M & B Tour 2013

[JohnMill]

Bruce was prancing around so much that at one point my wife asked me if he was gay. I said, no, he's Republican.

Ah another post of the year candidate here my friend.

Never miss an opportunity to ridicule your opposition, its the Alinsky way eh?

It wasn't a post of the year candidate because it ridiculed Republicans.  It was a post of the year candidate because it was damn funny and made even funnier because it was slipped into the middle of an otherwise straightforward concert review. 

[JohnMill]

*sigh* M&B are going to be near my area in couple weeks.

I take it you don't work in the public relations office of their operation? 

[SMiLE Brian]

*sigh* M&B are going to be near my area in couple weeks.

I take it you don't work in the public relations office of their operation? 

Seems like half the board does M&B's PR.

[Nicko1234]

Yeah but here's the thing....Paul McCartney doesn't go onstage and say, "hey did you know I knew Michael Jackson?!" or "you guys are aware that I had Natalie Portman in one of my music videos, right?", while Pete Townshend doesn't announce at Who gigs, "you guys know Eddie Vedder? Well I'm friends with him!"

It just makes Mike (and The Beach Boys) look pathetic. He had to introduce "Forever" at the C50 show I saw by mentioning something about how "Uncle Jessie sang this one on Full House." Be proud of your own accomplishments Mike.

Which isn't relevant to what I said at all.

[drbeachboy]

*sigh* M&B are going to be near my area in couple weeks.

I take it you don't work in the public relations office of their operation?  

Seems like half the board does M&B's PR.

Well, you as part of the other half, does not. 50/50, baby! What's funny is, I bet we are more vicious fighting and defending than the actual parties are.

[JohnMill]

Yeah but here's the thing....Paul McCartney doesn't go onstage and say, "hey did you know I knew Michael Jackson?!" or "you guys are aware that I had Natalie Portman in one of my music videos, right?", while Pete Townshend doesn't announce at Who gigs, "you guys know Eddie Vedder? Well I'm friends with him!"

It just makes Mike (and The Beach Boys) look pathetic. He had to introduce "Forever" at the C50 show I saw by mentioning something about how "Uncle Jessie sang this one on Full House." Be proud of your own accomplishments Mike.

Which isn't relevant to what I said at all.

I think the Stamos issue is just another one of those things that somehow gets lost in translation around these parts and then we end up doing a twenty page thread on the subject.  Bottom line unless the person in question is absolutely blind there should be some recognition on their part that John Stamos is widely known by a pocket of the general public due to his association with "Full House".  In fact his star is likely to rise as the years roll ahead due to the fact that the pocket of the general public I referred to become nostalgic for the television they grew up with in the eighties, much like the baby boomer generation rocket fueled "Nick At Nite" for several decades.  So Stamos forgotten?  Not in the least.  But as I mentioned a few days ago, he's famous for one thing which is a sitcom which outside of it's considerable audience isn't remembered all too fondly.  

Also lost in translation somewhat is that when you address the forum, you are mainly addressing music fans not the general public.  We tend to view things in a vacuum of how music fans react to the situation at hand and many of us therefore don't have much respect for the minions that patron the M&B show each summer.  Acknowledge them?  Yes.  Respect them?  In many cases no.  So while many of us acknowledge the fact that Stamos has an audience, we do not necessarily put much stock in that audience's opinion or review of his talents which is why he is almost universally derided around these parts.  

Again so many of the disagreements that come to a head on these forums is when people incorrectly assume that they are addressing the public in general within the confines of the various topics on the Beach Boys forum.  In most cases you are only addressing music fans and to be more specific diehard Beach Boys music fans who have a very specific reality which they choose to embrace in terms of how they view their favorite band or how they think they should be viewed.  Ignorance is bliss?  Living Is Easy With Eyes Closed?  Perhaps.  But it's also the atmosphere that from my experience tends to dominate much of the conversation around these parts thankfully most of the time without incident.

[Nicko1234]

I think the Stamos issue is just another one of those things that somehow gets lost in translation around these parts and then we end up doing a twenty page thread on the subject.  Bottom line unless the person in question is absolutely blind there should be some recognition on their part that John Stamos is widely known by a pocket of the general public due to his association with "Full House".  In fact his star is likely to rise as the years roll ahead due to the fact that the pocket of the general public I referred become nostalgic for the television they grew up with in the eighties, much like the baby boomer generation rocket fueled "Nick At Nite" for several decades.  So Stamose forgotten?  Not in the least.  But as I mentioned a few days ago, he's famous for one thing which is a sitcom which outside of it's considerable audience isn't remembered all too fondly.  

