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Title: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 14, 2018, 07:57:41 AM
I looked through the 4 pages of the M&B 2018 tour thread, but saw very little info about dates, reviews etc. So I figured, why not start another. The guys who like to bash Mike can have at it on that thread, and this one can provide info on the tour itself.

Some of the announced dates

Feb. 14 — Sarasota, FL (Van Wezel Performing Arts Hall)
Feb. 15 — Fort Pierce, FL (Sunrise Theatre)
Feb. 16 — West Palm Beach, FL (Kravis Center for the Performing Arts)
Feb. 18 — Naples, FL (Hayes Hall, Naples Museum of Art)
Feb. 24 — Dallas, TX (Mesquite Arena, Mesquite ISD Education Foundation Annual Gala)
Feb. 28 — Modesto, CA (Gallo Center for the Arts)
 
March 1 — Visalia, CA (Fox Theatre)
March 3 — Thousand Oaks, CA (Fred Kavli Theater)
March 4 — Palm Desert, CA (McCallum Theatre, 2 shows, 3 p.m. and 7 p.m
March 9 — St. Joseph, MO (Missouri Theater)
March 11 — Chandler, AZ (Ostrich Festival, Tumbleweed Park, Main Stage)
March 17 — Westbury, NY (Theatre at Westbury)
March 18 — Kingston, NY (Ulster Performing Arts Center)
March 20 — Collingswood, NJ (Scottish Rite Auditorium)
March 21 — Red Bank, NJ (Count Basie Theatre)
March 22 — Shippensburg, PA (Luhrs Center)
March 23 — Reading, PA (Santander Performing Arts Center)
March 24 — Wilkes-Barre, PA (F.M. Kirby Center for the Performing Arts)
 

[May 9 — Youngstown, OH (Stambaugh Auditorium)
May 10 — Wabash, IN (Honeywell Center)
May 11 — Holland, MI (Tulip Time Festival, Central Wesleyan Auditorium)
May 12 — Columbus, OH (Columbus Symphony Orchestra, Ohio Theatre)
May 13 — Louisville, KY (Kentucky Center)

May 25 - Springfield, IL, USA (Springfield Sliders Stadium)
May 26- Herrin, IL, USA (HerrinFesta Italiana
)
 


July 1 -San Rafael, CA,  (Marin County Fair)
July 13-14 -Fishers, IN, (Conner Prairie)
July 17-  Interlochen MI
July 18 - Sylvania,OH (Centennial Terrace)
July 19-  Detroit, MI (Freedom Hill)
Jul 20-Rama,ON (Casino Rama)
July 21 — Kemptville, ON, Canada (Kemptville College, Kemptville Live Music Festival)

July 22- Edmonton, ALTA, Canada (Edmonton Northlands)
July 25- Columbus,OH (Ohio State Fairgrounds), 7 pm
Jul 27-New Buffalo, MI, (Four Winds Casino)
Jul 29- Alton, IL., (Liberty Bank Amphitheatre)
 

Aug 2 -Fredericksburg, VA, (Marks & Harrison Amphitheater)
Aug 4-Lancaster, PA,  (American Music Theatre) 2 Shows
Aug. 3 - Selbyville, DE (Freeman Stage)
Aug 5 -  Bethel, NY (Bethel Woods Center)
Aug 6 - Canadaigua, NY (Constellation Brands-Marvin Sands Performing Arts Center)
Aug. 7 - Tioga Downs, NY
Aug 8 -Cohasset, MA, (South Shore Music Circus)
Aug 9-Hampton Beach, NH, (Hampton Beach Casino Ballroom)
Aug 10 -Hampton Beach, NH, (Hampton Beach Casino Ballroom)
Aug 11 -Hyannis, MA, (Cape Cod Melody Tent) 2 Shows
Aug. 12
— Webster, MA (Indian Ranch, 2 p.m.)
Aug. 14 - Bethlehem, PA (Event Center, 7 P.M.)
Aug 15 -Ridgefield, CT, (Ridgefield Playhouse)
Aug. 18 - Ocean Grove, NJ (Great Auditorium, 7 P.M.)
Aug. 20-21 — Ocean City, NJ (Ocean City Music Pier)
Aug. 22 — St. Paul, MN (Ordway Center for the Performing Arts)
Aug 25-  Franklin, WI, (Milwaukee County Sports Center)
Aug 26- Moline, IL. (Tax Slayer Center, 7 P.M.)
Aug 27- Minnesota State Fair

Sept. 1, San Pedro. (USS Iowa)

Sept. 15-Hutchinson KS (Kansas State Fair 7:30 P.M.)
Sept. 16-Saratoga CA (The Mountain Winery)
Sept.17-Modesto CA (Gallo Center For The Arts)
Sept.19-Bakersfield CA (Kern County Fair)
Sept. 20-Pomona, CA (LA County Fair)
Sept. 21-Santa Barbara, CA (The Granada Theatre)
Sept. 22-San Diego, CA (Humpreys by The Bay)
Sept. 28 - Minot, N.D.( Norsk Hostfest 7:30 P.M)
Sept. 30 - West Springfield, MA, (Eastern States Exposition

Oct. 4-Brandon, MS. (Brandon Ampitheatre)
Oct.5-Biloxi, MS (Beau Rivage)
Oct.6-Biloxi, MS (Beau Rivage)


Nov. 13-Huntsville, Ala. –(Mark C. Smith Concert Hall at the VBC)
Nov.14, 15- Nashville TN (Ryman)
Nov. 16- Chatanooga, TN (Tivoli Theatre)
Nov. 17- Greenville, TN (Niswanger Performing Arts Center)
Nov.18-Knoxville, TN (Tennessee Theatre)
Nov. 19- Schuster Permorming Arts Center)

Dec. 18- Wilmington, NC (Wilson Center) 7:30


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on February 14, 2018, 08:01:02 AM
Thanks for the thread!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 14, 2018, 08:08:00 AM
Im assuming more July and August dates will be added. 

Perhaps, Mike is lessening his workload a bit in 2018?  In honestly, thats probably overdue especially when you consider the amount of shows their peers, such as McCartney, Ringo, The Stones, The Who, Roger Waters do these days. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 14, 2018, 08:12:21 AM
Im assuming more July and August dates will be added. 

Perhaps, Mike is lessening his workload a bit in 2018?  In honestly, thats probably overdue especially when you consider the amount of shows their peers, such as McCartney, Ringo, The Stones, The Who, Roger Waters do these days. 

I gotta assume a lot more dates will be added. I can't see him backing off unless physically unable to tour.
Looking at this years 'official' photo, it looks like Mike has slimmed down a bit. But maybe that's photoshop, lol.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 14, 2018, 09:18:35 AM
Historically on this board, there has always been little interest in Mike's tour dates (certainly for a tour that tours all year, every year).

One can obviously interpret that as something that is more to do with this board, or more to do with the quality and/or ubiquitous nature of Mike's never-ending touring. I'd say it's mostly the latter.

Also, if one has followed Mike's tour and scheduling habits over the years, they will have found that Mike never really "announces" a tour. He never unveils a tour schedule. It just sort of continually exists and is updated on an ongoing basis. It takes a few months into the year for summer tour dates to fill out.

All of this is a result of over-extending the brand and never taking a break from touring. It would actually be a big deal, worth "announcing" a big tour, if Mike wasn't doing 150 shows per year, every year. There's no buzz factor. Mike's tour runs off of brand name recognition, pure momentum, and fluff pieces a week or two in advance in many of the markets he hits.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 14, 2018, 10:07:45 AM
Im assuming more July and August dates will be added. 

Perhaps, Mike is lessening his workload a bit in 2018?  In honestly, thats probably overdue especially when you consider the amount of shows their peers, such as McCartney, Ringo, The Stones, The Who, Roger Waters do these days. 

Most likely.   July and August are pretty bare right now. 

I wonder if there will be a theme.  I doubt Friends50.   

I gotta assume a lot more dates will be added. I can't see him backing off unless physically unable to tour.
Looking at this years 'official' photo, it looks like Mike has slimmed down a bit. But maybe that's photoshop, lol.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 14, 2018, 10:14:52 AM
Historically on this board, there has always been little interest in Mike's tour dates (certainly for a tour that tours all year, every year).

One can obviously interpret that as something that is more to do with this board, or more to do with the quality and/or ubiquitous nature of Mike's never-ending touring. I'd say it's mostly the latter.

Also, if one has followed Mike's tour and scheduling habits over the years, they will have found that Mike never really "announces" a tour. He never unveils a tour schedule. It just sort of continually exists and is updated on an ongoing basis. It takes a few months into the year for summer tour dates to fill out.

All of this is a result of over-extending the brand and never taking a break from touring. It would actually be a big deal, worth "announcing" a big tour, if Mike wasn't doing 150 shows per year, every year. There's no buzz factor. Mike's tour runs off of brand name recognition, pure momentum, and fluff pieces a week or two in advance in many of the markets he hits.

Lets be honest.  On this forum, it has a LOT to do with the former. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 14, 2018, 10:55:34 AM
And why would that be, exactly?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Rob Dean on February 14, 2018, 11:04:15 AM
Im assuming more July and August dates will be added. 

Perhaps, Mike is lessening his workload a bit in 2018?  In honestly, thats probably overdue especially when you consider the amount of shows their peers, such as McCartney, Ringo, The Stones, The Who, Roger Waters do these days. 

Peers ? Hey, they are all far too Chicken sh*t to get on a stage with The Beach Boys  ;-)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: oldsurferdude on February 14, 2018, 11:25:27 AM
And why would that be, exactly?

One reason could be that familiarity breeds contempt.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 14, 2018, 11:53:49 AM
Historically on this board, there has always been little interest in Mike's tour dates (certainly for a tour that tours all year, every year).

One can obviously interpret that as something that is more to do with this board, or more to do with the quality and/or ubiquitous nature of Mike's never-ending touring. I'd say it's mostly the latter.

Also, if one has followed Mike's tour and scheduling habits over the years, they will have found that Mike never really "announces" a tour. He never unveils a tour schedule. It just sort of continually exists and is updated on an ongoing basis. It takes a few months into the year for summer tour dates to fill out.

All of this is a result of over-extending the brand and never taking a break from touring. It would actually be a big deal, worth "announcing" a big tour, if Mike wasn't doing 150 shows per year, every year. There's no buzz factor. Mike's tour runs off of brand name recognition, pure momentum, and fluff pieces a week or two in advance in many of the markets he hits.

Lets be honest.  On this forum, it has a LOT to do with the former.  

The former is caused by the latter. There's a reason people don't care to follow his touring. Using the BB name, past years of sub-par shows, an antagonistic and insulting attitude towards his former bandmates, a show increasingly focused on backing members singing leads, and his dilution of the band due to excessive touring, are all causes of disinterest among many fans.

The audience Mike *does* have is often extremely casual. I know more about his band lineup, history, and member changes, etc. than most of the people that go to his shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 14, 2018, 12:48:21 PM
Historically on this board, there has always been little interest in Mike's tour dates (certainly for a tour that tours all year, every year).

One can obviously interpret that as something that is more to do with this board, or more to do with the quality and/or ubiquitous nature of Mike's never-ending touring. I'd say it's mostly the latter.

Also, if one has followed Mike's tour and scheduling habits over the years, they will have found that Mike never really "announces" a tour. He never unveils a tour schedule. It just sort of continually exists and is updated on an ongoing basis. It takes a few months into the year for summer tour dates to fill out.

All of this is a result of over-extending the brand and never taking a break from touring. It would actually be a big deal, worth "announcing" a big tour, if Mike wasn't doing 150 shows per year, every year. There's no buzz factor. Mike's tour runs off of brand name recognition, pure momentum, and fluff pieces a week or two in advance in many of the markets he hits.

Lets be honest.  On this forum, it has a LOT to do with the former. 

The former is caused by the latter. There's a reason people don't care to follow his touring. Using the BB name, past years of sub-par shows, an antagonist and insulting attitude towards his former bandmates, a show increasingly focused on backing members singing leads, and his dilution of the band die to excessive touring, are all causes of disinterest among many fans.

The audience Mike *does* have is often extremely casual. I know more about his band lineup, history, and member changes, etc. than most of the people that go to his shows.

The first paragraph sums up my feelings. I will defend Mike’s talent until the end of time, but how he treats people rubs me the wrong way, and some of the people whom he associates with I find odious (not referring to his band which is mostly excellent).


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on February 14, 2018, 01:22:19 PM
Im assuming more July and August dates will be added. 

Perhaps, Mike is lessening his workload a bit in 2018?  In honestly, thats probably overdue especially when you consider the amount of shows their peers, such as McCartney, Ringo, The Stones, The Who, Roger Waters do these days. 

I don't think they did any shows from December 10th through February 10th.  I'd have to check Bellagio, but I don't think they've taken off two consecutive months for quite some time. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Dave in KC on February 14, 2018, 05:01:22 PM
How would you like to be Mike doing shows in southern FLA through the next several days?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on February 14, 2018, 06:11:11 PM
How would you like to be Mike doing shows in southern FLA through the next several days?

Seeing that he's got more money than he'll ever need in this life, I'd say it would be a good gesture to donate his cut of the proceeds to the families that lost loved ones. but I'm not gonna hold my breath.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 14, 2018, 07:20:56 PM
If it were me, i would do it, but that’s one of the differences between him and i


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on February 14, 2018, 07:35:06 PM
While I too think that more dates will be coming, it is unusual for the summer in particular to be so light right now. It's also unusual for them to take over two full months off from December into February. I can't help but wonder if Bruce's health is a factor here. I'm not trying to be rude, he does not look healthy at all.

Another possibility could be that Mike and Bruce are jumping on this package tour craze that is really sweeping the classic rock/oldies circuit this year. There are a LOT of package tours this summer...more than usual...and they're pretty much all bands that are lacking key members. Mike and Bruce would fit right in. Even though they typically don't "announce" a tour, something like this would probably yield an announcement...and would explain why there's a big block of the summer still open.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 15, 2018, 06:45:28 AM
I don't know what Mike's tour plans are for this year, but again, it takes until several months into the year to fill out the summer tour schedule. You can even go back to the "Internet Wayback Machine" and look at things like the BBFC website and see that as of, say, February 2016, the summer 2016 tour schedule wasn't filled out.

No offense to Bruce, but I doubt his health figures heavily into Mike's tour schedule. If Bruce decided to leave the road (or was otherwise unable to tour), I doubt Mike would change what he's doing so long as *he* (Mike) is doing whatever he wants to do.

I could certainly envision Mike finally going at least a *little* lighter on the tour schedule, not even so much because he can't handle the work load (again, no offense, but the other guys in the band are doing most of the heavy lifting), but because the backing band can occasionally sound a big tired and ragged when they do like 14 shows in 15 days like they sometimes have done on recent tours, and also because I'd imagine maybe Mike actually wants to enjoy non-touring life at least a *little* more.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 15, 2018, 11:27:09 AM
The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Debbie KL on February 15, 2018, 11:46:11 AM
I don't know what Mike's tour plans are for this year, but again, it takes until several months into the year to fill out the summer tour schedule. You can even go back to the "Internet Wayback Machine" and look at things like the BBFC website and see that as of, say, February 2016, the summer 2016 tour schedule wasn't filled out.

No offense to Bruce, but I doubt his health figures heavily into Mike's tour schedule. If Bruce decided to leave the road (or was otherwise unable to tour), I doubt Mike would change what he's doing so long as *he* (Mike) is doing whatever he wants to do.

I could certainly envision Mike finally going at least a *little* lighter on the tour schedule, not even so much because he can't handle the work load (again, no offense, but the other guys in the band are doing most of the heavy lifting), but because the backing band can occasionally sound a big tired and ragged when they do like 14 shows in 15 days like they sometimes have done on recent tours, and also because I'd imagine maybe Mike actually wants to enjoy non-touring life at least a *little* more.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Mike need Bruce, or some other "original" BB to maintain the touring license?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on February 15, 2018, 12:17:03 PM
I don't think that applies any longer. Years ago, there was a clause that mandated a certain  number of Beach Boys appear at a show, may have even been at least 1 Wilson appear on stage. Could be wrong though.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 15, 2018, 12:26:33 PM
That’s kinda messed up. Let’s say mike gets strep throat and can’t sing. Is it still a Beach Boys show?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on February 15, 2018, 12:46:31 PM
Or he sings Unleash the Love...........

( isnt there an  American law that  ONE member must be an original ?)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 15, 2018, 12:48:37 PM
I don't think that applies any longer. Years ago, there was a clause that mandated a certain  number of Beach Boys appear at a show, may have even been at least 1 Wilson appear on stage. Could be wrong though.

I don't think that's the case as I believe the licensing agreement was drawn up after Carl's passing. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 15, 2018, 01:24:15 PM
While we're obviously not privy to the precise ins-and-outs of the licensing agreement, it appears that there is no longer any requirement for more than one Beach Boy on stage.

If I had to guess, I would guess the license would require Mike to be present (and even if it didn't, I HIGHLY doubt Mike would let a show go on without him).

But given Bruce's hand full of short absences in the post-1998 timeframe, it would appear there's no requirement for him or any second "core" member to be there.

There was a period of time after Carl's passing where all of this was a bit murky. I recall an interview with David Marks back soon after he left in 1999 where, as I recall, he implied one of the reasons he was brought on was to keep a certain core number of core/original members on stage. But this probably applied to his entrance into the band in 1997 prior to Carl's death.

Mike first had a non-exclusive license by July of 1998 or so. I don't know if there were any minimum member requirements at that time. But it appears that by the time he had the exclusive license in 1999, any requirement was no longer in place. Hence, David Marks leaving in July 1999 did not result in frantic calls to Al Jardine to recruit him back into the band.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Eric Aniversario on February 17, 2018, 02:19:34 AM
The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: JK on February 17, 2018, 02:37:30 AM
The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.

Most curiously, Brian is down as a comedy act at Bensalem PA on May 8th!

http://petsoundsforum.com/thread/2294/new-bw-show?page=1&scrollTo=57133


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 17, 2018, 09:30:42 AM
The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.

Most curiously, Brian is down as a comedy act at Bensalem PA on May 8th!

http://petsoundsforum.com/thread/2294/new-bw-show?page=1&scrollTo=57133

Maybe thwy've heard Brian's lighter joke. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 18, 2018, 11:03:44 AM
Historically on this board, there has always been little interest in Mike's tour dates (certainly for a tour that tours all year, every year).

One can obviously interpret that as something that is more to do with this board, or more to do with the quality and/or ubiquitous nature of Mike's never-ending touring. I'd say it's mostly the latter.

Also, if one has followed Mike's tour and scheduling habits over the years, they will have found that Mike never really "announces" a tour. He never unveils a tour schedule. It just sort of continually exists and is updated on an ongoing basis. It takes a few months into the year for summer tour dates to fill out.

All of this is a result of over-extending the brand and never taking a break from touring. It would actually be a big deal, worth "announcing" a big tour, if Mike wasn't doing 150 shows per year, every year. There's no buzz factor. Mike's tour runs off of brand name recognition, pure momentum, and fluff pieces a week or two in advance in many of the markets he hits.

Lets be honest.  On this forum, it has a LOT to do with the former. 

KDS - You never explained your answer above.

So how about it? Just another chance to take an unnecessary shot at this forum with nothing to back it up? Please explain.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 18, 2018, 12:22:22 PM
Historically on this board, there has always been little interest in Mike's tour dates (certainly for a tour that tours all year, every year).

One can obviously interpret that as something that is more to do with this board, or more to do with the quality and/or ubiquitous nature of Mike's never-ending touring. I'd say it's mostly the latter.

Also, if one has followed Mike's tour and scheduling habits over the years, they will have found that Mike never really "announces" a tour. He never unveils a tour schedule. It just sort of continually exists and is updated on an ongoing basis. It takes a few months into the year for summer tour dates to fill out.

All of this is a result of over-extending the brand and never taking a break from touring. It would actually be a big deal, worth "announcing" a big tour, if Mike wasn't doing 150 shows per year, every year. There's no buzz factor. Mike's tour runs off of brand name recognition, pure momentum, and fluff pieces a week or two in advance in many of the markets he hits.

Lets be honest.  On this forum, it has a LOT to do with the former. 

KDS - You never explained your answer above.

So how about it? Just another chance to take an unnecessary shot at this forum with nothing to back it up? Please explain.

You have to admit there's a heavy anti Mike bias.   


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 18, 2018, 12:33:47 PM
The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.

Just for Laughs is a pretty large scale event. And yes the focus in on comedy acts, but I think they have an outdoor 'compound' that probably has some food/drink/merchandise areas and an outdoor stage for music...though I'm not 100% on that.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 18, 2018, 12:40:57 PM
Historically on this board, there has always been little interest in Mike's tour dates (certainly for a tour that tours all year, every year).

One can obviously interpret that as something that is more to do with this board, or more to do with the quality and/or ubiquitous nature of Mike's never-ending touring. I'd say it's mostly the latter.

Also, if one has followed Mike's tour and scheduling habits over the years, they will have found that Mike never really "announces" a tour. He never unveils a tour schedule. It just sort of continually exists and is updated on an ongoing basis. It takes a few months into the year for summer tour dates to fill out.

All of this is a result of over-extending the brand and never taking a break from touring. It would actually be a big deal, worth "announcing" a big tour, if Mike wasn't doing 150 shows per year, every year. There's no buzz factor. Mike's tour runs off of brand name recognition, pure momentum, and fluff pieces a week or two in advance in many of the markets he hits.

Lets be honest.  On this forum, it has a LOT to do with the former.  

KDS - You never explained your answer above.

So how about it? Just another chance to take an unnecessary shot at this forum with nothing to back it up? Please explain.

You have to admit there's a heavy anti Mike bias.  

Compared to what or where else, KDS? I'm tired of these posts calling out or blaming this specific board and the people here for something that exists across the internet and has existed for decades, the overwhelming majority of it existing in reaction to what Mike actually does and says publicly.

Are there other forums where people are regularly posting reviews or commentary about Mike's live shows? There used to be one poster on the Britain board regularly posting gushing reviews of his live shows from the tents of the Cape Cod area to any random venue where he played, but even that seems to have stopped or at least slowed down.

And this "bias" you mention may just have as much to do with fans - yes, even longtime or diehard fans - reacting to what Mike actually does or says on a regular basis, rather than an inherent need to bash Mike or a bias you and others continue to cite. If fans can't react to what the guy does or says negatively without having it called a heavy bias on this or other outlets, you're looking for rose-colored glasses that might come free with a few buckets of whitewash and cheap paint rollers.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: rab2591 on February 18, 2018, 12:57:14 PM
Honestly KDS, I visit the PS forum from time to time, and lately the only time I see some passive aggressive swipe against this forum is when you’re the one doing it. Everyone else seems to be growing up and moving on, except you, which I find to be ironic because you post here as much as anyone else here. If you’ve got a problem with specific people, then come out and say it. Do you have a problem with specific reasons why people dislike Mike? Then come out and say it. You say that some on “other forums” would be surprised that you’d pick Brian over Mike as your favorite beach boy? Who here would even care!?

Did you read Mike’s 2005 lawsuit?
Have you read any one of his interviews in the last 5 years regarding Brian?

You don’t want to acknowledge these things actually happened? Totally fine! But don’t pretend like people on this forum hate Mike just to hate Mike. Seriously, let’s talk about that 2005 lawsuit and please change my mind as to why lying about Brian doesn’t make Mike an absolute schmuck. Seriously, I’d love for anyone to change my mind about that. But until then stop taking swipes at this forum because some here have certain views about Mike.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 18, 2018, 01:15:22 PM
I'd add a correction that KDS's posts are not the only swipes regularly being taken at this place or people here, but the others are mostly from disgruntled former members from this board who found a new home and an open mic, and may be upset that no one is listening and no minds are being changed. That's who they are, and what they do (and have done for years). It's all laid out. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 18, 2018, 03:09:45 PM
There’s a few others, but the oddest one is from Mujan/Super Metroid  who has stated that she felt upset that there was no response to the bullying she received , which is not true. Not only did I stick up for her, I banned the person doing the lions share of it... who now posts there at PSF , for what it’s worth.

For the most part though, most of the people there are cool, no issues with steamboat, Becca, Will Harris, etc. it’s the people like the ones GF mentioned that are an issue albeit increasingly smaller. I think most people on both boards have put the issues behind them.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on February 18, 2018, 04:17:47 PM
I don’t get the anti Mike mention either. I’ve been posting here for years. When Brian made GIOMH (a dud) the posts were predominantly negative. Bruce adjusts his mic and we comment on that. Al flubs lines and that is highlighted. Big deal!

However we have for better or worse, the self appointed spokesman of the group (he chooses to pay the licensing fee for the name) plugging 150 shows a year and talking to literally hundreds of media organisations. Statistically because he says the most he is going to shoot himself in the foot more than other group members. Mike has been in the industry for almost 60 years and should know the ropes by now. Saying the same inflammatory statements time and time again then bitching about the criticism calls in to question his mindset and he admits he has issues.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 18, 2018, 04:29:52 PM
100% on the money


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Dave in KC on February 18, 2018, 05:16:40 PM
The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.

Gotta be careful here or Bruce will say something like they have time to play your funeral.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on February 18, 2018, 05:20:52 PM
The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.

Gotta be careful here or Bruce will say something like they have time to play your funeral.
I write the insults!  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on February 18, 2018, 06:43:24 PM
The Beach Boys will be playing the Just For Laughs Festival in Montreal this July. Although confirmed, the date has not been released yet. Seeing as they are playing the Ottawa area on the 21st, one could assume it will be that same weekend, either the 20'th or 21st. Outdoor stage, Free show.

At a comedy festival?  Seems like a strange venue to be playing. I do believe you, and I did google it and found a few articles on it.  But just seems a little odd.

Gotta be careful here or Bruce will say something like they have time to play your funeral.
I write the insults!  :lol

Or, The Nearest Funeral Place.  ;)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 20, 2018, 10:45:30 AM
The Beach Boys. July 18th - White Family Dealership 2018 Concert Series at Centennial Terrace, 5773, Centennial Rd., Sylvania.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 20, 2018, 10:48:21 AM
July 19th Detroit. Freedom Hill. The Beach Boys


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Jim V. on February 20, 2018, 12:46:19 PM
There’s a few others, but the oddest one is from Mujan/Super Metroid  who has stated that she felt upset that there was no response to the bullying she received , which is not true. Not only did I stick up for her, I banned the person doing the lions share of it... who now posts there at PSF , for what it’s worth.

For the most part though, most of the people there are cool, no issues with steamboat, Becca, Will Harris, etc. it’s the people like the ones GF mentioned that are an issue albeit increasingly smaller. I think most people on both boards have put the issues behind them.

I agree with you Billy. And I gotta say, Mujan is especially weird because I'd say that Smiley Smile is a much more open, socially progressive board than PSF and people like The Real Beach Boy and mikesbeard and other homophobic/transphobic types on that board.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 20, 2018, 01:02:38 PM
There’s a few others, but the oddest one is from Mujan/Super Metroid  who has stated that she felt upset that there was no response to the bullying she received , which is not true. Not only did I stick up for her, I banned the person doing the lions share of it... who now posts there at PSF , for what it’s worth.

For the most part though, most of the people there are cool, no issues with steamboat, Becca, Will Harris, etc. it’s the people like the ones GF mentioned that are an issue albeit increasingly smaller. I think most people on both boards have put the issues behind them.

I agree with you Billy. And I gotta say, Mujan is especially weird because I'd say that Smiley Smile is a much more open, socially progressive board than PSF and people like The Real Beach Boy and mikesbeard and other homophobic/transphobic types on that board.

It's a case of a few bad apples, not the whole board. It just bothers me that someone left for a specific reason that WAS being addressed, then calls us out for not addressing the issue. Well, that's not the only thing that bothers me about that, but that's a big part of it.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 22, 2018, 11:18:39 AM
June 23rd. Pala Casino Spa and Resort- Pala CA

"...Most recently, in 2017, Love released a special double album through BMG entitled Unleash the Love. Featuring 13 previously unreleased songs and 14 re-recordings of Beach Boys classics, the album is a testament to and a continuation of Love's remarkable career. The Beach Boys continue to tour today with an impressive list of dates planned for 2018, following a record-setting year of 2017 performing over 175 shows and grossing over $23 million worldwide."


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 23, 2018, 12:09:49 AM
As they get older at some point as they get older they won’t be able to perform any more. The name should be retired at that point. I don’t want to see Jeff Foskett’s Band of Bastards (tm) in 2027 pass themselves off as The Beach Boys with an entirely new backing band.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on February 23, 2018, 05:53:15 AM
I am fairly sure that an authorised BB will continue, in same way as the current New Christy Minstrels -- who.used to.be soloists or whatever. Better that than yet another "tribute" band. A  licence should give some standard to be reached


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: the captain on February 23, 2018, 07:48:11 AM
I'd be shocked if no authorized band continued, as well.

The thing is, it could be amazing--a really great band. And sure, it would lack original members (by definition of the thought experiment). But ... does that really matter when you consider what these touring bands are right now? If you're personally set on watching those principals, then yes, even though every single one of them is a diminished version of his prior self (yes, even Al, who is still amazing for his age but not the little boy I once knew, oooh-ooh-ooh-ooh). If that's the case, I suggest that's more a nostalgia trip for you than a musical one anyway. Please don't take offense, I'm calling it like I see it.

But otherwise, those bands aren't out performing new music, with only rare exceptions: a song here and there, for the most part, at least since BW's Gershwin album tour. And even in the 00s, those BW tours were at least half oldies, with the first sets and encores sandwiching the new albums. (One of the three of those he performed in full was mostly old, too.) These are legacy bands performing old hits (or non-hits, sometimes). That's just a fact.

A band comprising the best of the non-principals across the current bands would be technically better than one with the principals. I'd without question pay to see such a band. I like all the drummers, so give me Cowsill, D'Amico, Hines, or Sucherman. Give me Totten, Sahanaja, Matt Jardine, Ike, Foskett, in a better universe an innocent Bennett, Gregory, Walusko, Mertens. You can fiddle with the specifics. The C50 band, though, plus Matt J and Ike, would be an amazing group to perform those amazing songs. I won't say there's nothing at all missing when the original guys aren't up there ... but there's no worse music being performed, and probably better music being performed in that situation. What's missing is emotional or nostalgic, not quality of music.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 23, 2018, 08:45:03 AM
I'm not in favor of continuing a band's name and licensing it if no original members are able to be on the stage or studio. When it's The Beach Boys, one of the bands in the upper echelon of popular music history, there is a responsibility to the legacy that has to be upheld. It's more than a name that can be sold to the highest bidder - or former sidemen who want it to be able to charge more for tickets based on the name. Other groups who do the name license thing generally are not near the status of The Beach Boys. I cannot imagine anyone suggesting The Beatles, Stones, Who, Zeppelin, or anyone in that caliber of artists would continue touring without original key members.



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: the captain on February 23, 2018, 08:54:54 AM
Well there you go. That's the difference between us. I disagree entirely that there is any responsibility to any kind of legacy in any case: if a band/entity wants to do it, fine. If not, fine. (I'm not saying it's something I WANT as a general rule, necessarily. Just that they have a right to it.)

But even allowing for the legacy line of thinking, I'd say any claims to some integrity of the original unit is long-since sullied, with members coming and going, sidemen handling major lifting, assorted unpleasantries between factions, etc. That's one key difference between the Beach Boys and the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and the like. Those bands broke up when they broke up. The Beach Boys were seemingly always breaking up and shifting things around. So to my thinking, they are more a brand than a band anyway and have been for decades. They more resemble the Basie band, etc.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 23, 2018, 09:13:56 AM
We do disagree Captain, I think the issue too is that the world of jazz, big bands, and dance bands that you're citing Count Basie as an example are a different universe with a different set of parameters than the rock and roll bands. Big bands since the 30's had shifting membership which fans of those bands (like my mom for one, back in the day lol) used to follow and keep track of who was in what band. Like who was Harry James playing with, where did *insert musician* end up now, etc. Like following a sports team and all the trades and deals that changed the roster.

