Mike Love Appreciation thread

[AndrewHickey]

      I'm usually as unappreciative as anyone for OSD, but the outfit  in question is religuious garb?  Really?  Have to go on record as being on the side of Clown suit. If someone takes offense at that( opinion) they can always not wear it when I'm around...  See, I suppose I just don't see TM as a religion as much as  a way of life practice,  so for me, at least from the way I view ML/TM he's not wearing religious Garb, only some flashy gold threads in another lame attempt to become JJF.   

Yes, it is traditional Hindu religious dress. And whatever your opinion of TM (and I am no fan of the Maharishi at all) Mike is a devout, very religious Hindu. And mocking him for that -- and for sharing fairly intimate photos of himself and his family on Facebook, rather than just sticking to the normal pictures of him in a baseball cap with an American flag in the background or whatever -- is *at best* incredibly ignorant and, frankly, nasty. At worst it is, as Quzi says, racist, because after all it's perfectly OK to make fun of a religion with a billion adherents so long as those people are mostly brown.

This kind of thing is absolutely sickening,

[Iron Horse-Apples]

I'm sure OSD won't mind me saying, but he is a one trick pony, albeit a very funny one. Mocking Mike is his thing, and to start a thread the way this one was started was a red rag to a bull. I find it hilarious people actually get wound up over what is obviously a joke

If I started a thread about Brian appreciation in such a fashion, I would expect to be greeted with cries and heckles of "Brianista!" (Which I am and proud of) Sorry Quzi but you were asking for trouble

And I don't think anyone is mocking Hindu culture, they're mocking Mike who does look a bit silly in that picture. (Much as he did in his 70's robes) Childish maybe, but guess what. Do you think Mike gives a toss what OSD or anyone thinks? He's always loved getting a reaction. Conversely Quzi, I equally don't think he'd care much about you wanting to  protect his good name.

Mike is a complex character, and also a highly controversial one. No one can doubt he's a very intelligent man, but equally, you'd be hard pressed to say he hasn't done some pretty indefensible things. Yes, I know Dennis and Brian weren't saints, but there is something cold and calculating about Mike. Simply put, I don't think he's a particularly pleasant individual.

Saying that though, how glad I am that my private family politics and rows haven't been played out in public for 50 years. There are many times I don't think I'd have come across as all that nice.

[hypehat]

I am not going to lie, it really speaks to the odd character of the 1960s that a white working class guy from California is heavy into Indian religions.

Certainly, although it doesn't speak badly of his character at all. Even Mike Love couldn't escape the 60's!

[SurfRiderHawaii]

I'm sure OSD won't mind me saying, but he is a one trick pony, albeit a very funny one. Mocking Mike is his thing, and to start a thread the way this one was started was a red rag to a bull. I find it hilarious people actually get wound up over what is obviously a joke

If I started a thread about Brian appreciation in such a fashion, I would expect to be greeted with cries and heckles of "Brianista!" (Which I am and proud of) Sorry Quzi but you were asking for trouble

And I don't think anyone is mocking Hindu culture, they're mocking Mike who does look a bit silly in that picture. (Much as he did in his 70's robes) Childish maybe, but guess what. Do you think Mike gives a toss what OSD or anyone thinks? He's always loved getting a reaction. Conversely Quzi, I equally don't think he'd care much about you wanting to  protect his good name.

Mike is a complex character, and also a highly controversial one. No one can doubt he's a very intelligent man, but equally, you'd be hard pressed to say he hasn't done some pretty indefensible things. Yes, I know Dennis and Brian weren't saints, but there is something cold and calculating about Mike. Simply put, I don't think he's a particularly pleasant individual.

Saying that though, how glad I am that my private family politics and rows haven't been played out in public for 50 years. There are many times I don't think I'd have come across as all that nice.

Very well put Stephen!

[Myk Luhv]

I think we can all at least agree that Mike rocked one of the best beards in the group.

[Iron Horse-Apples]

He did indeed, and I think his early 70's look was so ridiculous it was cool, as were his gold suits later in the decade.

Regarding the latest pictures though, unfortunately if a celebrity posts private pics of themselves, laying themselves open so to speak, then they're going to be ridiculed. Law of the playground I afraid. Most wouldn't do it, but again, let me reiterate, Mike doesn't give a sh*t what anyone thinks of him. That is one thing I do admire him for

[Micha]

Hell it barely applies in the US these days.

In any case I'm with Quzi on this.

