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[rab2591]

Whoever did it, totally wrong that it includes a quote from Sir George Martin that was made about another band - Brian's band, as Debbie pointed out.

Maybe I am confused, but The Beach Boys played GV live post-release.  Could they do it? I have an old 1967 show streaming right now.  

Was that the Sir George Martin query?  Of course other bands could do it decades post.  The Beach Boys are Brian's band; but a cooperative venture, not the solo Brian band.  

That video, appears to be a cobbled-assemblage of various videos over time.  Could just have easily been a school project.  It is just a mini-snapshot.  A documentary, it ain't.    

The Sir George Martin quote in the video related not to The Beach Boys, either then or now but to the Brian Wilson band. It was quoted out of context.

Then it is out of context 40 years post, I think.  The Beach Boys did the live version post-release.  They were capable of performing it live.  This person may have the time-context off.  I don't think is a big deal.  It is difficult to put 55+ years in exactly the correct chronological order. 

George Martin would have known full-well that The Beach Boys had performed it post-release. And, very well with Carl Wilson on lead.      

best argument yet. So George Martin can't say that Brian's band can perform Good Vibrations well because that accomplishment was done 40 years prior and onward by another band. We really can't admit that a quote attributed to Brian's band and their hard work was misrepresented in this video? No, it's George martin's fault! Of course!

[Niko]

Whoever did it, totally wrong that it includes a quote from Sir George Martin that was made about another band - Brian's band, as Debbie pointed out.

Maybe I am confused, but The Beach Boys played GV live post-release.  Could they do it? I have an old 1967 show streaming right now.  

Was that the Sir George Martin query?  Of course other bands could do it decades post.  The Beach Boys are Brian's band; but a cooperative venture, not the solo Brian band.  

That video, appears to be a cobbled-assemblage of various videos over time.  Could just have easily been a school project.  It is just a mini-snapshot.  A documentary, it ain't.    

The Sir George Martin quote in the video related not to The Beach Boys, either then or now but to the Brian Wilson band. It was quoted out of context.

Then it is out of context 40 years post, I think.  The Beach Boys did the live version post-release.  They were capable of performing it live.  This person may have the time-context off.  I don't think is a big deal.  It is difficult to put 55+ years in exactly the correct chronological order. 

George Martin would have known full-well that The Beach Boys had performed it post-release. And, very well with Carl Wilson on lead.      

You've missed the point entirely.

George Martin said that about the brian Wilson band NOT the beach boys. And at the time of him saying that, brian was the only beach boy in the brian Wilson band.

[filledeplage]

Whoever did it, totally wrong that it includes a quote from Sir George Martin that was made about another band - Brian's band, as Debbie pointed out.

Maybe I am confused, but The Beach Boys played GV live post-release.  Could they do it? I have an old 1967 show streaming right now.  

Was that the Sir George Martin query?  Of course other bands could do it decades post.  The Beach Boys are Brian's band; but a cooperative venture, not the solo Brian band.  

That video, appears to be a cobbled-assemblage of various videos over time.  Could just have easily been a school project.  It is just a mini-snapshot.  A documentary, it ain't.    

The Sir George Martin quote in the video related not to The Beach Boys, either then or now but to the Brian Wilson band. It was quoted out of context.

Then it is out of context 40 years post, I think.  The Beach Boys did the live version post-release.  They were capable of performing it live.  This person may have the time-context off.  I don't think is a big deal.  It is difficult to put 55+ years in exactly the correct chronological order. 

George Martin would have known full-well that The Beach Boys had performed it post-release. And, very well with Carl Wilson on lead.      

best argument yet. So George Martin can't say that Brian's band can perform Good Vibrations well because that accomplishment was done 40 years prior and onward by another band. We really can't admit that a quote attributed to Brian's band and their hard work was misrepresented in this video? No, it's George martin's fault! Of course!

rab - Was Martin "in the company of" Brian's band? Would he say nice things about them?  Of course he would.  They are great.  It does not detract from their greatness, which is not in question as far as I am concerned.  Sir George could speak as he pleased.

But, let's not forget that when GV was put together, Carl was barely out of his teens, and Dennis who was on drums/percussion was in his early 20's and they tackled it, performing night after night.  A listen to the Youtubes from 1967 will bear that out.  