Rock changed all that. For one, the core groups of players were just that - The bands were a core group of members that fans knew. Cite any example of the bands in the upper echelon and fans can name the core group. Anything less, minus the usual shifting of one or 2 members, wouldn't be the same.

Let me pose this as a question. I love the album "Time Out" by the Dave Brubeck Quartet. Would I pay to see a group calling itself "The Dave Brubeck Quartet" in 2018 playing that album live? I would not, because the key members are dead. It's as simple as that. If a group under another name were doing it, I wouldn't have an issue at all because they're not trying to take the name.

The big bands, like Basie, Miller, Dorsey? Yes, they all have touring versions and have for decades, long after the namesake bandleader had died...in Miller's case, since 1944. But they play the original book that everyone knows and expects to hear, and apart from the leader's name, there was never quite the same "core" group of musicians in any majority number traveling with those bands, with some exceptions.

But it's not quite the same scene as if we got a Led Zeppelin tour in 2027 with guys named Freddie, Jack, Smitty, and Sunny Jim playing the tunes instead of Page, Plant, or Jones. It would be a farce unless that group goes out as a tribute or cover band and didn't call themselves Led Zeppelin. I think in some cases like Zeppelin, fans would actually think it was so absurd they may even laugh at it instead of buying tickets, and why not at that point just do a tribute band like exists now for everyone from Led Zep to The Talking Heads at this point?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on February 23, 2018, 09:17:51 AM
Ah, but guitarfool....tribute bands steal clothes anyway. I wd favour continuity to stop that at least, or at least to reduce it


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 23, 2018, 09:24:15 AM
Ah, but guitarfool....tribute bands steal clothes anyway. I wd favour continuity to stop that at least, or at least to reduce it

haha, I can see that. Honestly, and I don't mean to offend here, but it's become more than tired and played out to see upcoming concerts by various Beach Boys tribute bands and see all the members wearing Hawaiian shirts. I mean, guys...we get it. Fun in the sun, party, beach balls...etc. But it does make me laugh to see these billings and ads and it seems they are always sporting Hawaiian shirts. You don't need Hawaiian shirts just because you're a Beach Boys cover band. That's the kind of C-level showbiz hackery that I get a kick out of.

The tribute band that does it right? I mean this 100% seriously, no joke. The Fab Faux. Besides the fact that among the members are Will Lee on bass and Jimmy Vivino on guitar, two of my favorite players in general, they don't wear Sgt Pepper costumes or don fake moustaches and Beatle wigs to play the shows. They put all their energy into paying tribute to the music, and getting the minute details of the music spot-on, which is why I love them.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on February 23, 2018, 09:43:40 AM
I agree. It makes me laugh, not in a good way, too see Tributes thus. Fendertones must be a high standard for competitors.....except they arent competing. Now THAT is a tribute


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: the captain on February 23, 2018, 09:51:23 AM

Rock changed all that. For one, the core groups of players were just that - The bands were a core group of members that fans knew. Cite any example of the bands in the upper echelon and fans can name the core group. Anything less, minus the usual shifting of one or 2 members, wouldn't be the same.

Let me pose this as a question. I love the album "Time Out" by the Dave Brubeck Quartet. Would I pay to see a group calling itself "The Dave Brubeck Quartet" in 2018 playing that album live? I would not, because the key members are dead. It's as simple as that. If a group under another name were doing it, I wouldn't have an issue at all because they're not trying to take the name.


This would hold more water with me if the Beach Boys followed that model. But the touring band The Beach Boys has had dozens of people in and out through the years, and most audience members probably knew little to nothing about who was who beyond recognizing a couple of the principals. The Beach Boys have operated more like the jazz bands than they have like the Beatles or Led Zeppelin. If you can be The Beach Boys with one Beach Boy on stage, with non-Beach Boys in the band for decades, and with non-Beach Boys carrying prominent roles, then you can be the Beach Boys with one fewer.

Any damage to the legacy is already done. I'm reminded of the old quote "haggling over the price" line often attributed to Churchill and to Shaw.

As to the second paragraph I left, there is no question (for me) in it. You asked yourself a question: would you pay to see that band. You answered yourself with a no. And that's fine. I am not saying you would. But that's irrelevant to me.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 23, 2018, 10:21:44 AM
While the BB's brand/trademark has been watered down to the point where, as has been established over the last 20 years, it *can* continue to exist with few (and surely zero) original members and have some level of success, the fact that the band name *can* exist regardless of membership doesn't mean that membership in the band doesn't impact its success. By that I mean the C50 tour. That tour garnered bookings, advances, and interest that Mike's tour doesn't (and never could). That tour could have continued and had the ability, *unlike* most again Motown and other oldies acts with few if any original members, to *build* up on that success and actually *change* the perception and brand/value.

As Howie Edelson referenced some time back regarding what an industry person said about C50 (and its demise), C50 managed to turn an AARP brand into an arena act. That *is* very rare. That's where the BB name and reputation *does* have some remnant of a "classic rock" type of band where its reconstituted form can bring fans and ticket sales back.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 23, 2018, 10:30:00 AM

Rock changed all that. For one, the core groups of players were just that - The bands were a core group of members that fans knew. Cite any example of the bands in the upper echelon and fans can name the core group. Anything less, minus the usual shifting of one or 2 members, wouldn't be the same.

Let me pose this as a question. I love the album "Time Out" by the Dave Brubeck Quartet. Would I pay to see a group calling itself "The Dave Brubeck Quartet" in 2018 playing that album live? I would not, because the key members are dead. It's as simple as that. If a group under another name were doing it, I wouldn't have an issue at all because they're not trying to take the name.


This would hold more water with me if the Beach Boys followed that model. But the touring band The Beach Boys has had dozens of people in and out through the years, and most audience members probably knew little to nothing about who was who beyond recognizing a couple of the principals. The Beach Boys have operated more like the jazz bands than they have like the Beatles or Led Zeppelin. If you can be The Beach Boys with one Beach Boy on stage, with non-Beach Boys in the band for decades, and with non-Beach Boys carrying prominent roles, then you can be the Beach Boys with one fewer.

Any damage to the legacy is already done. I'm reminded of the old quote "haggling over the price" line often attributed to Churchill and to Shaw.

As to the second paragraph I left, there is no question (for me) in it. You asked yourself a question: would you pay to see that band. You answered yourself with a no. And that's fine. I am not saying you would. But that's irrelevant to me.

I agree with you Captain.

Frankly, I think the current Mike and Bruce show is better for the legacy than some of the shows they were doing in the early 80s after Carl jumped ship, Dennis was in and out of the lineup because he couldn't keep himself clean, Brian sitting onstage doing very little most nights, and Mike, Al, and Bruce not really committing to rehearsing the material. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 23, 2018, 10:33:18 AM

Rock changed all that. For one, the core groups of players were just that - The bands were a core group of members that fans knew. Cite any example of the bands in the upper echelon and fans can name the core group. Anything less, minus the usual shifting of one or 2 members, wouldn't be the same.

Let me pose this as a question. I love the album "Time Out" by the Dave Brubeck Quartet. Would I pay to see a group calling itself "The Dave Brubeck Quartet" in 2018 playing that album live? I would not, because the key members are dead. It's as simple as that. If a group under another name were doing it, I wouldn't have an issue at all because they're not trying to take the name.


This would hold more water with me if the Beach Boys followed that model. But the touring band The Beach Boys has had dozens of people in and out through the years, and most audience members probably knew little to nothing about who was who beyond recognizing a couple of the principals. The Beach Boys have operated more like the jazz bands than they have like the Beatles or Led Zeppelin. If you can be The Beach Boys with one Beach Boy on stage, with non-Beach Boys in the band for decades, and with non-Beach Boys carrying prominent roles, then you can be the Beach Boys with one fewer.

Any damage to the legacy is already done. I'm reminded of the old quote "haggling over the price" line often attributed to Churchill and to Shaw.

As to the second paragraph I left, there is no question (for me) in it. You asked yourself a question: would you pay to see that band. You answered yourself with a no. And that's fine. I am not saying you would. But that's irrelevant to me.

Clumsy wording, my bad. Sometimes I'm better at multitasking than others.

But seriously, Captain - Are there any rock bands of note, and I don't mean C-listers like 1910 Fruitgum Company and the like, who are touring minus an original member? Genuine question, because I can't think of any.

And I guess my reasoning in asking that is how I would hate to see a group like the Beach Boys at some point becoming Foskett or whoever buys the rights going out as "The Beach Boys" with even less legitimacy minus even one guy who was actually in the band that created the legacy in the first place. It's a tribute band, not *the* band. There has to be a line drawn somewhere.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: the captain on February 23, 2018, 10:38:13 AM
No, I don't think there are any such rock bands--though to be clear and fair, I don't really follow that many older bands all that closely, so it's entirely possible that I just don't know of any. But as I know KDS and I have discussed on occasion, it's entirely possible that KISS will be the first/one such band.

And in most cases, to be clear, I'm not saying I'd prefer some kind of replacements with a licensing deal. I'm just saying they have a right to do so and in this particular case, musically, the results could well be better. Obviously the ideal situation would be a band that just breaks up and stops touring so that it never comes to that. But...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 23, 2018, 10:44:12 AM

Rock changed all that. For one, the core groups of players were just that - The bands were a core group of members that fans knew. Cite any example of the bands in the upper echelon and fans can name the core group. Anything less, minus the usual shifting of one or 2 members, wouldn't be the same.

Let me pose this as a question. I love the album "Time Out" by the Dave Brubeck Quartet. Would I pay to see a group calling itself "The Dave Brubeck Quartet" in 2018 playing that album live? I would not, because the key members are dead. It's as simple as that. If a group under another name were doing it, I wouldn't have an issue at all because they're not trying to take the name.


This would hold more water with me if the Beach Boys followed that model. But the touring band The Beach Boys has had dozens of people in and out through the years, and most audience members probably knew little to nothing about who was who beyond recognizing a couple of the principals. The Beach Boys have operated more like the jazz bands than they have like the Beatles or Led Zeppelin. If you can be The Beach Boys with one Beach Boy on stage, with non-Beach Boys in the band for decades, and with non-Beach Boys carrying prominent roles, then you can be the Beach Boys with one fewer.

Any damage to the legacy is already done. I'm reminded of the old quote "haggling over the price" line often attributed to Churchill and to Shaw.

As to the second paragraph I left, there is no question (for me) in it. You asked yourself a question: would you pay to see that band. You answered yourself with a no. And that's fine. I am not saying you would. But that's irrelevant to me.

I agree with you Captain.

Frankly, I think the current Mike and Bruce show is better for the legacy than some of the shows they were doing in the early 80s after Carl jumped ship, Dennis was in and out of the lineup because he couldn't keep himself clean, Brian sitting onstage doing very little most nights, and Mike, Al, and Bruce not really committing to rehearsing the material. 

Straight up direct question, and feel free anyone to insert this too:  :deadhorse

If the content of the shows is drawing people to them, why not just go out on tour as original members of this or any band as something like "...original members of (insert band name)" and not get tangled up in calling yourselves"The Beach Boys" or "The Rolling Stones" or whatever other name applies?

And it's not just the Beach Boys who have influenced my opinions of other classic bands who I love but whose squabbles and drama with which 2nd line member gets to book using the band name have kind of dirtied the rep a bit. Just my opinion, but there is something noble if that's the right word to a band calling it quits after it is unable to play with certain key members actually involved in the shows. And if those members left want to tour, they go out as their own name. There is something cheap to me about using a name to boost ticket sales if a majority of the members fans know aren't there. Again, not just the BB's.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 23, 2018, 10:47:17 AM
No, I don't think there are any such rock bands--though to be clear and fair, I don't really follow that many older bands all that closely, so it's entirely possible that I just don't know of any. But as I know KDS and I have discussed on occasion, it's entirely possible that KISS will be the first/one such band.

And in most cases, to be clear, I'm not saying I'd prefer some kind of replacements with a licensing deal. I'm just saying they have a right to do so and in this particular case, musically, the results could well be better. Obviously the ideal situation would be a band that just breaks up and stops touring so that it never comes to that. But...

And even with KISS, with me not even being a fan but still following the various dramas, Gene Simmons has been as divisive a figure among the diehard fans as we have seen with the BB's, and KISS is rife with feuds and squabbles and fan arguments surrounding former members who are not involved who either got the boot, or left on bad terms, and are replaced by Simmons as if they were no more vital to making the band who they were in the 70's as it would be simply giving the greasepaint and costume to a new musician to replace them, as they back Gene Simmons on his next run of shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 23, 2018, 10:50:55 AM
That’s why I liked it when Al was doing “The Beach Boys Friends and Family “. The name was honest


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: the captain on February 23, 2018, 10:53:13 AM
Again, just saying it could (will?) happen. Not that it would be uncontroversial. The more commercially minded entities presumably will always want to preserve their brands and generating revenue.

The fact is that all art is always a balance of art and commerce. Different people balance them differently. The ones making money are likely to see and like the opportunity to make more of it. There are innumerable opinions, but they're only that. The "right" thing to do doesn't really exist without defining a preferred end state. A band has its own right to define its own goals.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 23, 2018, 10:53:28 AM
That’s why I liked it when Al was doing “The Beach Boys Friends and Family “. The name was honest

Me too. And that honesty in Al's case got him sued by Mike for causing "confusion".  ;D


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 23, 2018, 10:56:29 AM
That’s why I liked it when Al was doing “The Beach Boys Friends and Family “. The name was honest

It was a good name, about as descriptive as a band name can possibly get. To boot, while a very minor point, the band name didn't technically have a "The" in front of it; it was "Beach Boys Family & Friends" as I recall, which I think helped in terms of the name not getting truncated to "The Beach Boys."

But the screws were put to that band from the get-go. We're lucky they got some decent touring done that one year in 1999. I managed to catch one of the few gigs they did in 2000, under the name "Al Jardine Family & Friends Beach Band."

It may well have been that the BBFF name wasn't sustainable in a world of shady promoters trying to imply an "official" Beach Boys band. But really, nobody was going to these shows and seeing the Wilson sisters, Owen Elliott, and Daryl Dragon and mistaking it for "THE" Beach Boys.

The 2000 gig I saw was one of my all-time favorites, even though it wasn't a super long show. That BBFF band was smokin' vocally, as good as any BB-related vocal unit I've seen live (even Brian's band), and they also had the great 70s backline BB band guys there as well.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 23, 2018, 10:57:54 AM
Again, just saying it could (will?) happen. Not that it would be uncontroversial. The more commercially minded entities presumably will always want to preserve their brands and generating revenue.

The fact is that all art is always a balance of art and commerce. Different people balance them differently. The ones making money are likely to see and like the opportunity to make more of it. There are innumerable opinions, but they're only that. The "right" thing to do doesn't really exist without defining a preferred end state. A band has its own right to define its own goals.

Right, and my own opinion, I think the phrase "No Wilsons, no Beach Boys" pretty much summed it up. As a comparison, sure he was essential and a terrific musician, but how many fans would buy the notion of John Paul Jones touring alone as "Led Zeppelin" without Page or Plant? It would be a laughingstock, as it would be if other bands of that stature were to have a similar scenario unfold. But again, that's all dead horse territory.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 23, 2018, 11:02:19 AM

Rock changed all that. For one, the core groups of players were just that - The bands were a core group of members that fans knew. Cite any example of the bands in the upper echelon and fans can name the core group. Anything less, minus the usual shifting of one or 2 members, wouldn't be the same.

Let me pose this as a question. I love the album "Time Out" by the Dave Brubeck Quartet. Would I pay to see a group calling itself "The Dave Brubeck Quartet" in 2018 playing that album live? I would not, because the key members are dead. It's as simple as that. If a group under another name were doing it, I wouldn't have an issue at all because they're not trying to take the name.


This would hold more water with me if the Beach Boys followed that model. But the touring band The Beach Boys has had dozens of people in and out through the years, and most audience members probably knew little to nothing about who was who beyond recognizing a couple of the principals. The Beach Boys have operated more like the jazz bands than they have like the Beatles or Led Zeppelin. If you can be The Beach Boys with one Beach Boy on stage, with non-Beach Boys in the band for decades, and with non-Beach Boys carrying prominent roles, then you can be the Beach Boys with one fewer.

Any damage to the legacy is already done. I'm reminded of the old quote "haggling over the price" line often attributed to Churchill and to Shaw.

As to the second paragraph I left, there is no question (for me) in it. You asked yourself a question: would you pay to see that band. You answered yourself with a no. And that's fine. I am not saying you would. But that's irrelevant to me.

I agree with you Captain.

Frankly, I think the current Mike and Bruce show is better for the legacy than some of the shows they were doing in the early 80s after Carl jumped ship, Dennis was in and out of the lineup because he couldn't keep himself clean, Brian sitting onstage doing very little most nights, and Mike, Al, and Bruce not really committing to rehearsing the material. 

Straight up direct question, and feel free anyone to insert this too:  :deadhorse

If the content of the shows is drawing people to them, why not just go out on tour as original members of this or any band as something like "...original members of (insert band name)" and not get tangled up in calling yourselves"The Beach Boys" or "The Rolling Stones" or whatever other name applies?

And it's not just the Beach Boys who have influenced my opinions of other classic bands who I love but whose squabbles and drama with which 2nd line member gets to book using the band name have kind of dirtied the rep a bit. Just my opinion, but there is something noble if that's the right word to a band calling it quits after it is unable to play with certain key members actually involved in the shows. And if those members left want to tour, they go out as their own name. There is something cheap to me about using a name to boost ticket sales if a majority of the members fans know aren't there. Again, not just the BB's.

Some artists do that, or amend the name of the band.  Queen + Adam Lambert, The Doors of the 21st Century, and Joey Molland's Badfinger come to mind.  

But, then you also have bands who made major personnel changes while still relevant.  Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Iron Maiden, Chicago, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, etc etc.

You could seriously write a tome about the debates of who / what makes a certain band who they are?  Are Daltrey and Townshend enough to qualify as The Who?   Should Dreja and McCarty tour as The Yardbirds?  

So, to answer your question, I think it would make more sense for fractured bands to amend their names, and I include the current Beach Boys in that.   I think it's a great concert, but more often than not, I still refer to it as "Mike and Bruce" because while it's a great live version of a great band, it's not truly The Beach Boys.   But, to some, The Beach Boys ceased to exist on Dec 28, 1983.  

But, there are also exceptions for bands like Deep Purple who have never really had a constant lineup.  In fact, their current lineup has been in place for 15 years, so they've been together longer than their original and "classic" lineups combined.  

As for big time legacy bands will all originals.   The big one is Aerosmith.  Though they don't tour as often as they once did.  There's also Poison.  Granted, not on the same level as Aerosmith, but they are pretty much the "Beatles of (So Called) Hair Metal."  

So, yeah, there really is no answer because it's different for every band.  

But the one thing I'll say is that I, personally, think it's more acceptable for bands like The Beach Boys to tour with greatly fractured lineups than to release new music.  


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: mikeddonn on February 23, 2018, 04:32:59 PM
The Beach Boys will be like a football team.  Still have the same name but different players.  Unfortunately, it has become a franchise.  Most people support the same football team they did 30 years ago, but it won't have any of the same players, for obvious reasons.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 23, 2018, 04:48:06 PM
The Beach Boys will be like a football team.  Still have the same name but different players.  Unfortunately, it has become a franchise.  Most people support the same football team they did 30 years ago, but it won't have any of the same players, for obvious reasons.

Will that happen to The Beatles, Stones, Who, Zeppelin, U2, Sex Pistols, Clash, Public Enemy, Boston, etc? Or any other truly top-tier band? Will they be like a football team?

I left out Guns N Roses because of everyone I could think of, Axl Rose will be the Mike Love of his generation in 25 years, still tourin' with a band having no original GnR members, with whatever auxiliary member he can grab to go with him. And laughing all the way to the bank as they sell 80's nostalgia kilts and Axl re-records a soundalike "Sweet Child O Mine" for his solo album due in the Fall of 2043.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on February 23, 2018, 05:54:43 PM
This logic has "Beach Boys" written all over it. This is what they are all about. They are totally a brand. They determined this from the get go. It never mattered to the majority (NOT folks like the few of us), who is up on that stage.

So, I don't think there's any question this will happen, the only uncertainty is "when?" .

The other wildcard (as morbid as it is, I've discussed it here before), who passes away first. Frankly, if anyone other than Mike passes, I don't think anything will change. If Mike were to pass before the other four, I would be well beyond intrigued as to what would happen next. Would Brian, Alan, and David become Beach Boys (with Bruce)? It's hard to imagine The Beach Boys without a "front man", at least, a Beach Boys that centralize around the early surfin'/car/girl hits.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Kid Presentable on February 24, 2018, 02:26:01 AM
The Beach Boys will be like a football team.  Still have the same name but different players.  Unfortunately, it has become a franchise.  Most people support the same football team they did 30 years ago, but it won't have any of the same players, for obvious reasons.

Will that happen to The Beatles, Stones, Who, Zeppelin, U2, Sex Pistols, Clash, Public Enemy, Boston, etc? Or any other truly top-tier band? Will they be like a football team?

I left out Guns N Roses because of everyone I could think of, Axl Rose will be the Mike Love of his generation in 25 years, still tourin' with a band having no original GnR members, with whatever auxiliary member he can grab to go with him. And laughing all the way to the bank as they sell 80's nostalgia kilts and Axl re-records a soundalike "Sweet Child O Mine" for his solo album due in the Fall of 2043.

There is a lot to criticise about Axl Rose, but in this comparison it's important to keep in mind that at the very least he has always been committed to being a progressive and creative musician above everything else.  He has just always been hard to work with and hasn't always been successful with his ideas.  I actually see him as having more in common with Dennis than with Mike in this comparison.  Axl accepts the legacy portion of his music, but in my opinion would likely not do a "rent the license and do a yearly endless tour" thing unless it also had the ability or at least the hope of creatively moving forward with something new.

I don't think the BBs will be like a football team franchise but eventually will be like an "Elvis: The Musical" thing that you can find for a few weeks every year at theaters in many major cities. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: mikeddonn on February 24, 2018, 05:23:42 AM
The Beach Boys will be like a football team.  Still have the same name but different players.  Unfortunately, it has become a franchise.  Most people support the same football team they did 30 years ago, but it won't have any of the same players, for obvious reasons.

Will that happen to The Beatles, Stones, Who, Zeppelin, U2, Sex Pistols, Clash, Public Enemy, Boston, etc? Or any other truly top-tier band? Will they be like a football team?

I'm not sure of your point regarding the bands you mention.  They obviously are not a franchise as the Beatles, for example, stopped touring in the 60s so I think it would be highly unlikely a 'Beatles' will tour in the future with different members.  The others have also had long periods of not touring and when the members die it is likely any chance of the band touring will also die with them. Unfortunately, in the eyes of the public at large the Beach Boys are not a top-tier band.  Evidenced when I go to Record Fayre's like today and see an abundance of stuff for all the above groups, but very little for Beach Boys.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on February 24, 2018, 06:28:12 AM
mikedonn is right imo.....I have used the football team analogy before often to "justify" my onging interest , beyond just Brian's work


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 24, 2018, 08:37:50 AM
This logic has "Beach Boys" written all over it. This is what they are all about. They are totally a brand. They determined this from the get go. It never mattered to the majority (NOT folks like the few of us), who is up on that stage.

So, I don't think there's any question this will happen, the only uncertainty is "when?" .

The other wildcard (as morbid as it is, I've discussed it here before), who passes away first. Frankly, if anyone other than Mike passes, I don't think anything will change. If Mike were to pass before the other four, I would be well beyond intrigued as to what would happen next. Would Brian, Alan, and David become Beach Boys (with Bruce)? It's hard to imagine The Beach Boys without a "front man", at least, a Beach Boys that centralize around the early surfin'/car/girl hits.

I believe a 'Beach Boys' without Mike, would cruise right along. If Brian, Al, Bruce and Dave were to start touring as The Beach Boys tomorrow because Mike was out of the picture, it would work for exactly the same reasons Mike and Bruce do. As mentioned, it's a brand at this point. People want to see the Beach Boys, and many of those people aren't hardcore fans, who are all absorbed in the machinations of lineups, band politics, etc. I guess to summarize, the very reason it works so well for Mike, is the very reason it would work so well without him.

As for a band without any of them present, going out under the name, that's where I would lose interest..but I could see it happening.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 24, 2018, 09:51:44 AM
This logic has "Beach Boys" written all over it. This is what they are all about. They are totally a brand. They determined this from the get go. It never mattered to the majority (NOT folks like the few of us), who is up on that stage.

So, I don't think there's any question this will happen, the only uncertainty is "when?" .

The other wildcard (as morbid as it is, I've discussed it here before), who passes away first. Frankly, if anyone other than Mike passes, I don't think anything will change. If Mike were to pass before the other four, I would be well beyond intrigued as to what would happen next. Would Brian, Alan, and David become Beach Boys (with Bruce)? It's hard to imagine The Beach Boys without a "front man", at least, a Beach Boys that centralize around the early surfin'/car/girl hits.

I believe a 'Beach Boys' without Mike, would cruise right along. If Brian, Al, Bruce and Dave were to start touring as The Beach Boys tomorrow because Mike was out of the picture, it would work for exactly the same reasons Mike and Bruce do. As mentioned, it's a brand at this point. People want to see the Beach Boys, and many of those people aren't hardcore fans, who are all absorbed in the machinations of lineups, band politics, etc. I guess to summarize, the very reason it works so well for Mike, is the very reason it would work so well without him.

As for a band without any of them present, going out under the name, that's where I would lose interest..but I could see it happening.

KISS is talking about doing that, and I could see more artists do the same. 

Rock music has been stagnant a long time, and much of the genre's touring venue is from legacy artists.  I could forsee a future of more holograms and in name only bands.   


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on February 24, 2018, 09:41:37 PM
This logic has "Beach Boys" written all over it. This is what they are all about. They are totally a brand. They determined this from the get go. It never mattered to the majority (NOT folks like the few of us), who is up on that stage.

So, I don't think there's any question this will happen, the only uncertainty is "when?" .

The other wildcard (as morbid as it is, I've discussed it here before), who passes away first. Frankly, if anyone other than Mike passes, I don't think anything will change. If Mike were to pass before the other four, I would be well beyond intrigued as to what would happen next. Would Brian, Alan, and David become Beach Boys (with Bruce)? It's hard to imagine The Beach Boys without a "front man", at least, a Beach Boys that centralize around the early surfin'/car/girl hits.

I believe a 'Beach Boys' without Mike, would cruise right along. If Brian, Al, Bruce and Dave were to start touring as The Beach Boys tomorrow because Mike was out of the picture, it would work for exactly the same reasons Mike and Bruce do. As mentioned, it's a brand at this point. People want to see the Beach Boys, and many of those people aren't hardcore fans, who are all absorbed in the machinations of lineups, band politics, etc. I guess to summarize, the very reason it works so well for Mike, is the very reason it would work so well without him.

As for a band without any of them present, going out under the name, that's where I would lose interest..but I could see it happening.

"Juice"...I have no doubt it would work. My question (if I had framed it better before) is, do we think the three Beach Boys who are currently NOT in the lineup would be interested in taking on the responsibility of the touring license if Mike were not around to do so and they all were? It would dramatically change the touring schedule for sure. I couldn't see Brian doing the number of shows or the lower-end venues that Mike has no shame in picking up along with the theatres and nicer joints.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Gabo on February 24, 2018, 09:48:53 PM
This logic has "Beach Boys" written all over it. This is what they are all about. They are totally a brand. They determined this from the get go. It never mattered to the majority (NOT folks like the few of us), who is up on that stage.

So, I don't think there's any question this will happen, the only uncertainty is "when?" .

The other wildcard (as morbid as it is, I've discussed it here before), who passes away first. Frankly, if anyone other than Mike passes, I don't think anything will change. If Mike were to pass before the other four, I would be well beyond intrigued as to what would happen next. Would Brian, Alan, and David become Beach Boys (with Bruce)? It's hard to imagine The Beach Boys without a "front man", at least, a Beach Boys that centralize around the early surfin'/car/girl hits.
As for a band without any of them present, going out under the name, that's where I would lose interest..but I could see it happening.

Agreed, but, still, who could fill Bruce's shoes onstage?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 25, 2018, 12:32:19 AM
This logic has "Beach Boys" written all over it. This is what they are all about. They are totally a brand. They determined this from the get go. It never mattered to the majority (NOT folks like the few of us), who is up on that stage.

So, I don't think there's any question this will happen, the only uncertainty is "when?" .

The other wildcard (as morbid as it is, I've discussed it here before), who passes away first. Frankly, if anyone other than Mike passes, I don't think anything will change. If Mike were to pass before the other four, I would be well beyond intrigued as to what would happen next. Would Brian, Alan, and David become Beach Boys (with Bruce)? It's hard to imagine The Beach Boys without a "front man", at least, a Beach Boys that centralize around the early surfin'/car/girl hits.

I believe a 'Beach Boys' without Mike, would cruise right along. If Brian, Al, Bruce and Dave were to start touring as The Beach Boys tomorrow because Mike was out of the picture, it would work for exactly the same reasons Mike and Bruce do. As mentioned, it's a brand at this point. People want to see the Beach Boys, and many of those people aren't hardcore fans, who are all absorbed in the machinations of lineups, band politics, etc. I guess to summarize, the very reason it works so well for Mike, is the very reason it would work so well without him.

As for a band without any of them present, going out under the name, that's where I would lose interest..but I could see it happening.

"Juice"...I have no doubt it would work. My question (if I had framed it better before) is, do we think the three Beach Boys who are currently NOT in the lineup would be interested in taking on the responsibility of the touring license if Mike were not around to do so and they all were? It would dramatically change the touring schedule for sure. I couldn't see Brian doing the number of shows or the lower-end venues that Mike has no shame in picking up along with the theatres and nicer joints.

I would be surprised if that happened.   Brian's camp has spent the better part of the last two decades building the Brian Wilson brand.  I would think they would keep touring as Brian Wilson.   


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on February 25, 2018, 06:32:20 AM
I don't think Brian would go for it at all. And I would fully expect the Lovester to have a "Beach Boys'' Band ot on the road in name only when he decides to cal it quits, as long as shows can be booked and money is to be made.....no matter how he cheapens the name. It's all about the dollar to Mikey, he could care less if there are a bunch on young guys who perform under the guise of the Beach Boys.....as long as he can sell it and make $.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 26, 2018, 07:32:38 AM
Clearly Brian has little or no interest in touring as "The Beach Boys."

But I don't think it makes sense to assume that if we're trying to look at such a hypothetical, that it would require Brian to tour with the name in the precise same mode that Mike does. So questions of "Could Brian do as many shows?" or "Would Brian book low-end venues?", etc. aren't really applicable.

Brian (and Al or whomever would be involved) could do 50 shows per year, or 75, or 100. They could forego whatever venues/cities they didn't want to do.

For better or worse, considering the statistically small amount of time that would likely pass between the death or major infirmity of, say, Mike, and the continued to desire to extensively tour by, say Brian (or vice versa for that matter), the more likely scenario worth pondering is what happens when *all* of the members are unable or unwilling to tour. Then what happens? Would the estates (and/or surviving members if applicable) vote for and form a licensed touring band? I'm pretty convinced this is the sort of thing that someone like Foskett would and could be angling at in the long run.