I'm with Quzi too and I think it is totally disrespectful towards her by the Mikehaters to ruin her thread which was meant to get some positivity and less hatred here. Why don't all the Mikehaters get their own board where they can tap on each other's shoulder until they have an orgasm?

I would prefer a rational and balanced point of view on the band members here and a grown up way to treat each other. True, Mike Love is not an angel and has his egotistical side, but so has Brian.

And does Mikehating go with dyslexia? I mean I'm not English and even I know how to spell "amendment".

[Iron Horse-Apples]

OSD made one post. Where are all these "Mikehaters"?. I made a few balanced posts. You're paranoid my friend.

As far as I'm concerned, it's chucking the word "hater" around every time you encounter an opinion you don't like that really brings this board down.

Why don't all the Mikehaters get their own board where they can tap on each other's shoulder until they have an orgasm?

They have, it's called "The rest of the Internet"

[Nicko1234]

OSD made one post. Where are all these "Mikehaters"?. I made a few balanced posts. You're paranoid my friend.

As far as I'm concerned, it's chucking the word "hater" around every time you encounter an opinion you don't like that really brings this board down.

I think you missed the poster who described what Mike was wearing as, 'a clown suit'. If they'd said they thought he looked like a clown then fair enough but it is pretty ignorant to just dismiss the clothing itself simply because it is from another country and culture.

[Chocolate Shake Man]

As far as I'm concerned, it's chucking the word "hater" around every time you encounter an opinion you don't like that really brings this board down.

 

[Iron Horse-Apples]

I think you missed the poster who described what Mike was wearing as, 'a clown suit'. If they'd said they thought he looked like a clown then fair enough but it is pretty ignorant to just dismiss the clothing itself simply because it is from another country and culture.

I agree, but I think the dig was towards Mike, not Hindu religious garb.

And you're right, it was more than one post, I just have a knee-jerk reaction when I see the word "hater". Like accusing someone of racism or sexism, it's a quick and dirty way to win an argument.

Anyway, before this erupts, I fully respect that people like Mike and value his contribution to the band, but trying to ban negative views from a thread is just ridiculous. I'm going to jump on OSD's side on principle!

[Jason]

The best way to deal with oldsurferdude's tired and immature banter is to ignore him. As Abraham Lincoln once said, "don't feed the troll."

[Iron Horse-Apples]

The best way to deal with oldsurferdude's tired and immature banter is to ignore him. As Abraham Lincoln once said, "don't feed the troll."

Thanks for wasting five minutes of my life looking up to see if Abe Lincoln actually said that.

[Micha]

As far as I'm concerned, it's chucking the word "hater" around every time you encounter an opinion that really brings this board down.

I think this was the first time ever I used the word "hater", and I don't think you're right by claiming it came up "every time you encounter an opinion you don't like". That's just an easy excuse from your side. There's lots of opinions here that aren't mine and I'm fine with that. But this childish way of putting down anybody who dares to see something good in Mike Love has reached an annoying amount of overabundance. Once in a while, ok, it can even be funny then. And I still think it is disrespectful towards Quzi to ruin his thread. If there was a "The Private Life of Bill And Sue appreciation thread", I would leave it alone and not go in there and post how much I hate it.

Yeah, don't feed the troll.

[Jason]

It wasn't right next to this one?

"The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot confirm their validity."

[Jason]

As far as I'm concerned, it's chucking the word "hater" around every time you encounter an opinion that really brings this board down.

I think this was the first time ever I used the word "hater", and I don't think you're right by claiming it came up "every time you encounter an opinion you don't like". That's just an easy excuse from your side. There's lots of opinions here that aren't mine and I'm fine with that. But this childish way of putting down anybody who dares to see something good in Mike Love has reached an annoying amount of overabundance. Once in a while, ok, it can even be funny then. And I still think it is disrespectful towards Quzi to ruin his thread. If there was a "The Private Life of Bill And Sue appreciation thread", I would leave it alone and not go in there and post how much I hate it.

Yeah, don't feed the troll.

A former member of this board (one I took great pleasure in banning) would consider folks like us to be "Kokomaoists".

[Iron Horse-Apples]

As far as I'm concerned, it's chucking the word "hater" around every time you encounter an opinion that really brings this board down.

I think this was the first time ever I used the word "hater", and I don't think you're right by claiming it came up "every time you encounter an opinion you don't like". That's just an easy excuse from your side. There's lots of opinions here that aren't mine and I'm fine with that. But this childish way of putting down anybody who dares to see something good in Mike Love has reached an annoying amount of overabundance. Once in a while, ok, it can even be funny then. And I still think it is disrespectful towards Quzi to ruin his thread. If there was a "The Private Life of Bill And Sue appreciation thread", I would leave it alone and not go in there and post how much I hate it.

