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« Reply #775 on: September 18, 2016, 05:40:55 PM »

Wow, I hadn't read those AGD messages until now!  What a nutcase.   

I can't believe he seriously thought Smile Brian was Melinda Wilson.  LOL

A true case of para(agd)noia. He needs a shrink wrap in the worst way. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #776 on: September 18, 2016, 05:45:01 PM »

john, it isn't necessarily the board issues that posters decide to leave it. It's better than being banned, may get back with new account. I just don't like this speculation in case of halblaineisgood that he went due to "drama". It isn't true.
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« Reply #777 on: September 19, 2016, 04:08:09 AM »

  How many long standing members have been banned in the past six months? (I've lost count.) How many of them were perceived as "Love supporters" being insufficiently respectful to Brian and/or Melinda? (I've lost count.)

Why not consider WHY those members were banned, rather than who they support?

I requested many months ago that some of the more prominent bans be detailed and discussed - because now there is a false narrative from people on the BS forum that they got banned because they support Mike Love. It should've been on record and evidence put forth as to why people got banned in the first place. I'm not saying we need a laughable sub-forum section on bans like the BS forum does, but a simple locked thread in the Sandbox for reference would go a long way.

One guy compared Brian fans to suicide bombers, a couple people constantly harassed an enthusiastic member who supports and has a history with Brian, one person insinuated that someone who works with Brian should commit suicide, another launched a childish tirade against a good friend of Brian's, another guy continuously passed on false information about the person Brian Wilson is married to, (noticing a pattern yet?). I'm sure that Billy and Guitarfool have plenty more they could share about the bans here. But this stuff should've been written about and documented by the mod team. To be fair though, it's easier said than done - knowing one of the banned members has a penchant for threatening people and their families and another creepily attempted to collect the address of a fellow poster here. I totally understand wanting to leave it all behind and move forward. But when people are making false claims about why they were banned it becomes necessary to correct the record.
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« Reply #778 on: September 19, 2016, 04:11:49 AM »

Time for "love and smile Brian" Wink
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« Reply #779 on: September 19, 2016, 05:38:17 AM »

There are several annoying "narratives" going on in the wacky world of BB fandom.

1) "Brianistas". That it could ever become a sort of insult is absurd in itself. We all owe to Brian a world of music rating among the best ever, done overcoming problems one would not wish upon their worst enemy. He has delighted legions of people, and consistently been a beneficial infuence on many of our lives. While I am comfortably typing this, he is out in the world working his a** off for us fans, again overcoming stage fright, anxiety, fatigue, and his pains. On top of all, he comes out as humble and unassuming as possible.
Do we "Brianistas" think that Brian can do no wrong? No. That he walks on water? No. That all the other Beach Boys are artistically negligible? No. Brian has been and is discussed in depth, here and elsewhere, and not everything is praise, even by the so-called "Brianistas".
But yes, we love Brian, and with reason. He is not only a musical genius. He is a HERO... our hero.

2) "Mike haters". WE DON'T HATE MIKE LOVE. I don't think anybody in this board hates Mike, not even OSD and Smile Brian: their anti-Mike attitude seems more like a put-on to me, a voluntary exaggeration bordering at times on self-parody. After all, some of the reasons I listed for loving Brian are also valid for Mike, up to a point. And "hate" is a big word, which I reserve for those who effectively damage and ruin other people's lives, like UE bureaucrats for example.
Let's rather say that even many ex-fans of his (like me) can't stand any more his relentless self-serving, his attempts to rewrite history, his always harping on Wilson drug abuse and sundry other things, his going after Melinda.
Said that, there's a current thread here about Mike's best vocal moments, started by Century Deprived, who is surely considered a "Brianista". Most of the "regulars" here have contributed. That's how we hate Mike. 3D

3) The bans. A handful of people have been banned, yes. 3381 members, and growing, haven't. First as a lurker then as a member, I have followed the "history" before those bans, and feel free to say that they had it coming. In some cases they were practically asking for it. Sometimes there were specific, very serious, reasons for the ban. In other cases, there was a history of years of trolling and sistematic board disruption.
Sure, the mods have become harsher lately. Imho, if anything they had been too lenient before. There is a self-defence argument too: namely, this board and its mods have been subjected to rather nauseating campaigns against.
Be as it may, with the "new" policy the board is healthier and friendlier than ever before.
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« Reply #780 on: September 19, 2016, 06:00:17 AM »

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« Reply #781 on: September 20, 2016, 04:36:48 AM »

Thanks Quincy!
I made that long post to try and resume, in just one place, what I think on those matters. Though now I'm sorry I did, as it was totally redundant. Either people alread get those things (like most here), or they are delusional, or they have agendas, or both of the latter.
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« Reply #782 on: September 20, 2016, 07:47:26 AM »

Thorgil, do not be sorry for posting that - it was a perfect summary that some people need to read.
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« Reply #783 on: September 20, 2016, 09:02:27 AM »

Thanks, Rab, but I convinced the already convinced. Smiley
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« Reply #784 on: September 21, 2016, 03:01:17 PM »

Just found this thread today... It's kind of shocking to learn about how much of a scumbag AGD turned out to be. It's kind of pathetic, really, given the glee with which he has crapped all over Beach Boys fans these past few years. AND YET he still has the nerve to play the aggrieved party. He must have no shame whatsoever.