I'd rather see something more along the lines of a "Beach Boys Family & Friends" or "California Saga" sort of thing involving Matt Jardine, perhaps Billy Hinsche (though he's not like extensively younger than the actual BBs I guess), and some other family members. I wouldn't be interested in kind of just seeing a Mike/Bruce type band but without Mike and Bruce, with just Mike's backing guys like Foskett and Totten fronting a band.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 26, 2018, 07:38:08 AM
Clearly Brian has little or no interest in touring as "The Beach Boys."

But I don't think it makes sense to assume that if we're trying to look at such a hypothetical, that it would require Brian to tour with the name in the precise same mode that Mike does. So questions of "Could Brian do as many shows?" or "Would Brian book low-end venues?", etc. aren't really applicable.

Brian (and Al or whomever would be involved) could do 50 shows per year, or 75, or 100. They could forego whatever venues/cities they didn't want to do.

For better or worse, considering the statistically small amount of time that would likely pass between the death or major infirmity of, say, Mike, and the continued to desire to extensively tour by, say Brian (or vice versa for that matter), the more likely scenario worth pondering is what happens when *all* of the members are unable or unwilling to tour. Then what happens? Would the estates (and/or surviving members if applicable) vote for and form a licensed touring band? I'm pretty convinced this is the sort of thing that someone like Foskett would and could be angling at in the long run.

I'd rather see something more along the lines of a "Beach Boys Family & Friends" or "California Saga" sort of thing involving Matt Jardine, perhaps Billy Hinsche (though he's not like extensively younger than the actual BBs I guess), and some other family members. I wouldn't be interested in kind of just seeing a Mike/Bruce type band but without Mike and Bruce, with just Mike's backing guys like Foskett and Totten fronting a band.

Plus, if Brian's band did elect to tour as The Beach Boys, there are a lot of songs that they don't play that they would suddenly be obligated to include - Surfin Sufari, Be True to Your School, Catch a Wave, and......wait for it.....Kokomo. 

Have you read or heard any interviews where Jeff Foskett expressed interview in touring as The Beach Boys after Mike retires? 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on February 26, 2018, 08:15:02 AM
This logic has "Beach Boys" written all over it. This is what they are all about. They are totally a brand. They determined this from the get go. It never mattered to the majority (NOT folks like the few of us), who is up on that stage.

So, I don't think there's any question this will happen, the only uncertainty is "when?" .

The other wildcard (as morbid as it is, I've discussed it here before), who passes away first. Frankly, if anyone other than Mike passes, I don't think anything will change. If Mike were to pass before the other four, I would be well beyond intrigued as to what would happen next. Would Brian, Alan, and David become Beach Boys (with Bruce)? It's hard to imagine The Beach Boys without a "front man", at least, a Beach Boys that centralize around the early surfin'/car/girl hits.

I believe a 'Beach Boys' without Mike, would cruise right along. If Brian, Al, Bruce and Dave were to start touring as The Beach Boys tomorrow because Mike was out of the picture, it would work for exactly the same reasons Mike and Bruce do. As mentioned, it's a brand at this point. People want to see the Beach Boys, and many of those people aren't hardcore fans, who are all absorbed in the machinations of lineups, band politics, etc. I guess to summarize, the very reason it works so well for Mike, is the very reason it would work so well without him.

As for a band without any of them present, going out under the name, that's where I would lose interest..but I could see it happening.

"Juice"...I have no doubt it would work. My question (if I had framed it better before) is, do we think the three Beach Boys who are currently NOT in the lineup would be interested in taking on the responsibility of the touring license if Mike were not around to do so and they all were? It would dramatically change the touring schedule for sure. I couldn't see Brian doing the number of shows or the lower-end venues that Mike has no shame in picking up along with the theatres and nicer joints.

Point taken, I agree. I guess I was just framing it from the audience side of the equation. If those guys were out on the road as The Beach Boys, I don't think it would impact attendance negatively.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 26, 2018, 09:25:35 AM
Clearly Brian has little or no interest in touring as "The Beach Boys."

But I don't think it makes sense to assume that if we're trying to look at such a hypothetical, that it would require Brian to tour with the name in the precise same mode that Mike does. So questions of "Could Brian do as many shows?" or "Would Brian book low-end venues?", etc. aren't really applicable.

Brian (and Al or whomever would be involved) could do 50 shows per year, or 75, or 100. They could forego whatever venues/cities they didn't want to do.

For better or worse, considering the statistically small amount of time that would likely pass between the death or major infirmity of, say, Mike, and the continued to desire to extensively tour by, say Brian (or vice versa for that matter), the more likely scenario worth pondering is what happens when *all* of the members are unable or unwilling to tour. Then what happens? Would the estates (and/or surviving members if applicable) vote for and form a licensed touring band? I'm pretty convinced this is the sort of thing that someone like Foskett would and could be angling at in the long run.

I'd rather see something more along the lines of a "Beach Boys Family & Friends" or "California Saga" sort of thing involving Matt Jardine, perhaps Billy Hinsche (though he's not like extensively younger than the actual BBs I guess), and some other family members. I wouldn't be interested in kind of just seeing a Mike/Bruce type band but without Mike and Bruce, with just Mike's backing guys like Foskett and Totten fronting a band.

Plus, if Brian's band did elect to tour as The Beach Boys, there are a lot of songs that they don't play that they would suddenly be obligated to include - Surfin Sufari, Be True to Your School, Catch a Wave, and......wait for it.....Kokomo. 

Have you read or heard any interviews where Jeff Foskett expressed interview in touring as The Beach Boys after Mike retires? 

As we've discussed before concerning setlist requirements, I tend to doubt there are any specific song requirements. If Brian somehow ended up touring as "The Beach Boys", there wouldn't be any problem omitting some or all of those songs. Maybe he'd toss "Kokomo" to Matt to sing or something, maybe not.

Foskett almost never gives interviews, so I have not heard or read him directly saying anything concerning wanting to take over the license one day. Call it a well-informed hunch springing from more than simply a gut feeling.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 26, 2018, 09:32:08 AM
There were years during the BBs touring career where certain hits were eschewed and they did just fine. That's not to say anyone using the BB name could survive long doing nothing but Bread and Air Supply covers, but they'd be fine skipping some hits as long as they did some.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 26, 2018, 09:35:00 AM
Clearly Brian has little or no interest in touring as "The Beach Boys."

But I don't think it makes sense to assume that if we're trying to look at such a hypothetical, that it would require Brian to tour with the name in the precise same mode that Mike does. So questions of "Could Brian do as many shows?" or "Would Brian book low-end venues?", etc. aren't really applicable.

Brian (and Al or whomever would be involved) could do 50 shows per year, or 75, or 100. They could forego whatever venues/cities they didn't want to do.

For better or worse, considering the statistically small amount of time that would likely pass between the death or major infirmity of, say, Mike, and the continued to desire to extensively tour by, say Brian (or vice versa for that matter), the more likely scenario worth pondering is what happens when *all* of the members are unable or unwilling to tour. Then what happens? Would the estates (and/or surviving members if applicable) vote for and form a licensed touring band? I'm pretty convinced this is the sort of thing that someone like Foskett would and could be angling at in the long run.

I'd rather see something more along the lines of a "Beach Boys Family & Friends" or "California Saga" sort of thing involving Matt Jardine, perhaps Billy Hinsche (though he's not like extensively younger than the actual BBs I guess), and some other family members. I wouldn't be interested in kind of just seeing a Mike/Bruce type band but without Mike and Bruce, with just Mike's backing guys like Foskett and Totten fronting a band.

Plus, if Brian's band did elect to tour as The Beach Boys, there are a lot of songs that they don't play that they would suddenly be obligated to include - Surfin Sufari, Be True to Your School, Catch a Wave, and......wait for it.....Kokomo. 

Have you read or heard any interviews where Jeff Foskett expressed interview in touring as The Beach Boys after Mike retires? 

As we've discussed before concerning setlist requirements, I tend to doubt there are any specific song requirements. If Brian somehow ended up touring as "The Beach Boys", there wouldn't be any problem omitting some or all of those songs. Maybe he'd toss "Kokomo" to Matt to sing or something, maybe not.

Foskett almost never gives interviews, so I have not heard or read him directly saying anything concerning wanting to take over the license one day. Call it a well-informed hunch springing from more than simply a gut feeling.

I didn't say requirements, I said obligations.   Just as Chicago are obligated to play Saturday in the Park or Journey are obligated to play Don't Stop Believin.  Do they have to?  No. Iron Maiden regularly leaves Run to the Hills off their setlists.  But, touring under the BB banner, regardless of who the personnel is, sets a certain expectation. 



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 26, 2018, 09:39:35 AM
Clearly Brian has little or no interest in touring as "The Beach Boys."

But I don't think it makes sense to assume that if we're trying to look at such a hypothetical, that it would require Brian to tour with the name in the precise same mode that Mike does. So questions of "Could Brian do as many shows?" or "Would Brian book low-end venues?", etc. aren't really applicable.

Brian (and Al or whomever would be involved) could do 50 shows per year, or 75, or 100. They could forego whatever venues/cities they didn't want to do.

For better or worse, considering the statistically small amount of time that would likely pass between the death or major infirmity of, say, Mike, and the continued to desire to extensively tour by, say Brian (or vice versa for that matter), the more likely scenario worth pondering is what happens when *all* of the members are unable or unwilling to tour. Then what happens? Would the estates (and/or surviving members if applicable) vote for and form a licensed touring band? I'm pretty convinced this is the sort of thing that someone like Foskett would and could be angling at in the long run.

I'd rather see something more along the lines of a "Beach Boys Family & Friends" or "California Saga" sort of thing involving Matt Jardine, perhaps Billy Hinsche (though he's not like extensively younger than the actual BBs I guess), and some other family members. I wouldn't be interested in kind of just seeing a Mike/Bruce type band but without Mike and Bruce, with just Mike's backing guys like Foskett and Totten fronting a band.

Plus, if Brian's band did elect to tour as The Beach Boys, there are a lot of songs that they don't play that they would suddenly be obligated to include - Surfin Sufari, Be True to Your School, Catch a Wave, and......wait for it.....Kokomo.  

Have you read or heard any interviews where Jeff Foskett expressed interview in touring as The Beach Boys after Mike retires?  

As we've discussed before concerning setlist requirements, I tend to doubt there are any specific song requirements. If Brian somehow ended up touring as "The Beach Boys", there wouldn't be any problem omitting some or all of those songs. Maybe he'd toss "Kokomo" to Matt to sing or something, maybe not.

Foskett almost never gives interviews, so I have not heard or read him directly saying anything concerning wanting to take over the license one day. Call it a well-informed hunch springing from more than simply a gut feeling.

I didn't say requirements, I said obligations.   Just as Chicago are obligated to play Saturday in the Park or Journey are obligated to play Don't Stop Believin.  Do they have to?  No. Iron Maiden regularly leaves Run to the Hills off their setlists.  But, touring under the BB banner, regardless of who the personnel is, sets a certain expectation.  



Except an "obligation" outside of anything contractual is totally speculative and subjective. I would use the word "expectation" more than "obligation", and even then it would be a pretty murky area.

Would a BB tour survive without performing "Kokomo?" Yes. Would a BB tour survive by simply replicating a typical recent "Brian Wilson" setlist? I think so.

Would the tour survive by playing nothing but "MIU" and "So Tough" tracks? Probably not.

It's hard to find a good parallel for the touring BB situation, but we could look at something like the current incarnation of Styx, who leave out at least *some* of the well-known DeYoung hits.

Leaving out hits that are linked to an inactive member of a band is a harder proposition when the band only has a hand full of truly *well-known* hits. Supertramp, when Roger Hodgson left, tried to "divide" up the respective songs with Hodgson taking his tunes and the other guy taking his and continuing on under the Supertramp name. This didn't work, as Hodgson's hits were the most well-known ("Logical Song", "Give a Little Bit", "Take the Long Way Home"). They eventually just gave in and started doing the Hodgson songs (much to Hodgson's chagrin; I can't recall but there may have even been actual agreement in place barring that from happening at some point).

The difference with the BBs is that they have DOZENS of well-known songs, both hit singles and other well-known oldies and past radio staples.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 26, 2018, 09:50:35 AM
Clearly Brian has little or no interest in touring as "The Beach Boys."

But I don't think it makes sense to assume that if we're trying to look at such a hypothetical, that it would require Brian to tour with the name in the precise same mode that Mike does. So questions of "Could Brian do as many shows?" or "Would Brian book low-end venues?", etc. aren't really applicable.

Brian (and Al or whomever would be involved) could do 50 shows per year, or 75, or 100. They could forego whatever venues/cities they didn't want to do.

For better or worse, considering the statistically small amount of time that would likely pass between the death or major infirmity of, say, Mike, and the continued to desire to extensively tour by, say Brian (or vice versa for that matter), the more likely scenario worth pondering is what happens when *all* of the members are unable or unwilling to tour. Then what happens? Would the estates (and/or surviving members if applicable) vote for and form a licensed touring band? I'm pretty convinced this is the sort of thing that someone like Foskett would and could be angling at in the long run.

I'd rather see something more along the lines of a "Beach Boys Family & Friends" or "California Saga" sort of thing involving Matt Jardine, perhaps Billy Hinsche (though he's not like extensively younger than the actual BBs I guess), and some other family members. I wouldn't be interested in kind of just seeing a Mike/Bruce type band but without Mike and Bruce, with just Mike's backing guys like Foskett and Totten fronting a band.

Plus, if Brian's band did elect to tour as The Beach Boys, there are a lot of songs that they don't play that they would suddenly be obligated to include - Surfin Sufari, Be True to Your School, Catch a Wave, and......wait for it.....Kokomo.  

Have you read or heard any interviews where Jeff Foskett expressed interview in touring as The Beach Boys after Mike retires?  

As we've discussed before concerning setlist requirements, I tend to doubt there are any specific song requirements. If Brian somehow ended up touring as "The Beach Boys", there wouldn't be any problem omitting some or all of those songs. Maybe he'd toss "Kokomo" to Matt to sing or something, maybe not.

Foskett almost never gives interviews, so I have not heard or read him directly saying anything concerning wanting to take over the license one day. Call it a well-informed hunch springing from more than simply a gut feeling.

I didn't say requirements, I said obligations.   Just as Chicago are obligated to play Saturday in the Park or Journey are obligated to play Don't Stop Believin.  Do they have to?  No. Iron Maiden regularly leaves Run to the Hills off their setlists.  But, touring under the BB banner, regardless of who the personnel is, sets a certain expectation.  



Except an "obligation" outside of anything contractual is totally speculative and subjective. I would use the word "expectation" more than "obligation", and even then it would be a pretty murky area.

Would a BB tour survive without performing "Kokomo?" Yes. Would a BB tour survive by simply replicating a typical recent "Brian Wilson" setlist? I think so.

Would the tour survive by playing nothing but "MIU" and "So Tough" tracks? Probably not.

It's hard to find a good parallel for the touring BB situation, but we could look at something like the current incarnation of Styx, who leave out at least *some* of the well-known DeYoung hits.

Leaving out hits that are linked to an inactive member of a band is a harder proposition when the band only has a hand full of truly *well-known* hits. Supertramp, when Roger Hodgson left, tried to "divide" up the respective songs with Hodgson taking his tunes and the other guy taking his and continuing on under the Supertramp name. This didn't work, as Hodgson's hits were the most well-known ("Logical Song", "Give a Little Bit", "Take the Long Way Home"). They eventually just gave in and started doing the Hodgson songs (much to Hodgson's chagrin; I can't recall but there may have even been actual agreement in place barring that from happening at some point).

The difference with the BBs is that they have DOZENS of well-known songs, but hit singles and other well-known oldies and past radio staples.

It's really all a moot point anyway, as I think Brian's band touring as The Beach Boys is about as likely as my winning the Powerball. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 26, 2018, 09:53:54 AM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 26, 2018, 10:14:17 AM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

If it happened, I'd be frankly shocked.  Only because Brian and his band have worked for the better part of two decades to establish the Brian Wilson Brand.   The success of the BW brand can definitely be debated, and there's no doubt touring under The Beach Boys label would allow Brian and his band to play bigger venues.   


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: oldsurferdude on February 26, 2018, 10:35:28 AM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

One could only hope that it's sooner than later.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on February 26, 2018, 10:38:50 AM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

One could only hope that it's sooner than later.

...for Mike to run into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse)?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: B.E. on February 26, 2018, 11:00:54 AM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

One could only hope that it's sooner than later.

...for Mike to run into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse)?

If this isn't against the rules, it should be.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The Lovester on February 26, 2018, 11:46:06 AM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

One could only hope that it's sooner than later.
Classy.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on February 26, 2018, 01:23:01 PM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

One could only hope that it's sooner than later.

........... wow. Not even surprised that was said that’s pathetic in its self


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: David1964 on February 26, 2018, 01:36:29 PM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

One could only hope that it's sooner than later.
I've read some pretty classless things on this board over the years and this ranks right near the top. Disliking someone is one thing, but hoping for illness or worse is just sick.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 26, 2018, 08:06:32 PM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

One could only hope that it's sooner than later.

Can you please clarify what  you meant by this?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zargo on February 26, 2018, 10:10:55 PM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

It might become "Brian Wilson's Beach Boys" ala "Jeff Lynne's E.L.O"


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 27, 2018, 12:19:17 AM
Personally, it still wouldn’t be The Beach Boys. I’m almost the very definition of a Brianista but it wouldn’t be The Beach Boys without Mike either


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on February 27, 2018, 12:35:07 AM

That window is probably only another few years.


God....How long have we been saying that?  ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 27, 2018, 06:18:03 AM

That window is probably only another few years.


God....How long have we been saying that?  ::)

True, they most certainly have more longevity than most of us assumed. But the clock is still ticking. I don't think they'll all be touring 100 shows per year in their 90s.

If anything, their longevity makes it, in retrospect, even sadder than all but six months or so during 2012 out of the past 20 years have been wasted being apart from each other. *Especially* post-2012.

It's not blasphemous to point out that, barring Al Jardine who still sounds the same, none of the other guys sound as good or better in 2017/18 than they did in 2012.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on February 27, 2018, 06:22:04 AM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

It might become "Brian Wilson's Beach Boys" ala "Jeff Lynne's E.L.O"

The weird thing about Jeff Lynne with ELO is that usually when someone sticks their name in front of the band, it's because they don't have the full rights to the name and/or have been forced by contractual agreement (or court order!) to use such an amended name. But in the case of Lynne and ELO, he owns the name. He doesn't have to put "Jeff Lynne" in front of it, but for some reason (probably a mixture of finally highlighting his name more, and also to differentiate his band from the various off-shoot/knock-off bands like "ELO Part II" and "The Orchestra") has chosen to use the "Jeff Lynne's ELO" moniker which actually kind of makes it sound *less* legit.

I've wondered in past years if having Mike tour as something like "Mike Love's Beach Boys" may have been a decent compromise with the license/name situation. But I think once the name is being used like that, not much brand name reputation is being saved by making him put his name in front of the band name as a qualifier.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on February 27, 2018, 06:38:45 AM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

One could only hope that it's sooner than later.

Can you please clarify what  you meant by this?

I, and many others still faithfully hold out for Brian to take back the BB name although *Brian Wilson* eliminates any confusion as to who will be performing or recording. I still think of Brian as a Beach Boy however.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 27, 2018, 10:10:54 AM
Works for me


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on March 01, 2018, 07:00:07 PM
It's unlikely, no question. It's not *that* unlikely. If Mike in the next couple years runs into some problem rendering some sort of infirmity (or worse), then things might change. That's the only scenario where I could see something along the lines of Brian's band essentially simply taking on the BB name. That window is probably only another few years.

It might become "Brian Wilson's Beach Boys" ala "Jeff Lynne's E.L.O"

The weird thing about Jeff Lynne with ELO is that usually when someone sticks their name in front of the band, it's because they don't have the full rights to the name and/or have been forced by contractual agreement (or court order!) to use such an amended name. But in the case of Lynne and ELO, he owns the name. He doesn't have to put "Jeff Lynne" in front of it, but for some reason (probably a mixture of finally highlighting his name more, and also to differentiate his band from the various off-shoot/knock-off bands like "ELO Part II" and "The Orchestra") has chosen to use the "Jeff Lynne's ELO" moniker which actually kind of makes it sound *less* legit.

I've wondered in past years if having Mike tour as something like "Mike Love's Beach Boys" may have been a decent compromise with the license/name situation. But I think once the name is being used like that, not much brand name reputation is being saved by making him put his name in front of the band name as a qualifier.

Of course Alan has sounded the same since 1983


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Dave in KC on March 02, 2018, 06:07:45 PM
His album is a true masterpiece in my domain.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: DC310 on March 04, 2018, 11:42:10 AM
I saw the band last night in Thousand Oaks, CA.  Quick background on me: Never saw the BBs in their heyday live, but have seen all different touring versions of BBs, BW and Al's bands since the late '80s.  Up until 2016, I could take or leave Mike's band.  I was happy that he continued to tour and bring the music to so many fans, but (especially compared to Brian's band) I thought the concerts themselves were quite forgettable.  I would still see them when I could (for me hearing this music live performed by ANYONE is a treat), but never left eager to see them again.  That all changed in 2016 when I saw Mike and his band at this same venue in Thousand Oaks.  The band was tight, the harmonies were killer, the setlist had some unexpected deep cuts and the vibe was excellent.  It felt like Mike and Co. had upped their game.  Still a very different concert experience than seeing Brian and his band, but awesome in its own way.  Seeing Jeff taking some great leads, along with Scott and Brian E to me felt like the spirit of what the Beach Boys music is and can be moving forward. I was unable to make their show last year at same venue, but was thrilled to see them again last night.  It was, however, quite a letdown.

Highlights-
Christian Love performed the whole set with the band and sounded fantastic on God Only Knows and Good Vibrations.  I wish he would've sung more leads.
Bruce's falsetto at the end of Fun Fun Fun was quite impressive and he wasn't doubled by anyone else.  He also had a couple of other great stand out falsetto vocal moments.
Scott sounded lovely on Betsy, and his lead playing is top notch.
Jeff sounded great on Darlin'.

Lowlights-
Backing vocals- I'm not sure what is going on, but Jeff selectively sings falsetto now.  Sometimes someone else is on top of the stack, but other times it's just empty (or the sound mixer is asleep at the wheel, which is quite possible based on how terrible the mix was last night).  When Jeff did sing falsetto, it sounded pretty weak (though he sounded great full voice on Darlin').  A friend saw them in October last year and Jeff didn't sing at all, so I wonder if he is having voice issues.
Mike's schtick- which had toned way down the last time I saw them-- last night felt like we were back to the circus with all the dumb tired jokes and banter
Hearing so many songs from Mike's album- they are just terrible.
Stamos- He played most of show with them.  I don't mind him on 4th guitar, but when he drums instead of Cowsill, everything falls flat.  He has no sense of meter and is more concerned about twirling a drum stick in between tom hits than keeping solid time. 
Do It Again- I already mentioned Mike's album cuts, but this gets its own mention. Just...no.  Please.  Play the real version.  No one in the crowd knows or cares who Mark McGrath is.  Some people around me were quite confused.
No Brian E- Nothing against Randall who is great, but Brian's vocals on I Can Hear Music and Then I Kissed Her in 2016 elevated the whole show.  His absence is felt, even though during his entire run with band, his vocals were criminally underutilized.
The theremin substitute sounds on Good Vibrations-  Horrendous.  Sounded like a child's toy.  Clearly a choice to make it sound like this instead of what I've heard previously.  Inexplicable.  I hope someone posts a video online.
THE SOUND MIX- was the worst I've heard at a BB related show.  Ever. 
The videos played during about half the songs are of teenagers in bikinis, with no sense of irony.  It's pretty icky.



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocker on March 04, 2018, 12:07:20 PM
I saw the band last night in Thousand Oaks, CA.  Quick background on me: Never saw the BBs in their heyday live, but have seen all different touring versions of BBs, BW and Al's bands since the late '80s.  Up until 2016, I could take or leave Mike's band.  I was happy that he continued to tour and bring the music to so many fans, but (especially compared to Brian's band) I thought the concerts themselves were quite forgettable.  I would still see them when I could (for me hearing this music live performed by ANYONE is a treat), but never left eager to see them again.  That all changed in 2016 when I saw Mike and his band at this same venue in Thousand Oaks.  The band was tight, the harmonies were killer, the setlist had some unexpected deep cuts and the vibe was excellent.  It felt like Mike and Co. had upped their game.  Still a very different concert experience than seeing Brian and his band, but awesome in its own way.  Seeing Jeff taking some great leads, along with Scott and Brian E to me felt like the spirit of what the Beach Boys music is and can be moving forward. I was unable to make their show last year at same venue, but was thrilled to see them again last night.  It was, however, quite a letdown.

Highlights-
Christian Love performed the whole set with the band and sounded fantastic on God Only Knows and Good Vibrations.  I wish he would've sung more leads.
Bruce's falsetto at the end of Fun Fun Fun was quite impressive and he wasn't doubled by anyone else.  He also had a couple of other great stand out falsetto vocal moments.
Scott sounded lovely on Betsy, and his lead playing is top notch.
Jeff sounded great on Darlin'.

Lowlights-
Backing vocals- I'm not sure what is going on, but Jeff selectively sings falsetto now.  Sometimes someone else is on top of the stack, but other times it's just empty (or the sound mixer is asleep at the wheel, which is quite possible based on how terrible the mix was last night).  When Jeff did sing falsetto, it sounded pretty weak (though he sounded great full voice on Darlin').  A friend saw them in October last year and Jeff didn't sing at all, so I wonder if he is having voice issues.
Mike's schtick- which had toned way down the last time I saw them-- last night felt like we were back to the circus with all the dumb tired jokes and banter
Hearing so many songs from Mike's album- they are just terrible.
Stamos- He played most of show with them.  I don't mind him on 4th guitar, but when he drums instead of Cowsill, everything falls flat.  He has no sense of meter and is more concerned about twirling a drum stick in between tom hits than keeping solid time. 
Do It Again- I already mentioned Mike's album cuts, but this gets its own mention. Just...no.  Please.  Play the real version.  No one in the crowd knows or cares who Mark McGrath is.  Some people around me were quite confused.
No Brian E- Nothing against Randall who is great, but Brian's vocals on I Can Hear Music and Then I Kissed Her in 2016 elevated the whole show.  His absence is felt, even though during his entire run with band, his vocals were criminally underutilized.
The theremin substitute sounds on Good Vibrations-  Horrendous.  Sounded like a child's toy.  Clearly a choice to make it sound like this instead of what I've heard previously.  Inexplicable.  I hope someone posts a video online.
THE SOUND MIX- was the worst I've heard at a BB related show.  Ever. 
The videos played during about half the songs are of teenagers in bikinis, with no sense of irony.  It's pretty icky.




Thanks for your review!

Here's "Fun, fun, fun":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ8VkyO-q2Q


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: All Summer Long on March 04, 2018, 05:18:00 PM
I saw the band last night in Thousand Oaks, CA.  Quick background on me: Never saw the BBs in their heyday live, but have seen all different touring versions of BBs, BW and Al's bands since the late '80s.  Up until 2016, I could take or leave Mike's band.  I was happy that he continued to tour and bring the music to so many fans, but (especially compared to Brian's band) I thought the concerts themselves were quite forgettable.  I would still see them when I could (for me hearing this music live performed by ANYONE is a treat), but never left eager to see them again.  That all changed in 2016 when I saw Mike and his band at this same venue in Thousand Oaks.  The band was tight, the harmonies were killer, the setlist had some unexpected deep cuts and the vibe was excellent.  It felt like Mike and Co. had upped their game.  Still a very different concert experience than seeing Brian and his band, but awesome in its own way.  Seeing Jeff taking some great leads, along with Scott and Brian E to me felt like the spirit of what the Beach Boys music is and can be moving forward. I was unable to make their show last year at same venue, but was thrilled to see them again last night.  It was, however, quite a letdown.

Highlights-
Christian Love performed the whole set with the band and sounded fantastic on God Only Knows and Good Vibrations.  I wish he would've sung more leads.
Bruce's falsetto at the end of Fun Fun Fun was quite impressive and he wasn't doubled by anyone else.  He also had a couple of other great stand out falsetto vocal moments.
Scott sounded lovely on Betsy, and his lead playing is top notch.
Jeff sounded great on Darlin'.

Lowlights-
Backing vocals- I'm not sure what is going on, but Jeff selectively sings falsetto now.  Sometimes someone else is on top of the stack, but other times it's just empty (or the sound mixer is asleep at the wheel, which is quite possible based on how terrible the mix was last night).  When Jeff did sing falsetto, it sounded pretty weak (though he sounded great full voice on Darlin').  A friend saw them in October last year and Jeff didn't sing at all, so I wonder if he is having voice issues.
Mike's schtick- which had toned way down the last time I saw them-- last night felt like we were back to the circus with all the dumb tired jokes and banter
Hearing so many songs from Mike's album- they are just terrible.
Stamos- He played most of show with them.  I don't mind him on 4th guitar, but when he drums instead of Cowsill, everything falls flat.  He has no sense of meter and is more concerned about twirling a drum stick in between tom hits than keeping solid time. 
Do It Again- I already mentioned Mike's album cuts, but this gets its own mention. Just...no.  Please.  Play the real version.  No one in the crowd knows or cares who Mark McGrath is.  Some people around me were quite confused.
No Brian E- Nothing against Randall who is great, but Brian's vocals on I Can Hear Music and Then I Kissed Her in 2016 elevated the whole show.  His absence is felt, even though during his entire run with band, his vocals were criminally underutilized.
The theremin substitute sounds on Good Vibrations-  Horrendous.  Sounded like a child's toy.  Clearly a choice to make it sound like this instead of what I've heard previously.  Inexplicable.  I hope someone posts a video online.
THE SOUND MIX- was the worst I've heard at a BB related show.  Ever. 
The videos played during about half the songs are of teenagers in bikinis, with no sense of irony.  It's pretty icky.



DC310, did Mike say if Randall and Christian are back in the touring band for good?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on March 04, 2018, 06:49:04 PM
 myKe luHv and the Impersonators.  ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on March 05, 2018, 03:42:41 AM
The  Fun Fun Fun video posted  above didn't really sound great. And is there anyone more annoying on stage these days at a Beach Boys concert than John Stamos?  Not only does he play an inaudible,likely unplugged guitar merely for affect, but his constant running around the stage from spot to spot is ludicrous. This guy so wants to be a rock and roll star. John, please give it a rest and stick to acting....you take so much more than you give to these shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on March 05, 2018, 06:35:24 AM
I saw the band last night in Thousand Oaks, CA.  Quick background on me: Never saw the BBs in their heyday live, but have seen all different touring versions of BBs, BW and Al's bands since the late '80s.  Up until 2016, I could take or leave Mike's band.  I was happy that he continued to tour and bring the music to so many fans, but (especially compared to Brian's band) I thought the concerts themselves were quite forgettable.  I would still see them when I could (for me hearing this music live performed by ANYONE is a treat), but never left eager to see them again.  That all changed in 2016 when I saw Mike and his band at this same venue in Thousand Oaks.  The band was tight, the harmonies were killer, the setlist had some unexpected deep cuts and the vibe was excellent.  It felt like Mike and Co. had upped their game.  Still a very different concert experience than seeing Brian and his band, but awesome in its own way.  Seeing Jeff taking some great leads, along with Scott and Brian E to me felt like the spirit of what the Beach Boys music is and can be moving forward. I was unable to make their show last year at same venue, but was thrilled to see them again last night.  It was, however, quite a letdown.

Highlights-
Christian Love performed the whole set with the band and sounded fantastic on God Only Knows and Good Vibrations.  I wish he would've sung more leads.
Bruce's falsetto at the end of Fun Fun Fun was quite impressive and he wasn't doubled by anyone else.  He also had a couple of other great stand out falsetto vocal moments.
Scott sounded lovely on Betsy, and his lead playing is top notch.
Jeff sounded great on Darlin'.