[filledeplage]

Whoever did it, totally wrong that it includes a quote from Sir George Martin that was made about another band - Brian's band, as Debbie pointed out.

Maybe I am confused, but The Beach Boys played GV live post-release.  Could they do it? I have an old 1967 show streaming right now.  

Was that the Sir George Martin query?  Of course other bands could do it decades post.  The Beach Boys are Brian's band; but a cooperative venture, not the solo Brian band.  

That video, appears to be a cobbled-assemblage of various videos over time.  Could just have easily been a school project.  It is just a mini-snapshot.  A documentary, it ain't.    

The Sir George Martin quote in the video related not to The Beach Boys, either then or now but to the Brian Wilson band. It was quoted out of context.

Then it is out of context 40 years post, I think.  The Beach Boys did the live version post-release.  They were capable of performing it live.  This person may have the time-context off.  I don't think is a big deal.  It is difficult to put 55+ years in exactly the correct chronological order. 

George Martin would have known full-well that The Beach Boys had performed it post-release. And, very well with Carl Wilson on lead.      

You've missed the point entirely.

George Martin said that about the brian Wilson band NOT the beach boys. And at the time of him saying that, brian was the only beach boy in the brian Wilson band.

Woodstock - in a video lasting about a minute and a half, there were the Brother logos, a clip from Mike Douglas circa 1968-9, and some banter.  If he got 95% correct, that is not too bad, and there are links to various BRI-connected websites so it must be pretty much on target. 

If Martin says something nice about Brian's band does it mean that he thinks no one else is capable or has been capable of doing GV, live?  I don't think so.  I think the original BB's are certainly incorporated by reference contained in the video clips.    The different configurations remind me of a Venn Diagram with the BB's in the center.  It is how I think of them and how I can appreciate all versions playing this music.  It makes it easy. 

[rab2591]

Whoever did it, totally wrong that it includes a quote from Sir George Martin that was made about another band - Brian's band, as Debbie pointed out.

Maybe I am confused, but The Beach Boys played GV live post-release.  Could they do it? I have an old 1967 show streaming right now.  

Was that the Sir George Martin query?  Of course other bands could do it decades post.  The Beach Boys are Brian's band; but a cooperative venture, not the solo Brian band.  

That video, appears to be a cobbled-assemblage of various videos over time.  Could just have easily been a school project.  It is just a mini-snapshot.  A documentary, it ain't.    

The Sir George Martin quote in the video related not to The Beach Boys, either then or now but to the Brian Wilson band. It was quoted out of context.

Then it is out of context 40 years post, I think.  The Beach Boys did the live version post-release.  They were capable of performing it live.  This person may have the time-context off.  I don't think is a big deal.  It is difficult to put 55+ years in exactly the correct chronological order. 

George Martin would have known full-well that The Beach Boys had performed it post-release. And, very well with Carl Wilson on lead.      

best argument yet. So George Martin can't say that Brian's band can perform Good Vibrations well because that accomplishment was done 40 years prior and onward by another band. We really can't admit that a quote attributed to Brian's band and their hard work was misrepresented in this video? No, it's George martin's fault! Of course!

rab - Was Martin "in the company of" Brian's band? Would he say nice things about them?  Of course he would.  They are great.  It does not detract from their greatness, which is not in question as far as I am concerned.  Sir George could speak as he pleased.

But, let's not forget that when GV was put together, Carl was barely out of his teens, and Dennis who was on drums/percussion was in his early 20's and they tackled it, performing night after night.  A listen to the Youtubes from 1967 will bear that out.  

No one is saying any differently. It is still a fact that George Martin's quote was misrepresented in this case...No matter what his opinion is of other bands performing the song well.

[filledeplage]

Whoever did it, totally wrong that it includes a quote from Sir George Martin that was made about another band - Brian's band, as Debbie pointed out.

Maybe I am confused, but The Beach Boys played GV live post-release.  Could they do it? I have an old 1967 show streaming right now.  

Was that the Sir George Martin query?  Of course other bands could do it decades post.  The Beach Boys are Brian's band; but a cooperative venture, not the solo Brian band.  

