others) in popularity stateside.

When I end up discussing the Beach Boys in any sort of social setting, I'll always try to instigate just how much band member knowledge they have. Most people know Brian Wilson as the crazy genius behind it all. A few people know Mike Love, and always have a negative connotation of him. They are often aware of "Wilson Brothers" and that one drowned. Alan, Bruce, and David are seldom ever mentioned.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 26, 2019, 07:37:48 AM
I didn't know they had been running background video of Carl and Jeff singing "Don't Worry Baby" from that 1987 Belgium concert. How odd.

I agree that it most likely was put in the show to play off of Jeff singing the song now in the band. Still tacky (both to continue to use video of a still-living member who Mike left in 2012, and also to use background concert video literally only as a visual without even using the Carl lead vocal), but makes some sense.

With Jeff not currently touring, the whole thing is just extra odd. I mean, assuming Mike can't pay someone to re-edit the background video if he's so intent on using it, they could, you know, just drop the video and do regular concert lighting for that song or something. The whole thing seems rather lazy. I feel like some of what they've run in terms of background video on stage at Mike's shows is like literally just pulled from YouTube. I recall seeing one video a few years ago that still had a timecode on it.

I'm curious how many other old bands are out there touring who play 30-40 year old video in the background featuring still-living members that the members on stage ditched. I'm sure it's possible there are some of those old Motown acts with like one original members who might run some old footage of the old band.

It's strange how much things have morphed in the BB world. Back in the late 90s and early-mid 2000s, Mike would barely ever even say Al's name, and I can't imagine he would have ever run video or even pictures of Al on stage. Now everything seems so entrenched and settled and, I dunno, maybe everybody is so burnt out on lawsuits that Mike just continually runs photos and videos of all the members that *aren't* on stage, and nobody seems to care. Kind of sad frankly. I'm not saying I want to see litigation again (apparently after a bit of kerfuffle back in 2012/2013; the camps seem to have hashed something out as far as Mike using Brian and Al's images on stage), but it's just sad that Brian and Al (and Carl and Dennis) are now like stage decorations on Mike's tour.

I thought the Carl and Dennis bits during C50 were the best thing they could have done to pay tribute to those guys. But it has now morphed into just using old imagery to capitalize on deceased and *still-living* members (who were ditched) without having to actually involve them (e.g. pay them) to be on stage.

I'm curious, how much background video of Lindsey Buckingham is Fleetwood Mac currently using on stage?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: CenturyDeprived on August 26, 2019, 08:29:22 AM
I didn't know they had been running background video of Carl and Jeff singing "Don't Worry Baby" from that 1987 Belgium concert. How odd.

I agree that it most likely was put in the show to play off of Jeff singing the song now in the band. Still tacky (both to continue to use video of a still-living member who Mike left in 2012, and also to use background concert video literally only as a visual without even using the Carl lead vocal), but makes some sense.

With Jeff not currently touring, the whole thing is just extra odd. I mean, assuming Mike can't pay someone to re-edit the background video if he's so intent on using it, they could, you know, just drop the video and do regular concert lighting for that song or something. The whole thing seems rather lazy. I feel like some of what they've run in terms of background video on stage at Mike's shows is like literally just pulled from YouTube. I recall seeing one video a few years ago that still had a timecode on it.

I'm curious how many other old bands are out there touring who play 30-40 year old video in the background featuring still-living members that the members on stage ditched. I'm sure it's possible there are some of those old Motown acts with like one original members who might run some old footage of the old band.

It's strange how much things have morphed in the BB world. Back in the late 90s and early-mid 2000s, Mike would barely ever even say Al's name, and I can't imagine he would have ever run video or even pictures of Al on stage. Now everything seems so entrenched and settled and, I dunno, maybe everybody is so burnt out on lawsuits that Mike just continually runs photos and videos of all the members that *aren't* on stage, and nobody seems to care. Kind of sad frankly. I'm not saying I want to see litigation again (apparently after a bit of kerfuffle back in 2012/2013; the camps seem to have hashed something out as far as Mike using Brian and Al's images on stage), but it's just sad that Brian and Al (and Carl and Dennis) are now like stage decorations on Mike's tour.

I thought the Carl and Dennis bits during C50 were the best thing they could have done to pay tribute to those guys. But it has now morphed into just using old imagery to capitalize on deceased and *still-living* members (who were ditched) without having to actually involve them (e.g. pay them) to be on stage.

I'm curious, how much background video of Lindsey Buckingham is Fleetwood Mac currently using on stage?

It's indeed very tacky and quite baffling.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Marty Castillo on August 26, 2019, 09:12:27 AM
I didn't know they had been running background video of Carl and Jeff singing "Don't Worry Baby" from that 1987 Belgium concert. How odd.

I agree that it most likely was put in the show to play off of Jeff singing the song now in the band. Still tacky (both to continue to use video of a still-living member who Mike left in 2012, and also to use background concert video literally only as a visual without even using the Carl lead vocal), but makes some sense.

With Jeff not currently touring, the whole thing is just extra odd. I mean, assuming Mike can't pay someone to re-edit the background video if he's so intent on using it, they could, you know, just drop the video and do regular concert lighting for that song or something. The whole thing seems rather lazy. I feel like some of what they've run in terms of background video on stage at Mike's shows is like literally just pulled from YouTube. I recall seeing one video a few years ago that still had a timecode on it.

I'm curious how many other old bands are out there touring who play 30-40 year old video in the background featuring still-living members that the members on stage ditched. I'm sure it's possible there are some of those old Motown acts with like one original members who might run some old footage of the old band.

It's strange how much things have morphed in the BB world. Back in the late 90s and early-mid 2000s, Mike would barely ever even say Al's name, and I can't imagine he would have ever run video or even pictures of Al on stage. Now everything seems so entrenched and settled and, I dunno, maybe everybody is so burnt out on lawsuits that Mike just continually runs photos and videos of all the members that *aren't* on stage, and nobody seems to care. Kind of sad frankly. I'm not saying I want to see litigation again (apparently after a bit of kerfuffle back in 2012/2013; the camps seem to have hashed something out as far as Mike using Brian and Al's images on stage), but it's just sad that Brian and Al (and Carl and Dennis) are now like stage decorations on Mike's tour.

I thought the Carl and Dennis bits during C50 were the best thing they could have done to pay tribute to those guys. But it has now morphed into just using old imagery to capitalize on deceased and *still-living* members (who were ditched) without having to actually involve them (e.g. pay them) to be on stage.

I'm curious, how much background video of Lindsey Buckingham is Fleetwood Mac currently using on stage?

There is also a video montage that runs during Fun, Fun, Fun that features the members of the band, including Jeff Foskett. It seemed a little odd and lazy to include that, as well.

I think they use the video screens well for parts of the show and others it just doesn't add anything. I fully agree, some of it is ripped directly from YouTube and I'm sure the source on a lot of it is ripped from a VHS recorded from television in the 80s or 90s. Makes me think they don't have access to the archives...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 26, 2019, 11:31:49 AM
It's just super extra ironic if Mike's tour is sourcing stuff from YouTube, because BRI absolutely has someone going out on YouTube, eBay, and other places online and having things pulled all the time (not to mention separately the record labels having stuff pulled from YouTube, etc.).

And while more recent stuff I can find on YouTube seems to be missing it, here's a 2015 live performance of "Do You Wanna Dance" with the Dennis backing film where the video footage clearly has a timecode on it (which many version of it on YouTube have):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re9z7PoN2S8


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on August 26, 2019, 01:49:36 PM
Ironic considering the who-ha with the use of Mikes image on the UK Sunday paper album giveaway some years back.

Considering the powers that be do read these boards, what are the chances the Jeff/Carl video is gone by the next show?  Just tell the guy not to press ‘play’ on that one.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: CenturyDeprived on August 26, 2019, 02:29:12 PM
It's just super extra ironic if Mike's tour is sourcing stuff from YouTube, because BRI absolutely has someone going out on YouTube, eBay, and other places online and having things pulled all the time (not to mention separately the record labels having stuff pulled from YouTube, etc.).

And while more recent stuff I can find on YouTube seems to be missing it, here's a 2015 live performance of "Do You Wanna Dance" with the Dennis backing film where the video footage clearly has a timecode on it (which many version of it on YouTube have):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re9z7PoN2S8


Student Demonstration Timecode 
Isn't it Timecode
Hot Fun in the Summertimecode


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on August 26, 2019, 03:44:43 PM
The MO for years has been Mike seemingly doing whatever he wants and pushing the boundaries of what he can do under the terms with BRI, and like a war of attrition I think it's assumed other parties get fed up with the time and money to fight it, so Mike does what Mike wants to do anyway. Numerous examples are available.