Lowlights-
Backing vocals- I'm not sure what is going on, but Jeff selectively sings falsetto now.  Sometimes someone else is on top of the stack, but other times it's just empty (or the sound mixer is asleep at the wheel, which is quite possible based on how terrible the mix was last night).  When Jeff did sing falsetto, it sounded pretty weak (though he sounded great full voice on Darlin').  A friend saw them in October last year and Jeff didn't sing at all, so I wonder if he is having voice issues.
Mike's schtick- which had toned way down the last time I saw them-- last night felt like we were back to the circus with all the dumb tired jokes and banter
Hearing so many songs from Mike's album- they are just terrible.
Stamos- He played most of show with them.  I don't mind him on 4th guitar, but when he drums instead of Cowsill, everything falls flat.  He has no sense of meter and is more concerned about twirling a drum stick in between tom hits than keeping solid time. 
Do It Again- I already mentioned Mike's album cuts, but this gets its own mention. Just...no.  Please.  Play the real version.  No one in the crowd knows or cares who Mark McGrath is.  Some people around me were quite confused.
No Brian E- Nothing against Randall who is great, but Brian's vocals on I Can Hear Music and Then I Kissed Her in 2016 elevated the whole show.  His absence is felt, even though during his entire run with band, his vocals were criminally underutilized.
The theremin substitute sounds on Good Vibrations-  Horrendous.  Sounded like a child's toy.  Clearly a choice to make it sound like this instead of what I've heard previously.  Inexplicable.  I hope someone posts a video online.
THE SOUND MIX- was the worst I've heard at a BB related show.  Ever. 
The videos played during about half the songs are of teenagers in bikinis, with no sense of irony.  It's pretty icky.



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Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 05, 2018, 06:40:03 AM
I saw the band last night in Thousand Oaks, CA.  Quick background on me: Never saw the BBs in their heyday live, but have seen all different touring versions of BBs, BW and Al's bands since the late '80s.  Up until 2016, I could take or leave Mike's band.  I was happy that he continued to tour and bring the music to so many fans, but (especially compared to Brian's band) I thought the concerts themselves were quite forgettable.  I would still see them when I could (for me hearing this music live performed by ANYONE is a treat), but never left eager to see them again.  That all changed in 2016 when I saw Mike and his band at this same venue in Thousand Oaks.  The band was tight, the harmonies were killer, the setlist had some unexpected deep cuts and the vibe was excellent.  It felt like Mike and Co. had upped their game.  Still a very different concert experience than seeing Brian and his band, but awesome in its own way.  Seeing Jeff taking some great leads, along with Scott and Brian E to me felt like the spirit of what the Beach Boys music is and can be moving forward. I was unable to make their show last year at same venue, but was thrilled to see them again last night.  It was, however, quite a letdown.

Highlights-
Christian Love performed the whole set with the band and sounded fantastic on God Only Knows and Good Vibrations.  I wish he would've sung more leads.
Bruce's falsetto at the end of Fun Fun Fun was quite impressive and he wasn't doubled by anyone else.  He also had a couple of other great stand out falsetto vocal moments.
Scott sounded lovely on Betsy, and his lead playing is top notch.
Jeff sounded great on Darlin'.

Lowlights-
Backing vocals- I'm not sure what is going on, but Jeff selectively sings falsetto now.  Sometimes someone else is on top of the stack, but other times it's just empty (or the sound mixer is asleep at the wheel, which is quite possible based on how terrible the mix was last night).  When Jeff did sing falsetto, it sounded pretty weak (though he sounded great full voice on Darlin').  A friend saw them in October last year and Jeff didn't sing at all, so I wonder if he is having voice issues.
Mike's schtick- which had toned way down the last time I saw them-- last night felt like we were back to the circus with all the dumb tired jokes and banter
Hearing so many songs from Mike's album- they are just terrible.
Stamos- He played most of show with them.  I don't mind him on 4th guitar, but when he drums instead of Cowsill, everything falls flat.  He has no sense of meter and is more concerned about twirling a drum stick in between tom hits than keeping solid time. 
Do It Again- I already mentioned Mike's album cuts, but this gets its own mention. Just...no.  Please.  Play the real version.  No one in the crowd knows or cares who Mark McGrath is.  Some people around me were quite confused.
No Brian E- Nothing against Randall who is great, but Brian's vocals on I Can Hear Music and Then I Kissed Her in 2016 elevated the whole show.  His absence is felt, even though during his entire run with band, his vocals were criminally underutilized.
The theremin substitute sounds on Good Vibrations-  Horrendous.  Sounded like a child's toy.  Clearly a choice to make it sound like this instead of what I've heard previously.  Inexplicable.  I hope someone posts a video online.
THE SOUND MIX- was the worst I've heard at a BB related show.  Ever. 
The videos played during about half the songs are of teenagers in bikinis, with no sense of irony.  It's pretty icky.



Did Christian Love sing lead on God Only Knows instead of the Carl video? 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on March 05, 2018, 07:45:34 AM
I strongly dislike the intrusion of a poseur into what should be a balanced vocal team. Hamming it up for 1 song is ok...but not for the whole of their set. And displacing a great drummer and vocalist for way too many numbers. My lifelong experience of being in vocal groups is that modesty , blending in every sense and community are required. Not a "star" from the acting world.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on March 05, 2018, 07:48:28 AM
As for Stamos being plugged in or not, it's hard to tell. In the video of the concert in Washington from 2017 (with no Bruce), when they're playing Little Honda, Stamos is clearly playing the wrong chords. Although, there's a clip of him playing Forever, where his guitar is clearly audible. I suppose he really plays when he knows the songs, and turns down the volume when he doesn't know the song.

And I totally agree about the drums. He's a fine drummer. Bar bar band ability. Definitely not legendary rock band ability, like Cowsill, where he has solid time, energy, and really just brings it every night.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: wilsonart1 on March 05, 2018, 09:00:12 AM
Minnesota State Fair added Aug 27th and a digital download of Mike's  (whatever) is included.  This one's a tough one, I've never seen the group since Carl passed.  Thinking about going this time.  I'm getting soft in my old age.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 05, 2018, 09:44:26 AM
I've said it before; I have no doubt that John Stamos is a true, huge fan of the Beach Boys.

There are a million ways he could do something good with that. A (relatively) famous person who is a huge BB fan? Awesome. He shouldn't be on stage (whether with Mike's band or C50). What people like him should be doing is helping the cause *as a high profile fan.* He should be helping to fund a documentary on the band (though don't give him any editorial control), he should be egging Mike and the other guys on to open up the archives. He could be championing a DVD boxed set of old concerts; Stamos could even tape a video opening introduction piece or something.

So many ways he could use his celebrity and wealth for good for BB fans. Instead, he indulges himself and his passing interest in being a weekend rock star.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: All Summer Long on March 05, 2018, 09:48:50 AM
I've said it before; I have no doubt that John Stamos is a true, huge fan of the Beach Boys.

There are a million ways he could do something good with that. A (relatively) famous person who is a huge BB fan? Awesome. He shouldn't be on stage (whether with Mike's band or C50). What people like him should be doing is helping the cause *as a high profile fan.* He should be helping to fund a documentary on the band (though don't give him any editorial control), he should be egging Mike and the other guys on to open up the archives. He could be championing a DVD boxed set of old concerts; Stamos could even tape a video opening introduction piece or something.

So many ways he could use his celebrity and wealth for good for BB fans. Instead, he indulges himself and his passing interest in being a weekend rock star.

He could also work for another C50????  ;D 

Ok I know it's impossible but at least he tries to show his love of the band, even if he might do it the wrong way.

In other news, are Randall and Christian back permanently?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 05, 2018, 10:33:29 AM
Minnesota State Fair added Aug 27th and a digital download of Mike's  (whatever) is included.  This one's a tough one, I've never seen the group since Carl passed.  Thinking about going this time.  I'm getting soft in my old age.

I would say if you're thinking about it, do it. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Kid Presentable on March 05, 2018, 12:44:41 PM
I've said it before; I have no doubt that John Stamos is a true, huge fan of the Beach Boys.

There are a million ways he could do something good with that. A (relatively) famous person who is a huge BB fan? Awesome. He shouldn't be on stage (whether with Mike's band or C50). What people like him should be doing is helping the cause *as a high profile fan.* He should be helping to fund a documentary on the band (though don't give him any editorial control), he should be egging Mike and the other guys on to open up the archives. He could be championing a DVD boxed set of old concerts; Stamos could even tape a video opening introduction piece or something.

So many ways he could use his celebrity and wealth for good for BB fans. Instead, he indulges himself and his passing interest in being a weekend rock star.

Put yourself in John Stamos' shoes for a minute.  Realizing your pros and cons as a musician, status as a celebrity, knowledge that plenty of casual fans probably think it's awesome, and overall deep devotion to your favorite band.  There is no way you wouldn't do EXACTLY what he's doing!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 05, 2018, 01:32:14 PM
I think JS could do a lot worse than watch some clips of Al, Carl and Dave for a lesson in Beach Boys stage presentation. Just saying.  ;)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 05, 2018, 01:39:26 PM
I've said it before; I have no doubt that John Stamos is a true, huge fan of the Beach Boys.

There are a million ways he could do something good with that. A (relatively) famous person who is a huge BB fan? Awesome. He shouldn't be on stage (whether with Mike's band or C50). What people like him should be doing is helping the cause *as a high profile fan.* He should be helping to fund a documentary on the band (though don't give him any editorial control), he should be egging Mike and the other guys on to open up the archives. He could be championing a DVD boxed set of old concerts; Stamos could even tape a video opening introduction piece or something.

So many ways he could use his celebrity and wealth for good for BB fans. Instead, he indulges himself and his passing interest in being a weekend rock star.

Put yourself in John Stamos' shoes for a minute.  Realizing your pros and cons as a musician, status as a celebrity, knowledge that plenty of casual fans probably think it's awesome, and overall deep devotion to your favorite band.  There is no way you wouldn't do EXACTLY what he's doing!

Meh. That's *exactly* the argument Stamos himself used in an interview a couple of years ago where he discussed this very topic. He acknowledged that if he were in the audience, he would find himself annoying! (His analogy was to watching Scott Baio jump on stage with the band). He basically just said "Who *wouldn't* jump at the chance to play on stage?" My answer is, plenty of people. And I'm not talking about a fan being invited on stage for five minutes to dance. I'm talking joining the band for a full set of songs, and to *take over* on drums at various points, sing lead vocals, etc.

If Stamos occasionally showed up and played bongos on "Kokomo", it wouldn't be such a big deal. But he does whatever he wants on stage. He has carte blanche. It's embarrassing for any band that actually wants to be taken seriously. Which probably explains the cold reaction Stamos got in 2012 when he pulled the schtick, and why he was quickly relegated to observer.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on March 05, 2018, 03:38:48 PM
Yeah, I'd have no problem with Stamos if his drumming was kept to maybe a song or two, and if he didn't parade around the stage and steal the show, or at least attempt to. Can you imagine if Randell Kirsch or Jeff Foskett started meandering around the stage, or if John Cowsill stood up every five minutes while playing drums??? (about the standing thing, Stamos loves to stand, presumably to be seen, when he plays the drums. He's been doing it since '86 when the BBs first were on his show. It drives me crazy)

Look, If I were a celebrity I would absolutely do what he does! Who wouldn't? Get up on stage and rock with your favorite band? Get to share the stage with a legendary rock star? It would be incredible!!! However, I do totally agree that he could be doing more to promote the band (documentary, archival release, etc...) than just having a SIP poster in Full House and doing all the DIA17 shtick he did.

I can relate to John in the sense that he's a huge BBs fan that loves to perform. However, I think some of the things he does on stage is a little tasteless.


On another note, something that always bothers me is when people criticize Mike or John for not mentioning Dennis when they play Forever. I love when they do, however. But, can you imagine how annoying it would get if Mike talked about Brian after every song? You'd be hearing "Here's a song written by Brian Wilson" before almost every song they play. Given Mike's general personal beefs with Dennis, I'd say having him on the video almost every night is pretty cool of him. It pays respect to Dennis, even though he doesn't go out of his way to acknowledge it, like he does for Carl, or even George Harrison!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on March 05, 2018, 04:23:08 PM
Glad I am not alone in finding Stamos antics interfering with a coherent band which I have followed for........a very long time. Thing is, his schtick is " me, me, me ....not B B B". A guest is just that. A guest. Not the star. Not to take over.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on March 05, 2018, 04:25:32 PM
Also, someone pointed out that Jeff has been having falsetto problems, and hasn't been singing in the register as much. I would not mind at all for those parts to go back to Randell, and have Jeff sing in his mid-range voice


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on March 05, 2018, 04:32:14 PM
Randell...and Scott...are both good in falsetto parts. Oddly , I felt Jeff had been in best voice since rejoining the BB, although recent youtubes appear to show someone who has backed off somewhat


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 05, 2018, 08:33:33 PM
Minnesota State Fair added Aug 27th and a digital download of Mike's  (whatever) is included.  This one's a tough one, I've never seen the group since Carl passed.  Thinking about going this time.  I'm getting soft in my old age.

I would say if you're thinking about it, do it. 

If you haven't seen the group post-Carl, a state fair show is NOT the time to hop back in. You'll get a about 20-25 of the greatest hits that you've probably heard before surrounding by a bunch of sweaty country bumpkins claiming that Bruce Johnston is Brian Wilson and wandering when Uncle Jessie comes on. I really have nothing good to say about shows of this caliber. I'm not knocking the band. I'm knocking the circumstances of this show. If The Beach Boys were playing the Maryland State Fair, I would not buy tickets. I MIGHT park across York Rd. and roll down my windows.  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Kid Presentable on March 05, 2018, 11:43:21 PM
Going to an outdoor BB concert surrounded by a bunch of country bumpkins > Going to a BB concert surrounded by people like us

Going to a Brian Wilson concert surrounded by a bunch of country bumpkins < Going to a Brian Wilson concert surrounded by people like us


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 06, 2018, 05:40:24 AM
Minnesota State Fair added Aug 27th and a digital download of Mike's  (whatever) is included.  This one's a tough one, I've never seen the group since Carl passed.  Thinking about going this time.  I'm getting soft in my old age.

I would say if you're thinking about it, do it. 

If you haven't seen the group post-Carl, a state fair show is NOT the time to hop back in. You'll get a about 20-25 of the greatest hits that you've probably heard before surrounding by a bunch of sweaty country bumpkins claiming that Bruce Johnston is Brian Wilson and wandering when Uncle Jessie comes on. I really have nothing good to say about shows of this caliber. I'm not knocking the band. I'm knocking the circumstances of this show. If The Beach Boys were playing the Maryland State Fair, I would not buy tickets. I MIGHT park across York Rd. and roll down my windows.  :lol

Good point, I didn't notice that the poster said it was a fair. 

The only way I'm going to a Mike and Bruce show at another one of those summer shows is if they play Ocean City's Sunfest again.   We found, if you stand my the Inlet Parking Lot, you can peer into the tent, and basically see the show for me.   We caught Eddie Money two years ago the same way. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Sunflower70 on March 06, 2018, 05:58:16 AM
So are Randall and Christian back permanently??


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on March 06, 2018, 07:19:56 AM
Well, with Brian now gone, and if the rumors are true about  Fosket's voice problems, it would seem that both Christian and Randal could be back for good.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 06, 2018, 07:33:49 AM
Well, with Brian now gone, and if the rumors are true about  Fosket's voice problems, it would seem that both Christian and Randal could be back for good.

I know Jeff is in his early 60s, and he's been out there for 170 or so shows a year trying to emulate the perfect falsetto of a guy in his 20s.   No easy task. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 06, 2018, 09:25:50 AM
Just to help future board searches and whatnot, I'd like to mention that his name is spelled RANDELL Kirsch.

As for his membership, unless Mike plans on finding another different permanent replacement on bass, I would guess Kirsche is back full-time. Brian E. has seemingly permanently left the road.

As for Christian Love, I'm not sure what's going on. As previously mentioned, it's ironic that Mike complained about the size of the C50 band in relation to his "lean" touring operation, because it has now ballooned to a 9-piece band compared to the 7-piece of most the last decade or so (going to 8-piece when the sax guy was added a couple years ago).

I suppose the possibilities include Mike simply deciding to spring for a 9-piece band, or Christian just sitting in for shows for a few months, or indeed Christian essentially warming up into coming back to replace someone else.

I can't fathom Foskett leaving; he's essentially Mike's right-hand man of recent years, making public appearances with him, etc. His jumping to Mike's band was the most "political" move in the BB orb in quite some time, so I can't imagine he'd do all that only to spend a few years in the band.

I guess we'll find out.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on March 06, 2018, 06:24:51 PM
Think Foskett will be transitioning to more mid range parts as time goes by. He is going nowhere.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 06, 2018, 06:29:18 PM
His scheme to get back at BW by getting the BBs name from Mike continues... ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: All Summer Long on March 06, 2018, 06:51:54 PM
Just to help future board searches and whatnot, I'd like to mention that his name is spelled RANDELL Kirsche.

As for his membership, unless Mike plans on finding another different permanent replacement on bass, I would guess Kirsche is back full-time. Brian E. has seemingly permanently left the road.

As for Christian Love, I'm not sure what's going on. As previously mentioned, it's ironic that Mike complained about the size of the C50 band in relation to his "lean" touring operation, because it has now ballooned to a 9-piece band compared to the 7-piece of most the last decade or so (going to 8-piece when the sax guy was added a couple years ago).

I suppose the possibilities include Mike simply deciding to spring for a 9-piece band, or Christian just sitting in for shows for a few months, or indeed Christian essentially warming up into coming back to replace someone else.

I can't fathom Foskett leaving; he's essentially Mike's right-hand man of recent years, making public appearances with him, etc. His jumping to Mike's band was the most "political" move in the BB orb in quite some time, so I can't imagine he'd do all that only to spend a few years in the band.

I guess we'll find out.

Thanks Hey Jude about Randell's name, I had seen it spelled different ways on different websites. The reason I asked a few times was that I'm surprised he would come back after (I'm assuming, correct me if I'm wrong) Mike canned him to bring in Brian Eichenberger.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on March 06, 2018, 07:28:14 PM
Perhaps Jeff will transition to mid-range, and have Randell take over the falsetto. That would be fine by me. Hell, that would be great with me! I love Jeff's mid-range and Randell's falsetto. Great singers, those guys.

I'm curious as to who's doing the heavy lifting rhythm guitar vs the "icing on the cake" Al-esque guitar parts. I'm assuming Foskett is playing as the primary rhythm guitarist, with Christian being the "icing on the cake" , but I very well could be wrong, because Christian played solid rhythm guitar with Mike and Bruce for many years.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 06, 2018, 07:47:13 PM
I would guess that Christian is just doing a handful of shows as he has since his departure. I seriously doubt he'll be on steady once summer dates pick up from June onward. I also get the feeling that Randell isn't around for long, but is less temporary than Christian, if that makes sense. Mike had no problem letting him go for a younger voice (and got a dig in at BW while he was at it) and I have no doubt he'd do it again.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: GoodVibrations33 on March 06, 2018, 09:25:51 PM
Just to help future board searches and whatnot, I'd like to mention that his name is spelled RANDELL Kirsche.

I think his last name is spelled Kirsch.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 06, 2018, 11:19:53 PM
Quote
Just to help future board searches and whatnot, I'd like to mention that his name is spelled
This is smart thing to say, I didn't look at it like that.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: lastofmykind on March 07, 2018, 09:56:26 AM
Having talked to C Love i get the impression he is back full time.  IMO his voice adds a balance to the middle third harmonies that was not there since he left. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 07, 2018, 10:32:47 AM
Having talked to C Love i get the impression he is back full time.  IMO his voice adds a balance to the middle third harmonies that was not there since he left. 

I agree. His phrasing and tone reminds me of Carl


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: acedecade75 on March 07, 2018, 01:23:20 PM
 Does anyone know why Brian E left the road?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 07, 2018, 01:36:53 PM
Does anyone know why Brian E left the road?

https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeLoveOFCL/status/963128496771031041


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Eric Aniversario on March 09, 2018, 10:58:26 AM
Word is that Christian is back full time, and that Randell is unfortunately just back temporarily. I'm not sure what the reason is.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 09, 2018, 08:44:00 PM
Going by Mike's own logic, I fail to see the reasoning behind having Christian Love, Scott Totten, and Jeffrey Foskett. UNLESS, one of them were to transition to bass...but I can't really see any of them doing that.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: barsone on March 11, 2018, 09:30:15 PM
I saw the band last night in Thousand Oaks, CA.  Quick background on me: Never saw the BBs in their heyday live, but have seen all different touring versions of BBs, BW and Al's bands since the late '80s.  Up until 2016, I could take or leave Mike's band.  I was happy that he continued to tour and bring the music to so many fans, but (especially compared to Brian's band) I thought the concerts themselves were quite forgettable.  I would still see them when I could (for me hearing this music live performed by ANYONE is a treat), but never left eager to see them again.  That all changed in 2016 when I saw Mike and his band at this same venue in Thousand Oaks.  The band was tight, the harmonies were killer, the setlist had some unexpected deep cuts and the vibe was excellent.  It felt like Mike and Co. had upped their game.  Still a very different concert experience than seeing Brian and his band, but awesome in its own way.  Seeing Jeff taking some great leads, along with Scott and Brian E to me felt like the spirit of what the Beach Boys music is and can be moving forward. I was unable to make their show last year at same venue, but was thrilled to see them again last night.  It was, however, quite a letdown.

Highlights-
Christian Love performed the whole set with the band and sounded fantastic on God Only Knows and Good Vibrations.  I wish he would've sung more leads.
Bruce's falsetto at the end of Fun Fun Fun was quite impressive and he wasn't doubled by anyone else.  He also had a couple of other great stand out falsetto vocal moments.
Scott sounded lovely on Betsy, and his lead playing is top notch.
Jeff sounded great on Darlin'.

Lowlights-
Backing vocals- I'm not sure what is going on, but Jeff selectively sings falsetto now.  Sometimes someone else is on top of the stack, but other times it's just empty (or the sound mixer is asleep at the wheel, which is quite possible based on how terrible the mix was last night).  When Jeff did sing falsetto, it sounded pretty weak (though he sounded great full voice on Darlin').  A friend saw them in October last year and Jeff didn't sing at all, so I wonder if he is having voice issues.
Mike's schtick- which had toned way down the last time I saw them-- last night felt like we were back to the circus with all the dumb tired jokes and banter
Hearing so many songs from Mike's album- they are just terrible.
Stamos- He played most of show with them.  I don't mind him on 4th guitar, but when he drums instead of Cowsill, everything falls flat.  He has no sense of meter and is more concerned about twirling a drum stick in between tom hits than keeping solid time. 
Do It Again- I already mentioned Mike's album cuts, but this gets its own mention. Just...no.  Please.  Play the real version.  No one in the crowd knows or cares who Mark McGrath is.  Some people around me were quite confused.
No Brian E- Nothing against Randall who is great, but Brian's vocals on I Can Hear Music and Then I Kissed Her in 2016 elevated the whole show.  His absence is felt, even though during his entire run with band, his vocals were criminally underutilized.
The theremin substitute sounds on Good Vibrations-  Horrendous.  Sounded like a child's toy.  Clearly a choice to make it sound like this instead of what I've heard previously.  Inexplicable.  I hope someone posts a video online.
THE SOUND MIX- was the worst I've heard at a BB related show.  Ever. 
The videos played during about half the songs are of teenagers in bikinis, with no sense of irony.  It's pretty icky.


Just back from a three week trip and catching up.  I saw DC310 post and it did make me chuckle.  About three hours after he posted, I saw the matinee show of Mike and the band in Palm Desert.  Though in a classy venue (McCallum Hall), it was a typical boring show (ala casino) as NO ONE stood up for the entire show until the Fun Fun Fun encore.  Here's my thoughts and observations....

1.  I was in the balcony but the sound was awful.  I was about 40 feet from the sound guy and wanted to go over and ask "are you listening??"   Granted I'm always up front whether its a Brian or Mike show but this was awful.  In particular Bruce's mic was way off....during his Wendy solo, I thought he was going to break his neck with the violent turns to his stage right with his hands outstretched and tehn suddenly his voiced appears 10x louder.

2. My sense is Mike is doing a little less heavy lifting.  With JF doing his Darlin and Don't Worry Baby, Bruce doing Wendy, Christian did God Only Knows and Good Vibrations, and ST did his songs, my sense was Mike did a bit less than when I last saw him in Seattle in last year.  And they also had a second show to do later that evening so some of this makes sense.

3. Thankfully no Stamos !!

4. I was reading this blog but not posting on my trip.  I had read where there was speculation that Jeff was doing less falsetto due to voice issues.  Kirsch did it all from my vantage point.  Did Jeff double up with him at times....maybe some.   Earlier on this page, those in the know thought Randell was only back temporarily.  Just not sure what the plan is going forward.

5.  Everyone here on SmileySmile has their own opinion, but I feel Brian Eichelberger was a HUGE addition to this band.  I had a few PM's with a person in the group who felt the EXACT same way.  BE could do some falsetto but also handle his own level in the stack. I feel he will be sorely missed as the reviews.  Think about it everyone.....BE leaves and Mike adds 2 guys back to the group.  Something is now missing IMO.

6.  Christian voice is a lot like his dad's.  During his solo's (especially God Only Knows), his lower notes are very strong and he strains a bit as he goes up.  I guess it just tells us how good and beautiful Carl truly was singing this song.

7.  DC310 hit the head of the nail perfectly.  For the most part, the videos are horrendous....This McGrath guy obviously wants to be the next Stamos personality associated with the band.  Even the grey hairs all around were asking who this guy was......all kinda sad really. 

8.  I've always thought Mike truly didn't care for Dennis but they sing "Do You Wanna Dance" with Dennis' voice.  Basically substituting Carl's old God Only Knows lead (to Christian) and then does a Dennis voice-over.....Just seemed really strange to me.

9.  Again DC310 nails it.  God these new remakes are just AWFUL.  Do It Again is bad, but wait till you hear Sloop John B.  Either the sound was so way off it was unintelligible....OR....this remake has just butchered more ways than one a true Beach Boys classic.

10.   Noted no Jacquelyn Love dancing with her husband to Surfer Girl.....Maybe Palm Desert being close to Tahoe, she may have gone home which would be understandable to take some time off the road.

Yes I went....The tickets were free.  Given to me in the Men's Grill at a golf club 2 hours prior to the show.  After seeing what I felt was a great show  in Nov 2016....This was a true downer.....the remakes.....the sound issues.....no energy in the venue.....oh well....concert 39 is history !!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 12, 2018, 06:11:29 AM
Going by Mike's own logic, I fail to see the reasoning behind having Christian Love, Scott Totten, and Jeffrey Foskett. UNLESS, one of them were to transition to bass...but I can't really see any of them doing that.

Yes, assuming Kirsch is truly temporary, then they'll need to either have one of those guitarist switch over to bass, or hire in another bass player.

The only member of those three that we've really ever seen play any bass on stage is Totten, who played bass for at least one tune ("Pet Sounds") during C50. But I don't particularly envision any of those guys taking over on bass. I suppose one scenario would be Christian Love taking some time (hence having Kirsch back temporarily) to learn the bass parts.

What seems odd is to not simply have Kirsch back full-time (which would be tremendously easier, he can sing and play bass and was with the band for over a decade), because it probably isn't super easy to find someone who can sing in the harmony stack well and also play bass. Which may explain why they brought Christian Love back to fill out the mid-range (with Foskett and Totten now exclusively doing the higher parts), and Kirsch in to handle bass. But Kirsch is also singing I'm guessing.

All of this is also odd considering Mike's bottom-line emphasis in terms of overheard costs. *That* aspect would strongly suggest he's going to have one of those guitarists switch over to bass.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on March 13, 2018, 08:03:35 AM
The Legendary Beach Boys will be playing the Freeman Stage in Selbyville DE, on August 3rd.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 13, 2018, 08:09:53 AM
The Legendary Beach Boys will be playing the Freeman Stage in Selbyville DE, on August 3rd.

I was hoping they'd play OC Sunfest this year (it can be checked out for free), but days after Ocean City announced their Sunfest lineup, this show was announced. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: All Summer Long on March 13, 2018, 10:26:18 AM
Going by Mike's own logic, I fail to see the reasoning behind having Christian Love, Scott Totten, and Jeffrey Foskett. UNLESS, one of them were to transition to bass...but I can't really see any of them doing that.

Yes, assuming Kirsch is truly temporary, then they'll need to either have one of those guitarist switch over to bass, or hire in another bass player.

The only member of those three that we've really ever seen play any bass on stage is Totten, who played bass for at least one tune ("Pet Sounds") during C50. But I don't particularly envision any of those guys taking over on bass. I suppose one scenario would be Christian Love taking some time (hence having Kirsch back temporarily) to learn the bass parts.

What seems odd is to not simply have Kirsch back full-time (which would be tremendously easier, he can sing and play bass and was with the band for over a decade), because it probably isn't super easy to find someone who can sing in the harmony stack well and also play bass. Which may explain why they brought Christian Love back to fill out the mid-range (with Foskett and Totten now exclusively doing the higher parts), and Kirsch in to handle bass. But Kirsch is also singing I'm guessing.

All of this is also odd considering Mike's bottom-line emphasis in terms of overheard costs. *That* aspect would strongly suggest he's going to have one of those guitarists switch over to bass.

That seems like its the most likely option (moving Christian to bass) because of Mike's complaints over costs and the size of the C50 band. I don't think Foskett can play bass, so we can count that one out. And I don't know if moving Scott Totten to bass would be the best option. He is a great lead guitarist and that would hurt the band; moving him to lead guitar would require moving Foskett to lead guitar and I don't think Foskett plays lead anymore (the last time I'm guessing he did this was around 1990.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 13, 2018, 11:36:09 AM
Going by Mike's own logic, I fail to see the reasoning behind having Christian Love, Scott Totten, and Jeffrey Foskett. UNLESS, one of them were to transition to bass...but I can't really see any of them doing that.

Yes, assuming Kirsch is truly temporary, then they'll need to either have one of those guitarist switch over to bass, or hire in another bass player.

The only member of those three that we've really ever seen play any bass on stage is Totten, who played bass for at least one tune ("Pet Sounds") during C50. But I don't particularly envision any of those guys taking over on bass. I suppose one scenario would be Christian Love taking some time (hence having Kirsch back temporarily) to learn the bass parts.

What seems odd is to not simply have Kirsch back full-time (which would be tremendously easier, he can sing and play bass and was with the band for over a decade), because it probably isn't super easy to find someone who can sing in the harmony stack well and also play bass. Which may explain why they brought Christian Love back to fill out the mid-range (with Foskett and Totten now exclusively doing the higher parts), and Kirsch in to handle bass. But Kirsch is also singing I'm guessing.

All of this is also odd considering Mike's bottom-line emphasis in terms of overheard costs. *That* aspect would strongly suggest he's going to have one of those guitarists switch over to bass.

That seems like its the most likely option (moving Christian to bass) because of Mike's complaints over costs and the size of the C50 band. I don't think Foskett can play bass, so we can count that one out. And I don't know if moving Scott Totten to bass would be the best option. He is a great lead guitarist and that would hurt the band; moving him to lead guitar would require moving Foskett to lead guitar and I don't think Foskett plays lead anymore (the last time I'm guessing he did this was around 1990.