That video, appears to be a cobbled-assemblage of various videos over time.  Could just have easily been a school project.  It is just a mini-snapshot.  A documentary, it ain't.    

The Sir George Martin quote in the video related not to The Beach Boys, either then or now but to the Brian Wilson band. It was quoted out of context.

Then it is out of context 40 years post, I think.  The Beach Boys did the live version post-release.  They were capable of performing it live.  This person may have the time-context off.  I don't think is a big deal.  It is difficult to put 55+ years in exactly the correct chronological order.  

George Martin would have known full-well that The Beach Boys had performed it post-release. And, very well with Carl Wilson on lead.    

best argument yet. So George Martin can't say that Brian's band can perform Good Vibrations well because that accomplishment was done 40 years prior and onward by another band. We really can't admit that a quote attributed to Brian's band and their hard work was misrepresented in this video? No, it's George martin's fault! Of course!

rab - Was Martin "in the company of" Brian's band? Would he say nice things about them?  Of course he would.  They are great.  It does not detract from their greatness, which is not in question as far as I am concerned.  Sir George could speak as he pleased.

But, let's not forget that when GV was put together, Carl was barely out of his teens, and Dennis who was on drums/percussion was in his early 20's and they tackled it, performing night after night.  A listen to the Youtubes from 1967 will bear that out.  

No one is saying any differently. It is still a fact that George Martin's quote was misrepresented in this case...No matter what his opinion is of other bands performing the song well.

Found this with the original BB's singing.  Martin references The Beach Boys at the beginning of this video which is marked "for Education." Hope it copies.  I can't tell if Martin was wearing a seat belt or if those cars even had them.  

http://youtu.be/CnVyCuc9_P8

[SMiLE Brian]

Martin's quote is about the BW band.

[Cam Mott]

Martin's quote is about the BW band.

Someone could ask Noven to correct it, or you could comment on the video in his Youtube fan page and explain that the remark doesn't reflect that Martin thinks the Beach Boys could/did perform GV in concert but is just in reference to a performance by Brian and his band.

[SMiLE Brian]

Yeah but filleplage seems to think differently on the quote context. There is a difference between the BBs and the BW band/ M&B even without this willful abuse of this quote.

[Mendota Heights]

#makethetouringbandgreatagain

[Ang Jones]

Whoever did it, totally wrong that it includes a quote from Sir George Martin that was made about another band - Brian's band, as Debbie pointed out.

Maybe I am confused, but The Beach Boys played GV live post-release.  Could they do it? I have an old 1967 show streaming right now.  

Was that the Sir George Martin query?  Of course other bands could do it decades post.  The Beach Boys are Brian's band; but a cooperative venture, not the solo Brian band.  

That video, appears to be a cobbled-assemblage of various videos over time.  Could just have easily been a school project.  It is just a mini-snapshot.  A documentary, it ain't.    

The Sir George Martin quote in the video related not to The Beach Boys, either then or now but to the Brian Wilson band. It was quoted out of context.

Then it is out of context 40 years post, I think.  The Beach Boys did the live version post-release.  They were capable of performing it live.  This person may have the time-context off.  I don't think is a big deal.  It is difficult to put 55+ years in exactly the correct chronological order.  

George Martin would have known full-well that The Beach Boys had performed it post-release. And, very well with Carl Wilson on lead.    

best argument yet. So George Martin can't say that Brian's band can perform Good Vibrations well because that accomplishment was done 40 years prior and onward by another band. We really can't admit that a quote attributed to Brian's band and their hard work was misrepresented in this video? No, it's George martin's fault! Of course!

rab - Was Martin "in the company of" Brian's band? Would he say nice things about them?  Of course he would.  They are great.  It does not detract from their greatness, which is not in question as far as I am concerned.  Sir George could speak as he pleased.

But, let's not forget that when GV was put together, Carl was barely out of his teens, and Dennis who was on drums/percussion was in his early 20's and they tackled it, performing night after night.  A listen to the Youtubes from 1967 will bear that out.  

No one is saying any differently. It is still a fact that George Martin's quote was misrepresented in this case...No matter what his opinion is of other bands performing the song well.