Yeah, don't feed the troll.

That's cool, I didn't mean you personally. like I said, I just have a knee-jerk reaction to the word. Personally I agree it was distasteful, sorry OSD, but I find this notion of trying to ban people from posting negative opinions on a thread you  started, to be more distasteful. (Again, I don't mean you Micha, I mean "You" in the universal sense)

And I also  agree with you (now I mean you Micha) it's best to ignore threads you have no interest in, but that can't really be made a rule can it?

[Iron Horse-Apples]

It wasn't right next to this one?

"The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot confirm their validity."

I may be a dumb Limey, but even I know that's in the Gettysburg adress

[Jason]

Personally I agree it was distasteful, sorry OSD, but I find this notion of trying to ban people from posting negative opinions on a thread you  started, to be more distasteful.

And how...yet many of the butthurt folks on here cry for bans when someone hurts their feewings with a differing opinion. Not you personally, but it's been a trend on this board as of late.

[Iron Horse-Apples]

Personally I agree it was distasteful, sorry OSD, but I find this notion of trying to ban people from posting negative opinions on a thread you  started, to be more distasteful.

And how...yet many of the butthurt folks on here cry for bans when someone hurts their feewings with a differing opinion. Not you personally, but it's been a trend on this board as of late.

I completely agree. I've had to go through a sharp learning curve when it comes to "My Feelings" / The Internet. I feel I'm at the point now where I can let most things go over my head. Its pointless taking stuff too personally on here. You're going to encounter all sorts.

I think your Noam Chomsky signature sums it up perfectly.

[Paul J B]

Mike Love LOVES what he does, and he's good at it. Most people can't say that. He has also performed live more than just about anyone else, an amazing feat. Even though he has had his share of missteps, and done some stupid things, (doesn't everyone) his contribution to the Beach Boys and the genius of Brian Wilson, will always keep him in an OK place with me.

[Micha]

As far as I'm concerned, it's chucking the word "hater" around every time you encounter an opinion that really brings this board down.

I think this was the first time ever I used the word "hater", and I don't think you're right by claiming it came up "every time you encounter an opinion you don't like". That's just an easy excuse from your side. There's lots of opinions here that aren't mine and I'm fine with that. But this childish way of putting down anybody who dares to see something good in Mike Love has reached an annoying amount of overabundance. Once in a while, ok, it can even be funny then. And I still think it is disrespectful towards Quzi to ruin his thread. If there was a "The Private Life of Bill And Sue appreciation thread", I would leave it alone and not go in there and post how much I hate it.

Yeah, don't feed the troll.

That's cool, I didn't mean you personally. like I said, I just have a knee-jerk reaction to the word. Personally I agree it was distasteful, sorry OSD, but I find this notion of trying to ban people from posting negative opinions on a thread you  started, to be more distasteful. (Again, I don't mean you Micha, I mean "You" in the universal sense)

And I also  agree with you (now I mean you Micha) it's best to ignore threads you have no interest in, but that can't really be made a rule can it?

Well, I'm sorry, I had taken it personally first. Maybe it was in part a language thing, in my native language there is another word for "You in the universal sense", so I was inclined to take it personally. Thank you for clarifying in your post.

What put me so off was mainly OSD's disrespectfulness, not his sheer opinion. Maybe I went over the top with writing "all those Mikehaters", but lately more than just one thread turned into Mikebashing. I'm not paranoid though, thank you. And what also bugs me about OSD is that he doesn't accept differing opinions to an extend that for instance he reproached Cam that he constantly kisses Mike's ass. That's childish and rude.

I like the word "Kokomaoists", even if I don't like the song.

[Iron Horse-Apples]

No apology necessary Micha.

[Cam Mott]

I'm beginning to hate all you alls. Just kidding.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Personally I agree it was distasteful, sorry OSD, but I find this notion of trying to ban people from posting negative opinions on a thread you  started, to be more distasteful.

And how...yet many of the butthurt folks on here cry for bans when someone hurts their feewings with a differing opinion. Not you personally, but it's been a trend on this board as of late.

The differing opinions is what makes the board fun. But the personal attacks are simply childish and don't belong on the board. When words such as idiot, dweeb, pig, dick, etc start to be hurled in attack mode by someone who doesn't like how the debate is going, they have entered the realm of the juvenile mindset. No big deal if it happens once in a while. But certain people make it a regular habit and those we would be better off without.