While it's not quite as easy as just telling a guitarist to switch over to bass, I would imagine both Totten and Foskett *could* play bass if they wanted to, especially after taking some time to fully learn all the nuanced parts. Similarly, I think Foskett could play all the leads (he used to do leads in the 80s, and sometimes in Brian's band). So they all have the ability to move around. But my guess would be neither Foskett nor Totten would want to switch over full-time to bass. So that leaves us indeed at a best guess of either Christian Love taking time to learn the parts, or hiring in someone else. If they keep Christian Love in the band but also hire in a new bass player, then they would probably be able to cast a wider net and find someone who plays bass but doesn't need sing. But then that gets us back to wondering why, if he doesn't need to reduce the size of the band, he doesn't just keep Kirsch in then.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: All Summer Long on March 13, 2018, 03:20:55 PM
Going by Mike's own logic, I fail to see the reasoning behind having Christian Love, Scott Totten, and Jeffrey Foskett. UNLESS, one of them were to transition to bass...but I can't really see any of them doing that.

Yes, assuming Kirsch is truly temporary, then they'll need to either have one of those guitarist switch over to bass, or hire in another bass player.

The only member of those three that we've really ever seen play any bass on stage is Totten, who played bass for at least one tune ("Pet Sounds") during C50. But I don't particularly envision any of those guys taking over on bass. I suppose one scenario would be Christian Love taking some time (hence having Kirsch back temporarily) to learn the bass parts.

What seems odd is to not simply have Kirsch back full-time (which would be tremendously easier, he can sing and play bass and was with the band for over a decade), because it probably isn't super easy to find someone who can sing in the harmony stack well and also play bass. Which may explain why they brought Christian Love back to fill out the mid-range (with Foskett and Totten now exclusively doing the higher parts), and Kirsch in to handle bass. But Kirsch is also singing I'm guessing.

All of this is also odd considering Mike's bottom-line emphasis in terms of overheard costs. *That* aspect would strongly suggest he's going to have one of those guitarists switch over to bass.

That seems like its the most likely option (moving Christian to bass) because of Mike's complaints over costs and the size of the C50 band. I don't think Foskett can play bass, so we can count that one out. And I don't know if moving Scott Totten to bass would be the best option. He is a great lead guitarist and that would hurt the band; moving him to lead guitar would require moving Foskett to lead guitar and I don't think Foskett plays lead anymore (the last time I'm guessing he did this was around 1990.

While it's not quite as easy as just telling a guitarist to switch over to bass, I would imagine both Totten and Foskett *could* play bass if they wanted to, especially after taking some time to fully learn all the nuanced parts. Similarly, I think Foskett could play all the leads (he used to do leads in the 80s, and sometimes in Brian's band). So they all have the ability to move around. But my guess would be neither Foskett nor Totten would want to switch over full-time to bass. So that leaves us indeed at a best guess of either Christian Love taking time to learn the parts, or hiring in someone else. If they keep Christian Love in the band but also hire in a new bass player, then they would probably be able to cast a wider net and find someone who plays bass but doesn't need sing. But then that gets us back to wondering why, if he doesn't need to reduce the size of the band, he doesn't just keep Kirsch in then.

Of course. They probably could both play bass.  I've heard Foskett play lead in the 80's on YouTube (I wasn't around then), and I love his solo on, I think, their live version of GTO).  I just don't see Foskett wanting to play lead or bass.  Didn't know he occasionally played lead with Brian.  Also, not saying that Foskett wouldn't be able to play bass, but it would hurt the band because he's such a good lead guitarist. 

Yeah, the question is does Mike want to keep the band that big, knowing his past statements/concerns?  If he does, keeping Kirsch would be easier, if both he and Mike are up for it.  But I wonder if Kirsch would even want to saying Mike canned him for Eichenberger (correct me if I'm wrong), and people speculated back then it was done on purpose to hurt Brian by hiring his newest falsetto singer/bass player.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Wiggy on March 13, 2018, 05:27:34 PM
Umm, didn’t Bruce play bass live (admittedly a long time ago)? It’s not like he contributes a huge amount on keyboards...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 13, 2018, 05:35:42 PM
Umm, didn’t Bruce play bass live (admittedly a long time ago)? It’s not like he contributes a huge amount on keyboards...

Bruce wore a bass on stage on many occasions...and on more than one, he even plucked it a few times!

But seriously...his instrumental contributions onstage have been non-existent since the early 70's. He clearly doesn't care about it anymore. He's a damn fine pianist...it will forever be mystifying.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Wiggy on March 13, 2018, 05:52:43 PM
Umm, didn’t Bruce play bass live (admittedly a long time ago)? It’s not like he contributes a huge amount on keyboards...

Bruce wore a bass on stage on many occasions...and on more than one, he even plucked it a few times!

But seriously...his instrumental contributions onstage have been non-existent since the early 70's. He clearly doesn't care about it anymore. He's a damn fine pianist...it will forever be mystifying.

I agree totally. Could say the same about his songwriting too (he has a Grammy, apparently  :) )


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on March 13, 2018, 06:24:17 PM
Maybe Brian E will be back sooner rather than later so Kirsch is just filling in for him.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 13, 2018, 07:33:17 PM
Maybe Brian E will be back sooner rather than later so Kirsch is just filling in for him.

He left the road because him and his wife are expecting a child. I wouldn't expect him back anytime soon. Odds are Mike will be dead by the time the kid is grown...if we're being blunt...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Wrightfan on March 14, 2018, 08:11:10 AM
The UPAC Facebook (which is close to me) made a post saying "Often called America's first rock band."  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 14, 2018, 09:10:26 AM
Maybe Brian E will be back sooner rather than later so Kirsch is just filling in for him.

I don't think Mike would go to the trouble of announcing a backing band member's departure if that member was just taking  a leave of absence for a few months.

I know Mike being super active on Facebook, etc. is something that has only occurred in the last five or so years, so I can't even recall if he announced Christian Love's departure when Foskett joined in 2014. I believe Mike did announce Foskett joining, but weirdly I don't recall him "announcing" Christian's departure.

Someone posted here back around that time that Christian's departure was not necessarily the most harmonious. Couple that with Kirsch seemingly being canned in order to bring Eichenberger on board (although at least Kirsch got a polite announcement of his departure, followed within minutes or hours by the announcement that Eichenberger had joined), and it's certainly interesting that both Christian and Randell are back in any capacity.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Eric Aniversario on March 17, 2018, 11:00:35 PM
Whoever the new bassist is, he started tonight. I saw pictures on a Facebook post. I know that Randell is back playing with his old band with Bobby Figueroa, Ed Carter and Probyn Gregory this upcoming week.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Wrightfan on March 19, 2018, 04:59:45 AM
Anyone have a setlist for last night's Kingston show? Just curious.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: All Summer Long on March 19, 2018, 09:02:13 AM
Anyone have a setlist for last night's Kingston show? Just curious.

Setlist.fm is down, so I can't help you  :(


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on March 19, 2018, 01:19:07 PM
Here’s the set from a friend over at B.B. Britain

Surfin' Safari
Catch a Wave
Little Honda
Do It Again
Surfin' U.S.A.
Surfer Girl
Getcha Back
Good to My Baby
You're So Good to Me
Dance, Dance, Dance
In My Room
All the Love in Paris
Darlin'
Why Do Fools Fall in Love
When I Grow Up (to Be a Man)
Be True to Your School
Ballad of Ole' Betsy
Don't Worry Baby
Little Deuce Coupe
409
Shut Down
I Get Around
*INTERMISSION*
California Dreamin'
Sloop John B
Wouldn't It Be Nice
California Girls
Disney Girls
God Only Knows
Pisces
Cool Head
Unleash the Love
Do You Wanna Dance?
Help Me, Rhonda
Kokomo
Good Vibrations

Barbara Ann
Fun, Fun, Fun

Based on his review it seems the new bass players name is Keith. Also the set on my opinion is getting stale they’ve been playing the same songs for 2-3 years now they don’t even swap a couple out show to show, maybe it’s because of the new bass player


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on March 19, 2018, 03:47:19 PM
That's a damn good setlist in my opinion. Pretty standard for a M&B show, but with songs like In My Room and Betsy, I can't complain.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: B.E. on March 19, 2018, 04:00:52 PM
I can’t help but notice more Mike solo songs than ‘67-80 BBs songs (and that’s including the less-than-authentic Do It Again in the BBs category).


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 19, 2018, 07:08:58 PM
That's the standard with a couple semi-non-standards thrown in...You're SO Good To Me, Good To My Baby, and In My Room...but even those three are "regular irregular" songs.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 19, 2018, 08:07:01 PM
Early BBs songs are solo songs to Mike the egomaniac....


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 20, 2018, 05:47:36 AM
That's a damn good setlist in my opinion. Pretty standard for a M&B show, but with songs like In My Room and Betsy, I can't complain.

I think it's a good setlist for anyone who hasn't seen Mike's band in concert.   


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on March 20, 2018, 06:14:27 AM
That's a damn good setlist in my opinion. Pretty standard for a M&B show, but with songs like In My Room and Betsy, I can't complain.

I think it's a good setlist for anyone who hasn't seen Mike's band in concert.   

Agreed that’s more what i meant. I’ve seen them enough where aside from Aren’t You Glad and All I Wanna Do which I’ve seen in the last few years live there really isn’t anything here making me want to spend my money and see them again. Which isn’t a criticism just how i feel, on the opposite side Brian is always incorporating a surprise or two every time i see him.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 20, 2018, 06:31:42 AM
That's a damn good setlist in my opinion. Pretty standard for a M&B show, but with songs like In My Room and Betsy, I can't complain.

I think it's a good setlist for anyone who hasn't seen Mike's band in concert.   

Agreed that’s more what i meant. I’ve seen them enough where aside from Aren’t You Glad and All I Wanna Do which I’ve seen in the last few years live there really isn’t anything here making me want to spend my money and see them again. Which isn’t a criticism just how i feel, on the opposite side Brian is always incorporating a surprise or two every time i see him.

My 2018 BB budget is being spent on Al.   Mike's setlists are pretty meat and potatoes.   He changes a few songs, but I'm not paying money to see Brian do Pet Sounds again.   Maybe next year if he brings a different theme to my neck of the woods. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on March 21, 2018, 05:44:23 AM
I would have loved to have seen Al's show, but Easter Sunday in my area just didn't work. No real desire to see Mike's BB show; haven't seen them since Carl passed, other than twice on the 50th reunion tour. And as for Brian, as much as I love him and his band's performances, I'm done with the whole Pet Sounds tour. I've seen several shows already, and I think Brian's performance over the course of the last tour really went down hill a bit, with his speaking the songs of Pet Sounds rather than singing them lounge lizard style. Just really lacking.....I'd really rather just see the Greatest Hits show frankly.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 21, 2018, 01:03:23 PM
Mike and Bruce are returning to the AMT in Lancaster this August as they do at least once a year to rehash the same oldies for the same oldies. I'll pass. It is worth noting that this is the first year ticket prices have gone DOWN (a whole $10) despite the lineup increasing. I can see some gaps in the schedule in August where they could potentially come closer to the Baltimore area but it would take something really special for me to return after being verbally abused by Bruce last year, despite Mike and the entire rest of the band being excellent.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on March 22, 2018, 08:20:06 AM
I just bought cheap tickets (about half price) to go to their show tonight at the Luhrs Center in PA. I'm honestly only bothering because my girlfriend really wants to go, but based on recent shows there's not really anything too new I haven't seen. Aside from a new bass player and Christian singing God Only Knows, which i'll admit in the videos I've seen he sounds very solid on. But other than that i'm prepared for the same old meat and potatoes show, much more excited to see Al at Rams Head next week.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 22, 2018, 08:39:29 AM
I just bought cheap tickets (about half price) to go to their show tonight at the Luhrs Center in PA. I'm honestly only bothering because my girlfriend really wants to go, but based on recent shows there's not really anything too new I haven't seen. Aside from a new bass player and Christian singing God Only Knows, which i'll admit in the videos I've seen he sounds very solid on. But other than that i'm prepared for the same old meat and potatoes show, much more excited to see Al at Rams Head next week.

I wonder if they'll expand the setlist as the new / returning bandmembers get more comfortable.    When I saw them at the Lyric two years ago, it was a 43 (I think) song set. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 22, 2018, 11:00:17 AM
I just bought cheap tickets (about half price) to go to their show tonight at the Luhrs Center in PA. I'm honestly only bothering because my girlfriend really wants to go, but based on recent shows there's not really anything too new I haven't seen. Aside from a new bass player and Christian singing God Only Knows, which i'll admit in the videos I've seen he sounds very solid on. But other than that i'm prepared for the same old meat and potatoes show, much more excited to see Al at Rams Head next week.

I wonder if they'll expand the setlist as the new / returning bandmembers get more comfortable.    When I saw them at the Lyric two years ago, it was a 43 (I think) song set. 

That's correct. That show at the Lyric was probably the best I've ever seen Mike and Bruce give...still salty about "All I Wanna Do" getting cut.  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 22, 2018, 11:16:36 AM
I just bought cheap tickets (about half price) to go to their show tonight at the Luhrs Center in PA. I'm honestly only bothering because my girlfriend really wants to go, but based on recent shows there's not really anything too new I haven't seen. Aside from a new bass player and Christian singing God Only Knows, which i'll admit in the videos I've seen he sounds very solid on. But other than that i'm prepared for the same old meat and potatoes show, much more excited to see Al at Rams Head next week.

I wonder if they'll expand the setlist as the new / returning bandmembers get more comfortable.    When I saw them at the Lyric two years ago, it was a 43 (I think) song set. 

That's correct. That show at the Lyric was probably the best I've ever seen Mike and Bruce give...still salty about "All I Wanna Do" getting cut.  :lol

I honestly wish you'd never shared that All I Wanna Do was actually on the setlist only to get cut.   That's beyond disappointing and does slightly temper how much I enjoyed that show. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 22, 2018, 11:52:16 AM
On Al's live album, he literally crossed songs out on the back cover that he cut out!

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91mDJC2jmaL._SL1500_.jpg)

I always wondered if excising "Kokomo" so visibly was done purposely. Bummer about "You Still Believe In Me" though; the Wilson sisters sounded good on that on when they toured with Al.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on March 28, 2018, 11:09:45 AM
Aug 7 date added at Tioga Downs, NY


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 28, 2018, 11:15:03 AM
On Al's live album, he literally crossed songs out on the back cover that he cut out!

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91mDJC2jmaL._SL1500_.jpg)

I always wondered if excising "Kokomo" so visibly was done purposely. Bummer about "You Still Believe In Me" though; the Wilson sisters sounded good on that on when they toured with Al.

I've always wondered.   If this a picture of a setlist to a show where YSBIM and Kokomo were actually cut out, or were they both left off for length purposes?   If it was a time thing, I'd have gladly sacrificed Fun Fun Fun or Barbara Ann for YSBIM.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Wrightfan on March 28, 2018, 02:10:50 PM
Another new date: August 5th at Bethel, NY (the REAL site of Woodstock '69!)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Kid Presentable on March 28, 2018, 11:15:17 PM
Lol @ leaving in California Energy Blues as the show closer.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 29, 2018, 06:05:30 AM
Lol @ leaving in California Energy Blues as the show closer.

"California Energy Blues" was a studio track added as a "bonus track" to the CD.

If you look closely, it appears the back cover listing *is* from an actual concert-used setlist, but they've superimposed the bonus track name in the same font.

As for whether the scratched-out songs were scratched out for the show or for the CD, I'm not sure (and keep in mind Al did a run of like a week or two of shows in Las Vegas in late 1999, so the CD probably isn't from one single show), but I'd guess probably for the CD.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on March 29, 2018, 09:09:37 AM
I saw two M&B shows this past week. They were both, for the most part, excellent. I've stayed away from this board mostly because I absolutely can't stand the Mike vs. Brian bantering. I don't get how you can walk away from ANY Beach Boys related concert, if you truly love this music, and not have a good feeling in your heart.

Both bands are excellent, both feature original members of The Beach Boys, both make their audience happy. I'm gonna continue to see both for as long as possible.

(But even having said that - the Mark McGrath stuff needs to go, pronto).


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: KDS on March 29, 2018, 09:20:16 AM
I saw two M&B shows this past week. They were both, for the most part, excellent. I've stayed away from this board mostly because I absolutely can't stand the Mike vs. Brian bantering. I don't get how you can walk away from ANY Beach Boys related concert, if you truly love this music, and not have a good feeling in your heart.

Both bands are excellent, both feature original members of The Beach Boys, both make their audience happy. I'm gonna continue to see both for as long as possible.

(But even having said that - the Mark McGrath stuff needs to go, pronto).

In the past couple years, I've attended Brian shows, Mike's Beach Boys shows, and now an Al Storyteller show, and loved every one. 

But, I agree 100% about the Do It Again at Mike's shows.   Never has there been a concert in the history of music that was improved by a contribution by Mark McGrath.   


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: jeffh on March 29, 2018, 09:22:05 AM
I’m going to see  a great cover band in May in Hartford WI, “Sounds of Summer. “ They are on a national tour.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on March 29, 2018, 10:20:10 AM
Just checked them out on tbeir site. Ok,...but.the keyboard guy sings Brians parts.......so, how come the bass vocalist is suddenly on the high parts in the next tune?  They seem  reasonable....but, really, "tribute" = "theft" of intellectual property, image and artistry. Increasingly, I find this approach stifling new works and new ideas.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 29, 2018, 01:10:40 PM
Tribute bands have been around for eons. As long as they're properly advertised, there's nothing wrong with them. Some are awful, a few are great, a lot of them are okay.

Mike Love's tour is essentially a licensed tribute band.

It isn't low-budget tribute bands playing festivals that are stifling "new works and ideas." Talk to the myriad of huge bands/artists (including various iterations of "The Beach Boys" over the years) who toured for decades without creating much in the way of "new works."


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on March 29, 2018, 01:14:16 PM
I'm frankly surprised that Beach Boys tribute bands can get a decent amount of bookings considering there is an actual band using the "Beach Boys" name playing all year, every year, including some smaller market venues.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: “Big Daddy” on April 13, 2018, 07:37:56 PM
July 17: Interlochen, MI (http://tickets.interlochen.org/summer-arts-festival)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: acedecade75 on April 14, 2018, 11:52:41 AM
July 17: Interlochen, MI (http://tickets.interlochen.org/summer-arts-festival)

 Interlochen is a fantastic venue to see a show.  I wonder if they'll be doing the meet and greet packages for this show?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on April 23, 2018, 07:18:23 AM
Bethlehem PA Events Center will present The Beach Boys on Aug 14


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on April 28, 2018, 02:03:58 PM
The Boys will hit the stage on September 28 at Norsk Hostfest, in ND.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on April 28, 2018, 03:37:27 PM
There's the crucial smaller markets they know and love...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on May 01, 2018, 12:21:29 PM
Another Jersey date added for The Beach Boys. Aug. 18 in Ocean Grove

https://www.app.com/story/entertainment/events/2018/04/30/beach-boys-return-ocean-grove-great-auditorium-date/477684002/


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Amy B. on May 01, 2018, 12:25:42 PM
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Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on May 04, 2018, 06:37:00 AM
On September 15, The Beach Boys will play the Kansas State Fair.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 04, 2018, 03:29:32 PM
Wow...they're at the Mountain Winery in CA the next night! Say what you will about these guys (and there is plenty to say...) but they certainly work hard.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 04, 2018, 03:31:41 PM
They have a new photo on their tour dates page that now includes Keith as well as Christian Love. It also looks like Mike and Bruce's faces have been poorly digitally enhanced to look younger and brighter. It's pretty creepy.

https://www.thebeachboys.com/tour


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on May 04, 2018, 04:57:22 PM
Looks like Stan is subbing for Mike this year.  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on May 04, 2018, 09:27:47 PM
They have a new photo on their tour dates page that now includes Keith as well as Christian Love. It also looks like Mike and Bruce's faces have been poorly digitally enhanced to look younger and brighter. It's pretty creepy.

https://www.thebeachboys.com/tour

I didn't see anything weird or creepy about the band photo.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on May 06, 2018, 05:06:17 AM
They have a new photo on their tour dates page that now includes Keith as well as Christian Love. It also looks like Mike and Bruce's faces have been poorly digitally enhanced to look younger and brighter. It's pretty creepy.

https://www.thebeachboys.com/tour

That ones not terrible but i see what you’re saying about the creepy part. I saw another pic in an article about them and that one was weird looking too. See below

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thetelegraph.com/news/amp/The-Beach-Boys-to-perform-at-Liberty-Bank-Alton-12887667.php


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 06, 2018, 10:05:04 AM
Exactly! Bruce's face looks exceptionally unnatural in that photo.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on May 06, 2018, 05:54:32 PM
So is wearing black leather shoes without socks.  ;D


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 06, 2018, 08:05:23 PM
So is wearing black leather shoes without socks.  ;D

Hey, at least he has long pants!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on May 09, 2018, 10:07:28 AM
It feels like Summer, and America's Band is filling up their schedule.

https://www.thetelegraph.com/news/article/The-Beach-Boys-to-perform-at-Liberty-Bank-Alton-12887667.php


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on May 15, 2018, 11:19:13 PM
http://www.wjbdradio.com/music-news/2018/05/15/mike-love-michael-mcdonald-to-perform-at-annual-we-write-the-songs-event-at-the-library-of-congress

Story implies Mike will be solo.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on May 16, 2018, 06:28:17 AM
Another Date added to The Beach Boys 2018 Tour

Ohio State Fair
Wed., July 25, 2018, 7 pm


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: feelintheflows on May 24, 2018, 03:07:39 PM
Now and Then tour ?? Haha oh boy.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on May 25, 2018, 09:39:30 AM
August 26th date added for Moline

And tonight in Springfield, organizers expect a crowd of 4000.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on May 25, 2018, 01:17:24 PM
Unfortunately, by tying the official "Beach Boys" page in with bookings for Mike's version of the band, you get stuff like this:

https://www.facebook.com/events/1708943499184238

A pic of the old/original BBs (in this case the banner pic from the BB FB page, which is the upcoming London Philharmonic album) is essentially being used to promote Mike's tour. Hopefully they can fix this.

I *actually* thought when I got the notification that they were perhaps doing an "orchestral" show based on the BB album, essentially the recent Orbison UK hologram tour minus the hologram, perhaps playing the new album live with a live orchestra playing along with the old recordings.

But no, I think this is just Mike's tour.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 25, 2018, 08:18:39 PM
Yikes. That's Bad.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on June 05, 2018, 07:48:44 AM
The Montreal date is July 23rd


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on June 07, 2018, 07:47:24 AM
Another date added on their August swing thru New York State - August 6 at Constellation Brands-Marvin Sands Performing Arts Center in Canandaigua.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on June 07, 2018, 08:52:09 PM
I don't know how they're going to physically survive the month of August. Overall, this is a light year for Mike and Bruce with touring, but the month of August is on steroids compared to the rest of the summer, and calendar year for that matter.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on June 08, 2018, 06:12:34 AM
I don't know how they're going to physically survive the month of August. Overall, this is a light year for Mike and Bruce with touring, but the month of August is on steroids compared to the rest of the summer, and calendar year for that matter.

23 shows in 26 days in August; that's seems pretty normal for Mike's tour (last year was pretty similar; 20 shows over 24 days). And I do feel bad for the people who catch the shows on the tail end of that run especially, as I recall last year that pro-shot benefit show that was up online for a few days was taken from the tail end of a really long run of shows, and the band seemed pretty tired and lacking in energy.



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on June 08, 2018, 06:45:06 AM
They also have some heavy travel, in relation to quirky scheduling surounding some Canadian dates. They are way up in Timmins Onrario for a show on June 30, then in California the next day. They also have shows in Ottawa and Montreal on the 21st and 23rd of July. A nice easy travel stretch as these cities are less than 2 hours apart by car. BUT they are doing a gig in Edmonton, halfway across the Country in between on the 22nd!! Can't say these guys don't giver'!!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on June 08, 2018, 07:06:47 AM
I don't know how they're going to physically survive the month of August. Overall, this is a light year for Mike and Bruce with touring, but the month of August is on steroids compared to the rest of the summer, and calendar year for that matter.

23 shows in 26 days in August; that's seems pretty normal for Mike's tour (last year was pretty similar; 20 shows over 24 days). And I do feel bad for the people who catch the shows on the tail end of that run especially, as I recall last year that pro-shot benefit show that was up online for a few days was taken from the tail end of a really long run of shows, and the band seemed pretty tired and lacking in energy.



Yes, I recall last August was packed because I saw the 2nd show in one day after about seven days of straight shows. It wasn't bad...but it showed. Musically, and in Bruce's obtuse personality. But doesn't the rest of the summer months (June & July) seem less active than usual this year?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on June 08, 2018, 07:52:52 AM
The end of last year and beginning of this year seemed a bit lighter than usual for Mike. It may well be that he's just letting up a *tiny bit* on the schedule. I think a recent interview he did had him acknowledging that this year is slightly lighter than last year in total shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on June 14, 2018, 06:50:22 AM
The World Tour will push into late fall as The Beach Boys are surfing their way into the Mark C. Smith Concert Hall at the VBC in Hunstsville, Alabama on November 13.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: BeachBoysCovers on June 17, 2018, 11:09:06 AM
Surprised by how heavy the Cowsill version of "Wild Honey" is. He was practically screaming it at points, which was great.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on June 17, 2018, 05:38:44 PM
Surprised by how heavy the Cowsill version of "Wild Honey" is. He was practically screaming it at points, which was great.

He was very displeased that Mike doesn't seem to think all audiences would enjoy that song when I saw them last summer and asked why the song wasn't included in the encore. I think Mike has a good concept of "flow" in a setlist however, I think he has a poor concept of pleasing the variety of listeners that come to their shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on June 19, 2018, 12:21:53 PM
Oops, looks like this article (about Keith Moon digging the Beach Boys) incorrectly suggested Al was playing with Mike and Bruce for the Hampton Court shows:

https://www.nwitimes.com/entertainment/music/keith-moon-sent-letter-to-beach-boys-asking-to-join/article_49eacb48-2811-5c34-966c-da7de41e42c7.html


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on June 20, 2018, 05:50:31 PM
When he says  Brian , Dennis, Carl, and Al wouldn’t have allowed it, he is saying he would have dumped Dennis for Keith?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on June 27, 2018, 09:19:50 AM
I can't believe they're *still* doing *this* at the shows:

(http://thisisreno.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Beach-Boys323-400x600.jpg)

From a Friday, 6/22 show.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Dave in KC on July 02, 2018, 12:18:18 AM
Will they do that on the 4th of July special?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on July 02, 2018, 04:18:00 AM
Just got announcement from Ticket master

Friday, October 5  Beau Rivage, Biloxi, MS
 
(The M&B Beach Boys usually play a Saturday show there as well).

Debating whether to go - the last time I saw them I lucked out - Stamos wasn't there.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on July 02, 2018, 06:50:55 AM
Just got confirmation on that anticipated Saturday show at Beau Rivage. So it's October 5 and 6.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Dave in KC on July 02, 2018, 04:02:41 PM
How many years in a row have they played that place?  And always the first weekend in October. I saw them there in 2003.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: donald on July 02, 2018, 06:46:32 PM
They are playing the mountain winery in Saratoga CA in September.  Being from the mid Atlantic area, it is interesting that I may see them at that same venue  for a third time , again in late summer, early fall.  May be my last time to see them.   We are all getting older.  But it is almost always a good show.   always enjoy seeing Scott, cowsill, and Jeffrey.   I don't know how they keep it up.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 10:05:47 AM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36598163_10156494964109140_8762297651132628992_n.png?_nc_cat=1&oh=25b640a2011d15cd5c4582d10feed8f6&oe=5BD9E1D7)

It struck me seeing this photo in a feed this morning, what someone posted in another discussion: It seems Mike's M.O. of going "lean and mean" with his touring band has changed a bit. I wonder why.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 10:31:00 AM
Seems they are going the “Chicago” route.... BW, Al, And David would more than do. ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on July 04, 2018, 11:46:44 AM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36598163_10156494964109140_8762297651132628992_n.png?_nc_cat=1&oh=25b640a2011d15cd5c4582d10feed8f6&oe=5BD9E1D7)

It struck me seeing this photo in a feed this morning, what someone posted in another discussion: It seems Mike's M.O. of going "lean and mean" with his touring band has changed a bit. I wonder why.

NCOTFBB'S  >:D         ( No chance outside the fake Beach Boys)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 12:32:42 PM
OSD July! ;D


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 04, 2018, 12:37:55 PM
I'll YouTube this lyp-synched shlock tomorrow...better things to do tonight...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 12:43:35 PM
M&B are getting over the top covering for Mike’s lack of singing ability at this point...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 12:45:41 PM
Mike will be getting some kind of award at this event tonight too.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 12:53:09 PM
Uh oh, wonder what?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 01:20:27 PM
I'd give Mike a replica of that foot statue Reagan gave James Watt back in '83. But it would need to be at least 20 times larger than Watt's to cover Mike's f-ups. Mark McGrath can unveil it by pulling the hotel bedsheet used in the Do It Again video off the statue during the broadcast.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 01:34:39 PM
Wink Martindale to M.C?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 01:53:06 PM
Wink Martindale to M.C?

According to an impeccable source, Mike called Wink multiple times to invite him to emcee the event, but each time the person answering the phone at Wink's house told Mike that Wink was "busy washing his hair" and could not take the call. Mike eventually gave up and got Stamos instead.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 04, 2018, 01:53:20 PM
Jimmy B. Is putting up a bit of the soundcheck on his Instagram. A great pic of Jimmy and Bruce, two guys who 'pray for waves' as the caption says.

Looking forward to watching this tonight. Hoping JB and BB do a tune or two together.  Happy 4th!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 01:56:34 PM
Jimmy B. Is putting up a bit of the soundcheck on his Instagram. A great pic of Jimmy and Bruce, two guys who 'pray for waves' as the caption says.

Looking forward to watching this tonight. Hoping JB and BB do a tune or two together.  Happy 4th!

Prerecorded tracks or a 100% authentic live performance this time around?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 04, 2018, 02:00:34 PM
Mike will be getting some kind of award at this event tonight too.

The National Artistic Achievement Award. Can't say I can find much info on it. It's had 4 prior recipients, including Stevie Wonder.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 04, 2018, 02:02:54 PM
Jimmy B. Is putting up a bit of the soundcheck on his Instagram. A great pic of Jimmy and Bruce, two guys who 'pray for waves' as the caption says.

Looking forward to watching this tonight. Hoping JB and BB do a tune or two together.  Happy 4th!

Prerecorded tracks or a 100% authentic live performance this time around?
Well it sounded like JB was playing a little guitar, but aren't these things always pre recorded?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 02:05:46 PM
Mike will be getting some kind of award at this event tonight too.

The National Artistic Achievement Award. Can't say I can find much info on it. It's had 4 prior recipients, including Stevie Wonder.

Yes, that's what it was, thanks for the clarification. I hope someone explained to Mike that The Beach Boys are getting the award, as in including the Wilsons and Jardine et al, and it's not just going to Mike & Bruce. If he delivers an acceptance speech when Stamos gives him the award, I hope he sees fit to name his original bandmates which he doesn't seem to do as often these days in his promotional press junket interviews.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 02:09:07 PM
Jimmy B. Is putting up a bit of the soundcheck on his Instagram. A great pic of Jimmy and Bruce, two guys who 'pray for waves' as the caption says.

Looking forward to watching this tonight. Hoping JB and BB do a tune or two together.  Happy 4th!

Prerecorded tracks or a 100% authentic live performance this time around?
Well it sounded like JB was playing a little guitar, but aren't these things always pre recorded?

If they are always prerecorded, it kind of makes a soundcheck unnecessary. Unless the soundcheck is more for camera blocking than actually running through a soundcheck for the musicians.

There was an issue in previous years with some fans (and posters here and elsewhere) suggesting some of these things Mike did were 100% live when they clearly were not. Just curious if this year would be a 100% live show.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2018, 02:16:28 PM
Mike will be getting some kind of award at this event tonight too.