As far as using that damn video screen, the irony again is how Mike didn't want to do more of a C50 setup, yet poached the video screen idea for his own tours and left the other surviving members behind. Now they're on stage with Mike in cheap quality video form instead.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 26, 2019, 07:17:19 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong as I only saw M&B once prior to C50: The Beach Boys (or the band that tours as them) never toured with a video screen prior to C50, yes? I don't mean, cameras projected THEM onto a screen, I mean a presentation was prepared the aligned with the music for the evening.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 27, 2019, 06:48:07 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong as I only saw M&B once prior to C50: The Beach Boys (or the band that tours as them) never toured with a video screen prior to C50, yes? I don't mean, cameras projected THEM onto a screen, I mean a presentation was prepared the aligned with the music for the evening.

I recall that when Mike went back out after C50, reports indeed were that he had poached the video screen idea from the C50 presentation, down to, in some cases, the literal same presentation/preparation (e.g. syncing to Carl's Knebworth lead on "God Only Knows").

Early on (in early-mid 2013 as I recall, but I can't be sure of the exact time frame), fans and spectators noticed that various video footage behind Mike's band included footage/pictures of Brian and Al. Supposedly, Brian and Al (or their "people") asked that their likenesses *not* be used on Mike's tour. Whether one actually has to pay for that type of likeness rights, I'm honestly not sure. If it were a film or TV show (or home video release, etc.), likeness rights would have to be cleared. But I'm not sure when it comes to that sort of live video presentation. In any event, Brian and Al's faces were removed from the video presentation. At some *later* point (I honestly can't remember when, but it was within a year or two, if not sooner), vintage Brian and Al footage/pictures reappeared on Mike's tour. I would assume/hope this was due to Brian and Al softening on the issue and allowing it, as opposed to Mike just doing it.

I think Mike using old pics and film of all the old members strikes many long-time fans as odd. I mean, I think some fans find it weird and arguably distasteful. But separate from that, it's also surprising for long-time fans that remember the early years after Carl and Al were gone from the touring band in 1998. In the case of Al in particular, Mike seemed to almost never even mention Al's *name*. I think there was, and I'm just guessing, an extra wariness about Al being associated with the band in the 1998-early 2000s time frame, due to Al *not* being on Mike's tour anymore, and also the ongoing BRI lawsuits over Al using the "BBFF" name to tour. I recall back in 2001 one insider claiming that there was consternation even when Al did something like go on an internet radio show to promote the "Hawthorne, CA" set. Certainly, I don't think back then that Mike would have *ever* put Al's face on a video screen behind his stage presentation. Again, it was surprising in that era to even see Mike say Al's name in an interview.

One has to remember that one of the many issues in the background of the various touring "camps", even after all of the naming lawsuits with BRI and Al and all of that were resolved, revolves around billing of their respective shows. A few years ago Al gave an interview where he indicated there was continued "reminders" to the Brian/Al tour to not too prominently use "Beach Boys" in their billing. I think Al, from what I've heard, has often been harangued over the years even when doing "Beach Band" shows at street fairs and other low-key events, over how he bills himself as a "Beach Boy." I think this sort of arguably borderline harassment on the issue (let's remember Brian and Al are allowed to say they are Beach Boys as a descriptor) is part of what may have taken Brian and Al aback when their faces were being used on Mike's tour.

But I again maintain, and I'm just guessing, that they are all content *enough* with no lawsuits flying, so the sort of status quo/possession is 9/10 of the law sort of mentality rules the day for better or worse.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on September 02, 2019, 11:18:51 PM
I was at the show tonight, and there is a very brief shot of Carl's guitar from that one show in...was it Belgium? Anyway, that's all it was. I don't recall seeing Jeff's face in the video footage at all. The video footage was pretty much continuous throughout the show - I guess this is the new thing for aging rock bands; I saw America last fall, and they did the same thing. There were a lot of shots of Mike, Bruce, Carl, Dennis; there were even a few pics of Brian. I don't recall any close ups of Al, but he was in a lot of the group shots that were used. Brian and Al were not mentioned at all during the show, but Mike did talk about Carl having been the lead singer on God Only Knows until his death 21 years ago; then he mentioned that George Harrison died from the same thing - cancer - as a lead in to Pisces Brothers. Dennis was mentioned briefly by Bruce when they did Do You Wanna Dance.
Some people are always looking for something sinister, something to be offended by. I didn't see that. I saw a great band onstage playing the catalog of America's greatest rock and roll band. We are lucky that Mike is still in good health, still out there playing these songs with a great band. No, it's not the original band, it can never be the original band without Carl and Dennis.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: chewy on September 03, 2019, 12:37:26 AM
yea so one of the reasons I havent seen Al jardine beach band show on tour is cause Mike wont have it?   Al IS a beach boys so he will always be Al Jardine of the Beach Boys


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: chewy on September 03, 2019, 12:37:52 AM
i saw pics of Al tonight for sure but i didnt notice any Brian, but the other guy said he did, i dont focus on the screens to much,  but i thought the video production was well done, better than previous tours- also the intro music is very exciting and good, similar to what the stones are doing this tour- i liked it


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Marty Castillo on September 03, 2019, 07:40:02 AM
I saw the Beach Boys a little over a month ago and they definitely used footage of Carl and Jeff from this concert during "Don't Worry Baby": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyrn-K805ww


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on September 03, 2019, 10:22:21 AM
I saw the Beach Boys a little over a month ago and they definitely used footage of Carl and Jeff from this concert during "Don't Worry Baby": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyrn-K805ww
Well, I probably wasn't 100% focused on the video screens - I mean, i'm there to see a live band. Would be funny if I just watched the videos all night. But I think you are wasting your time trying to find something sinister. Seriously, there are more important things in the world to worry about.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 03, 2019, 11:41:12 AM
Nobody is finding something "sinister" about this stuff. Clearly, a few fans have noted the odd nature of running, relatively in sync apparently, a 1987 concert video of Carl Wilson and Jeff Foskett singing "Don't Worry Baby" while someone else (Bonfiglio or Eichenberger or whomever) sings it live.

Yes, some people find various elements of Mike's stage presentation (e.g. the video, the speeches) as tacky or distasteful, or whatever. But Mike's putting all that stuff out there; there's no need to go searching for it. Nobody is noting stuff that isn't there.

There's always going to be the "I got a beer and a seat and I recognize that song and it's all good!" sort of fan. Indeed, it's what Mike's tours are built on. I have no doubt anybody outside of some knowledgeable, hardcore fans are noticing or caring much about what's on the video screen at Mike's shows. Maybe a few casual fans are a bit confused by it, at worst.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: hideyotsuburaya on September 03, 2019, 12:38:13 PM
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Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Marty Castillo on September 03, 2019, 12:56:52 PM
I saw the Beach Boys a little over a month ago and they definitely used footage of Carl and Jeff from this concert during "Don't Worry Baby": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyrn-K805ww
Well, I probably wasn't 100% focused on the video screens - I mean, i'm there to see a live band. Would be funny if I just watched the videos all night. But I think you are wasting your time trying to find something sinister. Seriously, there are more important things in the world to worry about.

I've been to multiple Brian Wilson and Mike & Bruce shows over the past few years, so I am truly Switzerland when it comes to all things Beach Boys in 2019. The first time I saw the video linked above paired with Don't Worry Baby and Jeff taking the lead a couple years ago, it had the intended effect on me--wow, Jeff has been with the group for some time now.

It seemed odd to me that they were still using that video with Jeff not in attendance--IMO, easy enough to not play it. I only shared the link in the hopes that it would spark a memory from the concert you attended. It's entirely possible that it was removed recently, but that might point to them reading (and reacting) to things posted on message boards.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 03, 2019, 02:06:10 PM
Considering the powers that be do read these boards, what are the chances the Jeff/Carl video is gone by the next show?  Just tell the guy not to press ‘play’ on that one.

And what do you know....

https://youtu.be/O_1YaR4ZbBM

Edit: Looking again at the clip I could be mistaken. I still see a guitar behind the group.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 03, 2019, 04:08:21 PM
Considering the powers that be do read these boards, what are the chances the Jeff/Carl video is gone by the next show?  Just tell the guy not to press ‘play’ on that one.

And what do you know....

https://youtu.be/O_1YaR4ZbBM

Edit: Looking again at the clip I could be mistaken. I still see a guitar behind the group.

