50th Anniversary live double CD up for pre-order on Amazon

[hypehat]

Dude, the autotune on this sucks. Can already tell I don't need this. This is not the show I saw at Wembley.


Which is a shame, as that show was one of the greatest of my life. Why is Joe Thomas such a twat? 'Wow, never thought when I was a young lad hearing Fun Fun Fun on the radio that I'd grow up to eventually produce the greatest vocal group of all time! I'm so lucky to be the man to ruin that blend, sterilising it into bland, washed out mediocrity.'

[Cabinessenceking]

Just listened to it.

Boring, bland, autotuned beyond common sense at some points. There is nothing to suggest the same band once did 'In Concert'.

The audience random fly-ins are beyond rediculous and the lack of audience for extended periods make me question the validity of many songs. Are we SURE all these songs are true live recordings? All the audience is 'canned'. It's as if a dude (Joe Thomas?) is pressing some button when a song start or when it ends. It's so tweaked that it reminds me of Beach Boys Concert from 64, except that this is stale and lifeless.

But the performances were in reality very unpersonalised. Very mechanic imo, from what I recall from my C50 show and from the vids on youtube. I guess that Mike-Al-Carl dynamism is long gone. Ofc they're all much older now...and some don't like each other that much anymore.

H&V must seriously be one of the worst 'live' tracks ever released. Who with half a brain would deem it a good idea to insert random applause in the 'children were raised'? I mean, has that part ever recieved a sudden burst of applause? I don't think so, and this is because it is not a NATURAL spot to go apeshit.

This live album is an utter disgrace to the Beach Boys legacy.
I kid you not, this is up there with SIP and Nascar.



I'm not going to lie. I was never going to get this. Prejudice confirmed.

[Lowbacca]

But the performances were in reality very unpersonalised. Very mechanic imo, from what I recall from my C50 show and from the vids on youtube. I guess that Mike-Al-Carl dynamism is long gone. Ofc they're all much older now...and some don't like each other that much anymore.

There was a healthy amount of on-stage banter at the Berlin show in early August, even between Mike and Al.
Obviously it's cut together from a number of shows so there's more 'personalised chatter' than at your average C50 gig.

[hypehat]

My go-to souvenir will be the BBC show - they do sound like they're having fun up there.


I reckon a large part of that 'impersonal nature' is knowing that you have 39 more songs to run through in an hour and a half. Like, Dennis can't tell Nixon jokes all night because the venue will turn up the house lights at 11:45 and cut the sound at 11:47, y'know?

[Shady]

Honestly, Joe Thomas is the devil

[Lowbacca]

Honestly, Joe Thomas is the devil

Mephisto's deeds and motivation are exceedingly more comprehensible to me.

[hypehat]

Honestly, Joe Thomas is the devil

Mephisto's deeds and motivation are exceedingly more comprehensible to me.

You beat me to it. Like, I HEARD THESE GUYS NAIL SOME SWEET HARMONIES LIVE. My friend who plays music (and indeed sings harmony) on a v professional level agreed. NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR JOE THOMAS, IS IT.


Is it just me, or is H&V using Brian's lead from BWPS? Can't be.....? He pops up singing unique parts later....

[hypehat]

Maybe Joe Thomas just really hates the weird sh*t BW pulls on him all the time and autotunes him as passive aggressive revenge - 'yeah, it wasn't quite right, Brian, but I can fix it.... *cackle*'

[Wylson]

What the f*** is going on with Brian's voice on Add Some Music? Sounds like someones hammering on his back whilst he's singing

[Rocker]

Honestly, Joe Thomas is the devil

Mephisto's deeds and motivation are exceedingly more comprehensible to me.

You beat me to it. Like, I HEARD THESE GUYS NAIL SOME SWEET HARMONIES LIVE. My friend who plays music (and indeed sings harmony) on a v professional level agreed. NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR JOE THOMAS, IS IT.


Is it just me, or is H&V using Brian's lead from BWPS? Can't be.....? He pops up singing unique parts later....

From the little snippets I've heard, I'd say Brian's lead (and the whole version probably) is from Chiba, Japan which floats around as a great sounding bootleg. Even that strange effect on Brian's voice is there but not as strong as in the album mix.

->

I'm just listening to the Japan-show, Chiba. It seems to me that at least H&V and Isn't It Time come from these show. They probably did a mix of playback and live for IIT as you can hear Al in the same line going from doubletracked to singletracked and the middle part has many Mike's in it.

[Lowbacca]

What the f*** is going on with Brian's voice on Add Some Music? Sounds like someones hammering on his back whilst he's singing

Well, to be fair, Mike did do that to Brian a couple of times during the reunion. It can be seen in one of those promo clips.

[hypehat]

Honestly, Joe Thomas is the devil

Mephisto's deeds and motivation are exceedingly more comprehensible to me.

You beat me to it. Like, I HEARD THESE GUYS NAIL SOME SWEET HARMONIES LIVE. My friend who plays music (and indeed sings harmony) on a v professional level agreed. NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR JOE THOMAS, IS IT.


Is it just me, or is H&V using Brian's lead from BWPS? Can't be.....? He pops up singing unique parts later....

From the little snippets I've heard, I'd say Brian's lead (and the whole version probably) is from Chiba, Japan which floats around as a great sounding bootleg. Even that strange effect on Brian's voice is there but not as strong as in the album mix.