The National Artistic Achievement Award. Can't say I can find much info on it. It's had 4 prior recipients, including Stevie Wonder.

Yes, that's what it was, thanks for the clarification. I hope someone explained to Mike that The Beach Boys are getting the award, as in including the Wilsons and Jardine et al, and it's not just going to Mike & Bruce. If he delivers an acceptance speech when Stamos gives him the award, I hope he sees fit to name his original bandmates which he doesn't seem to do as often these days in his promotional press junket interviews.

If he does, it'll probably be to remind everybody that Brian is his cousin (which he only does when discussing Brian's many accomplishments)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 02:35:00 PM
Mike will be getting some kind of award at this event tonight too.

The National Artistic Achievement Award. Can't say I can find much info on it. It's had 4 prior recipients, including Stevie Wonder.

Yes, that's what it was, thanks for the clarification. I hope someone explained to Mike that The Beach Boys are getting the award, as in including the Wilsons and Jardine et al, and it's not just going to Mike & Bruce. If he delivers an acceptance speech when Stamos gives him the award, I hope he sees fit to name his original bandmates which he doesn't seem to do as often these days in his promotional press junket interviews.

If he does, it'll probably be to remind everybody that Brian is his cousin (which he only does when discussing Brian's many accomplishments)

I would not be surprised if that's exactly what happens! It's been Mike's M.O. in recent interviews to either go that route, or not mention the name "Brian" at all. As happened on an 8-minute long interview recently done on UK television.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 03:11:55 PM
Mike will be getting some kind of award at this event tonight too.

The National Artistic Achievement Award. Can't say I can find much info on it. It's had 4 prior recipients, including Stevie Wonder.

Yes, that's what it was, thanks for the clarification. I hope someone explained to Mike that The Beach Boys are getting the award, as in including the Wilsons and Jardine et al, and it's not just going to Mike & Bruce. If he delivers an acceptance speech when Stamos gives him the award, I hope he sees fit to name his original bandmates which he doesn't seem to do as often these days in his promotional press junket interviews.

If he does, it'll probably be to remind everybody that Brian is his cousin (which he only does when discussing Brian's many accomplishments)

I would not be surprised if that's exactly what happens! It's been Mike's M.O. in recent interviews to either go that route, or not mention the name "Brian" at all. As happened on an 8-minute long interview recently done on UK television.

Billy with the win in round 1! I don't know what this interviewer's credentials are or who he represents, but here are Mike and Bruce yapping away earlier today in DC...

https://youtu.be/4bDORIR2YzA?t=29s (https://youtu.be/4bDORIR2YzA?t=29s)

Now were the original 80's July 4th shows in DC Mike's idea? He seems to suggest that in this interview. Legit question...is the credit for those shows really Mike's? Hmm.



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 03:18:21 PM
The history rewrite in the flesh....


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 03:25:48 PM
Brian Wilson’s genius is “fake” news... ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2018, 03:28:42 PM
Mike will be getting some kind of award at this event tonight too.

The National Artistic Achievement Award. Can't say I can find much info on it. It's had 4 prior recipients, including Stevie Wonder.

Yes, that's what it was, thanks for the clarification. I hope someone explained to Mike that The Beach Boys are getting the award, as in including the Wilsons and Jardine et al, and it's not just going to Mike & Bruce. If he delivers an acceptance speech when Stamos gives him the award, I hope he sees fit to name his original bandmates which he doesn't seem to do as often these days in his promotional press junket interviews.

If he does, it'll probably be to remind everybody that Brian is his cousin (which he only does when discussing Brian's many accomplishments)

I would not be surprised if that's exactly what happens! It's been Mike's M.O. in recent interviews to either go that route, or not mention the name "Brian" at all. As happened on an 8-minute long interview recently done on UK television.

Billy with the win in round 1! I don't know what this interviewer's credentials are or who he represents, but here are Mike and Bruce yapping away earlier today in DC...

https://youtu.be/4bDORIR2YzA?t=29s (https://youtu.be/4bDORIR2YzA?t=29s)

Now were the original 80's July 4th shows in DC Mike's idea? He seems to suggest that in this interview. Legit question...is the credit for those shows really Mike's? Hmm.



For the longest time, I didn't know there was a radio guy named "Cousin Brucie" and  when Mike referred to him, I thought he was talking about Bruce Johnston :lol  I was like "holy sh*t this guy has a serious problem" :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 03:35:08 PM
Haha!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2018, 03:38:30 PM
https://truestrange.com/2017/07/15/how-everyone-alive-now-on-earth-is-your-cousin/


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 03:39:00 PM
Brian Wilson’s genius is “fake” news... ::)

Apparently - given the time Mike spent on it in this interview - discussing "I Write The Songs" is weighted heavier than mentioning Carl, Dennis, or the Beach Boys (pre-license) at all. Only a mention of "my cousin Brian" regarding songs he wrote with Mike.

Oh, and suggesting the original run of DC 4th of July concerts was Mike's idea.

It shouldn't, but this stuff gets me fired up.

Mike: It isn't about you.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2018, 03:40:52 PM
Brian Wilson’s genius is “fake” news... ::)

Apparently - given the time Mike spent on it in this interview - discussing "I Write The Songs" is weighted heavier than mentioning Carl, Dennis, or the Beach Boys (pre-license) at all. Only a mention of "my cousin Brian" regarding songs he wrote with Mike.

Oh, and suggesting the original run of DC 4th of July concerts was Mike's idea.

It shouldn't, but this stuff gets me fired up.

Mike: It isn't about you.

Well said Cousin Craig :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 03:44:06 PM
Uncle Billy should interview M&B!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 03:44:21 PM
Brian Wilson’s genius is “fake” news... ::)

Apparently - given the time Mike spent on it in this interview - discussing "I Write The Songs" is weighted heavier than mentioning Carl, Dennis, or the Beach Boys (pre-license) at all. Only a mention of "my cousin Brian" regarding songs he wrote with Mike.

Oh, and suggesting the original run of DC 4th of July concerts was Mike's idea.

It shouldn't, but this stuff gets me fired up.

Mike: It isn't about you.

Well said Cousin Craig :lol

Thank you, Cousin Billy!  ;D


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2018, 03:56:06 PM
Uncle Billy should interview M&B!

Thank you Aunt Melinda, er, Cousin Smile Brian!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2018, 03:56:37 PM
Brian Wilson’s genius is “fake” news... ::)

Apparently - given the time Mike spent on it in this interview - discussing "I Write The Songs" is weighted heavier than mentioning Carl, Dennis, or the Beach Boys (pre-license) at all. Only a mention of "my cousin Brian" regarding songs he wrote with Mike.

Oh, and suggesting the original run of DC 4th of July concerts was Mike's idea.

It shouldn't, but this stuff gets me fired up.

Mike: It isn't about you.

Well said Cousin Craig :lol

Thank you, Cousin Billy!  ;D

;)
Half tempted to do a word filter on the board that automatically changes "Brian" to "Cousin Brian" :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 04:14:58 PM
Do it (again)!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 05:15:17 PM
Any highlights from the show?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 06:13:35 PM
Here is the stream on YouTube - Mike's set just ended around 9:10 EST, I Get Around, Kokomo (with Buffett) shortened that went right into Fun Fun Fun.

You should be able to rewind the stream to catch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5HNFhzNdnI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5HNFhzNdnI)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 04, 2018, 06:16:41 PM
Mike did accept the award "on behalf of Brian, Carl, and Dennis Wilson, Alan Jardine, David Marks, and Bruce and I".

Cool - As it should be.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 06:33:06 PM
That's a relief..... ;)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Marty Castillo on July 04, 2018, 06:41:17 PM
I've been fooled before, but it sounded live to me. Not saying there wasn't anything extra--certainly could have been. Much improved compared to years past with the pre-recorded vocals/tracks.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 04, 2018, 06:56:23 PM
Buffett instead of McGrath is a win lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on July 04, 2018, 07:47:08 PM
I'll YouTube this lyp-synched shlock tomorrow...better things to do tonight...


https://youtu.be/MnRchdfsnMw


The second year in a row I am grateful Mike fired Brian, Al and David, and gave a new meaning to ‘Independence’ Day.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: donald on July 04, 2018, 07:57:54 PM
I' ve been  a die hard fan for decades and decades (as some of you may remember). But in recent years have been sidelined by a growing interest in the blues, pop and swing my friends and co-musicians enjoy playing.   But I've drifted back in recent weeks to the lovely melodies and lore of the Boys.   Gotta say, I am amazed by the ongoing strength and musicianship of Mike and the touring band.   Couldn't believe how well they came across in the DC performance today.  Mike, Bruce, Cowsill, Scotty, , Jeff, and the rest are still going strong it seems.  Hell, even Stamos.   Been 3 years or more since I last saw them.   5 years since I last saw BW.  May see them again in California this fall.   These guys still bring me a bit of happiness..  amazing after all these years.    


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: thatjacob on July 04, 2018, 08:03:23 PM
I've been fooled before, but it sounded live to me. Not saying there wasn't anything extra--certainly could have been. Much improved compared to years past with the pre-recorded vocals/tracks.

Pretty sure it's lipsynced or at least pitch corrected a bit, but it's much better than last year. I feel like scott totten's opening riff for "fun, fun, fun" had a tiny slightly muted string mistake in it, so that leads me to believe that it wasn't live for the broadcast, it was at least just a recent live performance's audio.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: thatjacob on July 04, 2018, 08:14:40 PM
You can definitely tell that there's something going on with mike's vocal, but I'm not sure what it is anymore. If you listen to the first line of "fun, fun, fun" you can hear two mike love vocals simultaneously on the first word "well" before it cuts out like it was a mistake.

It really doesn't matter in a situation like that, though. Mike's vocal has been live and fairly strong the two times I've seen him in concert.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: John Brode on July 04, 2018, 10:22:29 PM
Saw Mike and Bruce a couple days ago, and while there were tributes to Carl and Dennis with GOK and DYWD (they used Dennis' lead vocal), I was surprised that there was absolutely no mention of Brian.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 04, 2018, 10:57:37 PM
Welcome back donald!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2018, 11:55:58 PM
Never mind my original post... I was looking at the wrong video. Performance wasn’t bad and mike sounded better but the mix was too “wet” and Stamos continues to annoy me

Edit

Referring to the clip of them doing I Get Around


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lee Marshall on July 05, 2018, 08:36:22 AM
I was pleasantly surprised.  The vocal sound was pretty strong...the best of all of the 'acts' I thought.  I wondered what they did to enhance Mike's power and tone...  It worked.

Quibbles?  Why wouldn't they put the camera on Jeff when he was singing key parts of Kokomo?  Looked stupid...amateurish.  Obviously a poor production idea.  Why send John Cowsill packing in order to put 'who's-his-arse' on the drums?  Just let him play the guitar...or some bongos.  Jimmy isn't good at singing harmonies.  As I have said for years...'speechifying' ain't Mike's strong suit.  It never has been.  Stumbling through his wee accepting of the award 'blurt' was pretty iffy...and he forgot to include Blondie and Ricky.

All in all though?  W A Y  better than last year's debacle.  Hey!!!  I gotta tell the truth. ;)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on July 05, 2018, 09:53:23 AM

Quibbles?  Why wouldn't they put the camera on Jeff when he was singing key parts of Kokomo?  Looked stupid...amateurish.  Obviously a poor production idea.  

This is an ongoing issue and has been for a couple decades for Mike, because he tours as "The Beach Boys" mostly with "non-Beach Boys", and the sidemen sing a ton of the lead vocals.

It isn't super-duper common for a *group* to hand off a ton of leads to "non-official members." They usually bring those other newer members in as "official" members (e.g. Chicago, Journey, Boston, etc.).

Yes, on occasion groups (or even "solo" artists) hand off lead parts to backing band members. Foskett was singing "Little GTO" with the Beach Boys back in the 80s. Even McCartney had his backing guys singing a few lines on "I've Got a Feeling."

But Mike and Bruce are regularly presented as "The Beach Boys" in its official capacity as a touring band, and thus the (correct) assumption even on the part of directors/editors on TV shows is that everybody else is in the backing band, thus you get stuff like the camera staying honed in on Mike (or Bruce, or even Stamos) instead of the other guys.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 05, 2018, 09:58:35 AM
I was pleasantly surprised.  The vocal sound was pretty strong...the best of all of the 'acts' I thought.  I wondered what they did to enhance Mike's power and tone...  It worked.

Quibbles?  Why wouldn't they put the camera on Jeff when he was singing key parts of Kokomo?  Looked stupid...amateurish.  Obviously a poor production idea.  Why send John Cowsill packing in order to put 'who's-his-arse' on the drums?  Just let him play the guitar...or some bongos.  Jimmy isn't good at singing harmonies.  As I have said for years...'speechifying' ain't Mike's strong suit.  It never has been.  Stumbling through his wee accepting of the award 'blurt' was pretty iffy...and he forgot to include Blondie and Ricky.

All in all though?  W A Y  better than last year's debacle.  Hey!!!  I gotta tell the truth. ;)

It seemed a little harried on stage for the award presentation. I wonder if they were behind? We're the fireworks supposed to start during the set?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 05, 2018, 10:38:27 AM
Just watched...seemed like Mike was desperately trying to read a prompter that was too far away.

I'm pretty sure they sang with a recording of themselves. The harmonies were thick in a duplication kinda way. As previously mentioned, there were also some moments were it was easily noticeable that there were "two Mike Loves" singing at the same time.

WAY better than last year...but truly, jut the same old shlock.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on July 05, 2018, 01:18:08 PM
From the articles I've read, the fireworks are independent of the concert, so the National Park Service can set them off whenever they wish.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 05, 2018, 07:04:54 PM
I was actually surprised to see Mike kind of stumble over his acceptance speech when Stamos gave him that award. I like that Mike accepted it for and named his original bandmates, but I didn't expect him to A. need to read from a teleprompter (if that's what he was doing) for such a short thank-you type of speech since his everyday gig is an emcee/frontman, and B. have trouble delivering the speech. It happens to everyone but Mike seemed off.

I can't put my finger on what it was, but I thought listening live last night that the performance was enhanced, I also think I did hear multiple Mike vocals hitting the live mix simultaneously and perhaps one was corrected, and the instrumental mix sounded really, really full (and I don't mean the orchestra, I mean the core band). Compare that sound to some of the recent June 2018 concert clips on YouTube.

I thought it felt like the set was clipped a little too tight, as in it felt rushed especially cutting right to Fun Fun Fun in the middle of Kokomo, and it didn't feel like the group was given enough time in the set. These things always run long, but still...we got basically one full song from the band. Or 2 if you count Fun Fun Fun which is short anyway.

Jimmy Buffett...I don't think he added much if anything. Him being barefoot was a little odd, at least Bruce could have lent Jimmy a pair of his Docksiders to put on his feet.  ;D

Anyway - The songs are the legacy. People love them and always will. It's music that heals and makes people happy. A special tip of the hat as well to John Stamos for all the work he does for veterans groups and his other charities - A class act in that regard, and I mean that sincerely. Kudos to John Stamos.




Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 06, 2018, 06:19:34 AM
2guitarfool2002: Well said. Agree with each point. It didn't seem characteristic of chatty Mike to stumble indeed.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on July 06, 2018, 06:35:09 AM
I don't think there's any need to pile on given that any time Stamos and Mike are involved, and it's a TV show conforming to all the trappings of such, it's *always* pretty painful and not the best presentation for anyone.

That being said, we've set the bar pretty low if it's now a case of "well, not as bad as last year!"

I guess I appreciate Mike mentioning the other band members when accepting the punch bowl, err, award, but really that would, under any circumstance concerning an "award" for the band, be the most basic courtesy he *should* be offering.

As for the "live" performances, they did indeed appear less obviously canned compared to last year. I still think some futzing is going on, but at least some of the vocals and possibly some of the instrumentation appeared to be partially live.  Mike's band, while kind of a bit diluted (I'm pretty sure all three of Bonhomme, the sax player, and the new bass player are all the same guy), puts on a professional show. But these types of shows are never even a good presentation for his band.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on July 06, 2018, 07:51:15 AM
There was certainly nothing on the show this year that was epic enough to inspire this Vic Berger video from last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdYbymafUd0


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on July 06, 2018, 03:13:47 PM
July 15th show has been cancelled "due to logistical issues."

https://www.wane.com/news/local-news/beach-boys-cancel-fort-wayne-show/1286789993


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 06, 2018, 03:57:07 PM
That inspired me to check up on their schedule...which led me to this interesting discovery:

November 16th in Chattanooga, the 'boys' will launch their "Reason for the Season Christmas Tour"...I know Mike and Bruce have done Christmas shows before...but have they ever advertised a specifically themed Christmas tour...coincidentally at the same exact time Brian & Al are doing their own?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 06, 2018, 04:09:11 PM
July 15th show has been cancelled "due to logistical issues."

https://www.wane.com/news/local-news/beach-boys-cancel-fort-wayne-show/1286789993

That inspired me to check up on their schedule...which led me to this interesting discovery:

November 16th in Chattanooga, the 'boys' will launch their "Reason for the Season Christmas Tour"...I know Mike and Bruce have done Christmas shows before...but have they ever advertised a specifically themed Christmas tour...coincidentally at the same exact time Brian & Al are doing their own?

Maybe they had to cancel to hold emergency auditions to find a dancing Santa Claus to add to Mike's Christmas shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 06, 2018, 04:35:34 PM
July 15th show has been cancelled "due to logistical issues."

https://www.wane.com/news/local-news/beach-boys-cancel-fort-wayne-show/1286789993

That inspired me to check up on their schedule...which led me to this interesting discovery:

November 16th in Chattanooga, the 'boys' will launch their "Reason for the Season Christmas Tour"...I know Mike and Bruce have done Christmas shows before...but have they ever advertised a specifically themed Christmas tour...coincidentally at the same exact time Brian & Al are doing their own?

Maybe they had to cancel to hold emergency auditions to find a dancing Santa Claus to add to Mike's Christmas shows.

More likely a slew of dancing Mrs. Clauses...surely Mike will be the big man in red...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 06, 2018, 04:39:46 PM
Unleash the santa daddy... :o


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 06, 2018, 05:37:23 PM
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Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Dave in KC on July 07, 2018, 02:03:46 AM
I was actually surprised to see Mike kind of stumble over his acceptance speech when Stamos gave him that award. I like that Mike accepted it for and named his original bandmates, but I didn't expect him to A. need to read from a teleprompter (if that's what he was doing) for such a short thank-you type of speech since his everyday gig is an emcee/frontman, and B. have trouble delivering the speech. It happens to everyone but Mike seemed off.

I can't put my finger on what it was, but I thought listening live last night that the performance was enhanced, I also think I did hear multiple Mike vocals hitting the live mix simultaneously and perhaps one was corrected, and the instrumental mix sounded really, really full (and I don't mean the orchestra, I mean the core band). Compare that sound to some of the recent June 2018 concert clips on YouTube.

I thought it felt like the set was clipped a little too tight, as in it felt rushed especially cutting right to Fun Fun Fun in the middle of Kokomo, and it didn't feel like the group was given enough time in the set. These things always run long, but still...we got basically one full song from the band. Or 2 if you count Fun Fun Fun which is short anyway.



Jimmy Buffett...I don't think he added much if anything. Him being barefoot was a little odd, at least Bruce could have lent Jimmy a pair of his Docksiders to put on his feet.  ;D

Anyway - The songs are the legacy. People love them and always will. It's music that heals and makes people happy. A special tip of the hat as well to John Stamos for all the work he does for veterans groups and his other charities - A class act in that regard, and I mean that sincerely. Kudos to John Stamos.

NOTE: JB does all his concerts barefoot.





Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 07, 2018, 05:29:08 AM
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Mike needs to wear this on the christmas tour! :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Debbie KL on July 07, 2018, 10:07:59 AM
July 15th show has been cancelled "due to logistical issues."

https://www.wane.com/news/local-news/beach-boys-cancel-fort-wayne-show/1286789993

That inspired me to check up on their schedule...which led me to this interesting discovery:

November 16th in Chattanooga, the 'boys' will launch their "Reason for the Season Christmas Tour"...I know Mike and Bruce have done Christmas shows before...but have they ever advertised a specifically themed Christmas tour...coincidentally at the same exact time Brian & Al are doing their own?

Maybe they had to cancel to hold emergency auditions to find a dancing Santa Claus to add to Mike's Christmas shows.

 :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on July 07, 2018, 12:35:47 PM
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Mike needs to wear this on the christmas tour! :lol

Ahh, memories of being banned for a stretch only this time it's a sweatshirt.  :lol :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 07, 2018, 12:57:05 PM
That was a pretty strange photo with “family” members! :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 07, 2018, 05:54:05 PM
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Mike needs to wear this on the christmas tour! :lol

Ahh, memories of being banned for a stretch only this time it's a sweatshirt.  :lol :lol

Hey We gotta laugh about it now... all we can do :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on July 07, 2018, 07:05:47 PM

Old water under the bridge, Billy.  ;)




Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 08, 2018, 10:10:39 AM
OSD is the man!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Debbie KL on July 08, 2018, 12:02:12 PM
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Mike needs to wear this on the christmas tour! :lol

Ahh, memories of being banned for a stretch only this time it's a sweatshirt.  :lol :lol

Hey We gotta laugh about it now... all we can do :lol

Yep  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on July 10, 2018, 02:10:18 PM
It's interesting to me that in many (not all, but a handful) of TV performances since C50, Bruce has gone without a keyboard, as another frontman. Does he do this on TV at events such as the Capitol Fourth 2018, Memorial Day 2016, The View 2016, etc to draw attention that he is another "real" Beach Boy? That would be my guess. To distinguish him from the band.

I know singing BBs harmony is no easy task, but Bruce always looks like he doesn't have much to do!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 10, 2018, 09:29:31 PM
It's interesting to me that in many (not all, but a handful) of TV performances since C50, Bruce has gone without a keyboard, as another frontman. Does he do this on TV at events such as the Capitol Fourth 2018, Memorial Day 2016, The View 2016, etc to draw attention that he is another "real" Beach Boy? That would be my guess. To distinguish him from the band.

I know singing BBs harmony is no easy task, but Bruce always looks like he doesn't have much to do!

I've noticed that Bruce's keyboard is MIA when they are lip-synching to one degree or another. I've also noticed that when he plays live, he is often playing vocal cues on very soft electric piano sounds, or simply playing nothing at all (this is usually the case...) So, I'm sure they see no need for the additional expense. Also, I wouldn't consider him an additional frontman. Frankly, he's a backup singer at that point.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on July 11, 2018, 08:36:03 AM
Yeah, whenever I hear Bruce playing it's always the DX7-esque electric piano patch. When it stands out, it's a little cheesy, but when it sits right in the mix (as it usually does), it probably adds a nice cushion, that the audience can't really distinguish. Similar to Al's guitar playing in Brian's shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on July 12, 2018, 06:38:07 PM
Bruce’s piano is only live for about 3 songs in the set


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on July 13, 2018, 06:36:34 AM
Bruce said to Howie Edelson in an interview (which can be looked up here) that he (Bruce) saw his keyboard at live shows as mainly an accompaniment for himself, and also mentioned that the audience would really only notice anything if Bruce's keyboard dropped out of the live mix.

There's no question Bruce is a good piano player. So it's worth noting that any criticism of his prominence or lack thereof at live shows either in terms of what he's playing or how audible it is, has to do not with his ability, but with his practical usefulness musically at live shows. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on July 13, 2018, 06:56:44 AM
Scott Totten told me that Bruce's keyboard is always on and that his keyboard is the "main sound" in Darlin' and the chorus and bridge of Good Vibrations.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 20, 2018, 01:21:45 PM
The band will play Fleet Week in CA.  Sept 1st in front of USS IOWA, 250 S Harbor Blvd., San Pedro.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on July 20, 2018, 03:09:32 PM
Any recent setlists to post?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 23, 2018, 07:57:58 PM
Any recent setlists to post?

Something close to the following;

Do it again
Surfin' Safari
Catch a Wave
Hawaii
Surfin' USA
Surfer Girl
Getcha Back
Good to my Baby
Darlin'
Why do Fools
You're So Good to Me
When I Grow Up
All the Love in Paris
Don't Worry Baby
Little Deuce Coupe
409
Shut Down
I Get Around
God Only Knows
Pisces Brothers
Unleash the Love
Sloop
WIBN
California Girls
All Summer Long
Rhonda
GV
Barbara Ann
Kokomo
Fun Fun Fun


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: marcella27 on July 23, 2018, 08:09:16 PM
I saw them on Saturday at Kemptville Music Festival and the setlist on Setlist FM is accurate, I believe, as is Juice Brohnston's post immediately above. No surprises, but it was a festival show so I wasn't expecting any.

The band sounded good but Mike's voice is really not what it used to be. It's to be expected from a 76 year old man (only Al seems to defy time) but the fact remains, it's not great. For all the criticism I have read of Brian's singing, I can't say Mike's is any better at all. Again, I don't mean this with any disrespect as it's a natural aspect of aging, and Mike and Bruce's punishing tour schedule can't help. Just my observation having seem them a couple of times since C50.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on July 23, 2018, 11:02:37 PM
Any recent setlists to post?

Something close to the following;

Do it again
Surfin' Safari
Catch a Wave
Hawaii
Surfin' USA
Surfer Girl
Getcha Back
Good to my Baby
Darlin'
Why do Fools
You're So Good to Me
When I Grow Up
All the Love in Paris
Don't Worry Baby
Little Deuce Coupe
409
Shut Down
I Get Around
God Only Knows
Pisces Brothers
Unleash the Love
Sloop
WIBN
California Girls
All Summer Long
Rhonda
GV
Barbara Ann
Kokomo
Fun Fun Fun

Thanks. In previous years, I have passed on the Mike and Bruce show, but I think it's time to see them. Sadly, they don't seem to be in our area this year. A friend saw them at the fair last summer, and was very impressed. Glad they are doing some of the new songs, too.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on July 24, 2018, 06:31:05 AM
For all of Mike's talk in his autobiography of giving up dairy (comically seeming more wistful and upset about giving up his "beloved Tillamook Cheddar Cheese" than ending the reunion in 2012) in order to help his voice, he really would be in better voice if he didn't tour all year, every year. He takes a few weeks off here and there, sometimes a bit more time off in the winter months.

But this business of doing 23 shows in 25 night during the summer and all of that, it absolutely shreds his voice. He'd probably be in surprisingly pretty good voice if he toured less.

I don't think it's a total coincidence that he was in comparatively good voice during C50; when the tour started at the end of April 2012, he had been mostly off the road for a solid four months.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 24, 2018, 07:42:31 AM
The Reason For The Season tour will hit Wilmington NC, at the aptly named Wilson Center, Tuesday December 18th at 7:30.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on July 24, 2018, 08:07:05 AM
Considering the long-term absence of any Wilsons in the band, I'd go with "ironically named" instead.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 24, 2018, 08:25:40 AM
Considering the long-term absence of any Wilsons in the band, I'd go with "ironically named" instead.

LOL ya u could make an argument. Mike's half Wilson, remember!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 24, 2018, 08:26:54 AM
Some nice sounding clips on You Tube of last nights performance in front of 30,000 plus in Montreal.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: marcella27 on July 24, 2018, 09:50:12 AM
Some nice sounding clips on You Tube of last nights performance in front of 30,000 plus in Montreal.

This article says that Mike made a joke about there being no Trump in Canada. Then again, it also describes Pisces Brother as a "superb" song, so maybe we should take it with a grain of salt. https://m.quebec.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/07/24/the-beach-boys-surfer-habilement-sur-la-vague-des-belles-annees_a_23488355/

One more comment: they HAVE to stop doing the schtick with bringing girls up on stage to dance during Barbara Ann. Especially when Totten plays guitar while it's being held by a hot girl...come on, it's 2018. This is cheesy and embarrassing and sexist. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on July 24, 2018, 05:33:24 PM
Coincidence that Mike is really pumping up this Christmas tour the same year Brian and Al are doing their first one? Absolutely not . Fits right into the Love competitiveness / perceived inferiority.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on July 24, 2018, 06:27:08 PM
Some nice sounding clips on You Tube of last nights performance in front of 30,000 plus in Montreal.

This article says that Mike made a joke about there being no Trump in Canada. Then again, it also describes Pisces Brother as a "superb" song, so maybe we should take it with a grain of salt. https://m.quebec.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/07/24/the-beach-boys-surfer-habilement-sur-la-vague-des-belles-annees_a_23488355/

One more comment: they HAVE to stop doing the schtick with bringing girls up on stage to dance during Barbara Ann. Especially when Totten plays guitar while it's being held by a hot girl...come on, it's 2018. This is cheesy and embarrassing and sexist. 
Well i sure wouldn't mind if a gorgeous girl joined me onstage for a song every night.
But if it would make you happy, we could have a good looking guy join Scott for the solo some nights.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 26, 2018, 09:57:11 AM
Review of last night's show in Columbus Dispatch

Mike Love brought his Beach Boys to the Ohio State Fair last night. They may or may not have feasted on corn dogs, turkey legs and elephant ears. The packed house in the Celeste Center last night can testify this morning, though, that the eight-piece band lit the opening night of the Fair with a celebration of eternal, California summer.

It mattered little that Beach Boy mastermind and composer Brian Wilson wasn’t along for the outing. (Wilson has spent far more time during the band’s 57-year career off the road, rather than on it with the band.) Last night it was irrelevant, too, that the other two founding Wilsons are deceased, fifth founding member Al Jardine was absent, and that Bruce Johnston—who joined in 1965--was the only other near-original.

The songs—mostly penned by Brian Wilson—and their performance, stood the test of time.

From the opening cluster of surf-related early material, the band nailed the trademark harmonies, accurately delivered the sometimes tricky arrangements, and kept the energy high. It helped that songs such as “Do It Again,” “Surfin’ Safari,” “Catch A Wave,” and “Surfin’ U.S.A.” flowed together naturally, building a dance fever that had the audience frugging in its seats. The video screen that rolled a mini-documentary before the set continued with non-stop clips of attractive young people frolicking in the ocean.

“Surfer Girl,” the first of the band’s dreamy classics was sweet and warm, its rich harmonies vibrant and alive. “Darlin’” and “Wouldn’t It Be Nice” similarly floated on the glow of their harmony parts. Fabulous falsettos from musical director and guitarist Scott Totten and lead vocals from guitarist Jeffrey Foskett were terrific substitutes for the original singers.


Totten’s guitar solos on the surf numbers smoked.

When the band entered less familiar territory, though, the brightness dulled a bit. The unremarkable “All The Love In Paris” and “Unleash The Love,” from Love’s 2017 solo album, sharply contrasted with the ambition and sophistication of Wilson’s songs. “Pisces Brothers,” a tribute to George Harrison and a remembrance of time spent in India with the Beatles, was most satisfying for its memories. On this and a couple other quiet spotlights, Love’s singing revealed the challenged intonation of his 77 years.

Nonetheless, a songbook identified as much by its tight harmonies as its brilliant songwriting was finely represented last night. The songs stood for themselves; the vocals, shared with Love and Johnston by Foskett, Totten, Love’s son Christian (a passionate reading of “God Only Knows”), and fabulous drummer John Cowsill (an electrifying stand-in for Blondie Chaplin on “Sail On, Sailor”), were proud readings of the originals.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on July 26, 2018, 11:10:13 AM
Great review!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on July 26, 2018, 01:08:35 PM
Some nice sounding clips on You Tube of last nights performance in front of 30,000 plus in Montreal.