It's the same video. It blends into the Foskett footage. The vocals were really thin and unsteady on that...damn.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on September 03, 2019, 05:44:25 PM
Who is the new falsetto singer/third keyboardist in Mike's band?  ... Or Ike/Rob/Jeff's fill in?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3EYd7qWuiA


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: startBBtoday on September 03, 2019, 06:42:38 PM
Who is the new falsetto singer/third keyboardist in Mike's band?  ... Or Ike/Rob/Jeff's fill in?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3EYd7qWuiA

I don't know, but it's pretty amazing they're down to fourth on the falsetto depth chart this summer.

Just from the 5-second clips of each song, he doesn't sound very Beach Boys-y.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 03, 2019, 07:25:01 PM
Who is the new falsetto singer/third keyboardist in Mike's band?  ... Or Ike/Rob/Jeff's fill in?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3EYd7qWuiA

I don't know, but it's pretty amazing they're down to fourth on the falsetto depth chart this summer.

Just from the 5-second clips of each song, he doesn't sound very Beach Boys-y.

Damn rough vocals in that clip, too. Do they really need a second pretend keyboardist?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on September 03, 2019, 08:08:16 PM
Who is the new falsetto singer/third keyboardist in Mike's band?  ... Or Ike/Rob/Jeff's fill in?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3EYd7qWuiA

I don't know, but it's pretty amazing they're down to fourth on the falsetto depth chart this summer.

Just from the 5-second clips of each song, he doesn't sound very Beach Boys-y.

Damn rough vocals in that clip, too. Do they really need a second pretend keyboardist?

Boy i second that, whoever he is he must have been apprenticing at the Bruce Johnston school of clapping, fake keyboard playing and microphone adjusting. All that aside he doesn’t sound that great.....

https://youtu.be/4h-BfCPmOmE


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on September 03, 2019, 08:42:12 PM
It is funny how similar his mannerisms are to Bruce. It made me chuckle, like watching a mini-me, not in looks, but in movements. I think he's getting too harsh of a wrap, he looks young, he's probably nervous. He sounds okay to me. He's no Ike or Matt Jardine, but he does the job in my mind. Sometimes I really feel like, to everyone on here, Mike can do no nothing right.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Justin on September 03, 2019, 08:56:43 PM
The vocals here are labeled "rough" yet the latest videos of Brian's performance are heralded as "great"?

So predictable.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on September 04, 2019, 12:33:43 AM
The vocals here are labeled "rough" yet the latest videos of Brian's performance are heralded as "great"?

So predictable.
Well, I was at the show last night, and I thought the falsetto guy sounded great! In fact, the first truly moving moment in the show for me was when he sang Don't Worry Baby. Of course, it wasn't just his vocal - it was also how perfectly the band backed him up, and just the fact that it's an amazing song, the way it modulates from one key to the next. That might be my favorite BB's song now. One thing that's always annoyed me about the record of DWB is the poor stereo mix - which was used on some of the comps back in the vinyl days, and always seemed to be the one I heard on the radio, too. The lead vocal is off alone in one channel, and the backing kind of overpowers in in that mix. The mono is so much better! Yes, you can count me a fan of mono.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: rab2591 on September 04, 2019, 04:02:52 AM
The vocals here are labeled "rough" yet the latest videos of Brian's performance are heralded as "great"?

So predictable.

Just want to clarify your point that no one labeled Brian's recent performance as "great", but that one person said the "clips" sound great - this same person is probably one of the most positive members of this forum giving credit to both Mike and Brian's band whenever they can...so it's not like the same person who labeled the vocals "rough" here was also claiming that Brian's clips were "great".

I think the closest compliment that Brian got was that he is more engaged during the recent concert. Just a few days ago there was a call for Brian to quit touring - and people almost unanimously agreed that Brian's performances have been on the weak side. Brian then seemed to turn it around and the response was fairly positive on this forum. At least from that angle, there's nothing predictable there.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: startBBtoday on September 04, 2019, 08:23:56 AM
I see M+B pretty often and always enjoy myself. I thought Rob did great as a fill-in a few weeks ago.

That being said, this isn't how you sing Surfer Girl: https://youtu.be/X3EYd7qWuiA?t=38

It's ooooh, not whoooa.

I know this sounds like the biggest nitpick of all time, but it's more Four Seasons than it is Beach Boys. I'd echo that sentiment in what I can hear of his version of Don't Worry Baby.

https://youtu.be/X3EYd7qWuiA?t=51

I'm sure they had to find him quickly and it wasn't an ideal situation, but I'm just calling it like it is.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 04, 2019, 08:52:38 AM
Wow, that is a bit confusing. So now Bonfilgio is out and they have some other random guy, now on keyboards? They need three keyboardists? I always thought Totten could do a resonable falsetto.

If Bonfiglio is out to go back to Brian's band, it's weird they had Kirsch in just for two gigs with Brian? Not to mention, why wouldn't Mike just have Randell Kirsch come back and sub in again in *his* band? I guess I would normally wonder if that would be awkward if the speculation/indications were correct that Kirsch got elbowed out of the band to make room for Eichenberger back in 2015. But I recall that when Eichenberger left again a year or two after that, they had Kirsch back for at least a few gigs until they got a new bass player (which I think is still that Hubacher guy).

It's weird how Mike is now choosing to balloon his band more. It appears Hubacher rarely if ever sings, so I wonder why a couple years ago Mike chose to replace Eichenberger (who sang and played bass) with *two* members, one who sings (Christian Love) and one who doesn't (Hubacher)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: BeachBoysCovers on September 04, 2019, 10:43:03 AM
Wow, that is a bit confusing. So now Bonfilgio is out and they have some other random guy, now on keyboards? They need three keyboardists? I always thought Totten could do a resonable falsetto.

If Bonfiglio is out to go back to Brian's band, it's weird they had Kirsch in just for two gigs with Brian? Not to mention, why wouldn't Mike just have Randell Kirsch come back and sub in again in *his* band? I guess I would normally wonder if that would be awkward if the speculation/indications were correct that Kirsch got elbowed out of the band to make room for Eichenberger back in 2015. But I recall that when Eichenberger left again a year or two after that, they had Kirsch back for at least a few gigs until they got a new bass player (which I think is still that Hubacher guy).

It's weird how Mike is now choosing to balloon his band more. It appears Hubacher rarely if ever sings, so I wonder why a couple years ago Mike chose to replace Eichenberger (who sang and played bass) with *two* members, one who sings (Christian Love) and one who doesn't (Hubacher)

The most noticeable time (only time?) Hubacher seems to sing is on Getcha Back. I'm sure I saw him singing during another song last time I saw them since he was right in my eyeline, but can't recall what it was.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: rschwertley on September 04, 2019, 12:36:33 PM
Wow, that is a bit confusing. So now Bonfilgio is out and they have some other random guy, now on keyboards? They need three keyboardists? I always thought Totten could do a resonable falsetto.

If Bonfiglio is out to go back to Brian's band, it's weird they had Kirsch in just for two gigs with Brian? Not to mention, why wouldn't Mike just have Randell Kirsch come back and sub in again in *his* band? I guess I would normally wonder if that would be awkward if the speculation/indications were correct that Kirsch got elbowed out of the band to make room for Eichenberger back in 2015. But I recall that when Eichenberger left again a year or two after that, they had Kirsch back for at least a few gigs until they got a new bass player (which I think is still that Hubacher guy).

It's weird how Mike is now choosing to balloon his band more. It appears Hubacher rarely if ever sings, so I wonder why a couple years ago Mike chose to replace Eichenberger (who sang and played bass) with *two* members, one who sings (Christian Love) and one who doesn't (Hubacher)

For the life of me I couldn't figure out who was on the keyboards at the Puyallup show 9/2 (to Mike's direct left, with Bruce being at Mike's direct right). After some digging I figured out it was Matthew Jordan (https://matthewjordan.com/). Sounds like he did some shows with them in August, in place of Bonfiglio. Not sure if Bonfiglio is returning or if Jordan is filling in until someone else returns (Eichenberger?)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: thelonelysea on September 04, 2019, 01:07:33 PM
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Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: BeachBoysCovers on September 04, 2019, 01:17:44 PM
Wow, that is a bit confusing. So now Bonfilgio is out and they have some other random guy, now on keyboards? They need three keyboardists? I always thought Totten could do a resonable falsetto.

If Bonfiglio is out to go back to Brian's band, it's weird they had Kirsch in just for two gigs with Brian? Not to mention, why wouldn't Mike just have Randell Kirsch come back and sub in again in *his* band? I guess I would normally wonder if that would be awkward if the speculation/indications were correct that Kirsch got elbowed out of the band to make room for Eichenberger back in 2015. But I recall that when Eichenberger left again a year or two after that, they had Kirsch back for at least a few gigs until they got a new bass player (which I think is still that Hubacher guy).