Also lost in translation somewhat is that when you address the forum, you are mainly addressing music fans not the general public.  We tend to view things in a vacuum of how music fans react to the situation at hand and many of us therefore don't have much respect for the minions that patron the M&B show each summer.  Acknowledge them?  Yes.  Respect them?  In many cases no.  So while many of us acknowledge the fact that Stamos has an audience, we do not necessarily put much stock in that audience's opinion or review of his talents which is why he is almost universally derided around these parts.  

Again so many of the disagreements that come to a head on these forums is when people incorrectly assume that they are addressing the public in general within the confines of the various topics on the Beach Boys forum.  In most cases you are only addressing music fans and to be more specific diehard Beach Boys music fans who have a very specific reality which they choose to embrace in terms of how they view their favorite band or how they think they should be viewed.  Ignorance is bliss?  Living Is Easy With Eyes Closed?  Perhaps.  But it's also the atmosphere that from my experience tends to dominate much of the conversation around these parts thankfully most of the time without incident.

I don't disagree with that at all and very eloquently written.

I do feel some on the board could move beyond the 'I want this to happen therefore it should happen' mentality though.

[Mikie]

Bruce was prancing around so much that at one point my wife asked me if he was gay. I said, no, he's Republican.

Ah another post of the year candidate here my friend.

Never miss an opportunity to ridicule your opposition, its the Alinsky way eh?

It wasn't a post of the year candidate because it ridiculed Republicans.  It was a post of the year candidate because it was damn funny and made even funnier because it was slipped into the middle of an otherwise straightforward concert review. 

No, the main reason it's a post of the year candidate is because it ridiculed Republicans!

[gfac22]

*sigh* M&B are going to be near my area in couple weeks.

If you can score some tickets on the cheap, you should go.  You'd more than likely have a good time.

[Jim V.]

Yeah but here's the thing....Paul McCartney doesn't go onstage and say, "hey did you know I knew Michael Jackson?!" or "you guys are aware that I had Natalie Portman in one of my music videos, right?", while Pete Townshend doesn't announce at Who gigs, "you guys know Eddie Vedder? Well I'm friends with him!"

It just makes Mike (and The Beach Boys) look pathetic. He had to introduce "Forever" at the C50 show I saw by mentioning something about how "Uncle Jessie sang this one on Full House." Be proud of your own accomplishments Mike.

Which isn't relevant to what I said at all.

And I care why? Nearly every topic on this thread veers off from where it should be. I took your Stamos defense and pointed out how apparently Mike is so insecure in his band's work that he has to big up John Stamos on issues that have f***-all to do with anything. Honestly, the "Forever" connection, well I can understand that. Be linking "Be True To Your School" to Stamos birthday stinks of insecurity on Mike's part.

[SMiLE Brian]

*sigh* M&B are going to be near my area in couple weeks.

If you can score some tickets on the cheap, you should go.  You'd more than likely have a good time.

I did in 2011 at the dawn of my BBs fandom for really cheap, It was a good show for the most part.

I just miss C50.

[gfac22]

*sigh* M&B are going to be near my area in couple weeks.

If you can score some tickets on the cheap, you should go.  You'd more than likely have a good time.

I did in 2011 at the dawn of my BBs fandom for really cheap, It was a good show for the most part.

I just miss C50.

Honestly, I do too, but the show I saw last week was still a great time.  Worth it just to hear Wild Honey, IMO.  But they did a lot of songs I'd personally never seen them do before, so I thoroughly enjoyed it.

[J.G. Dev]

Bruce was prancing around so much that at one point my wife asked me if he was gay. I said, no, he's Republican.

Ah another post of the year candidate here my friend.

Never miss an opportunity to ridicule your opposition, its the Alinsky way eh?

Wasn't ridiculing Bruce or Rebublicans (of which I am one). Just goofin' around a little. No harm meant.

[RubberSoul13]

Mike and Bruce surpised me on a few songs...which I really was not expecting ANY surprises this year...Summer Means Fun, Good To My Baby, Wild Honey, Goin To The Beach...this is probably the best setlist (in the states) that The Beach Boys have toured since the '93 tour.

...excluding C50 of course 

[Nicko1234]

And I care why? Nearly every topic on this thread veers off from where it should be. I took your Stamos defense and pointed out how apparently Mike is so insecure in his band's work that he has to big up John Stamos on issues that have f***-all to do with anything. Honestly, the "Forever" connection, well I can understand that. Be linking "Be True To Your School" to Stamos birthday stinks of insecurity on Mike's part.

What Stamos defense? I didn't post the review of the show you know.

I honestly think that you are reading waaaaay too much into Mike giving a mention to his friend Stamos. I've seen Mike called a lot of things in my time but insecure? I don't think anyone has a higher opinion of themselves than Mike Love. 

[Jim V.]