This article says that Mike made a joke about there being no Trump in Canada. Then again, it also describes Pisces Brother as a "superb" song, so maybe we should take it with a grain of salt. https://m.quebec.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/07/24/the-beach-boys-surfer-habilement-sur-la-vague-des-belles-annees_a_23488355/

One more comment: they HAVE to stop doing the schtick with bringing girls up on stage to dance during Barbara Ann. Especially when Totten plays guitar while it's being held by a hot girl...come on, it's 2018. This is cheesy and embarrassing and sexist. 
Well i sure wouldn't mind if a gorgeous girl joined me onstage for a song every night.
But if it would make you happy, we could have a good looking guy join Scott for the solo some nights.


Nothing to do with guys or girls. It’s tacky and it’s continued moves like this since the 80s that keep the BB as B list entertainers on the party / state fair route when their musical output matches the A listers. Some fans are fine with that others are not.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on July 26, 2018, 01:15:49 PM
I've always found this gross and tacky (pic from only about a month ago, June 22):

(http://thisisreno.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Beach-Boys323-400x600.jpg)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: marcella27 on July 26, 2018, 06:50:13 PM
Some nice sounding clips on You Tube of last nights performance in front of 30,000 plus in Montreal.

This article says that Mike made a joke about there being no Trump in Canada. Then again, it also describes Pisces Brother as a "superb" song, so maybe we should take it with a grain of salt. https://m.quebec.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/07/24/the-beach-boys-surfer-habilement-sur-la-vague-des-belles-annees_a_23488355/

One more comment: they HAVE to stop doing the schtick with bringing girls up on stage to dance during Barbara Ann. Especially when Totten plays guitar while it's being held by a hot girl...come on, it's 2018. This is cheesy and embarrassing and sexist. 
Well i sure wouldn't mind if a gorgeous girl joined me onstage for a song every night.
But if it would make you happy, we could have a good looking guy join Scott for the solo some nights.


Nothing to do with guys or girls. It’s tacky and it’s continued moves like this since the 80s that keep the BB as B list entertainers on the party / state fair route when their musical output matches the A listers. Some fans are fine with that others are not.

Yep.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on August 01, 2018, 07:10:18 AM
Review

https://www.nwitimes.com/the-beach-boys-present-beloved-hits-in-concert/article_e0791c29-f93e-594f-beeb-f9fda594cb4a.html


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on August 01, 2018, 07:20:38 AM
The Beach Boys bring some sunshine to a rainy night in Alton.

https://www.riverbender.com/articles/details/iconic-beach-boys-entertain-the-house-despite-of-damp-night-on-alton-riverfront-29800.cfm


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on August 13, 2018, 06:30:44 AM
Cape Cod Times reporting Good Vibes

http://www.capecodtimes.com/news/20180812/beach-boys-bring-magic-in-waves


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 13, 2018, 07:12:55 PM
Cape Cod Times reporting Good Vibes

http://www.capecodtimes.com/news/20180812/beach-boys-bring-magic-in-waves


Nice of them to mention how Brian Wilson and CARL JARDINE are touring in Europe right now, after mentioning how "everyone knows the Beach Boys' story"...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on August 14, 2018, 08:41:26 AM
Cape Cod Times reporting Good Vibes

http://www.capecodtimes.com/news/20180812/beach-boys-bring-magic-in-waves


Nice of them to mention how Brian Wilson and CARL JARDINE are touring in Europe right now, after mentioning how "everyone knows the Beach Boys' story"...

It's amazing how many factual errors appear in these type of articles. Wrong names. Wrong names put to pictures. Always just basic 'checkable' flubs.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: acedecade75 on August 14, 2018, 09:00:17 PM
Cape Cod Times reporting Good Vibes

http://www.capecodtimes.com/news/20180812/beach-boys-bring-magic-in-waves


Nice of them to mention how Brian Wilson and CARL JARDINE are touring in Europe right now, after mentioning how "everyone knows the Beach Boys' story"...

I remember one time seeing that "Brian Johnson" was playing on the tour. :)

It's amazing how many factual errors appear in these type of articles. Wrong names. Wrong names put to pictures. Always just basic 'checkable' flubs.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: rickyroma on August 16, 2018, 01:23:41 PM
newbie to the board, but big favor to ask!  I am bringing my 3 yo son to the mike/bruce beach boys show this saturday and was curious as to how long the concerts have been running.  Setlists are long but I know a lot of these songs are short.  Looks to be an intermission as well.  this would be VERY helpful in terms of planning the lil guy's naps etc. 

I think it is tough to call it the beach boys as well, but my son won't care as long as he gets to shake his behind to surf songs  ;D


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 16, 2018, 02:14:21 PM
newbie to the board, but big favor to ask!  I am bringing my 3 yo son to the mike/bruce beach boys show this saturday and was curious as to how long the concerts have been running.  Setlists are long but I know a lot of these songs are short.  Looks to be an intermission as well.  this would be VERY helpful in terms of planning the lil guy's naps etc. 

I think it is tough to call it the beach boys as well, but my son won't care as long as he gets to shake his behind to surf songs  ;D

This link on setlist.fm will show you past setlists for Mike's band. That might help gauge how long your show might be:

https://www.setlist.fm/setlists/the-beach-boys-3d6c17b.html

Looks like the longer shows go into the 35-40 song range and feature an intermission, so I'm guessing around two hours give or take. Some shows (festivals, fairs, etc.) are shorter and sometimes don't have intermissions.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 16, 2018, 07:00:32 PM
newbie to the board, but big favor to ask!  I am bringing my 3 yo son to the mike/bruce beach boys show this saturday and was curious as to how long the concerts have been running.  Setlists are long but I know a lot of these songs are short.  Looks to be an intermission as well.  this would be VERY helpful in terms of planning the lil guy's naps etc. 

I think it is tough to call it the beach boys as well, but my son won't care as long as he gets to shake his behind to surf songs  ;D

In the past, it seems they've played longer shows at Ocean Grove. I would definitely expect it veer beyond 2.5 hours.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Uncle Walter on August 17, 2018, 09:50:33 AM
Saw the M&B Boys last night, my (admittedly negative) thoughts:

- The band and the quality of the show across the setlist couldn't have been more inconsistent. Some songs sounded fantastic (Darlin, Ole Betsy) but most songs sounded ragged and sloppy
- The tempos felt like they dragged a LOT... When I Grow Up for example felt like a dirge.
- Mike's voice is in decent shape for a guy his age but there were definite rough spots. He has no business singing Rhonda in its original key, for example.
- Mike's solo material sticks out like a sore thumb in the set and is clearly worse than the other songs in the show
- Bruce's harmonies were noticeably weak, but he sounded great on Disney Girls
- Cowsill and Totten stole the show, Cowsill with his rendition of Darlin' and Totten with Ole Betsy and Warmth of the Sun
- The band just felt under-rehearsed, which I know can't possibly be the case since they constantly tour the same material
- If you can pump Dennis' voice in for Do You Wanna Dance, you can definitely pump in Carl's for God Only Knows. Christian Love doesn't do an awful job but come on
- Foskett was not there. Is he not with the band anymore?
- Brian's band is just worlds above Mike's, and it's not even close. Better harmonies, better arrangements, better ingredients, better pizza, Papa John's
- The song the crowd got most excited for was Kokomo, sadly
- I'll add more as I think of it but honestly I'd give the show a 3.5/10. I'm glad I got to see Mike and Bruce in person, but it was overall a poor performance


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 17, 2018, 10:01:25 AM
Looking at some YouTube videos of last night's show, it's hard to tell, but someone is there in place of Foskett. My best guess based on height and posture is Randell Kirsch, who already subbed on a few dates early this year. It looks like Kirsch or whomever is also probably playing Foskett's guitar, so maybe it was a last-second thing. So it might just be a short temporary absence for Foskett. I dunno.

I see videos of Mike's show from 8/12 and Foskett is there.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on August 17, 2018, 11:24:25 AM
Yes, it appears to be Randell Kirsch filling in for Jeff Foskett.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Worzel Gummidge on August 17, 2018, 05:45:44 PM
Mike Love totally hit on my friend while on stage at the Connecticut show the other night (Aug. 15)!! Other people from the audience even came up to her after the show and congratulated her for catching his eye in such a blatantly obvious way lol. I would’ve been jealous of this attention she was getting from Dr. Love, but he also gave me a high five and let me sing a quick line on ‘Barbara Ann’ into the mic while we were dancing by the stage! Anyway, I wonder if this kind of thing is a common occurance... whatever the case, I found it incredibly amusing and it makes for a great memory!!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on August 17, 2018, 09:07:13 PM
Don't get replies saying Christian sounds *just* like Carl. He didn't & doesn't. Btw, fans who didn't catch Mike's special attention, isn't it luck, in fact? Why would anybody going to enjoy show be interested in catching band's attention? If you don't, you don't. What's the big deal. Fans shouldn't be interested in chatting with band etc. It doesn't make sense. Show is seeing/ hearing music. Am I right or am I right?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on August 18, 2018, 05:30:58 AM
I don't comment much here anymore because of the anti-Mike bias in the establishment and some of its posters (I much prefer to hang around with fans who respect that fact that both Brian and Mike were essential to the band success and can enjoy their both being out on the road doing their thing), but over the last 30 days, I've seen Brian/Al twice and Mike/Bruce three times, and going again to the latter's group tonight, so I feel I can comment on the state of both bands pretty fairly.

Mike/Bruce:

GOOD:

-Really tight lately.
-Cowsill drums like a madman.
-Really fun, energetic, lively when you're near the action.
-In my opinion, when you're sitting in your seat, Mike sounds pretty identifiable, like his 60s self.
-Bruce singing Disney Girls is always a nice part of the show.
-Great visuals behind them.
-I think Jeff fits more to the M&B show than to Brian, I like his voice better in this blend. He's apparently getting married again, so Randell Kirsch is filling in temporarily, and of course, he knows his stuff!

-NOT SO GOOD:

-At the shows I've seen, the setlist has shrunk a bit. 32, 34 and 34 songs. To be fair, this probably has more to do with the venues and restrictions.
-Pisces Bros needs to go. I can understand wanting to plug the new album, but just All The Love In Paris or Unleash The Love would serve this purpose.
-Why Do Fools Fall In Love & California Dreamin' - would love to see them replace these with something a little deeper in the Beach Boys catalog.


Brian/Al:

GOOD:

-It's BRIAN WILSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Band is always super duper duper great. Jim works perfectly in Nelson's former role.
-Al sounds fab as always.
-Respect and reverence for the music that you can palpably feel, more than the M&B band.

NOT SO GOOD:

-After 10+ times of seeing it, very very tired of Blondie's schtick. It takes up too much of the show.
-Brian doesn't sing enough.
-This is very understandable, but Brian's is singing the weakest I've ever heard him. Compare it to even the 2012 shows and the difference is audible.
-Too many car and surf cuts. Setlists from previous tours always spiced it up a lot more (in regards to non-PS sets). I want to hear more songs that are identifiable as Brian Wilson gems, not what M&B play to please the masses.


My recommendation? They are both awesome shows to see if you can, for different reasons. I've had a blast this summer because of all of these gentlemen.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on August 18, 2018, 06:46:00 AM
I couldn't agree more with your summary of each show.

I really don't understand the criticism of Mike's voice. I think his voice has held up really well for someone his age. Definitely not like Al's, but when you go to see Mike Love's Beach Boys show Mike's lead vocals sound pretty great in my opinion. I've seen The Beach Boys in concert every year since 2014, and I've never been disappointed. Cowsill's drumming is worth price of admission alone. But the harmonies are perfect, the band is tight, and most importantly, the show is fun. Even though we know it's not really THE BEACH BOYS, Mike and his crew put on a perfect Beach Boys show.

I love seeing Brian too. His band plays like a beautiful pop orchestra, whereas Mike's band is more rock n roll. Brian's band conveys the beauty of The Beach Boys music, whereas Mike's band conveys the fun of The Beach Boys music.

To each his own I suppose. I love both shows. I didn't get the chance to see a C50 show, but from what I can tell from videos, it combined the best of Mike and Brian's shows into one. Wish I could have seen one of those shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Worzel Gummidge on August 18, 2018, 07:21:09 AM
Btw, fans who didn't catch Mike's special attention, isn't it luck, in fact? Why would anybody going to enjoy show be interested in catching band's attention? If you don't, you don't. What's the big deal. Fans shouldn't be interested in chatting with band etc. It doesn't make sense. Show is seeing/ hearing music. Am I right or am I right?
Hmm, not sure I entirely agree. We didn’t go to the show expecting to get close to the stage at all, so that being said, my entire story was just icing on top of the Beach Boys cake. Given the chance, who wouldn’t want to be inches from a rocking group of highly respectable living legends? To me, concerts are more than just ‘seeing and hearing’, it’s about the whole experience. And speaking for performing artists, it’s always a great feeling to connect with the audience. After 50+ years, I’d say Mike’s gotten quite creative with that!


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NateRuvin on August 18, 2018, 01:08:01 PM
Looks like Ike is currently filling in for Foskett.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kotg4tj8UfQ


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on August 18, 2018, 05:28:47 PM
Mike Love totally hit on my friend while on stage at the Connecticut show the other night (Aug. 15)!! Other people from the audience even came up to her after the show and congratulated her for catching his eye in such a blatantly obvious way lol. I would’ve been jealous of this attention she was getting from Dr. Love, but he also gave me a high five and let me sing a quick line on ‘Barbara Ann’ into the mic while we were dancing by the stage! Anyway, I wonder if this kind of thing is a common occurance... whatever the case, I found it incredibly amusing and it makes for a great memory!!

Very common. Same tasteless display a few days later.

https://youtu.be/epSoNfR5jbo


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on August 18, 2018, 08:04:51 PM
Mike Love totally hit on my friend while on stage at the Connecticut show the other night (Aug. 15)!! Other people from the audience even came up to her after the show and congratulated her for catching his eye in such a blatantly obvious way lol. I would’ve been jealous of this attention she was getting from Dr. Love, but he also gave me a high five and let me sing a quick line on ‘Barbara Ann’ into the mic while we were dancing by the stage! Anyway, I wonder if this kind of thing is a common occurance... whatever the case, I found it incredibly amusing and it makes for a great memory!!

Very common. Same tasteless display a few days later.

https://youtu.be/epSoNfR5jbo

Yup, the same old tacky, legacy trashing antics by the dirty old man himself(myKe luHv) along with his crew of dependents who act out his twisted fantasies. Such a pathetic ending to a once treasured band.  ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on August 18, 2018, 08:06:03 PM
Mike sounds good in those clips. I wasn’t able to go when they were close to me this week, had a conflict .


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 18, 2018, 10:55:22 PM
Mike Love totally hit on my friend while on stage at the Connecticut show the other night (Aug. 15)!! Other people from the audience even came up to her after the show and congratulated her for catching his eye in such a blatantly obvious way lol. I would’ve been jealous of this attention she was getting from Dr. Love, but he also gave me a high five and let me sing a quick line on ‘Barbara Ann’ into the mic while we were dancing by the stage! Anyway, I wonder if this kind of thing is a common occurance... whatever the case, I found it incredibly amusing and it makes for a great memory!!

Very common. Same tasteless display a few days later.

https://youtu.be/epSoNfR5jbo

Yup, the same old tacky, legacy trashing antics by the dirty old man himself(myKe luHv) along with his crew of dependents who act out his twisted fantasies. Such a pathetic ending to a once treasured band.  ::)
I think we'd love Mike if he was a broken down old man who had to be carried to his microphone at center stage, and just sat there looking miserable as he sang the greatest hits for the billionth time.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on August 19, 2018, 03:26:55 AM
Huh? ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on August 19, 2018, 03:28:37 AM
Lonely Luhvster.... ;)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Uncle Walter on August 19, 2018, 08:28:20 AM
-After 10+ times of seeing it, very very tired of Blondie's schtick. It takes up too much of the show.
-Brian doesn't sing enough.
-This is very understandable, but Brian's is singing the weakest I've ever heard him. Compare it to even the 2012 shows and the difference is audible.
-Too many car and surf cuts. Setlists from previous tours always spiced it up a lot more (in regards to non-PS sets). I want to hear more songs that are identifiable as Brian Wilson gems, not what M&B play to please the masses.
Totally agree. Blondie's gimmick wears very thin after a while.

Brian's voice has gone really south since 2015 or so. The No Pier Pressure shows were the last time Brian's voice was in good shape for the shows. It was gradually declining since the BWPS shows, but the last two or three years of touring have been especially rough. I think this goes hand in hand with Brian taking less of the leads. I'd be more than happy to hear him sing more even in lowered keys, but I'm getting the impression that it's not just the high notes he struggles with but also the breath support.

And on the last thing, also dead on. Brian's show has shifted from a showcase of Brian's best songwriting to a showcase of Beach Boys hits. The thing I keep hearing is that Brian wants a more rock-oriented show with less verbose songs.

I really don't understand the criticism of Mike's voice. I think his voice has held up really well for someone his age. Definitely not like Al's, but when you go to see Mike Love's Beach Boys show Mike's lead vocals sound pretty great in my opinion.
The only time I felt like Mike was struggling vocally was on Rhonda. Otherwise he was solid.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: marcella27 on August 19, 2018, 08:46:16 AM
I've seen both bands a few times in the last years and I would say Brian, Mike and Bruce are all struggling vocally. Al is incredible. 

I saw Mike and Bruce in august 2015, May 2017, August 2017, and July 2018. At the show last month, his singing was just not great. Very very nasal and his singing was quite flat in parts. And I say that trying to be as objective as possible.

I saw Brian in June 2015, a ton of times on the first leg of the PS tour in 2016, and most recently in September 2017. As we all know he has good and not-as-good nights but yes, his singing has declined markedly since C50.

The reality is that singing is very physical and age takes a serious toll. There aren't many singers in their mid- to late-seventies that can compete with their younger voices.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: baseball95 on August 19, 2018, 08:55:06 AM
In case anyone is interested Foskett is out because his daughter is getting married this weekend just saw on his Facebook.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on August 19, 2018, 08:10:29 PM
Anyone catch them on TV today after the Little League game ?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 20, 2018, 07:34:24 AM

And on the last thing, also dead on. Brian's show has shifted from a showcase of Brian's best songwriting to a showcase of Beach Boys hits.

While Brian's setlist hasn't changed a great deal in the last couple years, I'd hardly call it a "hits" set. Beyond including all of "Pet Sounds" at many shows (from which most songs are most assuredly not "hits"), the show has included a number of songs that aren't hits and weren't regulars for decades in BB setlists, such as Little Honda, Salt Lake City, Wake the World, Add Some Music to Your Day, California Saga: California, Feel Flows, Wild Honey. If we go back to the last 3 or so years, we can also include songs like Cotton Fields, Then I Kissed Her, Honkin' Down the Highway, Susie Cincinnati, She Knows Me Too Well, Hushabye, This Whole World, Surf's Up, Busy Doin' Nothin', Girl Don't Tell Me, Drive In, as well as "No Pier Pressure" songs, and that's not touching on the more rare tracks only performed once or a few times like "I'm Broke", etc.

Characterizing the nature of a given Brian Wilson setlist requires a great deal of historical perspective rather than simply what one individual feels are "hits" or "well known" songs. If one wants to argue the setlist has been pretty stagnant for the last couple of years, and to some degree for the last 3-4, I can't disagree with that.

But in terms of an overall historical/setlist perspective, Brian still does a good amount of relative "deep cuts."

Maybe some folks don't remember 1990s Beach Boys setlists, which got VERY stale at various points. Remember how *mind-blowing* that late 1993 "Boxed Set" setlist was?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 20, 2018, 07:38:32 AM
It does indeed look like first Randell Kirsch and then Eichenburger have filled in for Foskett. Seems kind of spur of the moment to require two different replacements and have them playing Foskett's guitars if in fact this was something planned for quite some time. But in any event, it's sounding like it's a short-term thing.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on August 20, 2018, 08:49:38 AM
Good Vibes continue

http://www.sungazette.com/news/top-news/2018/08/the-beach-boys-attract-diverse-crowd-at-series/


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 20, 2018, 11:51:03 AM
I realize it was an *after* game gig, but one can't help compare playing an emptying out little league park to playing major league baseball stadiums in the 80s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Hd9OI9qGY


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on August 20, 2018, 12:46:11 PM
(https://s33.postimg.cc/853r5tr9r/Screen_Shot_2018-08-20_at_3.47.25_PM.png)

"If I told them once I've told them a hundred times, to put Spinal Tap first and puppet show last!"





Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on August 20, 2018, 01:07:04 PM
Not a great look and some odd set list choices for that type of show . The Mike solo track absolutely died a slow death and what a weird one to have his daughter sing WOTS


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Rocker on August 21, 2018, 11:41:26 AM
Here's another video. It starts at 7 mins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCXlgIXVblc


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 21, 2018, 11:45:53 AM
Here's another video. It starts at 7 mins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCXlgIXVblc

I realize that is just one camera perspective and not optimal quality in audio either, but that was pathetic. Hardly anyone there and zero energy from the crowd whatsoever. All the lead vocals were rough from all the "loves" that afternoon...band seemed tight as usual, but lead vox were falling mad flat all across the board.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on August 21, 2018, 12:17:30 PM
Here's another video. It starts at 7 mins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCXlgIXVblc

I realize that is just one camera perspective and not optimal quality in audio either, but that was pathetic. Hardly anyone there and zero energy from the crowd whatsoever. All the lead vocals were rough from all the "loves" that afternoon...band seemed tight as usual, but lead vox were falling mad flat all across the board.

Ya gotta luHv it. myKe luHv and his band of unknowns (otherwise known as the fake Beach Boys) playing for a rather thin crowd to begin with. Even with them entertaining(?) after the game, they couldn't produce a larger crown than that? Huh? The LL game itself was far more entertaining and the miniature audience looked bored as hell. Just goes to show what the luHvster will do for the old buckaroo. I'm waiting for the day when this is the only type of gig they can get. :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on August 21, 2018, 12:20:32 PM
(https://s33.postimg.cc/853r5tr9r/Screen_Shot_2018-08-20_at_3.47.25_PM.png)

"If I told them once I've told them a hundred times, to put Spinal Tap first and puppet show last!"





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Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on August 21, 2018, 05:24:24 PM
Ambha Love's voice just not my cup of tea. It's not that she sings badly, I don;t know exactly what it is, she always sounds like she's straining. Nails on a blackboard to me.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on August 21, 2018, 05:31:01 PM
Agree, Tony S. That said, she was cute in "Santa Goes To Kokomo". Fun seasonal remake.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on August 21, 2018, 10:04:53 PM
Who thought booking that gig was a good idea?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 21, 2018, 11:12:49 PM
Who thought booking that gig was a good idea?
Probably the person working for Mike who thinks to himself "what can I do to get those bunch of haters over at Smiley Smile going at it again?"
BTW, these "fake Beach Boys" are licensed to perform under that name by...you know it...the real Beach Boys themselves.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 22, 2018, 07:03:53 AM
Who thought booking that gig was a good idea?
Probably the person working for Mike who thinks to himself "what can I do to get those bunch of haters over at Smiley Smile going at it again?"
BTW, these "fake Beach Boys" are licensed to perform under that name by...you know it...the real Beach Boys themselves.

Mike's band is licensed by BRI, which is Brian, Al, Mike, and Carl's estate. Not by any measure quite the same thing as "the real Beach Boys themselves."

The license, as far as we've been told, came from one vote back in 1998/99, a vote that most likely was *not* unanimous, and did not involve non-corporate BB members nor, of course, deceased members.

Nobody at this stage, on this board anyway, seems to *not* understand that Mike's band is licensed by BRI.

That being said, even a cursory understanding/familiarity with the band's history and their comments over the years would tell one that "complicated" would be the best way to describe the other corporate members' attitude towards the license. "Ambivalent at best" would be how I would describe it. I won't go into all the details that I've gone into a thousand times before, but at this stage Mike and "the license" sort of have a common-law marriage that cannot be easily broken by any outsider, and that doesn't have, in 2018, anybody seemingly interested in doing so. Not wanting to pay lawyers thousands if not millions to take a decade to litigate the license issue is far from a unanimous, effervescent endorsement of Mike having the license.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: tpesky on August 22, 2018, 04:21:00 PM
The license has nothing to do with it. That gig was a disaster


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 23, 2018, 06:48:31 AM
A pro-shot (from the ESPN feed?) segment featuring "Unleash the Love" was posted in the "pro-shot" thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4u-I1Mln2c

Keeping in mind that I'm well aware that Brian and Al have biffed lyrics many times over the years, it's weird and kind of ironic that Mike totally blanks on the words to the *title track* to his *own* solo album in this clip.

Apparently, while even some quite positive reviews of his shows have noted the unremarkable nature of the new solo tracks he performs in concerts, the song appears to be unremarkable enough to Mike himself that he blanked on the words to the title track to his solo album even though he's been performing the song live at most of his concerts for about a year now.

I was also surprised to see a weird attempt to corral many of the small crowd to, for some inexplicable reason, form a big "UNLEASH THE LOVE" sign.

In other news, I believe Foskett is back from his hiatus.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 23, 2018, 10:20:45 PM
A pro-shot (from the ESPN feed?) segment featuring "Unleash the Love" was posted in the "pro-shot" thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4u-I1Mln2c

Keeping in mind that I'm well aware that Brian and Al have biffed lyrics many times over the years, it's weird and kind of ironic that Mike totally blanks on the words to the *title track* to his *own* solo album in this clip.

Apparently, while even some quite positive reviews of his shows have noted the unremarkable nature of the new solo tracks he performs in concerts, the song appears to be unremarkable enough to Mike himself that he blanked on the words to the title track to his solo album even though he's been performing the song live at most of his concerts for about a year now.

I was also surprised to see a weird attempt to corral many of the small crowd to, for some inexplicable reason, form a big "UNLEASH THE LOVE" sign.

In other news, I believe Foskett is back from his hiatus.
Yeah, what a loser Mike Love is! Still trying to push that terrible autotuned album that nobody bought! He can't even remember the lyrics to his own lame songs! He should just stick to songs about surfing, cars, and girls.  >:D


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on August 24, 2018, 03:32:40 PM
Got notice today - Beach Boys in Lafayette, LA, Wed October 3.

Might consider going. Biloxi is closer but a lot more expensive .


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on August 25, 2018, 04:38:00 AM
What a complete embarrassment that video was. Not only is it a bad song it's a bad performance.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on August 25, 2018, 08:09:16 AM
More December dates for Mike and Bruce:
Dec. 4 -- Greenburg, PA -- Palace Theatre
Dec. 13 -- Wilmington, DE -- The Grand


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 25, 2018, 07:57:21 PM
What a complete embarrassment that video was. Not only is it a bad song it's a bad performance.
So maybe what we should do is, contact any potential venues Mike might be talking to, and show them this video. "You want to book the Beach Boys? This is what they look and sound like in 2018!"  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on August 25, 2018, 08:04:04 PM
Mike is struggling... ;)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on August 26, 2018, 12:45:23 AM
Man that Unleash the Love song is so poor. Reminds of something the band in one of those kids programs from the eighties like saved by the bell or california dreams would come up with.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Zesterz on August 26, 2018, 02:12:31 AM
Usually, judging , say, a Youtube video or a mobile phone capture is unkind to the performer. But this is a well shot, close up clear film and records a song which does not merit the cost of filming. I have never seen ML struggle so. And , blind to the quality level drop it gives the act, when he is licensed to do HUNDREDS of well written tunes on which he used to excel.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 26, 2018, 10:04:23 PM
Usually, judging , say, a Youtube video or a mobile phone capture is unkind to the performer. But this is a well shot, close up clear film and records a song which does not merit the cost of filming. I have never seen ML struggle so. And , blind to the quality level drop it gives the act, when he is licensed to do HUNDREDS of well written tunes on which he used to excel.
Mike needs to give up on promoting his new material; he should take a cue from his famous cousin, just do the oldies, that's all we want to hear.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on August 27, 2018, 09:06:21 AM
Call it my OCD or whatever, but it is odd to me to see someone wearing their own tribute shirt, in this case every time Mike looked down at his hands he'd see his own image staring up at him on those rolled-up sleeves. I don't know...if it's done as humor that's one thing, but the word narcissism comes to mind just the same.

The 80's 90's TV teen band comparison "hey kids, let's put on our own show..." kind of scene is spot-on.  ;D  It seems every teen sitcom or show had an episode where the "kids" decide to form a band, and the resulting music did sound a lot like this. I was thinking too the old Super Bowl halftime shows before major artists started getting the bookings. Up With People, etc.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 27, 2018, 11:40:11 PM
Call it my OCD or whatever, but it is odd to me to see someone wearing their own tribute shirt, in this case every time Mike looked down at his hands he'd see his own image staring up at him on those rolled-up sleeves. I don't know...if it's done as humor that's one thing, but the word narcissism comes to mind just the same.

The 80's 90's TV teen band comparison "hey kids, let's put on our own show..." kind of scene is spot-on.  ;D  It seems every teen sitcom or show had an episode where the "kids" decide to form a band, and the resulting music did sound a lot like this. I was thinking too the old Super Bowl halftime shows before major artists started getting the bookings. Up With People, etc.
Full House had an episode like that. Stephanie starts a band with a couple friends, and they play Ace of Base's hit "The Sign". And not a single Beach Boy in sight.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: the captain on August 28, 2018, 05:09:10 AM
Review of their MN State Fair show last night. Not much love for Love solo material or Stamos’s Forever.

http://www.startribune.com/beach-boys-and-righteous-brothers-thrill-crowds-at-state-fair/491859921/


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on August 28, 2018, 07:19:13 AM
Review of their MN State Fair show last night. Not much love for Love solo material or Stamos’s Forever.

http://www.startribune.com/beach-boys-and-righteous-brothers-thrill-crowds-at-state-fair/491859921/

Love indulged in a few songs from his 2017 solo album, including the forgettable “All the Love in Paris” and “Unleashed Love.”


...Apparently, forgettable enough that the reviewer can't remember the name of the song!   :lol



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 30, 2018, 12:09:54 AM
Review of their MN State Fair show last night. Not much love for Love solo material or Stamos’s Forever.

http://www.startribune.com/beach-boys-and-righteous-brothers-thrill-crowds-at-state-fair/491859921/

Love indulged in a few songs from his 2017 solo album, including the forgettable “All the Love in Paris” and “Unleashed Love.”


...Apparently, forgettable enough that the reviewer can't remember the name of the song!   :lol


:lol
Well, the critic had to show how hip he is by dissing ML solo material. It's in the rock critics code of laws, section 3, paragraph 409.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on August 30, 2018, 07:01:43 AM
I'd actually say that both Mike's album, as well as his tours in general, get off pretty easy as far as critics go.

Most pieces on both his album when it came out, and his tours/shows in general, get pretty puff-piece-ish reviews.

I don't recall vast swaths of (deserved) bad reviews for "Unleash" last year.

And the pieces on his tours usually consist of the local paper doing a total puff piece prior to the show (to promote it), featuring the same old "why are you so awesome and hard working?" type of questions, and when actual reviews of his shows come out, they usually ignore or don't heavily weigh or criticize the lack of original (still living) band members on stage, or the ratio of backing band members singing leads, etc.

Mike's show is, musically speaking, usually pretty tight and professional. Most criticisms would tend to be concerning the use of the name, the lack of other living members on stage, the number of non-Beach Boys singing leads, etc. So when shows ignore that and just focus on the quality of the singing and playing, the shows deservedly don't get many poor reviews.

Mike's solo stuff has always been the low point of his shows; if he wasn't touring using the "Beach Boys" name, I'd actually probably give him a tiny bit of props for having the motivation to *continue* to make the audience listen to "Pisces Brothers" after numerous years, and to listen to 3 or 4 songs from "Unleash" almost a year after it came out. It's ironic that Mike has been more stubborn about continuing to play stuff from his "new" album than the Beach Boys were back in the 80s and 90s concerning new albums, where usually most songs from a new album would be gone from the setlist in less than a year. They were doing 4-5 songs from BB '85 for instance, but within a few months it was down to just "Getcha Back."