It's weird how Mike is now choosing to balloon his band more. It appears Hubacher rarely if ever sings, so I wonder why a couple years ago Mike chose to replace Eichenberger (who sang and played bass) with *two* members, one who sings (Christian Love) and one who doesn't (Hubacher)

For the life of me I couldn't figure out who was on the keyboards at the Puyallup show 9/2 (to Mike's direct left, with Bruce being at Mike's direct right). After some digging I figured out it was Matthew Jordan (https://matthewjordan.com/). Sounds like he did some shows with them in August, in place of Bonfiglio. Not sure if Bonfiglio is returning or if Jordan is filling in until someone else returns (Eichenberger?)

Matthew Jordan worked on the Sam Hollander produced tracks from the last two Mike albums. On RFTS tracks he did backing vocals and keyboards and on 12SOS he did vocal arrangements and backing vocals.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: chewy on September 04, 2019, 01:19:16 PM
Look you guys ive seen em all this year- Neil, Croz, Stones, Trower, Arlo, Queen, ELO, Santana.......The Beach Boys set is one of the most high energy upbeat shows which goes 1,000,000 m.p.h almost the whole way through.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 04, 2019, 01:35:53 PM
Wow, that is a bit confusing. So now Bonfilgio is out and they have some other random guy, now on keyboards? They need three keyboardists? I always thought Totten could do a resonable falsetto.

If Bonfiglio is out to go back to Brian's band, it's weird they had Kirsch in just for two gigs with Brian? Not to mention, why wouldn't Mike just have Randell Kirsch come back and sub in again in *his* band? I guess I would normally wonder if that would be awkward if the speculation/indications were correct that Kirsch got elbowed out of the band to make room for Eichenberger back in 2015. But I recall that when Eichenberger left again a year or two after that, they had Kirsch back for at least a few gigs until they got a new bass player (which I think is still that Hubacher guy).

It's weird how Mike is now choosing to balloon his band more. It appears Hubacher rarely if ever sings, so I wonder why a couple years ago Mike chose to replace Eichenberger (who sang and played bass) with *two* members, one who sings (Christian Love) and one who doesn't (Hubacher)

For the life of me I couldn't figure out who was on the keyboards at the Puyallup show 9/2 (to Mike's direct left, with Bruce being at Mike's direct right). After some digging I figured out it was Matthew Jordan (https://matthewjordan.com/). Sounds like he did some shows with them in August, in place of Bonfiglio. Not sure if Bonfiglio is returning or if Jordan is filling in until someone else returns (Eichenberger?)

Good find on that. I mean, I think I notice that the trend is that Mike seems to like to bring in younger people when he brings in new players and singers, but I'm still perplexed they're having to go so deep on the bench so to speak when any number of ex-members are surely at the ready. No calls to Adrian Baker or Randell Kirsch this time around? Or Farmer? I know they play in other bands, but all of these BB cover bands seem to function as a farm league for BB-related touring bands.

I'm curious if the bottom-line thinking Mike Love is going to, perhaps in the new year, get Eichenberger back to a full-time commitment and move him back to bass, and then he doesn't have to keep Hubacher. I'm still really surprised Mike hired on a (mostly) non-singing bass player (I remember one of the supposed/alleged justifications for letting go Meros back in 2001 after all those years was that he was not a backing singer). He essentially replaced Eichenberger a couple years ago with two guys (Hubacher and a returning Christian Love). I guess they're having some flexibility problems; they had two fully capable falsetto singers with Foskett and Kirsch/Eichenberger, then lost all of them (whether temporarily or permanently).

I'm surprised they're not having Totten take on more falsetto parts (I'm assuming he can still do them to some degree?), which would allow them to be able to fan out more to find another additional member to fill in for Foskett/Eichenberger, to where they wouldn't have to find someone who can sing high parts.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: startBBtoday on September 04, 2019, 04:09:24 PM
Guys, I think I've got this issue figured out. Brian and M+B can share a falsetto singer by, you know, joining forces as The Beach Boys.

Seems a lot less complicated. I'm surprised they've never thought of it.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on September 04, 2019, 06:54:21 PM
Wow, that is a bit confusing. So now Bonfilgio is out and they have some other random guy, now on keyboards? They need three keyboardists? I always thought Totten could do a resonable falsetto.

If Bonfiglio is out to go back to Brian's band, it's weird they had Kirsch in just for two gigs with Brian? Not to mention, why wouldn't Mike just have Randell Kirsch come back and sub in again in *his* band? I guess I would normally wonder if that would be awkward if the speculation/indications were correct that Kirsch got elbowed out of the band to make room for Eichenberger back in 2015. But I recall that when Eichenberger left again a year or two after that, they had Kirsch back for at least a few gigs until they got a new bass player (which I think is still that Hubacher guy).

It's weird how Mike is now choosing to balloon his band more. It appears Hubacher rarely if ever sings, so I wonder why a couple years ago Mike chose to replace Eichenberger (who sang and played bass) with *two* members, one who sings (Christian Love) and one who doesn't (Hubacher)

For the life of me I couldn't figure out who was on the keyboards at the Puyallup show 9/2 (to Mike's direct left, with Bruce being at Mike's direct right). After some digging I figured out it was Matthew Jordan (https://matthewjordan.com/). Sounds like he did some shows with them in August, in place of Bonfiglio. Not sure if Bonfiglio is returning or if Jordan is filling in until someone else returns (Eichenberger?)
Thank you for the link. I am officially a fan of this guy now. I thought his falsetto leads were excellent.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 04, 2019, 06:57:36 PM
The vocals here are labeled "rough" yet the latest videos of Brian's performance are heralded as "great"?

So predictable.

Ha ha. I’m reminded of the group 40 years ago. Mike, Carl and Al carrying the heavy load then Dennis comes out and croaks through ‘You Are So Beautiful’ to a standing O.  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on September 04, 2019, 07:20:49 PM
Guys, I think I've got this issue figured out. Brian and M+B can share a falsetto singer by, you know, joining forces as The Beach Boys.

Seems a lot less complicated. I'm surprised they've never thought of it.
  :lol



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: marcella27 on September 04, 2019, 08:18:13 PM
Guys, I think I've got this issue figured out. Brian and M+B can share a falsetto singer by, you know, joining forces as The Beach Boys.

Seems a lot less complicated. I'm surprised they've never thought of it.
 :lol




And Mike already has the accompanying video all ready to go!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 05, 2019, 06:35:22 AM
It's interesting to watch Mike's band balloon in size considering his stated aversion to a larger band during C50. He noted there were too many members on stage competing for parts. This from the guy who now has three keyboardists on stage (and/or three guitarists) in addition to a non-vocalist bassist and a sax player. Plus Stamos when he shows up.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: c-man on September 05, 2019, 08:12:52 AM
Wow, that is a bit confusing. So now Bonfilgio is out and they have some other random guy, now on keyboards? They need three keyboardists? I always thought Totten could do a resonable falsetto.

If Bonfiglio is out to go back to Brian's band, it's weird they had Kirsch in just for two gigs with Brian? Not to mention, why wouldn't Mike just have Randell Kirsch come back and sub in again in *his* band? I guess I would normally wonder if that would be awkward if the speculation/indications were correct that Kirsch got elbowed out of the band to make room for Eichenberger back in 2015. But I recall that when Eichenberger left again a year or two after that, they had Kirsch back for at least a few gigs until they got a new bass player (which I think is still that Hubacher guy).

It's weird how Mike is now choosing to balloon his band more. It appears Hubacher rarely if ever sings, so I wonder why a couple years ago Mike chose to replace Eichenberger (who sang and played bass) with *two* members, one who sings (Christian Love) and one who doesn't (Hubacher)

For the life of me I couldn't figure out who was on the keyboards at the Puyallup show 9/2 (to Mike's direct left, with Bruce being at Mike's direct right). After some digging I figured out it was Matthew Jordan (https://matthewjordan.com/). Sounds like he did some shows with them in August, in place of Bonfiglio. Not sure if Bonfiglio is returning or if Jordan is filling in until someone else returns (Eichenberger?)
Thank you for the link. I am officially a fan of this guy now. I thought his falsetto leads were excellent.