Found this with the original BB's singing.  Martin references The Beach Boys at the beginning of this video which is marked "for Education." Hope it copies.  I can't tell if Martin was wearing a seat belt or if those cars even had them.  

http://youtu.be/CnVyCuc9_P8

I can't remember exactly which programme the Sir George Martin quote came from but I'm guessing either Art That Shook the world or else the three parter on Melody, Harmony and Rhythm, both of which were done for UK TV and at a time when the original Beach Boys were NOT together - not even during the C50. The quote was about Brian's band, not the Beach Boys, however good Sir George's opinion of The Beach Boys may have been. It's like using a Pepsi Cola advert to advertise Coke, even if the person drinking it liked both.

[filledeplage]

Yeah but filleplage seems to think differently on the quote context. There is a difference between the BBs and the BW band/ M&B even without this willful abuse of this quote.

Smile Brian - I took the time to do a search on Martin. Willful abuse?  I think not, and if you can find the relevant video of Martin referring to Brian's band, it would be much appreciated.  

Martin is in the studio with Brian and working on a little remix of GOK with Carl on lead.  

[filledeplage]

#makethetouringbandgreatagain

#stillwaitingforthecheck

 

[SMiLE Brian]

No Wilsons were ever in the M&B rented BBs band. George Martin meant the BW band in his quote.

[Debbie KL]

Yeah but filleplage seems to think differently on the quote context. There is a difference between the BBs and the BW band/ M&B even without this willful abuse of this quote.

Smile Brian - I took the time to do a search on Martin. Willful abuse?  I think not, and if you can find the relevant video of Martin referring to Brian's band, it would be much appreciated.  

Martin is in the studio with Brian and working on a little remix of GOK with Carl on lead.  

It's very, very easy to find the full quote, as I offered the reference pages back.  It is directly from the video made in March 2001 - "A Tribute to Brian Wilson."  I was at the event at Radio City Music Hall, as were many others.  Sir George Martin was on the stage describing the brilliance of Brian Wilson's studio abilities and how he was essentially doing what Sir George and all of the Beatles were doing together at that time.  He was introducing the Brian Wilson's band's performance and how it was difficult to imagine anyone genuinely recreating that music, but "this band can do it."  Go look at the video - very well-known - from this event.  That is where it came from.  Any more questions?  

Never mind, I'm sure you'll have some convoluted reference to how he was "really" referring to the late 60's BBs.  It was not.

[Rocker]

Yeah but filleplage seems to think differently on the quote context. There is a difference between the BBs and the BW band/ M&B even without this willful abuse of this quote.

Smile Brian - I took the time to do a search on Martin. Willful abuse?  I think not, and if you can find the relevant video of Martin referring to Brian's band, it would be much appreciated.  

Martin is in the studio with Brian and working on a little remix of GOK with Carl on lead.  

It's very, very easy to find the full quote, as I offered the reference pages back.  It is directly from the video made in March 2001 - "A Tribute to Brian Wilson."  I was at the event at Radio City Music Hall, as were many others.  Sir George Martin was on the stage describing the brilliance of Brian Wilson's studio abilities and how he was essentially doing what Sir George and all of the Beatles were doing together at that time.  He was introducing the Brian Wilson's band's performance and how it was difficult to imagine anyone genuinely recreating that music, but "this band can do it."  Go look at the video - very well-known - from this event.  That is where it came from.  Any more questions?  

Never mind, I'm sure you'll have some convoluted reference to how he was "really" referring to the late 60's BBs.  It was not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suvmqWnPxxE

[filledeplage]

Yeah but filleplage seems to think differently on the quote context. There is a difference between the BBs and the BW band/ M&B even without this willful abuse of this quote.

Smile Brian - I took the time to do a search on Martin. Willful abuse?  I think not, and if you can find the relevant video of Martin referring to Brian's band, it would be much appreciated.  

Martin is in the studio with Brian and working on a little remix of GOK with Carl on lead.  