Back to "Unleash"; it deserved *more* poor reviews. It probably benefitted from simply a lack of much attention from the rock press. I'd say any of "Looking Back With Love", "Summer in Paradise", and certainly the 2004 circulating collection of Mike's music, are all much better than "Unleash."


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: the captain on August 30, 2018, 07:24:53 AM

I don't recall vast swaths of (deserved) bad reviews for "Unleash" last year.
...
Back to "Unleash"; it deserved *more* poor reviews. It probably benefitted from simply a lack of much attention from the rock press. I'd say any of "Looking Back With Love", "Summer in Paradise", and certainly the 2004 circulating collection of Mike's music, are all much better than "Unleash."

I think it was mostly ignored, as you say in that latter part of what I quoted. It’s not as if much/any relevant music press liked the piece of sh*t. It was (rightly) ignored as just another irrelevant release.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 04, 2018, 07:58:45 AM
Mike and Bruce will bring the "reason for the season" to the Strathmore in MD on 12/10...Monday night, with an hour drive down, work the next day...and for what? Might wait until the tour kicks off to see what this is all about and consider a ticket then.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on September 06, 2018, 07:31:09 PM
Longer piece
https://www.newjerseystage.com/articles/2018/08/31/unleash-the-love-the-beach-boys-live-at-the-great-auditorium/


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 17, 2018, 06:12:22 PM
Definitely a "no" on the Strathmore for me...they'll be in Baltimore Sunday 12/2 for a 6pm show...still waiting to see what the Christmas show actually looks like...


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 17, 2018, 06:23:35 PM
Why torture yourself? ;)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on September 17, 2018, 06:30:45 PM
Why torture yourself? ;)

 :woot :woot :woot


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 17, 2018, 06:42:29 PM
Why torture yourself? ;)

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 17, 2018, 07:11:17 PM
There is only vocal harmony with the BW band... 8)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: jmc on September 17, 2018, 09:02:31 PM
I attended the Mt. Winery show lastnight in the SF Bay area. The crowd was very much into the classics, but rather motionless and with minimal applause for his (Love's) new solo work. I went with a group of casual fans all of which thought the new songs were pretty weak. I thought they were awful. All The Love in Paris being the best out of the three...but still meh.

How many damn songs will he write that includes his last name in the title? Does he think we all believe he's really clever? Does he not realize how lame that is? Again, a group of casual fans I was with (who supplied me with a free ticket) all leaned over and whispered to me...how lame. I can only imagine what Dennis would think.

"All the Love in Paris", "Unleash the Love", and on the way into the venue they were playing random Beach Boy and Mike Love songs, one of which seemed to have the title "Make Love Not War"....I wouldn't know as I wouldn't buy the album.

BTW, it seems very shady to plug your solo album and play three tracks at a show billed as the Beach Boys. Totten's and Cowsil's playing/singing were the highlights lastnight....



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 17, 2018, 09:08:38 PM
There is only vocal harmony with the BW band... 8)

Which I'm delighted to hear at The Kennedy Center on November 5th again. Why are you on this thread if that's all you have to contribute?


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Dave in KC on September 17, 2018, 10:20:31 PM
Why torture yourself? ;)

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.

So I'm not the only one who has reported unsolicited verbal abuse from BJ.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lonely Summer on September 18, 2018, 12:02:05 AM
I attended the Mt. Winery show lastnight in the SF Bay area. The crowd was very much into the classics, but rather motionless and with minimal applause for his (Love's) new solo work. I went with a group of casual fans all of which thought the new songs were pretty weak. I thought they were awful. All The Love in Paris being the best out of the three...but still meh.

How many damn songs will he write that includes his last name in the title? Does he think we all believe he's really clever? Does he not realize how lame that is? Again, a group of casual fans I was with (who supplied me with a free ticket) all leaned over and whispered to me...how lame. I can only imagine what Dennis would think.

"All the Love in Paris", "Unleash the Love", and on the way into the venue they were playing random Beach Boy and Mike Love songs, one of which seemed to have the title "Make Love Not War"....I wouldn't know as I wouldn't buy the album.

BTW, it seems very shady to plug your solo album and play three tracks at a show billed as the Beach Boys. Totten's and Cowsil's playing/singing were the highlights lastnight....


Okay, i'll accept that; and Brian and Al and Blondie shouldn't be doing Beach Boys songs in a concert advertised as a Brian Wilson show.
Bring on Melt Away, There's So Many, Meet Me in My Dreams Tonight, Let's Go to Heaven in My Car, Orange Crate Art, San Francisco, Palm Tree and Moon, Where Has Love Been, Lay Down Burden, ...well, you get the idea.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 18, 2018, 12:26:47 AM
Why torture yourself? ;)

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.

So I'm not the only one who has reported unsolicited verbal abuse from BJ.

There was a report of it here at the Woodlands Tx c50 show too.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 18, 2018, 04:05:27 AM
Why torture yourself? ;)

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.

So I'm not the only one who has reported unsolicited verbal abuse from BJ.

There was a report of it here at the Woodlands Tx c50 show too.

It was the most bizarre interaction with a "celebrity" (if you want to call him that) I have ever encountered. He went out of his way to make a problem.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on September 18, 2018, 06:26:25 AM
I attended the Mt. Winery show lastnight in the SF Bay area. The crowd was very much into the classics, but rather motionless and with minimal applause for his (Love's) new solo work. I went with a group of casual fans all of which thought the new songs were pretty weak. I thought they were awful. All The Love in Paris being the best out of the three...but still meh.

How many damn songs will he write that includes his last name in the title? Does he think we all believe he's really clever? Does he not realize how lame that is? Again, a group of casual fans I was with (who supplied me with a free ticket) all leaned over and whispered to me...how lame. I can only imagine what Dennis would think.

"All the Love in Paris", "Unleash the Love", and on the way into the venue they were playing random Beach Boy and Mike Love songs, one of which seemed to have the title "Make Love Not War"....I wouldn't know as I wouldn't buy the album.

BTW, it seems very shady to plug your solo album and play three tracks at a show billed as the Beach Boys. Totten's and Cowsil's playing/singing were the highlights lastnight....


Okay, i'll accept that; and Brian and Al and Blondie shouldn't be doing Beach Boys songs in a concert advertised as a Brian Wilson show.
Bring on Melt Away, There's So Many, Meet Me in My Dreams Tonight, Let's Go to Heaven in My Car, Orange Crate Art, San Francisco, Palm Tree and Moon, Where Has Love Been, Lay Down Burden, ...well, you get the idea.

I don't understand why people occasionally draw this comparison. Mike's tour and Brian's tour are not the same logistically or in terms of billing/licensing set up.

Brian doesn't license the use of the name "Brian Wilson", whereas BRI lets Mike use the "Beach Boys" name for a specified fee. Mike is using a name he doesn't solely own to plug his solo stuff, whereas Brian is using his own name.

So long as Mike tours under a BAND name, one he is only LICENSING, and Brian tours under his OWN name, the two tours will not be entirely comparable.

Now, obviously, any band can perform any songs they want on stage. Both Mike and Brian can perform nothing but REO Speedwagon and Eminem songs if they want.

But let's not pretend that Mike paying to license use of the "Beach Boys" name while plugging his NEW solo material is the "same" as Brian performing Beach Boys songs at his shows. Not only does Mike plug his solo material under a licensed "Beach Boys" banner, but also blurs the line (in my opinion) between what is "solo" and what is "Beach Boys" material.

Not to mention, Brian mostly only performs songs he wrote or co-wrote (there are occasional exceptions), while Mike performs a slew of songs he had no hand in writing.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: B.E. on September 18, 2018, 06:38:12 AM
Now, obviously, any band can perform any songs they want on stage. Both Mike and Brian can perform nothing but REO Speedwagon and Eminem songs if they want.

Brian can. Mike can't. Either Mike would lose the license or BRI would lose the trademark.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 18, 2018, 07:23:15 AM
Why torture yourself? ;)

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.

But you've had other good interactions with Bruce, yeah? He's probably undiagnosed bipolar, but whatever. He's been more than nice to me several times, and one time he was a bit prickly. He's really the one Beach Boy you can delve into rare album tracks and session work, and he'll talk to you about it! You wanna meet these guys, that's the risk you take. He's in his mid 70s and travels around in a bus 200 days out of the year, and people are always wanting to talk to him. You'd probably be a grump sometimes, too.

Your postings in regard to the BB band on this board were really positive pre-Bruce brushing you off on his way to the tour bus after a show. Ever since that experience, you seem sour on them. I get it, but there's not enough time for that. Pretty soon, you'll be able to see NO original Beach Boys. There will be cover bands touring the country, and that's the only way you'll be able to hear this music live.

Do yourself a favor - go see Brian as many times as is feasible, go see Mike/Bruce as many times as is feasible. Once they're gone, they're gone. You'll be sad and you'll be sorry. Go make a new memory with Bruce if you can.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 18, 2018, 07:32:00 AM
Why torture yourself? ;)

 :woot :woot :woot

Guitarfool - since you asked elsewhere - postings like these that are allowed is the reason I no longer am a regular contributor to this board.

I am all for meaningful discussion of The Beach Boys - and understand some will not like the Mike/Bruce band no matter how talented they are or how much they've stepped up their game since the 'Duke of Earl' days - but what's the point of allowing them to be bashed them without substance?

If there were posts where one contributor said "BRIAN'S OLD!" and the next contributor said "YEAH! BOO BRIAN!", you'd be pissed and probably least give them a warning.

Saying Mike Love's new album is bad because it's loaded with autotune and full of remakes is one thing (which is something I would agree with completely) but numerous postings by the two above being allowed makes this place seem like a biased community where it's OK to sh*t on Mike and Bruce just because, and I don't think that's right.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 18, 2018, 08:05:21 AM
There is only vocal harmony with the BW band... 8)

Which I'm delighted to hear at The Kennedy Center on November 5th again. Why are you on this thread if that's all you have to contribute?
Sorry man, was a little "buzzed" watching my chicago bears win a MNF football game last night. You are a fan's fan seeing all the shows from M&B and BW band! :bw


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on September 18, 2018, 08:28:42 AM
Why torture yourself? ;)

 :woot :woot :woot

Guitarfool - since you asked elsewhere - postings like these that are allowed is the reason I no longer am a regular contributor to this board.

I am all for meaningful discussion of The Beach Boys - and understand some will not like the Mike/Bruce band no matter how talented they are or how much they've stepped up their game since the 'Duke of Earl' days - but what's the point of allowing them to be bashed them without substance?

If there were posts where one contributor said "BRIAN'S OLD!" and the next contributor said "YEAH! BOO BRIAN!", you'd be pissed and probably least give them a warning.

Saying Mike Love's new album is bad because it's loaded with autotune and full of remakes is one thing (which is something I would agree with completely) but numerous postings by the two above being allowed makes this place seem like a biased community where it's OK to sh*t on Mike and Bruce just because, and I don't think that's right.

Since there's some kind of pill for just about everything these days, how about one for making one's skin a bit thicker?  ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 18, 2018, 08:33:42 AM
I would take a pill to deal with Bruce, WTF is up with insulting people at shows?

Billy and rubbersoul13 have firsthand stories of "negative" Bruce behavior far beyond "its all about the music" at M&B shows.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 18, 2018, 12:23:29 PM
I would take a pill to deal with Bruce, WTF is up with insulting people at shows?

Billy and rubbersoul13 have firsthand stories of "negative" Bruce behavior far beyond "its all about the music" at M&B shows.

Not just us either!

I've been very critical of Mike through the years but I respect his talent. I have no love for Bruce at all.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: CenturyDeprived on September 18, 2018, 12:44:40 PM
Review of their MN State Fair show last night. Not much love for Love solo material or Stamos’s Forever.

http://www.startribune.com/beach-boys-and-righteous-brothers-thrill-crowds-at-state-fair/491859921/

Love indulged in a few songs from his 2017 solo album, including the forgettable “All the Love in Paris” and “Unleashed Love.”


...Apparently, forgettable enough that the reviewer can't remember the name of the song!   :lol


:lol
Well, the critic had to show how hip he is by dissing ML solo material. It's in the rock critics code of laws, section 3, paragraph 409.

Just the song's name, with the word "Unleash", is enough to generate unintended chuckles, so it's understandable.

"Unleash" conjures images of unleashing dogs or unleashing trouser snakes... so to hear a famous musician - who fashions themselves to be one of the all-time great rock wordsmiths (and reminds interviewers of that repeatedly over and over and over and over and over again) use that clunky word in a song title is just gonna cause many listeners to start off on the wrong foot, right off the bat.

That, and the song also sucks, truly it does. (And I say that being not someone who hates every Mike solo song). And the album cover image tying in the "unleash" imagery is really, really, really laughable. Every person I've showed it to has busted out laughing. That's an unfortunate reality. Not sure if the unbelievably cliche dove imagery or Mike Love wearing a Mike Love hat is funnier. We could take votes to decide, I suppose.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 18, 2018, 12:56:04 PM
Unleash the trouser snake! :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on September 18, 2018, 01:08:59 PM
 
 :lol
Unleash the Crotch Pheasant.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 18, 2018, 01:36:25 PM
Any videos from recent performances?

 


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 18, 2018, 02:21:49 PM
Unleash the trouser snake! :lol



 :lol
Unleash the Crotch Pheasant.


Any videos from recent performances?

 


Say what.......?  :o


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 18, 2018, 06:24:09 PM
Why torture yourself? ;)

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.

But you've had other good interactions with Bruce, yeah? He's probably undiagnosed bipolar, but whatever. He's been more than nice to me several times, and one time he was a bit prickly. He's really the one Beach Boy you can delve into rare album tracks and session work, and he'll talk to you about it! You wanna meet these guys, that's the risk you take. He's in his mid 70s and travels around in a bus 200 days out of the year, and people are always wanting to talk to him. You'd probably be a grump sometimes, too.

Your postings in regard to the BB band on this board were really positive pre-Bruce brushing you off on his way to the tour bus after a show. Ever since that experience, you seem sour on them. I get it, but there's not enough time for that. Pretty soon, you'll be able to see NO original Beach Boys. There will be cover bands touring the country, and that's the only way you'll be able to hear this music live.

Do yourself a favor - go see Brian as many times as is feasible, go see Mike/Bruce as many times as is feasible. Once they're gone, they're gone. You'll be sad and you'll be sorry. Go make a new memory with Bruce if you can.

You're not wrong. I also have a lot of respect and admiration for Scott Totten and John Cowsill. It's always a treat to hear them handle the catalog so carefully. As for new memories though, I'll just stay away. I've had lots and lots of interactions with Mike and Bruce. They've been nothing but excellent with Mike. You're right about Bruce. They've gone both ways. What bothered me about Bruce last summer, was that I did not engage or deserve the comment he made. It was a bit more than "slagging off". For those new to the party, I was waiting in a specific location given to me to meet John Cowsill after a concert to have my photo signed, near the tour bus...like 15-20 feet from the bus. As each band member came out to go on the bus (Mike included) I said Goodnight and thanked them for a great show, they all replied accordingly and kept walking. Out comes Bruce...I think I managed to get out "Hi Bruce, Great show..." before I was interrupted with him screaming "NOPE! NOT GONNA DO IT!" (I can only assume that he assumed the photo in my hand was for him to sign) so I replied "I'm sorry, I'm waiting for Mr. Cowsill to sign my photo." as he walked to the bus, stomped up the steps and shouted "Well all RIGHT then Mr. MAAAAAAN" and slammed the door to the bus.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 18, 2018, 06:30:14 PM
What an asshole


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 18, 2018, 06:30:27 PM
Ouch man, you didn’t deserve that at all. Between two shows and a meet/ greet, Al and Blondie were great in personal experience. BW was quiet and I don’t blame him in a random M&G situation.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 18, 2018, 06:38:22 PM
Never went to a meet and greet (got there too late :(  ) but after the show I talked with quite a few members of the band. Paul especially was great, as was Al. Matt recognized my wife (from Facebook perhaps?). Darian was...I don't know. Perhaps was tired after the show.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 18, 2018, 06:39:26 PM
Darian was great when I met him, we talked about the fake beards in summer dreams! ;D


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 18, 2018, 07:45:27 PM
He came across as being uncomfortable when I met him...my daughter had told him she "liked his music" and he kind of got irritated and said "that's not my music". I of course explained to Jaymie that he just helped bring Brian's music to life live, but he seemed a little uncomfortable through the whole exchange. I kinda feel bad about the whole thing, even now 3 years later.

Had a conversation with Nelson waiting in line for the restroom :lol  Pretty much everyone was cool, aside from a visibly drunk Scott.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Dave in KC on September 18, 2018, 09:29:31 PM
I would take a pill to deal with Bruce, WTF is up with insulting people at shows?

Billy and rubbersoul13 have firsthand stories of "negative" Bruce behavior far beyond "its all about the music" at M&B shows.

Please include me on this list. But my bad experience came in 1985 at midnight when the band was checking into a hotel. I knew they were coming and positioned myself to have a great moment. It happened as planned, except for Bruce sticking his head in my car and admonishing me for having my children up so late.  We were 10 minutes from home. He is a strange bird.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Dave in KC on September 18, 2018, 09:38:51 PM
I truly believe that the personalities of Mike and Bruce was a match made in heaven. Their "togetherness" was and is a no-brainer to me.



Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Tony S on September 19, 2018, 03:45:10 AM
Bruce is very much into himself.  The most useless player in rock n roll, contributes next to NOTHING on stage, and acts like he's a big star. Dude has major issues, and has done virtually nothing on stage for years, other than to collect a big check and kiss Mike Love's butt.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on September 19, 2018, 07:45:23 AM
I truly believe that the personalities of Mike and Bruce was a match made in heaven. Their "togetherness" was and is a no-brainer to me.



Kinda like Scrooge & Marley.  ::)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on September 19, 2018, 07:48:00 AM
Bruce is very much into himself.  The most useless player in rock n roll, contributes next to NOTHING on stage, and acts like he's a big star. Dude has major issues, and has done virtually nothing on stage for years, other than to collect a big check and kiss Mike Love's butt.

Atta boy, Tony. Perfect description to a "T".


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Lee Marshall on September 19, 2018, 11:23:54 AM
It's a different story when you get in behind the scenes...away from the fans...and the bus.  Seems like Bruce has more recently had enough of 'it' because I have to say he was generally very decent to me.  Away and apart from the spotlight I found him to be open and honest...forthcoming.  Mind you that was 36 years ago.  He was pleasant and friendly 3 years ago and we would have spoken longer and more in depth except for the demands of the clock.

Mike was never anything but distant...bordering on cold...whenever I encountered him well after the show.  But when he came to sit in as the Rotary Club's guest speaker at a fund raiser some 9 months before the subsequent concert/show in Chatham, Ontario...he was both 'on' and reasonably friendly.  I was surprised actually.  Well acted.

I only ever had a quickly passing acquaintance with Al.  "Hi, nice to meet you" and later "howzit goin'?"  Denny?  Just a few words.  With Brian [circa 2005] I did the usual post show "Thanks/congrats"...then somebody in the pack of well-wishers stepped forward, spooked him and ...zoom...>> off he went.  Melinda was very, VERY nice and friendly.  And Carl Wilson?  He was beyond terrific.  What a sensationally wonderful guy.  Salt of the earth.  A well-rounded soul.  Down to earth and humble.  [every time...generally]
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That pic of me there ... to the left?  That was me MC'ing that subsequent show I mentioned above back in early August 2015.  The 'Beached Boys' were VERY good that evening.  Scott deserved, and likely still deserves, a ton of credit.  Mike doesn't have the 'chops' to run a stage show.  THAT has always been true.  His 2 distinct notes sax solos from the first half of the 60s do not, him, a musician make.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: guitarfool2002 on September 19, 2018, 01:06:09 PM
Why torture yourself? ;)

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.

But you've had other good interactions with Bruce, yeah? He's probably undiagnosed bipolar, but whatever. He's been more than nice to me several times, and one time he was a bit prickly. He's really the one Beach Boy you can delve into rare album tracks and session work, and he'll talk to you about it! You wanna meet these guys, that's the risk you take. He's in his mid 70s and travels around in a bus 200 days out of the year, and people are always wanting to talk to him. You'd probably be a grump sometimes, too.

Your postings in regard to the BB band on this board were really positive pre-Bruce brushing you off on his way to the tour bus after a show. Ever since that experience, you seem sour on them. I get it, but there's not enough time for that. Pretty soon, you'll be able to see NO original Beach Boys. There will be cover bands touring the country, and that's the only way you'll be able to hear this music live.

Do yourself a favor - go see Brian as many times as is feasible, go see Mike/Bruce as many times as is feasible. Once they're gone, they're gone. You'll be sad and you'll be sorry. Go make a new memory with Bruce if you can.

Why torture yourself? ;)

 :woot :woot :woot

Guitarfool - since you asked elsewhere - postings like these that are allowed is the reason I no longer am a regular contributor to this board.

I am all for meaningful discussion of The Beach Boys - and understand some will not like the Mike/Bruce band no matter how talented they are or how much they've stepped up their game since the 'Duke of Earl' days - but what's the point of allowing them to be bashed them without substance?

If there were posts where one contributor said "BRIAN'S OLD!" and the next contributor said "YEAH! BOO BRIAN!", you'd be pissed and probably least give them a warning.

Saying Mike Love's new album is bad because it's loaded with autotune and full of remakes is one thing (which is something I would agree with completely) but numerous postings by the two above being allowed makes this place seem like a biased community where it's OK to sh*t on Mike and Bruce just because, and I don't think that's right.



I want to address a few points made here, in the sense of both moderation and in general posting as myself.

First, as all current and previous mods and admins have tried to make clear numerous times, every decision and action made by us is first discussed and then approved or denied as a team. Despite attempts by disgruntled members in the past to say otherwise, at least since I've been on board there are no actions taken by moderators acting alone without first getting the agreement from the others. There has been nothing done by one moderator going rogue - and presently that means Billy and I. We discuss *everything* pertinent to complaints or actions on this board, we do not pull the trigger randomly or out of spite. Again, despite what others have said, that is how we handle it.

Here and in another thread this week, I've been singled out with these issues, and I'd just ask that anything moving forward be addressed to both myself and Billy according to the board rules. We will try to look at each issue in a reasonable amount of time and reply accordingly once we've discussed it. But it feels unfair to Billy and would be unfair to me (and the board system) if only one of us were singled out repeatedly when the complaints or concerns should be addressed/reported privately so we can do what we always do and put it on the discussion table as a team.


What stuck out in these replies (and this is speaking as me, Craig, as a poster and not a mod) is how you asked a poster who had negative experiences with a band member to overlook that and consider seeing the bigger picture in terms of going to enjoy the band in concert despite that negative experience. That's a valid point.

However, I'd say nearly the same reasoning could be applied to your own feelings about this forum in general. If a few posters out of several hundred members, or in this case two posts out of dozens each day, are upsetting you, I'd suggest ignoring them. The forum is an open forum, as such not everyone will agree or even like what's going on.

But to paint the entire place as well as all the people posting here with such a broad brush based on what amounts to less than 1% of the total posts and the active membership would seem like the same mindset you responded to from the poster who had a bad experience with Bruce.

If the thinking is that someone should not let a bad experience affect their opinions or decisions about the bigger picture of buying tickets to see the band live and the good that the rest of the band has to offer audiences, I'd say the same thinking shouldn't affect decisions on or opinions of the entire forum and the membership here based on a few posters you might not agree with or like.

Regarding this comment: "If there were posts where one contributor said "BRIAN'S OLD!" and the next contributor said "YEAH! BOO BRIAN!", you'd be pissed and probably least give them a warning." :

Again, it has no basis in fact unless someone can find a case in the archives were either me or Billy warned or banned anyone based on that kind of post. We simply do *not* do that, so it's a little insulting to have a situation posted that has not happened in the past. If board rules are broken, we discuss and act. If we are posting as members we can and do reply and debate as everyone else does. But this notion of moderators here bringing out the ban hammer over that kind of thing is false. When posters have been banned in the past, it is either a case of strongly crossing the line, or a history of repeatedly breaking the published rules of the board. It isn't because someone says Brian is old or anything of the sort.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 19, 2018, 01:24:18 PM
I appreciate your response. You make some valid points in regards to the fact that there ARE many quality posters here, and I shouldn't discount that. I will apologize if the posting made you feel as if it was somehow your fault only. My feelings largely remain the same on the subject, but rather than continue.... love and mercy - I hope we can all be very appreciative that we have two bands to go see with original members and that they are both excellent, and who cares which ones of them wear striped shirts. :)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 19, 2018, 04:20:12 PM
Good point about the 1% GF. It’s comparable to saying ‘I’m not going to a B.B./BW show because I know they will play ‘Barbara Ann’.  :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Juice Brohnston on September 20, 2018, 07:56:36 AM
Why torture yourself? ;)

Like I said, I'll wait and see what the tour actually entails. A big part of me simply doesn't want to put any more money into Bruce Johnston's pocket after the unsolicited verbal abuse I received in Ocean City last year. However, I'd love to finally hear the Christmas tracks live, and Brian's Christmas tour isn't coming close enough.

But you've had other good interactions with Bruce, yeah? He's probably undiagnosed bipolar, but whatever. He's been more than nice to me several times, and one time he was a bit prickly. He's really the one Beach Boy you can delve into rare album tracks and session work, and he'll talk to you about it! You wanna meet these guys, that's the risk you take. He's in his mid 70s and travels around in a bus 200 days out of the year, and people are always wanting to talk to him. You'd probably be a grump sometimes, too.

Your postings in regard to the BB band on this board were really positive pre-Bruce brushing you off on his way to the tour bus after a show. Ever since that experience, you seem sour on them. I get it, but there's not enough time for that. Pretty soon, you'll be able to see NO original Beach Boys. There will be cover bands touring the country, and that's the only way you'll be able to hear this music live.

Do yourself a favor - go see Brian as many times as is feasible, go see Mike/Bruce as many times as is feasible. Once they're gone, they're gone. You'll be sad and you'll be sorry. Go make a new memory with Bruce if you can.

You're not wrong. I also have a lot of respect and admiration for Scott Totten and John Cowsill. It's always a treat to hear them handle the catalog so carefully. As for new memories though, I'll just stay away. I've had lots and lots of interactions with Mike and Bruce. They've been nothing but excellent with Mike. You're right about Bruce. They've gone both ways. What bothered me about Bruce last summer, was that I did not engage or deserve the comment he made. It was a bit more than "slagging off". For those new to the party, I was waiting in a specific location given to me to meet John Cowsill after a concert to have my photo signed, near the tour bus...like 15-20 feet from the bus. As each band member came out to go on the bus (Mike included) I said Goodnight and thanked them for a great show, they all replied accordingly and kept walking. Out comes Bruce...I think I managed to get out "Hi Bruce, Great show..." before I was interrupted with him screaming "NOPE! NOT GONNA DO IT!" (I can only assume that he assumed the photo in my hand was for him to sign) so I replied "I'm sorry, I'm waiting for Mr. Cowsill to sign my photo." as he walked to the bus, stomped up the steps and shouted "Well all RIGHT then Mr. MAAAAAAN" and slammed the door to the bus.

Bruce is a good guy. If you ever get into a dialogue with him again, and he's at all rude, give it right back to him, you'll probably end up having a good laugh.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 20, 2018, 09:41:04 AM
^ that didn’t work with me. Just an FYI.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Jim V. on September 20, 2018, 01:47:14 PM
^ that didn’t work with me. Just an FYI.

Well OKAY, MISTER MAN!

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"Now let me tell you, Brian's genius music and Mike's just super cool lyrics, it's totally rad!"


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 20, 2018, 02:02:47 PM
Yes! :lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 21, 2018, 04:02:08 AM
For those new to the party, I was waiting in a specific location given to me to meet John Cowsill after a concert to have my photo signed, near the tour bus...like 15-20 feet from the bus. As each band member came out to go on the bus (Mike included) I said Goodnight and thanked them for a great show, they all replied accordingly and kept walking. Out comes Bruce...I think I managed to get out "Hi Bruce, Great show..." before I was interrupted with him screaming "NOPE! NOT GONNA DO IT!" (I can only assume that he assumed the photo in my hand was for him to sign) so I replied "I'm sorry, I'm waiting for Mr. Cowsill to sign my photo." as he walked to the bus, stomped up the steps and shouted "Well all RIGHT then Mr. MAAAAAAN" and slammed the door to the bus.
Bruce is Stephen King fan? :brow Evil nurse Annie Wilkes in "Misery" tells the same to the writer she's obsessed with everytime she gets angry. F.ex. when she slapped his numb legs with expensive paper she bought him as he said it didn't suit, buy the other paper.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: southbay on September 21, 2018, 07:54:01 AM
saw the Mike and Bruce show 2 nights ago, the 19th.  I have been fortunate enough to meet the guys several times over the last 20 years, and Bruce truly is a Jekyll and Hyde.  All  of the other guys have always at least been consistent. This was my 17 years old daughter's first time meeting them.  Fortunately, we got the "good" Bruce. He was engaging, talked for several minutes and discussed pieces of the group's catalog with her. I do wish everybody had this same experience with him.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on September 28, 2018, 03:53:33 PM
Got an announcement in my email today

Beach Boys - Now and Then

January 22 - Shreveport LA, Municipal Memorial Auditorium, 7:00

January 23- Lafayette, LA, Heymann Performing Arts Center, 7:30 (This is a show that was originally to be on Oct 3)


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Emdeeh on September 29, 2018, 03:32:42 PM
M&B Atlanta date announced:
Jan. 20 -- Atlanta, GA -- Cobb Energy Performing Arts Centre


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: donald on October 02, 2018, 03:06:40 PM
Saw the Winery show on 9-16.   Christian was back, vocals not as good as when I last  saw them.   They did unleash the love.    The show and music had improved over the years but either this was an off night or they are losing ground vocally.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: HeyJude on October 03, 2018, 07:43:58 AM
Saw the Winery show on 9-16.   Christian was back, vocals not as good as when I last  saw them.   They did unleash the love.    The show and music had improved over the years but either this was an off night or they are losing ground vocally.

They usually jam pack the schedule in the late summer, with few nights off. I've noticed for years now that shows in the middle or near the end of long runs with few if any breaks tend to have the band in lower energy and sounding not quite as sharp. It's the cost of trying to always shoehorn in 150 shows per year and play every theater, amphitheater, winery, casino, fair, and bowling alley they possibly can.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: donald on November 10, 2018, 08:25:33 AM
I have also thought of them as the likes of the Basie band.   It could go on in that fashion.  If they keep a dozen or so of the current members of both bands.  Call it the Pet Sounds Orchestra


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RubberSoul13 on November 10, 2018, 12:17:38 PM
I went ahead and bought tickets for the front row of the balcony at The Lyric for the Baltimore date next month. What the heck. Let's give the Christmas show a shot.


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: Aum Bop Diddit on November 12, 2018, 07:27:58 PM
I have also thought of them as the likes of the Basie band.   It could go on in that fashion.  If they keep a dozen or so of the current members of both bands.  Call it the Pet Sounds Orchestra

The Glen Miller Orchestra has a number of dates left in this year's touring schedule, the next being December 9th in Newton NJ.  How many original members I wonder!

https://www.secureboxoffice.com/P/p-325?gclid=CjwKCAiA5qTfBRAoEiwAwQy-6egdYEpmx8SYU-G1tAkirxC_gWBEJaAEXIUmti-cK9-IH4u3n_COVhoC_lkQAvD_BwE


Title: Re: Beach Boys 2018 Tour Thread
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on November 12, 2018, 07:56:04 PM
I'm Glen Miller Orchestra fan - great music.