Matt Jordan is scheduled to appear with M&B the next couple of months until Ike's return.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on September 05, 2019, 08:54:33 AM
It's interesting to watch Mike's band balloon in size considering his stated aversion to a larger band during C50. He noted there were too many members on stage competing for parts. This from the guy who now has three keyboardists on stage (and/or three guitarists) in addition to a non-vocalist bassist and a sax player. Plus Stamos when he shows up.

Ironic and contradictory, right? Not just the C50 reasoning, but when his book came out there were people close to Mike and his book praising his financial acumen, and how he likes to run a "lean n' mean" touring operation (that's what was said...), going as far as to point out how Mike even rents his backline of amps and other assorted stage gear so they don't need to lug it around, not to mention the smaller band setup Mike was running in the years before and after C50. And I'm assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that pointing out and praising Mike's "lean n' mean" operation and stage setup was being offered as a contrast to both C50 AND Brian's stage band with all those musicians on stage.

It's funny how things change. Wonder if ticket sales and return numbers on some recent tours had an effect on Mike's adding that many more musicians to his stage and overall crew.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: c-man on September 05, 2019, 10:10:37 AM
It's interesting to watch Mike's band balloon in size considering his stated aversion to a larger band during C50. He noted there were too many members on stage competing for parts. This from the guy who now has three keyboardists on stage (and/or three guitarists) in addition to a non-vocalist bassist and a sax player. Plus Stamos when he shows up.

Well, to be fair, Mike's band has only grown from 7 (including 2 principals) to 9. The C50 tour started with 15 guys (down to 14 when Nicky had to drop out), including 5 principals. Plus, I'm sure Mike's backline crew is still smaller than Brian's. And, as stated, Mike's band usually plays with rented gear, so right there you save a ton on transportation costs. All said, I doubt Mike's touring expenses come anywhere near Brian's, even now with the addition of two more band members.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: CenturyDeprived on September 05, 2019, 11:00:17 AM
It's interesting to watch Mike's band balloon in size considering his stated aversion to a larger band during C50. He noted there were too many members on stage competing for parts. This from the guy who now has three keyboardists on stage (and/or three guitarists) in addition to a non-vocalist bassist and a sax player. Plus Stamos when he shows up.

Well, to be fair, Mike's band has only grown from 7 (including 2 principals) to 9. The C50 tour started with 15 guys (down to 14 when Nicky had to drop out), including 5 principals. Plus, I'm sure Mike's backline crew is still smaller than Brian's. And, as stated, Mike's band usually plays with rented gear, so right there you save a ton on transportation costs. All said, I doubt Mike's touring expenses come anywhere near Brian's, even now with the addition of two more band members.


In terms of rented gear, does this just mean they rent amps and a drum set for every show? Or do they rent guitars and other instruments too? I'm guessing that must be somewhat of a drag for them as musicians, having to deal with the inconsistencies of gear that may differ from show to show, even as professionals who are used to it.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Debbie KL on September 05, 2019, 11:29:05 AM
It's interesting to watch Mike's band balloon in size considering his stated aversion to a larger band during C50. He noted there were too many members on stage competing for parts. This from the guy who now has three keyboardists on stage (and/or three guitarists) in addition to a non-vocalist bassist and a sax player. Plus Stamos when he shows up.

Ironic and contradictory, right? Not just the C50 reasoning, but when his book came out there were people close to Mike and his book praising his financial acumen, and how he likes to run a "lean n' mean" touring operation (that's what was said...), going as far as to point out how Mike even rents his backline of amps and other assorted stage gear so they don't need to lug it around, not to mention the smaller band setup Mike was running in the years before and after C50. And I'm assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that pointing out and praising Mike's "lean n' mean" operation and stage setup was being offered as a contrast to both C50 AND Brian's stage band with all those musicians on stage.

It's funny how things change. Wonder if ticket sales and return numbers on some recent tours had an effect on Mike's adding that many more musicians to his stage and overall crew.

I really admire all of you who keep fighting this fight. (I'm not being sarcastic here) - Does it really matter anymore? I love reading the words of people like Craigand Billy who have expertise when they comment. I know others do, as well.

I don't know Mike's shows, but the videos in the clips seem to indicate that he relies on endless videos to fill in for what he doesn't sing, and the crowds love it.

Brian goes out with his band and his compositions. He sings when he feels like it, and he knows he has a great band who'll fill the gaps when he wants to just listen to what he created with the best band ever, and he could hire them easily because they've been his own for so many years. No complaints here.

Different people care about different things. Many of Mike's audiences in particular (they know the BBs' name and not much more) enjoy what he does, including his standing in front of old videos.

Brian's more audio smart followers love to hear his band, the deep cuts and hope for Brian having a good night.

What I'm curious about is, what are fans expecting?

We know their ages and their history. Al and Blondie still have their chops. Brian has perfect pitch, so when he wants to sing well, he normally does. Some less committed band members fill in for both or either bands, but they're recognized as having talent. I think people love the coherence and devotion of Brian's band to his music. That's not what Mike is about. He's made it clear that the license to the name was to be a money-maker.

We haven't had a lot of stupid lawsuits from Mike over that past few years. Maybe we should just hope for the best. I know, I know! It may be inevitable that it will get ugly again. Let's just enjoy this respite from fans being used by some to tear Brian down and saying he should retire, no matter what he wanted, by people who had something to gain. I think one of the biggest influencers isn't in the mix these day, so that probably helps.

I don't know if Brian's fans were ever influenced against Mike by people in power with Brian, but it seems unlikely.  Certainly I was never asked to tear anyone down, or to build Brian up), but I can't speak for all. If the negative types against Brian with sad little egos are still looking for a backstage pass (by attacks on Brian on the ML side, or trying to kiss up to Brian's band) are still at it, I don't think anyone is listening anymore. If they get backstage before the band gets on the bus to leave, how nice for them.

Oh dear, in my usual afterthought I just realized that some genuine friends of my own and with Brian's band may think that they are being referenced here. Definitely, not! In fact, I'm not certain I know anyone in the US who might qualify. I'm glad that these people with their own talents are always there to support the band.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 05, 2019, 11:40:19 AM
It's interesting to watch Mike's band balloon in size considering his stated aversion to a larger band during C50. He noted there were too many members on stage competing for parts. This from the guy who now has three keyboardists on stage (and/or three guitarists) in addition to a non-vocalist bassist and a sax player. Plus Stamos when he shows up.

Well, to be fair, Mike's band has only grown from 7 (including 2 principals) to 9. The C50 tour started with 15 guys (down to 14 when Nicky had to drop out), including 5 principals. Plus, I'm sure Mike's backline crew is still smaller than Brian's. And, as stated, Mike's band usually plays with rented gear, so right there you save a ton on transportation costs. All said, I doubt Mike's touring expenses come anywhere near Brian's, even now with the addition of two more band members.


In terms of rented gear, does this just mean they rent amps and a drum set for every show? Or do they rent guitars and other instruments too? I'm guessing that must be somewhat of a drag for them as musicians, having to deal with the inconsistencies of gear that may differ from show to show, even as professionals who are used to it.

From what I've heard, they rent most everything *except* the guitars (and presumably some outboard gear guys like Totten might use). And yes, depending on the musician, it would be a drag to not be able to have your own rig (at least your amp) with you.

That being said, Mike has always run a streamlined operation and I have no doubt there is a robust, well-written tour rider that dictates precisely which makes and models of amps and other gear should be included. So it's not like Totten shows up and it's some random amp. I'm sure if he wants a Fender Twin Reverb of a certain wattage or whatever, that is what's in the tour rider.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 05, 2019, 11:52:31 AM

Well, to be fair, Mike's band has only grown from 7 (including 2 principals) to 9. The C50 tour started with 15 guys (down to 14 when Nicky had to drop out), including 5 principals. Plus, I'm sure Mike's backline crew is still smaller than Brian's. And, as stated, Mike's band usually plays with rented gear, so right there you save a ton on transportation costs. All said, I doubt Mike's touring expenses come anywhere near Brian's, even now with the addition of two more band members.


I was looking, in this instance, mainly at band size rather than overhead cost. I'm sure, even with more musicians, Mike's tour has a cheaper overhead than either Brian's tour or C50.

But, in comparing the bands, the way I look at it, on the musician side, C50 was essentially 11 (and then 10) musicians, as David Marks was the only musician contributing substantially to the musical bed at those shows. Bruce is a fine keyboard player, and Al a fine (and underrated) guitarist, and Brian is fully capable of playing great piano as well. But none of them were an integral part of the musical bed.

So Mike used to essentially have *five* backing musicians, while C50 had 9 to 11 (depending on how you count them). Mike has now upped the backing member count to *seven*. That's pretty substantial.