It's very, very easy to find the full quote, as I offered the reference pages back.  It is directly from the video made in March 2001 - "A Tribute to Brian Wilson."  I was at the event at Radio City Music Hall, as were many others.  Sir George Martin was on the stage describing the brilliance of Brian Wilson's studio abilities and how he was essentially doing what Sir George and all of the Beatles were doing together at that time.  He was introducing the Brian Wilson's band's performance and how it was difficult to imagine anyone genuinely recreating that music, but "this band can do it."  Go look at the video - very well-known - from this event.  That is where it came from.  Any more questions?  

Never mind, I'm sure you'll have some convoluted reference to how he was "really" referring to the late 60's BBs.  It was not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suvmqWnPxxE

Thanks Rocker - that was what I was exactly looking to see. 

The Martin interview both with Brian at his home at the piano and in the studio re-working GOK was what I found first.  Thank you.    

[Ang Jones]

Yeah but filleplage seems to think differently on the quote context. There is a difference between the BBs and the BW band/ M&B even without this willful abuse of this quote.

Smile Brian - I took the time to do a search on Martin. Willful abuse?  I think not, and if you can find the relevant video of Martin referring to Brian's band, it would be much appreciated.  

Martin is in the studio with Brian and working on a little remix of GOK with Carl on lead.  

It's very, very easy to find the full quote, as I offered the reference pages back.  It is directly from the video made in March 2001 - "A Tribute to Brian Wilson."  I was at the event at Radio City Music Hall, as were many others.  Sir George Martin was on the stage describing the brilliance of Brian Wilson's studio abilities and how he was essentially doing what Sir George and all of the Beatles were doing together at that time.  He was introducing the Brian Wilson's band's performance and how it was difficult to imagine anyone genuinely recreating that music, but "this band can do it."  Go look at the video - very well-known - from this event.  That is where it came from.  Any more questions?  

Never mind, I'm sure you'll have some convoluted reference to how he was "really" referring to the late 60's BBs.  It was not.

Thanks Debbie for making this clear. A pity that the video didn't.

[Emily]

   One of these days this sort of conversation is going to end up with my eyes stuck looking upward.
The point of Martin's quote was that the band Brian Wilson put together can perform GV in a way that actually sounds like the recording as no other band ever has. And they do. And it's amazing.
If the video is just a fan video, it's maybe a perfectly reasonable mistake that someone got it out of context, but in that case he/she should correct it and remove the logo. If it's an official video, it's pretty wrong to use the quote. Why is this even debatable? Ugh.

[GoodVibrations33]

Here's the full clip of George Martin from the All-Star Tribute:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJTLu4UiJ7o

[filledeplage]

Here's the full clip of George Martin from the All-Star Tribute:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJTLu4UiJ7o

Thanks for that.  Paul McCartney with that haircut! OMG!

The other video above that I linked above, was from a 1997 in the UK program called "The Rhythm of Life," and was listed as run on US TV in 1999. It is on imdb and the list of those who were featured are there.   

If filmed in 1997, it was prior to Carl's passing in early 1998.  I wonder if GOK was worked on in the studio by Brian and Sir George with Carl in mind, as he was on everyone's mind, late in 1997.

At any rate, thank you for finding that more comprehensive clip.   

[Eric Aniversario]

Mike posted on Facebook that they are now doing six songs from Pet Sounds, with more to be added later in the tour!

Caroline No (Jeff)
You still believe in me (Brian E)
Here Today (Mike/Bruce)

And of course the staples WIBN, GOJ, SJB

Any bets on what will be added next?

[bringahorseinhere?]

they may as well go all the way and be "Mike & Bruce's Beach Boys Presents Brian Wilson' Presents Pet Sounds Tour 2016'.
These camps are pathetic.  Both now with near matching setlists. 

[You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered]

Mike posted on Facebook that they are now doing six songs from Pet Sounds, with more to be added later in the tour!

Caroline No (Jeff)
You still believe in me (Brian E)
Here Today (Mike/Bruce)

And of course the staples WIBN, GOJ, SJB

Any bets on what will be added next?

Trombone Dixie

[Eric Aniversario]

they may as well go all the way and be "Mike & Bruce's Beach Boys Presents Brian Wilson' Presents Pet Sounds Tour 2016'.
These camps are pathetic.  Both now with near matching setlists. 

Pathetic? Far from it! I think all the touring bands including Al's and Dave's when they get gigs, are great!