And I care why? Nearly every topic on this thread veers off from where it should be. I took your Stamos defense and pointed out how apparently Mike is so insecure in his band's work that he has to big up John Stamos on issues that have f***-all to do with anything. Honestly, the "Forever" connection, well I can understand that. Be linking "Be True To Your School" to Stamos birthday stinks of insecurity on Mike's part.

What Stamos defense? I didn't post the review of the show you know.

I honestly think that you are reading waaaaay too much into Mike giving a mention to his friend Stamos. I've seen Mike called a lot of things in my time but insecure? I don't think anyone has a higher opinion of themselves than Mike Love. 

Obviously he's insecure. Otherwise why would he always point out the 1966 poll with The Beatles? Or the fact that "hey, I wrote a bunch of lyrics with Brian" or this or that. He needs to trumpet it, because he apparently must not feel appreciated enough. I personally think that this is a shame, because the guy has done a lot of awesome lyric-writing and singing.

[Nicko1234]

Obviously he's insecure. Otherwise why would he always point out the 1966 poll with The Beatles? Or the fact that "hey, I wrote a bunch of lyrics with Brian" or this or that. He needs to trumpet it, because he apparently must not feel appreciated enough. I personally think that this is a shame, because the guy has done a lot of awesome lyric-writing and singing.

I think the 1966 poll references are an attempt to sell the group (and because Mike has an ego obviously).

His decision to reference Stamos is because they are friends and probably to mock Stamos for turning 50 I would guess. I remember a show in the U.K. a few years that he joked about Mick Jagger's birthday at the time. No big deal I would have thought.

[Mark Dillon]

Just got back from seeing M & B at the Cape Cod Melody Tent. It was a standard M & B show, meaning it was very good. The crowd -- who seemed to be loooooooooongtime BB fans-- were super-enthusiastic. I don't know whether this is par for the course or if I'm just accustomed to subdued Canadians. Also don't know whether it was that audience response or the act of them returning to their pre-C50 formation, but the band seemed tighter, more energized, and in better voice than when some were part of C 50. Mike was in fine form. He led a great version of "Rock and Roll Music", which had never been my favorite. "Goin' to the Beach" was a pleasant novelty, as Mike gave a shout out to the boxed set. Bruce sang "Do You Wanna Dance," "God Only Knows" and "Summer Means Fun", which was an interesting addition. It would've been nice had he done "Disney Girls," with its Cape Cod reference and all. As always, everybody — except Canadian keys man Tim Bonhomme, who's a swell guy —got their chance to sing. Cowsill is great on "Darlin''", "Help Me, Rhonda," and "California Dreamin'". Scott Totten sang "Ballad of Ol' Betsy" and ripped off some spot-on guitar solos.

It was a special occasion for me, because it was both of my kids' first concerts, and I'm glad that it was the Beach Boys, as it was mine 34 years ago. My six year old daughter seemed transfixed by what was going on onstage, while my eight year old son fell asleep during the second set. But that had more to do with his viewing of Good Burger late late the night before. We got to chat briefly with the band after the show. Spirits seemed high.  I must say that it was sad to not see Brian, Alan and David there this time round. But it was a fine show, and now I look forward to seeing those guys with Jeff Beck in Toronto in October.

[Lonely Summer]

As heated as things sometimes get around here, it's positively tame compared to the Mike bashing I saw over on fb after his latest interview comments.

[RubberSoul13]

As heated as things sometimes get around here, it's positively tame compared to the Mike bashing I saw over on fb after his latest interview comments.

It's terrible over there...and there is absolutely no room at all to say a kind word about him on there...you get chewn to bits!

[Lonely Summer]

As heated as things sometimes get around here, it's positively tame compared to the Mike bashing I saw over on fb after his latest interview comments.

It's terrible over there...and there is absolutely no room at all to say a kind word about him on there...you get chewn to bits!

  Yeah, and I'm not one that thinks Mike is an evil guy. I don't really like the idea of just Mike and Bruce touring as the Beach Boys, but in one sense it's not false advertising - it is an evening of Beach Boys music. I probably won't go see their show next weekend when it's in my area, but  I wish not harm upon M&B. Many people WILL go to the show and have a great time, nothing wrong with that.

[Niko]

As heated as things sometimes get around here, it's positively tame compared to the Mike bashing I saw over on fb after his latest interview comments.

Atleast we're informed here

[Nicko1234]

Forget about that Wild Honey live thing...

This defecates all over it!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYu7N2RuPTs

[SMiLE Brian]

*sigh*Where is the suicide emoticon when you need it.......

[Sheriff John Stone]

Forget about that Wild Honey live thing...

This defecates all over it!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYu7N2RuPTs

Two great drummers share a birthday today - 8/19/2013 - Ginger Baker and....................................John Stamos!