But in a more general sense, both in contemporaneous and later interviews (and his book), as well as speaking to folks who spoke to Mike during the tour, there was a definite sense that Mike felt the C50 band was much larger than needed, and preferred his scaled back operation. In particular, Mike only sporadically ever added a sax/woodwind player to his band post-1998/post-Richie Cannata. I think Joel Peskin was there on occasion, and perhaps someone else. But then all of a sudden, in 2016, he just full-on added Leago as a full-time sax/woodwind player. He then poached Eichenberger from Brian's band despite already having two (and arguably three) guys in his band that could do falsetto/high parts, and then when Eichenberger took off, he only brought back Randell Kirsch for a few fill-in gigs and ultimately ended up replacing Eichenberger with *two* members in Christian Love and Hubacher (Christian Love may have been back before Eichenberger left, I'm not sure).

I think the main point I'm getting at is that, much like the C50 video screen, a larger and more versatile backing band is something Mike seemed to scoff at for C50, but eventually adopted himself to some degree. I think he added Leago in 2016 in part to fill out the sound on the "Pet Sounds" tracks he was doing.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: UEF on September 05, 2019, 12:56:47 PM
It's interesting to watch Mike's band balloon in size considering his stated aversion to a larger band during C50. He noted there were too many members on stage competing for parts. This from the guy who now has three keyboardists on stage (and/or three guitarists) in addition to a non-vocalist bassist and a sax player. Plus Stamos when he shows up.

If you look at some of the C50 videos there's about 7 guitarists - way over the top!
Although I think Al's guitar goes into the same fader as Bruce's keyboard - all at zero. Ditto Brian's occasionally-played bass.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 05, 2019, 01:54:10 PM
It's interesting to watch Mike's band balloon in size considering his stated aversion to a larger band during C50. He noted there were too many members on stage competing for parts. This from the guy who now has three keyboardists on stage (and/or three guitarists) in addition to a non-vocalist bassist and a sax player. Plus Stamos when he shows up.

If you look at some of the C50 videos there's about 7 guitarists - way over the top!
Although I think Al's guitar goes into the same fader as Bruce's keyboard - all at zero. Ditto Brian's occasionally-played bass.

Nah, there was nothing over the top about the C50 band. Sure, that contingent isn’t needed to perform “409”, but it is needed to perform later era material. Just like when you have a sax player. They aren’t needed on every song, but they’re there for a reason. If ever there was a tour that shouldn’t cheap out because every person on stage isn’t needed on every single song, it would be that tour.

By my count, there were only six on guitar at max: Al, David, Foskett, Totten, Probyn, and Nicky. That was down to five when Nicky left the tour.

You can’t even really count Al and David towards the “needed musicians” count, as the five principal members were on that tour because they were the five principal members. Foskett was there mostly as Brian’s right hand man, and to do falsetto parts. It was really only three main integral guitarists: Totten, Probyn, and Nicky. And Nicky was gone less than half way into the tour.

I'm not saying the tour would have imploded if one or two members had been dropped; clearly part of the deal was to essentially keep Brian's band around him as a comfort and cushion. But all of the backing musicians from both bands added to that tour. The only musician spots that were *sometimes* not adding much to the show were Brian's piano, Bruce's keyboard, and maybe Al's guitar.

If having the large band is part of the deal to have Brian Wilson on that tour, then you make it happen.

I always contended, as a fan, I wouldn't have had any problem if the guys had actually tried to compromise to make another tour happen and wheel and deal and maybe shave a few members from the tour. But I never once felt there was anything detrimental to the show having that band on stage.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on September 05, 2019, 02:02:09 PM
UEF, I disagree.

Al was often audible on Come Go With Me and Sail On Sailor to name a few, but I think he was audible the whole time, just buried in the mix. With Bruce its a bit more complicated, it seems like he's miming often, but I've been told by Scott Totten himself that Bruce's keyboard "is on the whole time" and he does play some important parts. I think Bruce and Al obviously coast instrumentally, and even more so during C50 with the huge lineup of musicians, but I highly doubt they're completely inaudible the entire show. I've seen them both live and can distinctly remember hearing them. Al throughout each show I saw him. Bruce during Hawaii, Disney Girls, Don't Worry Baby, Good Vibrations, Darlin, and some others when I've seen Mike's group through the years.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 05, 2019, 02:07:16 PM
Brian, Bruce, and Al are all good musicians, and they're all playing during shows. How heavily they're in the "house mix" varies from tour to tour and song to song.

Sometimes they simply stop playing and only sing; those instances are obvious.

At other times, they're kind of there in the background and, as Bruce once said about his keyboard during shows, you only really notice it if it drops out of the mix completely.

In any event, to say Bruce's keyboard hasn't been an integral element to live shows for decades isn't to denigrate his musicianship. It's simply an observation. I think all five of the BBs could have just manned mics and not played at all on C50 if they had wanted. They all also could have played prominently.

The point is that everybody on that tour was nailing it. It wasn't rote like 90s shows. Everybody propped up everybody else where needed. It was amazing, and it will always simultaneously be remembered as a great tour, and also a blight on the band's late era story because some members stupidly threw it away to go back to being a high-end Motown oldies show instead of an arena band.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on September 05, 2019, 07:32:56 PM
Wow, that is a bit confusing. So now Bonfilgio is out and they have some other random guy, now on keyboards? They need three keyboardists? I always thought Totten could do a resonable falsetto.

If Bonfiglio is out to go back to Brian's band, it's weird they had Kirsch in just for two gigs with Brian? Not to mention, why wouldn't Mike just have Randell Kirsch come back and sub in again in *his* band? I guess I would normally wonder if that would be awkward if the speculation/indications were correct that Kirsch got elbowed out of the band to make room for Eichenberger back in 2015. But I recall that when Eichenberger left again a year or two after that, they had Kirsch back for at least a few gigs until they got a new bass player (which I think is still that Hubacher guy).

It's weird how Mike is now choosing to balloon his band more. It appears Hubacher rarely if ever sings, so I wonder why a couple years ago Mike chose to replace Eichenberger (who sang and played bass) with *two* members, one who sings (Christian Love) and one who doesn't (Hubacher)

For the life of me I couldn't figure out who was on the keyboards at the Puyallup show 9/2 (to Mike's direct left, with Bruce being at Mike's direct right). After some digging I figured out it was Matthew Jordan (https://matthewjordan.com/). Sounds like he did some shows with them in August, in place of Bonfiglio. Not sure if Bonfiglio is returning or if Jordan is filling in until someone else returns (Eichenberger?)
Thank you for the link. I am officially a fan of this guy now. I thought his falsetto leads were excellent.

Matt Jordan is scheduled to appear with M&B the next couple of months until Ike's return.

And I have no idea who Ike is.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on September 05, 2019, 09:49:51 PM
Brian Eichenberger, who was briefly in Brian’s band (having replaced someone who was even briefer in the band) and then joined M&B


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Debbie KL on September 06, 2019, 01:45:25 PM
Brian Eichenberger, who was briefly in Brian’s band (having replaced someone who was even briefer in the band) and then joined M&B

Yeah, I think he may regret some of his past decisions, but I really don't know what's happening in his career these days.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on September 06, 2019, 02:01:34 PM
I’ve been trying to remember whom he replaced in Brian’s band for s while now. I know whomever it was only did a few shows


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 06, 2019, 02:20:18 PM
I’ve been trying to remember whom he replaced in Brian’s band for s while now. I know whomever it was only did a few shows

I think the sequence of events was as follows:

- Foskett was gone after the late 2013 shows. When precisely he was gone versus when he ended up signing on with Mike's band isn't too clear. What we do know is that a replacement for Foskett wasn't mentioned until well into 2014, possibly after Foskett joined Mike's band.

- Foskett was first replaced by Matt Jardine. Matt did a few gigs with Brian's band (including a few July 2014 UK gigs, where Al also attended instead of doing that infamous Jones Beach gig with Mike's band).

- Matt then was gone. Whether temporary or permanent at that moment in time, I don't know. The first temp fill-in for Matt was Chad Odhner from the Fendertones. As I recall, he only did one or two gigs in 2014, and it was pretty clear he was both a *last minute* fill-in (suggesting Matt had to miss shows on short notice perhaps?) and almost certainly always a temp fill in.

- After a gig or two, Brian Eichenberger came on, filling Odhner/Matt Jardine's spot. He did the rest of the scattered 2014 tour dates that Brian Wilson had scheduled.

- Matt Jardine did *join* Eichenberger for the Las Vegas PBS taping on December 12, 2014.