->

I'm just listening to the Japan-show, Chiba. It seems to me that at least H&V and Isn't It Time come from these show. They probably did a mix of playback and live for IIT as you can hear Al in the same line going from doubletracked to singletracked and the middle part has many Mike's in it.

I'll have to seek it out. It just sounds exactly like it, and I say this as a man who listened to nothing but BWPS for a week in my younger days.


Well, they sampled two other Wilsons so there's precedent...

[Cabinessenceking]

What the f*** is going on with Brian's voice on Add Some Music? Sounds like someones hammering on his back whilst he's singing

Probably J.Thomas' manhood poking him to gently massage it. wait for director's cut.

[Wirestone]

But the performances were in reality very unpersonalised. Very mechanic imo, from what I recall from my C50 show and from the vids on youtube. I guess that Mike-Al-Carl dynamism is long gone. Ofc they're all much older now...and some don't like each other that much anymore.

There was a healthy amount of on-stage banter at the Berlin show in early August, even between Mike and Al.
Obviously it's cut together from a number of shows so there's more 'personalised chatter' than at your average C50 gig.

I saw a fair amount of banter at my two shows as well.

[Wah Wah Wah Ooooo]

And so begins the condescending "If you like it, you're wrong/an idiot/on drugs/

That's an insult to people on drugs.

In seriosuness, I agree with you. If you like it, you like it. It's usually those of us who work in music/ recording that find it intolerable. I'm envious of those with innocent ears.

I'm actually a semi-professional musician with a great ear...I clearly hear the problem and yes it does bother me...I'm just saying it's not as bad as the overreaction on this board made it out to be. It's not unlistenable. They could do much better and much worse.

[Dave Modny]

I'm just listening to the Japan-show, Chiba. It seems to me that at least H&V and Isn't It Time come from these shows.

Here's an earlier post of mine, Rocker, with the Chiba, H&V MP3 sample -- which I'm not sure if folks saw. If anyone wants to listen and compare to the version on the new CD, in which I also linked to Mr. Moustachioto's sample...they're still there (the MP3 can be streamed). I also included the totally unrelated Mermaid clip as an example of a truly live, warts-and-all version.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,15471.msg369954.html#msg369954

[KittyKat]

People who can tolerate the sound of this album, particularly the vocal sounds, may like or at least be able to tolerate music that features autotuning used in a very gimmicky, obvious way. I personally hate, hate, hate it. It's one of the worst things about music for the past several years, that so many hit records feature it.  It's in every example on this record, even the backing vocals. Robo-Bruce on California Girls. I'm glad someone likes it and someone may buy it, but it won't be me.  The Beach Boys are not Katy Perry or Ke$ha and the way autotune is used doesn't suit them.

[Wirestone]

My feeling is that about 80 percent of the record is acceptable to good. But the 20 percent or so that is bad is so very bad, so very very very bad, that it can warp the perception of the overall product.

Basically anything with Al on the lead is great, and much of Mike's material comes out well. WDFFIL is good too. Brian's leads, much of Jeff's stuff and a couple of Mike leads blow.

[Wah Wah Wah Ooooo]

People who can tolerate the sound of this album, particularly the vocal sounds, may like or at least be able to tolerate music that features autotuning used in a very gimmicky, obvious way. I personally hate, hate, hate it. It's one of the worst things about music for the past several years, that so many hit records feature it.  It's in every example on this record, even the backing vocals. Robo-Bruce on California Girls. I'm glad someone likes it and someone may buy it, but it won't be me.  The Beach Boys are not Katy Perry or Ke$ha and the way autotune is used doesn't suit them.

I agree that The Beach Boys should be above the gimmicks of modern pop music and it's not a great sounding album...I just know and despise the amount of condescension from the big-time posters on this board that is coming the way of those who might enjoy this album anyway.  Like I can't possibly know anything about music (not even close to true) and also enjoy this album (true).  

[Rob Dean]

My feeling is that about 80 percent of the record is acceptable to good. But the 20 percent or so that is bad is so very bad, so very very very bad, that it can warp the perception of the overall product.

Basically anything with Al on the lead is great, and much of Mike's material comes out well. WDFFIL is good too. Brian's leads, much of Jeff's stuff and a couple of Mike leads blow.

WDFFIL Intro is canned (always has been) , exactly the same vocal intro (??)as the Mike & Bruce show - Sorry got to be said 

[runnersdialzero]

did he just say "david lee mark"

[runnersdialzero]

moar autotune means more sales means more hairstylin products O GOD I'VE CRACKED THE FORMULA OF LIFE

[runnersdialzero]

Yeah guys, you can totally replace the first line of "Isn't It Time" and then use the album version vocal for the rest of it. Totally seamless.

Yeah guys, you can totally use Al's "Every time I think of you" from the album version and have it noticeably fade into him saying "like to do" with overlap so that he's doubled halfway through for a few seconds. This is how the human voice sounds.

You can have Mike doubled on his verse, double-tracking can be done live.

Totally seamless.

Guys. Totally seamless. u kno.

[SMiLE Brian]

Brian's voice doesn't need to be autotunned to death like this album did. The main appeal of Brian's voice these days is the fact that Brian gives his all singing after decades of abuse.

[Cabinessenceking]

oh God... He's touching me again isn't he?