So-- anything that AGD has posted on this board should really be taken with either a grain of salt, or the entire Cargill mine. Sickening 
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« Reply #785 on: September 22, 2016, 04:48:44 AM »

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« Reply #786 on: September 22, 2016, 05:47:57 AM »

There are several annoying "narratives" going on in the wacky world of BB fandom.

1) "Brianistas". That it could ever become a sort of insult is absurd in itself. We all owe to Brian a world of music rating among the best ever, done overcoming problems one would not wish upon their worst enemy. He has delighted legions of people, and consistently been a beneficial infuence on many of our lives. While I am comfortably typing this, he is out in the world working his a** off for us fans, again overcoming stage fright, anxiety, fatigue, and his pains. On top of all, he comes out as humble and unassuming as possible.
Do we "Brianistas" think that Brian can do no wrong? No. That he walks on water? No. That all the other Beach Boys are artistically negligible? No. Brian has been and is discussed in depth, here and elsewhere, and not everything is praise, even by the so-called "Brianistas".
But yes, we love Brian, and with reason. He is not only a musical genius. He is a HERO... our hero.

2) "Mike haters". WE DON'T HATE MIKE LOVE. I don't think anybody in this board hates Mike, not even OSD and Smile Brian: their anti-Mike attitude seems more like a put-on to me, a voluntary exaggeration bordering at times on self-parody. After all, some of the reasons I listed for loving Brian are also valid for Mike, up to a point. And "hate" is a big word, which I reserve for those who effectively damage and ruin other people's lives, like UE bureaucrats for example.
Let's rather say that even many ex-fans of his (like me) can't stand any more his relentless self-serving, his attempts to rewrite history, his always harping on Wilson drug abuse and sundry other things, his going after Melinda.
Said that, there's a current thread here about Mike's best vocal moments, started by Century Deprived, who is surely considered a "Brianista". Most of the "regulars" here have contributed. That's how we hate Mike. 3D

3) The bans. A handful of people have been banned, yes. 3381 members, and growing, haven't. First as a lurker then as a member, I have followed the "history" before those bans, and feel free to say that they had it coming. In some cases they were practically asking for it. Sometimes there were specific, very serious, reasons for the ban. In other cases, there was a history of years of trolling and sistematic board disruption.
Sure, the mods have become harsher lately. Imho, if anything they had been too lenient before. There is a self-defence argument too: namely, this board and its mods have been subjected to rather nauseating campaigns against.
Be as it may, with the "new" policy the board is healthier and friendlier than ever before.

I completely agree about Brianistas. It may have taken on a meaning (for some) of being delusional about Brian and the other Beach Boys. For me, it just means someone who supports Brian. I had a T shirt done with this word in rhinestones. I believe in nailing my colours to the mast on this one. The reasons so many support Brian are IMO self explanatory. It is harder to understand why Mike gets the level of support he does from some of his most loyal fans.
Hating Mike? Occasionally I feel strong dislike. For example when reading the wording of the 2005 lawsuit.

As for the banning, I agree with thorgil. Most of those surely had it coming.
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« Reply #787 on: September 30, 2016, 08:40:39 PM »

I go away for a few months, and then I miss out on all the drama bombshells  Sad  But damn, this is some crazy stuff.
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« Reply #788 on: October 18, 2016, 05:03:47 PM »

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« Reply #789 on: October 18, 2016, 05:56:47 PM »

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« Reply #790 on: October 18, 2016, 05:57:45 PM »

Oh my god! LOL
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« Reply #791 on: October 18, 2016, 06:05:08 PM »

I was amazed at the number of pictures of ADG on his facebook page, I would guess he's a big mirror collector Wink

Bahaha, I'm glad someone else noticed this.  LOL





It's fairly obvious that he and myKe luHv have something so disgustingly in common. They have, for no reason whatsoever, gigantic, overblown egos.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #792 on: October 18, 2016, 07:11:33 PM »

I was amazed at the number of pictures of ADG on his facebook page, I would guess he's a big mirror collector Wink

Bahaha, I'm glad someone else noticed this.  LOL





It's fairly obvious that he and myKe luHv have something so disgustingly in common. They have, for no reason whatsoever, gigantic, overblown egos.  Roll Eyes

His hair is pretty majestic though.
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« Reply #793 on: October 18, 2016, 07:20:13 PM »

So was mine, once upon a time...
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« Reply #794 on: October 18, 2016, 07:38:40 PM »

Somebody photoshop AGD's hair onto a picture of Billy ASAP! Cool Guy
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« Reply #795 on: October 18, 2016, 07:39:49 PM »

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« Reply #796 on: October 18, 2016, 07:51:30 PM »

Somebody photoshop AGD's hair onto a picture of Billy ASAP! Cool Guy

And make kokodoe bald!!  Evil
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« Reply #799 on: October 22, 2016, 10:16:42 AM »

I was amazed at the number of pictures of ADG on his facebook page, I would guess he's a big mirror collector Wink

Bahaha, I'm glad someone else noticed this.  LOL





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