- Eichenberger continued into 2015 with Brian's band doing at least one or two TV shows to promote NPP.

- Then, seemingly out of the blue, Mike Love announced on Facebook that Randell Kirsch was leaving his band and the replacement was Eichenberger. This certainly made it appear (to me anyway, and many other fans) that Mike actively poached Eichenberger from Brian's band, and sent Kirsch packing as a result.

- Very shortly after that (the same day or within a few days?), Brian Wilson announced that Matt Jardine was rejoining his band.

Since that time, Matt Jardine has been mostly full-time with Brian's band. It's clear from a variety of social media/online postings and whatnot that Matt works hard to balance family time and being out on tour, and so on occasion he does take time off. One such instance was last year's XMas gigs, where Rob Bonfiglio filled in for Matt.

Meanwhile, in Mike's band, Eichenberger replaced Kirsche on bass/vocals in 2015 (after Foskett replaced Christian Love in 2014), but within about two years or so, around early 2017, Eichenberger was back out for the birth of his child, and it seems at that point, or around that point, Mike brought back Christian Love and also then needed a bass player replacement. Randell Kirsch came back and did a few gigs on bass at that point, but the spot was quickly filled full-time by (mostly) non-vocalist bass player Keith Hubacher.

That lineup was intact for about two years, and since around the beginning of 2019, Foskett has been out on leave and his apparent temporary replacement was Brian Eichenberger, this time coming back on guitar instead of bass. It seems Eichenberger has had a similar thing going on as Matt Jardine as far as trying to balance family time and being out on tour, and thus Eichenberger has gone off the road several times, replaced by Rob Bonfiglio and later this Matthew Jordan guy. Eichenberger's absence has been described as "paternity leave", suggesting he will be back.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 06, 2019, 02:43:14 PM
It's interesting that, typically, touring band's like Mike's especially, and to some degree Brian's, typically want to run a streamlined operation and seek out commitments from band members for set periods of time. I would imagine, in the past, generally speaking, if Mike Love approached you to join his band and you told him you'd need a number of breaks during the year to leave the road, he'd typically look elsewhere.

But apparently top-tier falsetto/high voice singer/musicians who can pull of all those Brian Wilson parts are in some kind of short supply, so we're seeing the inordinately large amount of (literal) musical chairs this year with both bands.

It appears maybe Mike's band might be hitting a few tiny bumps in the road as they choose to seek out new temps/fill-ins rather than calling up old associates like Kirsch, Farmer, Baker, Bardowell, etc. There are easily over a dozen players/singers in the BB-offshoot-cover band orb that they could be calling up, especially for temp fill-in gigs. I think Mike's main struggle at the moment is filling the falsetto spot. For a while he had two fully capable guys in Foskett and Eichenberger, and with both gone, and with Bonfiglio appearing to lean more into going back to Brian's band, Mike has few easy choices apparently. He's not calling back Baker or Kirsch (not calling back Kirsch is especially odd considering Kirsch already *has* come back for some gigs since being gone in 2015), and he's not apparently trying to lean on Totten to do more falsetto parts (which would then free him up to a much wider array of auxiliary musicians who could just fill in on rhythm guitar or keyboards, like Billy Hinsche or Chris Farmer or Phil Bardowell or even friggin' Ed Carter or Billy Hinsche). I think something else at play,and I'm just guessing, might be that Mike seems to prefer to add relatively younger players to his band. I have plenty of theories for why that is (for another time), some more obvious than others. But between possibly burned bridges with some ex-band members, and seeking out younger members, that would then limit that pool of players to work from.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Sorry Entertainer ♯♫♩🐇 on September 06, 2019, 05:09:15 PM
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The first temp fill-in for Matt was Chad Odhner from the Fendertones.

Yeah, I don't remember that name, but I do remember it being from the Fendertones, and not being too impressed.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Jim V. on September 06, 2019, 05:17:28 PM
I think something else at play,and I'm just guessing, might be that Mike seems to prefer to add relatively younger players to his band. I have plenty of theories for why that is (for another time)

Okay, I'll bite. Why do you think this is?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RJM on September 06, 2019, 05:45:42 PM
Brian Eichenberger, who was briefly in Brian’s band (having replaced someone who was even briefer in the band) and then joined M&B

Yeah, I think he may regret some of his past decisions, but I really don't know what's happening in his career these days.

Ike? Still touring with Mike and Bruce when he isn’t tending to his family.  It should be noted that Ike gave up a full time gig with the Four Freshmen to join Brian at a time when Brian wasn’t doing that much touring.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Eric Aniversario on September 08, 2019, 01:45:53 AM
Regarding Matthew Jordan, I looked at his website, which also linked to his Instagram, and there is a video of him singing Don't Worry Baby, and Jeff Foskett is on guitar but not singing. In the post, Matthew says that he'll be filling in for all of September and October with Mike's band.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on September 08, 2019, 10:58:03 AM
It's interesting to watch Mike's band balloon in size considering his stated aversion to a larger band during C50. He noted there were too many members on stage competing for parts. This from the guy who now has three keyboardists on stage (and/or three guitarists) in addition to a non-vocalist bassist and a sax player. Plus Stamos when he shows up.

Well, to be fair, Mike's band has only grown from 7 (including 2 principals) to 9. The C50 tour started with 15 guys (down to 14 when Nicky had to drop out), including 5 principals. Plus, I'm sure Mike's backline crew is still smaller than Brian's. And, as stated, Mike's band usually plays with rented gear, so right there you save a ton on transportation costs. All said, I doubt Mike's touring expenses come anywhere near Brian's, even now with the addition of two more band members.


Excellent point


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on September 08, 2019, 11:26:50 AM
I don't think C50 was over the top. Think about how many musicians BW actually had in those sessions, to get his famous textured sound!

Get this. When I saw The BBs in August at Ravinia, this was the lineup...

Mike- Vocals, (Tambourine I guess  :lol)
Bruce- Vocals, Keys (I couldn't pick it out most of the night, but there were definite points I could, I was paying attention closely during songs that Totten told me plays on)
Stamos- Vocals, Drums, Guitar (possibly inaudible, I noticed him playing some odd chords)
Christian- Vocals, Guitar
Jeff- Guitar
Scott- Vocals, Guitar, Percussion
Ike- Vocals, Guitar
John- Vocals, Drums
Keith- Bass, some Vocals
Tim- Keys
Randy- Woodwinds, Percussion, etc...

The sound was HUUUGE. And for BBs music, it was perfect. Songs like California Sun, Little Deuce Coupe, Rockaway Beach, Fun Fun Fun, just exploded with a wall of sound. It was quite a thrill. I've been seeing Mike's band since 2014, and by this point it felt like I was watching a rock orchestra, not dissimilar from C50, which I was unable to see in person. Now, that's a lot of people on stage, but it was totally awesome, almost a "who's who" of BBs music, having Jeff return as a special guest was a pleasant surprise. His guitar playing adds a level of authenticity, he's just got those songs under his fingers, he strums with a great technique. Scott is obviously a great guitarist, and he was on fire, his solo on Pisces Brothers rocked. My point is, with BBs music, there's no such thing as too many layers, in a live setting (take what I say with a grain of salt here).  Having four (five if Stamos was audible) guitars chugging away made it really sound like The Beach Boys. That's why Brian would have multiple guitarists in the studio, or double via overdub, etc...

Now, it can be done with fewer musicians, if they know what they're doing. I saw Dean Torrence perform with a band that only consisted of ONE guitarist, Phillip B who you'll remember from Mike's band, but he's such a fantastic, intuitive guitarist, and Farmer's arrangements (based on Berry's and Wilson's obviously) were perfect, to the point where they had their own great 'wall of sound' too.

I guess the criticism comes from the fact that Mike seemed against the idea during and immediately after C50. First of all, C50 was a much more expensive operation that Mike's BBs ever have been or will be. Secondly, C50 was seven years ago now. Perhaps Mike (and/or Scott!) has looked at Brian's band, a "rock orchestra" as I called it, and decided that would better serve his group as well. Adding Randy on Sax made the band infinitely better. At the end of the day though, if the band sounds better , with more musicians on stage, what's the issue?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 09, 2019, 08:20:09 AM
Brian Eichenberger, who was briefly in Brian’s band (having replaced someone who was even briefer in the band) and then joined M&B

Yeah, I think he may regret some of his past decisions, but I really don't know what's happening in his career these days.

Ike? Still touring with Mike and Bruce when he isn’t tending to his family.  It should be noted that Ike gave up a full time gig with the Four Freshmen to join Brian at a time when Brian wasn’t doing that much touring.

I don't know any of the machinations behind the scenes of the current Four Freshman touring operation, but Brian's 2014 tour schedule would have been well known to anybody considering joining. 2014 was a very light touring year for Brian (one of many possible reasons I always figured Foskett wasn't too torn up about not being in Brian's band joining Mike's in 2014; there was a lot more steady work at that time with Mike's band).

Other guys in Brian's band moonlight with other side bands and/or have in the past, including "California Surf, Inc." which at various points has has included Probyn and Matt Jardine.

I'm not sure how rigorous the Four Freshman schedule was, but Eichenberger wouldn't have been trading the Four Freshman gig for very many Brian shows. Plus, I don't think Brian has typically kept most of his musicians on retainer, as especially prior to 2015/2016, he wasn't touring all year. Are we sure Eichenberger chose to quit the Four Freshman specifically and solely to be in Brian's band? Or were other factors at play? Was it a case of trying to go a bit more "big time"? Was he more interested in being a rock/pop band than doing Four Freshman style shows?

Brian did 12 gigs in 2014, and not even really 12 full gigs, and Eichenberger didn't even do all of *those* gigs. Brian did that Gibson tradeshow sort of gig in January (in between Foskett and Matt Jardine), then he did two July UK shows with Matt Jardine, did one August show, then one September show with Odhner filling in, and then finished out the year with *seven* scattered shows throughout the rest of the year with Eichenberger (one of which also included Matt Jardine). And only arguably four of five of those seven shows were full-length, regular shows. Two of them were short Bridge School Benefit sets, one was the PBS taping, and one was a benefit gig.

If Eichenberger really left his other gig to do seven shows with Brian Wilson (with no 2015 shows in the offing until June), I'd say he'd have to own that decision. I'm guessing other unknown factors were at play.

Whatever happened, it ended up working out presumably well enough for him, as it it obviously quickly got him noticed enough to be poached from Brian's band for Mike's band. And it seems subsequently that he's been willing to leave the Mike gig as well.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 12, 2019, 12:30:49 AM
Actually pretty cool to be fair. Imagine your local bar/ restaurant and you get this...

https://youtu.be/E9Pp5hGrAH4

https://youtu.be/jpUWMpfzBLg


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: chewy on September 12, 2019, 12:53:13 AM
sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on September 12, 2019, 08:25:20 AM
Actually pretty cool to be fair. Imagine your local bar/ restaurant and you get this...

https://youtu.be/E9Pp5hGrAH4

https://youtu.be/jpUWMpfzBLg

That's great! Love it.

Also fun to hear their typical setlist order.... or, dare I say, the "formula"... effed around with a bit. 



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: rab2591 on September 12, 2019, 09:18:43 AM
Actually pretty cool to be fair. Imagine your local bar/ restaurant and you get this...

https://youtu.be/E9Pp5hGrAH4

https://youtu.be/jpUWMpfzBLg

Bruce sounds fantastic! Really cool to see them in a different environment. Thanks for sharing!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RJM on September 12, 2019, 11:38:18 AM
Actually pretty cool to be fair. Imagine your local bar/ restaurant and you get this...

https://youtu.be/E9Pp5hGrAH4

https://youtu.be/jpUWMpfzBLg

Bruce sounds fantastic! Really cool to see them in a different environment. Thanks for sharing!

That makes me wish they would do more intimate venues. I’ve seen Brian and his band do Pet Sounds and SMiLE in clubs. No reason why Mike and Bruce couldn’t.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on September 12, 2019, 12:01:54 PM
Totally makes me wish M&B would do Al's "Storyteller" type shows, with their own spin of course.

These recent clips show it totally could be done- a scaled down version of The Beach Boys band, playing variations of BBs hits and M&B's favorites, with Mike and Bruce MCing in a more casual way than we're used to. Man, these clips were a blast to watch! Everyone was on fire! I wish Bruce would've strapped on a bass or gotten behind the keys to show off his insane instrumental chops, which we only really get to hear on Disney Girls these days.


I know I'm just dreaming now, but imagine a scenario where The BBs reunited for a C60 type event (possibly a farewell for Bri?) and played BEACH BOYS shows as a full unit with as many core members as possible, large "rock orchestra" backing band BW & Mike have been using, big production, etc... Then Mike could satisfy his "smaller market" needs with M&B "America's Band" or whatever type shows, Al could continue to do his storyteller shows, etc.... That would be a great scenario for fans in my opinion. But as we all know, internal politics and family/personal issues, which we will never have a grasp on without personal relationships, likely will prevent such a thing from happening


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: thatjacob on September 13, 2019, 12:44:06 PM
There's currently a promotion for $25 tickets for their Louisville show in February if you use the code "SUM2019". That price includes fees and everything.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: roffels on September 20, 2019, 04:22:38 PM
This isn't on the Beach Boys site yet but they're playing Treasure Island in Minnesota November 15th.
https://www.ticasino.com/live-entertainment/the-beach-boys/


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on September 21, 2019, 12:24:02 PM
Just got a notice that Sammy Hagar's High Tide Beach Party, scheduled for next weekend in Huntington Beach, CA, with an appearance by Mike and Bruce on the 28th, has been cancelled.

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CANCELLATION NOTICE: Due to being denied the necessary permit submitted on 12-26-18 from California State Parks the High Tide Beach Party & Car Show scheduled for September 28 & 29, has been canceled.

Unfortunately, there is no possibility to relocate the event.

All ticket holders will automatically receive a refund through official ticketing outlets Front Gate Tickets and GroupOn.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: twentytwenty on September 22, 2019, 03:17:33 PM
Actually pretty cool to be fair. Imagine your local bar/ restaurant and you get this...

https://youtu.be/E9Pp5hGrAH4

https://youtu.be/jpUWMpfzBLg

Bruce sounds fantastic! Really cool to see them in a different environment. Thanks for sharing!

IKR!! I almost lost my jaw when he started the falsetto on fun fun fun, like how the hell is he managing that in his age?
And these clips only makes me more furious that they don’t give him more spotlight at the regular shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 23, 2019, 07:09:16 AM
IKR!! I almost lost my jaw when he started the falsetto on fun fun fun, like how the hell is he managing that in his age?
And these clips only makes me more furious that they don’t give him more spotlight at the regular shows.

Although every person has a different thing going on, I would guess that one factor is that if someone has some remnants of an old falsetto still kicking around, where their voice can still technically hit some high notes in some cases, it's easier to just kind of go high and shoot for an "oooooooooo" over a few notes. I'd wager Bruce would have a harder time, say, singing the full "Don't Worry Baby" in falsetto for instance.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: “Big Daddy” on October 11, 2019, 06:23:29 AM
Has Jeff been supporting the Todd Rundgren/Micky Dolenz/Christopher Cross/etc. White Album tour shows? Think I spot him in this pic here. https://twitter.com/itsmrcross/status/1182632450599591937


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on October 11, 2019, 11:38:41 AM
Looks like him for sure. Check my post under the Jeff Foskett thread however. I think the reason for his absence is explained.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on October 11, 2019, 08:30:55 PM
Yeah, that does look a hell of a lot like Jeff, but with us all being so analytical about everything BBs related, you'd think someone would've noticed by now.......


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: marcella27 on October 11, 2019, 09:10:01 PM
Actually pretty cool to be fair. Imagine your local bar/ restaurant and you get this...

https://youtu.be/E9Pp5hGrAH4

https://youtu.be/jpUWMpfzBLg

Bruce sounds fantastic! Really cool to see them in a different environment. Thanks for sharing!

IKR!! I almost lost my jaw when he started the falsetto on fun fun fun, like how the hell is he managing that in his age?
And these clips only makes me more furious that they don’t give him more spotlight at the regular shows.

What is going on?!  That falsetto is so high!  Has Bruce been drinking from the same fountain of youth as Al Jardine?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on October 11, 2019, 09:33:26 PM
Actually pretty cool to be fair. Imagine your local bar/ restaurant and you get this...

https://youtu.be/E9Pp5hGrAH4

https://youtu.be/jpUWMpfzBLg

Bruce sounds fantastic! Really cool to see them in a different environment. Thanks for sharing!

IKR!! I almost lost my jaw when he started the falsetto on fun fun fun, like how the hell is he managing that in his age?
And these clips only makes me more furious that they don’t give him more spotlight at the regular shows.

What is going on?!  That falsetto is so high!  Has Bruce been drinking from the same fountain of youth as Al Jardine?

Not with any regularity! I'll give credit where it's due; he nails it here. But that is NOT always the case!